Re: Science Explained: The Physics of Cold Fusion

"How do you know that the gas hasn't escaped to the opposite side of the piston?"
 

 How can you even ask such a question and then proceed to answer it without ever doing the experiment..???
 

 Go to your car, pull the spark plug lead and then touch the strut anywhere you like... 

 Debunking without ever experimenting will NEVER UPWISE any student or inquisitive mind.
 

 Hypotheticals like the following.....
 "How do you know that the gas hasn't escaped to the opposite side of the piston? Which way does the current run through the strut? If passing between the piston and the pressure tube it may burn through its sealing to let the gas through. Gas pistons have high pressure in them. Thus the slightest hole will let through the gas molecules. The plasma of an electric arc is hot enough to evaporate any metal."
 

 only leads to further stupidity.
 

 Doing the experiment leads to wisdom and understandings.

https://futurism.com/science-explained-the-physics-of-cold-fusion/
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Cold Fusion. 

 The Opposite and Equal of Hot Fusion actions and reactions,

 Particle Physicists will have difficulty with this one as its all about Hydrogen and electrons.
 

 "Their" definition of Cold Fusion...
 as it is a process that occurs near room temperatures. LENR or Low Energy Nuclear Reaction A “muon-catalyzed fusion” is one known instance where a catalyst is, in fact, able to cause nuclear fusion. So Just what is a 'spark' of Electricity that changes the DENSITY of the Nitrogen Gas in a "Strut" without actually interacting directly with the N but upon the container of N?
 

 Density is what matter is all about as the Periodic Table of the Elements is a scale of Densities.
 

 How does Nitrogen go from being a denser gas (its compressed) to a gas that NO ONE has ever analyzed that is obviously LESS Dense with just an instantaneous spark ? 

 Is this not a Low Energy Nuclear Reaction? Where the Density of the 'element' changes at room temp, losing its 'properties'. 

 

 Its all about Magnetics and Physicists relegate Magnetics to obscurity in the Atomic Structure. What chance have they got then in understanding Cold Fusion. 


 

 

 http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15926 http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15926

Hi MerLynn,

"So Just what is a 'spark' of Electricity that changes the DENSITY of the Nitrogen Gas in a "Strut" without actually interacting directly with the N but upon the container of N?"

How do you know that the gas hasn't escaped to the opposite side of the piston? Which way does the current run through the strut? If passing between the piston and the pressure tube it may burn through its sealing to let the gas through. Gas pistons have high pressure in them. Thus the slightest hole will let through the gas molecules. The plasma of an electric arc is hot enough to evaporate any metal.



Source of image: https://www.industrialgassprings.com/how-gas-springs-work/ https://www.industrialgassprings.com/how-gas-springs-work/

Regards
Ole 

---In [email protected], <eagleseeone@...> wrote :

 Cold Fusion. 

 The Opposite and Equal of Hot Fusion actions and reactions,

 Particle Physicists will have difficulty with this one as its all about Hydrogen and electrons.
 

 "Their" definition of Cold Fusion...
 as it is a process that occurs near room temperatures. LENR or Low Energy Nuclear Reaction A “muon-catalyzed fusion” is one known instance where a catalyst is, in fact, able to cause nuclear fusion. So Just what is a 'spark' of Electricity that changes the DENSITY of the Nitrogen Gas in a "Strut" without actually interacting directly with the N but upon the container of N?
 

 Density is what matter is all about as the Periodic Table of the Elements is a scale of Densities.
 

 How does Nitrogen go from being a denser gas (its compressed) to a gas that NO ONE has ever analyzed that is obviously LESS Dense with just an instantaneous spark ? 

 Is this not a Low Energy Nuclear Reaction? Where the Density of the 'element' changes at room temp, losing its 'properties'. 

 

 Its all about Magnetics and Physicists relegate Magnetics to obscurity in the Atomic Structure. What chance have they got then in understanding Cold Fusion. 


 

 

 http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15926 http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15926

Are the struts ruined or become r weak after zapping with spark?  Good question eh
Nitrogen is paramagnetic and repels a magnet says internet searcb
I know cold air wind you feel being around Muller generator rotor of many big neodymium magnets whirling around is because of the nitrogen in air being pushed around.
So fuck with nitrogen inside steel chamber using 40kv spark with rubber deals holding it in side chamber something will be mess up either the nitrogen or the seals of strut.
Seems like an  experiment having nothing to do with gravity at all.
Kone

The Struts can now be pushed and pulled by hand with little to no resistance.  You may call it 40kv, but such terminology is based upon effects rather than what it actually is. You can grab the spark from the lead and yes it hurts but it doesnt melt the skin or pierce the insulator. One can even spark the shaft sticking out of the strut where no gas or rubber is in the 'flow of electricity'. 

 Again until one destroys several struts, this hypothetical debate does NOT give an understanding to why Density is used to 'prove' gravity and the scale of this density is the Periodic table of the elements.
 

 The Density of Nitrogen is changed with a 12V car systems spark in just a Milli second. 

 Gravity is ALL about Density. 

 Density of the Atomic Structure can be changed by a 'spark'. 

 The placement of the spark is irrelevant after one understands this by destroying many struts. (3 in my case).
 

 Is it that hard to learn new tricks Kone?

Ok so seals of struts leak now 
Maybe reptilian car mechanic can piss on struts and make them good again

Hi MerLynn,

"How can you even ask such a question and then proceed to answer it without ever doing the experiment..???"
If doing proper science such questions must be asked. The answer to the question could enlighten to check if your conclusion is right. Your way of doing science looks more like the way the flat earth society is doing science.

By cutting open the can and inspecting its inside it would be possible to check for burn marks and thus possibilities of damaging the seal. Did you do that before making your conclusion?

On Netflix there is a documentary on Flat Earthers that actually do a scientific experiment to prove once and for all that the Earth is flat. The documentary stop quite abruptly as the experiment doesn't show their theory to hold true! https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/27/flat-earthers-accidentally-prove-earth-round-netflix-documentary-8772206/ https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/27/flat-earthers-accidentally-prove-earth-round-netflix-documentary-8772206/. A longer review: https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a26819931/flat-earth-science-behind-the-curve-netflix-mark-sargent-patricia-steere/ https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a26819931/flat-earth-science-behind-the-curve-netflix-mark-sargent-patricia-steere/

Do proper science for the truth to come forth.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <eagleseeone@...> wrote :

 "How do you know that the gas hasn't escaped to the opposite side of the piston?"
 

 How can you even ask such a question and then proceed to answer it without ever doing the experiment..???
 

 Go to your car, pull the spark plug lead and then touch the strut anywhere you like... 

 Debunking without ever experimenting will NEVER UPWISE any student or inquisitive mind.
 

 Hypotheticals like the following.....
 "How do you know that the gas hasn't escaped to the opposite side of the piston? Which way does the current run through the strut? If passing between the piston and the pressure tube it may burn through its sealing to let the gas through. Gas pistons have high pressure in them. Thus the slightest hole will let through the gas molecules. The plasma of an electric arc is hot enough to evaporate any metal."
 

 only leads to further stupidity.
 

 Doing the experiment leads to wisdom and understandings.

Look Ole...  it works like this.. One publishes a theory based upon a practical experiment that even you can do.
 Then you do the experiment to either prove or disprove the theory.
 

 I published a theory of Density of Gas with the experiment to prove it. Once published the onus is on you to do the proving. If its not independently repeatable, then call me about your findings. 

 

 So NO, you cannot judge the Theory by your Flat Earth Mentality without doing the experiment. Which makes your opinion about as valuable as the Flat Earthers. 

 

 Oh and dont just touch the spark to the same spot 3 times, vary the current flow so that the gas isnt in the flow of current so no burning holes or leaky rubber seals by burning eventuates.Touch the extended shaft right near where it is grounded to the frame of the car. Do I really have to tell you everything? Do you just exist to stop learning by your pathetic ridicule of flat earth comparison thinking?

 

 All your 'concerns' can be answered if you buy enough struts. 

 

 All you want to do Ole is prove me wrong and you superior. Or you want Pearls on a silver platter. You have no intention to ever do a single experiment I refer to, preferring to be an armchair internet sleuth pseudo Physicist instead.. It sucks to be you using flat earth theories to prove your point sheesh.
 

 Change your mindset Ole...  Try to see that what I say is 100% correct and ask for clarification. Not your rubbishing attitude. Its not a lot of fun dealing with such a mindset as yours. Kone and his no traction in levitation is another. literally 100's saw it and so to did Australian Security and Intelligence Organisation in Canberra see it too. The only reason Joe is alive is they cant reverse engineer it. I have much better conspiracies than the flat earthers.

Is it that hard to not act like an arrogant asshole creepy eagle?  Right
when you may be getting an audience you shoot your own fkn foot, very
sad indeed!

On 6/4/2019 6:22 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
> The Struts can now be pushed and pulled by hand with little to no
> resistance.  You may call it 40kv, but such terminology is based upon
> effects rather than what it actually is. You can grab the spark from
> the lead and yes it hurts but it doesnt melt the skin or pierce the
> insulator. One can even spark the shaft sticking out of the strut
> where no gas or rubber is in the 'flow of electricity'.
> Again until one destroys several struts, this hypothetical debate does
> NOT give an understanding to why Density is used to 'prove' gravity
> and the scale of this density is the Periodic table of the elements.
>
> The Density of Nitrogen is changed with a 12V car systems spark in
> just a Milli second.
> Gravity is ALL about Density.
> Density of the Atomic Structure can be changed by a 'spark'.
> The placement of the spark is irrelevant after one understands this by
> destroying many struts. (3 in my case).
>
> Is it that hard to learn new tricks Kone?
>
>
>

No, the seal doesnt leak. As a practical demo destroying several struts would show. You know, doing the Clinical repeatable trials? The gas has been transmuted to a new Density.  A different weight too, which means some variant or Iso-Dope of an element in their lingo.
 

 The new information presented here is how easily electricity transmutes matter. Gases and Liquids are more easily transmuted than solids. Think Emoto and water crystals. A 12V Baghdad Car(pet) Battery turns water into oil. If all one ever hears about of Transmutations, is Lead into Gold, is it any wonder its considered fantasy? Or a hidden Tech in how weapons grade plutonium is given a new atomic WEIGHT (density) to increase energy release by Enrichment instead of Hypercharging. Read that again….
  
 Running liquids through the centre of a ring magnet transmutes or re-structures the Magnetic Field Pattern of the dissolved solids within the water. Car exhaust air running through a modified Hot Dog Muffler with a couple ring magnets placed geometrically inside, easily makes the air ‘fresh’ again. Understanding this Atomic Structure can lead to harvesting energy from the water, which is why we are here, yes? Its why Norm started the Cold Fusion discussion. He knows it bugs me to read such stupid links to poor understandings.
  
 If water and thus all 'elements' made, or in the water, are so easily changed of their Density with just a spark, it must follow that water is electric in its atomic structure. When one places a drop of food dye in a glass of water, its not long before the dye is evenly distributed within the water structure of the glass. The Water is in constant 'motion' within itself. If the water is 'electro-magnetic', then consider the glass of water like billions of tiny magnets all in constant motion. One would think all there would be is to drop a "COLLECTOR" in the water to harvest the 'electricity'. At room temp and normal glass filling procedures in a stable magnetic Field (the earths) The movement of the billions of tiny magnets are in Harmony with their surround Fields. So there is NOT a 'differential' in potential between the glass of water with a collector immersed within the water with 2 wires hanging off it and its Surrounds (yet). One needs to HYPERCHARGE the water or change its Electro-Magnetic Potential by adding magnetic energy as electricity. There are many such devices for adding a new Memory Frequencies or its vibrating or swirling of the billions of tiny magnets in Motion (its frequency as in mass spectrometer numbers). The Sun is one ‘device’. A JoeCell is another. A Baghdad Battery will do just fine as well. River 'currents' charge the water by increasing the swirl rate globally of the river water.

  
 When one raises the vibration rate of the glass of water, the billions of tiny magnets within the water are swirling at a different rate than their surrounds. So a potential difference exists. This potential difference can be collected and transferred and utilized by wires from the Water that are attached to something like one half of an old radio tuner that has 50 or so plates of aluminium that are intermeshed to tune the radio. Its designed to collect vibrations of minuscule differences. Vibrations equal energy. Frequency is energy. The liquid magnet of the glass of water now imparts a, different to its surrounds, vibration to the aluminium collector. A POTENTIAL DIFFFERENCE to collect as the Fields try to Equalize. 
  
 To “make electricity” one has to HYPERCHARGE the generator. When one is spinning a magnet, it is in effect, HYPERCHARGING the copper coil. Each passing of the magnet within the Field of the Coil, increases the ‘charge’ of the coil. 60 pulses of magnet charge per second, is available throughout the entire conductive wiring system. The stronger the magnet and the more winds on the coils, the greater the Potential Difference. Its not rocket science, its using one’s eyes and brains to see what is really happening when spinning a magnet in a generator. Much like sparking a strut to understand Density. The moment one speculates what is happening without doing the experiment, the less one will ever understand about Magnetic Energy. 

 

 This “Particle Science Theory of Everything” only has as its basis, the adding of more marbles to the mix to explain the observable phenomena. Pathetic really. Even Walter Russell has only 2 references to Magnetics in his vast collection of writings. What is presented here is 100 years ahead of time. 

  
 Hypercharging Water is a whole lot easier than heavy metals. And finding an old radio tuner is getting more difficult all the time. So make one… the Formula is a 3 to 1 ratio of size, shape, spacing and dimensions of the aluminium plates. (the number for heaven is 3 remember? So 3 gives the heavenly energy of what Creation is made of…. Plasma Energy.) Even better if one alternates copper and aluminium plates as the collector metals. The Aqua Chi water module will do this if one knows how to super or muli hyper-charge the water with it. The Joecell only requires a once charge of the water. As the Memory change of Frequency is permanent in the glass of water, the battery lasts forever. 
  
 Understanding Transmutation allows for Cold Fusion to be utilized and ‘made’ in many ways. 
  
 But lets get some reptile to piss on the strut as our way of showing we learned something new today. It doesn’t matter how its written, it will be rejected and ridiculed and scorn heaped upon the presenter. Thunderbolts forum proved that to me. So I may as well run with how human nature (read stupidity) operates and have fun doing so.
  
 The advantage of the Joecell is that the Charging Antenna array or “cell” is both the hypercharging device and the Collector in one. So a Stainless Steel Battery filled with Spring water and charged for just a few seconds, will power a house forever with DC. 

 

 All the plans and theory of how to build one is already on the Net. Mostly published by me but Alex Shifflier and peter stevens must be digested to get the full picture. If you get agro about the info because one must think the seals are broken as the only in the box explanation one can come up with, am I wrong to poke fun at such a blase attitude? Particularity when I gave you the methodology to make a 2 magnet motor Kone? Could you possibly think outside the box just a little to explain how you would try to enlighten another how a levitating car wheel still has "traction" to the Earth? Or do I have to just say... Its ALL Field Interaction and its possible to move the hairs on another persons arms sensitizing the nerves by 'projecting' energy from the finger tips upon the Bio Field of the arm at a distance greater than the length of the hairs. TRY IT for Christs sake. Or is that above your pay grade too. Sorry for the tone but you did rubbish all I have said based upon levitation equals no traction equals inside the box thinking.

 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

 Ok so seals of struts leak now 
 Maybe reptilian car mechanic can piss on struts and make them good again

I want you to get mad. You have been lied to your whole life and if you didnt get mad then i would be worried. 
They know what I know.  See how they use words enrichment and isotopes to explain their density change. 
Did not Reich use long aluninium tubes for his Cloudbusters?  Do they not use aluminium tubes for enrichment?
So if i become your object of anger about the deceit you have sweated and laboured over, the sooner you can be cured and help fix this shit. 
Are you made enough to do something yet? anything? 
Whats at stake here is your god given rights to live free with the tech to obtain those god given rights.
Everything else is slavery. 
If you cant handle me you sure aint ready for the water memory skeptics to take you to the court of public opinion. And then we loose if you dont shape up to criticism.
Learn to code. Live the code. It aint peaches and cream to clean up this shit.

Ok so how do you solve your collapsed strut?



Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.


-------- Original message --------
From: "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Date: 2019-06-06 6:23 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Science Explained: The Physics of Cold Fusion



I want you to get mad. You have been lied to your whole life and if you didnt get mad then i would be worried.
They know what I know. See how they use words enrichment and isotopes to explain their density change.
Did not Reich use long aluninium tubes for his Cloudbusters? Do they not use aluminium tubes for enrichment?
So if i become your object of anger about the deceit you have sweated and laboured over, the sooner you can be cured and help fix this shit.
Are you made enough to do something yet? anything?
Whats at stake here is your god given rights to live free with the tech to obtain those god given rights.
Everything else is slavery.
If you cant handle me you sure aint ready for the water memory skeptics to take you to the court of public opinion. And then we loose if you dont shape up to criticism.
Learn to code. Live the code. It aint peaches and cream to clean up this shit.

Hi MerLynn,

"I published a theory of Density of Gas with the experiment to prove it. Once published the onus is on you to do the proving. If its not independently repeatable, then call me about your findings."

I really don't have the time for all kinds of experiments or even the money to buy everything. I have my own experiments taking time and resources. There is nothing wrong in oneself making proofs. Use the scientific method which is far from the way the flat earthers are doing science. Flat earthers do it more like religion (or belief) and won't even watch experiments disproving or showing faults or omissions in their theory or experiments. The scientific method https://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-fair-projects/science-fair/steps-of-the-scientific-method is for finding the truth much like a trial. Look at all causes that can explain the observed phenomena. As you're using extremely high tension (EHT) to supply the current it will jump gaps and it will burn things. Experiments can be made to make sure seals aren't burned by preventing sparks jumping them. I'm not convinced that this doesn't happen with the limited explanation of the experiment. EHT can and will destroy any dielectrics when the tension reaches the breakdown voltage of the dielectric.

"Touch the extended shaft right near where it is grounded to the frame of the car."
That's the problem as we don't really know which way the current passes. Both ends of the strut could be the path of least resistance. My suggestion is to have full control of which end the current enters and leaves the strut. This means connecting the ground to either the same or opposite end of the part where the current enters. Only this way it is possible to make a proper conclusion.

You really don't tell which way the current runs like if it has to pass the gas. If it does so it also has to jump between the cylinder wall and the rod. If doing that the current will take the path of least resistance which is probably along the dielectric of the piston (creep current) or at the end seal. I see burning a seal just as good an explanation as changing the density of the gas.

The gas could also become even higher pressure by heating it with a plasma arc like in the Papp engine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNSAXbZfnbE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNSAXbZfnbE (19:25). This could perhaps let it pass or destroy the sealing.

"All you want to do Ole is prove me wrong and you superior."
Definitely not! Just prove yourself right! I see too many loose ends at the moment. Just close them to let the truth come forth.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <eagleseeone@...> wrote :

 Look Ole...  it works like this.. One publishes a theory based upon a practical experiment that even you can do.
 Then you do the experiment to either prove or disprove the theory.
 

 I published a theory of Density of Gas with the experiment to prove it. Once published the onus is on you to do the proving. If its not independently repeatable, then call me about your findings. 

 

 So NO, you cannot judge the Theory by your Flat Earth Mentality without doing the experiment. Which makes your opinion about as valuable as the Flat Earthers. 

 

 Oh and dont just touch the spark to the same spot 3 times, vary the current flow so that the gas isnt in the flow of current so no burning holes or leaky rubber seals by burning eventuates.Touch the extended shaft right near where it is grounded to the frame of the car. Do I really have to tell you everything? Do you just exist to stop learning by your pathetic ridicule of flat earth comparison thinking?

 

 All your 'concerns' can be answered if you buy enough struts. 

 

 All you want to do Ole is prove me wrong and you superior. Or you want Pearls on a silver platter. You have no intention to ever do a single experiment I refer to, preferring to be an armchair internet sleuth pseudo Physicist instead.. It sucks to be you using flat earth theories to prove your point sheesh.
 

 Change your mindset Ole...  Try to see that what I say is 100% correct and ask for clarification. Not your rubbishing attitude. Its not a lot of fun dealing with such a mindset as yours. Kone and his no traction in levitation is another. literally 100's saw it and so to did Australian Security and Intelligence Organisation in Canberra see it too. The only reason Joe is alive is they cant reverse engineer it. I have much better conspiracies than the flat earthers.

The Strut is now worthless. If the strut was made so the gas could be replaced, that would solve a lot of 'issues' like Ole has. The point of the exercise is to show how easily transmutation and cold fusion is accomplished. 2 subjects that are the most rubbished of all scientific theories. Do bear in mind that such 'experiments' are not easily presented to Academia as there is always some point of contention and in this case its the Seals for the gas. In a proper setup Lab all these concerns can be monitored. 

 

 For 23 years the Aqua Chi has been turning water into oil and apart from me, its not being talked about or studied. If Ron gets lucky and finds a transformer like the cheap chinese one we trialed in 1998, all that could change. Or one of several other experimenters might find how to vary the frequency of the power supply to discover the Frequency. Much like the Movie starring Keanu Reeves in Chain Reaction. 

 

 It then begs the question, what else is false in this world of Milking the Herd. 

 

 When you change the Scientific Foundations of Matter, it changes everything else that follows. In 1996 I decided to change the way Health and Healing is looked at as the way to change the paradigm of the planetary psych for the better. The Aqua Chi water module greatly assists all other alternate healing modalities and is a monumental stand alone healing device as well. 

 

 I predict that sometime in the future, an 'industrial strength' model will be available in all hospitals. It will be the Go To for snake bite victims and other organic toxins.

you just dont get it do you Ole?
 "Just prove yourself right! I see too many loose ends at the moment. Just close them to let the truth come forth."
 

 I cant prove anything. NO ONE can. Only by independent testing will it be proved. If you dont want to do it... why are you so negative?
 

 Twas the same with DNA Teleportation, Pseudo scientists saw too many loose ends and NEVER even tried to duplicate his experiment. He had to go to China where their minds are a little more open.
 

 Do you understand this scientific basis of independent verification yet Ole?
 

 The onus of proof is not on me and it is but one of many experiments that challenge this Density of the Elements theory. My Job is to present a Theory and a way to test the theory and its up to REAL scientists to take up the challenge to their theories which is why nothing changes in Academia. 

 

 I will grant you poetic license to write that my Theory and Practical presentation isnt up to speed, But struts are only a few dollars each and its not hard to prove it without such a detailed step by step pdf approach to prove Field Science for Dummies 101.

Actually Ole, this 'deserves' a second scolding.
 

 "Just prove yourself right! I see too many loose ends at the moment. Just close them to let the truth come forth."
 

 It would be a safe bet to say Joe and I have proved ourselves right over many 1000's of times. We are actually tired of proving ourselves right in personal Lab Demos for literally 100's of people and some are very famous and rich and highly educated.
 

 When do we stop proving ourselves right Ole? You do want to participate in this proof don't you? It would appear for you, Ole, enough is never enough. You just have a bad outlook on life to see how proof comes about. Sad really. 

 

 And if you think about your stupid request Ole, perhaps you could explain how we prove "right"? What part of Proving did I omit? (now there's a leading question for a snappy comeback.)

Hey Mr incredible
Fuck off ebh!
I don't like your manner of "give me money you are all stupid"  approach you have brought here.

Tell Joe to post here HIMSELF
That is IF HE wants to.
we don't need you to throw your shit our way and and he does NOT need you to represent him or collect funds for him

There is a reason he does nor want YOU to be on boards giving out hints and secrets as basically you only create enemies and arguments and he knows you personally and knows you would be really lousy at this job.
 you are perzonally setting back ten years  Joe Cell tech by with  your "come on and argue with.me" style
So give Joe a break and shut the fuck up!
Imagine if you told Joe truth and said you are on lots of boards trying to stir up interest via insults and argument  and asking for 1000 dollar minimum donations I am sure he would blow a fuse

Konehead moderator

well he wouldnt be the only one who blew a fuse

DougThis guy is toxic.Do the kind thing and move him to spam for us all.He has monopolized  the thread for the sole purpose of destroying  productive thought flow anyone else is doing.There are good minds in this group being twisted in knots over useless confrontational shit, that is just confrontational, to be wasting people's time, and email screen space.Cheers Warren
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  On Fri., 7 Jun. 2019 at 1:52 a.m., [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hey Mr incredible
Fuck off ebh!
I don't like your manner of "give me money you are all stupid" approach you have brought here.

Tell Joe to post here HIMSELF
That is IF HE wants to.
we don't need you to throw your shit our way and and he does NOT need you to represent him or collect funds for him

There is a reason he does nor want YOU to be on boards giving out hints and secrets as basically you only create enemies and arguments and he knows you personally and knows you would be really lousy at this job.
 you are perzonally setting back ten years Joe Cell tech by with your "come on and argue with.me" style
So give Joe a break and shut the fuck up!
Imagine if you told Joe truth and said you are on lots of boards trying to stir up interest via insults and argument and asking for 1000 dollar minimum donations I am sure he would blow a fuse

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