Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build

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Hey Warren,
   He said it costs him 1.10 installed and up and running as he had all costs plus from the manufacturing as his build warranted itself due to its size.
 I think he said Aurora solar! Got his business card anyway.
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On the 20k  , Most people like to divide by 5 for sustainability values. Meaning 20k / 5= 4k  24 hr useful value.
That's lots!  Due to it being 24 hr full time you can run the entire farm with all its basic needs ,
 once you do its also our greedy nature to want more ! lol
You should keep in mind on some schedules you need to allow for up to 100% intake on the 20k.
Most likely will not happen but you still need to.
Some time back , (many posts) Norman , myself and others were banging on battery elements and values.
Norm posted a young man playing with plasma and you,  yourself had mentioned ....why? whats the point?
You are correct if there is no plan to move forward. So if we move forward which way do you like to go?
No matter how you go there will be maintenance! Sorry but yea!
You seem to like plug and play and why not ! I do as well. Seems to be what we have matured our selves to
now a day. I remember the days I  used to play with the 555 timer, now ...wow relearn lol
Arduino is really just that from what I can see, an advanced 555 timer!
I can heat or charge your water or charge a substrate or which ever you like. Create a flow battery etc.
Remember back in reference for a millionth time JB and Tom Beardon mentioned " switching"
Its the switching which is the problem, once you do ...poof all values tank!
 So for fun lists your components you wish to run!! Also be honest with annual values!

Bart:)
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Hi Bart

I have 20,000 watts of solar panels sitting Inside a shed right now.
They are only three years old, made in Canada, and have come from a school on Toronto that is being torn down under the new Provincial government.
As you know, the sugar daddy deal for selling power back to the Ontario grid is gone.
My local power company will only buy my power for $ .50 to the dollar what they charge me.
I got these panels for the scrap value, of hiring the guys to remove them from the roof before the bulldozers came.
So it is not bad, since they didn't cost much, still, I generally hate batteries, and am open to thoughts of doing more than heating electric hot water tanks to run through the heat pumps, and floors.
Cheers Warren

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On Sun., 15 Sep. 2019 at 10:51 a.m., bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]
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Warren
Agreed!
There has been many in the last few years claiming value from the access energy past the physical absolute zero mark. ( or before , or after)
I posted a few. Once I can find a little time to lab top it I will repost.
The value in the end will be harvesting the collected values. As well the bridge diodes or even any diode may not be applicable.
Pending on the build perhaps.
One fellow I chatted with says he worked on the timing for a period of ten years rallying data then 3d running it on a program before the physical build.
Doug's  build 's at this point will be a gathering of values more than applying Newtons gain in work force. Which in any way is benifical. I remember thinking what if the perendev had a cancellation scheduled. It does not take much effort to cancel even a small portion electronically on a magnetic field.

I suspect there is some thing amiss!

On another note.
Chatted yesterday with a fella whom has installed 2 gigawatt solar op on Long Island.
Meant to ask what he was doing for sustainable capacitance storage.
He did mention he was applying off peak time and on peak time schedules.
He said 1.10 per watt ....up and running!


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Date: 2019-09-15 9:16 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Bart

Its Arcs and sparks, garbage turned to useful energy.
The messy AC signals get rectified, no matter what frequency, or amplitude, or how many are jumbled together, and organized into neat, and tidy, DC signals, that can be harnessed.
You have to love rectifiers, even though they sort of sound like wrecktifiers.
Cheers Warren

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On Sun., 15 Sep. 2019 at 9:06 a.m., bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]
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AC   DC   AC



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Date: 2019-09-15 8:57 AM (GMT-05:00)
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The discussion of magnetic diode goes back to Tesla Patent on rectification of AC into DC to power DC arc lighting in NYC. It is called preferred path rectification and is pure simple diode action as we know it.  Read the Patent.


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Hi Hector

OK besides impedance change, permanent magnet on core of coil can also affect the CEMF recovered power,

(this in pulsed DC motor coils for example)

When working with rotors of permanent magnets sweeping past generator coils with cores, (in my case 16 allN magnets in flat disc rotor whipping past 9 coi/core positions 40 degrees apart....right now only 5 of these positions occupied with generator coils in mullermotorgenerator I am testing)

So the comment from Warren about "magnetic diode" is perhaps thinking not in electrical flow terms, but rather a "rotational magnet diode effect" in that the rotor speed and power increases in one way, compared to decreasing in the other direction....and with 16 all N facing diodes in rotor going for example 1300rpm now the dynamics of polarity of rotor magnets against various stator cores polarized with magnet behind these cores a certain polarity, and strength of magnetsm  can create a sort of rotational diode affect....(not electrical diode) as I do get a good speed up of around 300 rpm with magnets positioned behind generator (not the pulsed motor coils) so there is something going on and this effect is from magnetizied-cores vs sweeping rotor magnets so is almost a permanent magnet motor effect going on like Howard Johnson motor perhaps,,,,,after this, now will look at coils wound around those stator cores, being loaded with a certain resistive load  , and now another variable to see what magnetic polarity and strength of magnets behind generator coils (now loaded, making power) will cause some good speed up of rotor, and with rotating generators, more speed equals more power so faster the better.

Kone