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[1/10] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna [1 Attachment]
2019-01-01T14:49:18-05:00
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Bob Paddock
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> The entire copper disk in a conventional Faraday generator > is immersed in a uniform magnetic field, and the magnetic field > surrounding a Halbach array is anything but uniform! Precisely my point. What happens to the spaghetti model of the Aether when it is a non-linear magnetic field around the disk? Any Interesting Anomalies? Uniform yet twisted spaghetti maybe?
[2/10] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna [1 Attachment]
2019-01-01T16:05:53-06:00
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Norman Wootan
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/12/181213131242.htm Bert Pool provided this Spaghetti in a bowl example on a galactic scale. This also explains the bathing and bombardment from all directions of everything in the known universe. Thanks! Bert and Bob for the dialog on this subject. All of the mysterious O/U producing devices, T Henry Moray, Floyd Sweet VYA, MRA. MEG worked by magnetic field conversion of some sort. Norm On 1/1/2019 1:49 PM, Bob Paddock wrote: >> The entire copper disk in a conventional Faraday generator >> is immersed in a uniform magnetic field, and the magnetic field >> surrounding a Halbach array is anything but uniform! > Precisely my point. > > What happens to the spaghetti model of the Aether > when it is a non-linear magnetic field around the disk? > Any Interesting Anomalies? > Uniform yet twisted spaghetti maybe? >
[3/10] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna [1 Attachment]
2019-01-01T19:09:44-05:00
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Bob Paddock
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On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 5:05 PM Norman Wootan <[email protected]> wrote: > https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/12/181213131242.htm "...a process known as 'magnetic reconnection.'" The Thunderbolts Project https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/ and the SAFIRE Project https://www.electricuniverse.info/safire-project/ are the people doing actual lab work. What I wonder is this magnetic reconicetoin the unterminated magnetic flux line flopping around look for a connection, the same thing that William Reich called DOR? Dangerous stuff to be around. > Bert Pool > provided this Spaghetti in a bowl example on a galactic scale. This > also explains the bathing and bombardment from all directions of > everything in the known universe. Thanks! Bert and Bob for the dialog > on this subject. All of the mysterious O/U producing devices, T Henry > Moray, Floyd Sweet VYA, MRA. MEG worked by magnetic field conversion of > some sort. Norm > > On 1/1/2019 1:49 PM, Bob Paddock wrote: > >> The entire copper disk in a conventional Faraday generator > >> is immersed in a uniform magnetic field, and the magnetic field > >> surrounding a Halbach array is anything but uniform! >> > > Precisely my point. > > > > What happens to the spaghetti model of the Aether > > when it is a non-linear magnetic field around the disk? > > Any Interesting Anomalies? > > Uniform yet twisted spaghetti maybe?
[4/10] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna [1 Attachment]
2019-01-02T19:05:53-08:00
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Mick
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Do magnetic field lines have different levels of energy states a simile to a laser with electrons? excitation, population inversion emission ground state... Could the spaghetti be the closest to ground state with everything relaxed and parked close together? How could we model this to observe with a core driven to inductive field collapse and the spike event in a way in which one could differentiate between the states... Zeeman observations perhaps with spin angular momentum spin orbit coupling and splitting http://www.columbia.edu/itc/chemistry/photochem/spin/05.pdf http://www.columbia.edu/itc/chemistry/photochem/spin/05.pdf
[5/10] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna [1 Attachment]
2019-01-03T00:35:16-08:00
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Douglas Konzen
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Hi Mick The spaghetti is spinning, and this spinning is caused by the resistance of the aether, and the adjacent "reacting:strings of spaghetti will counter rotate like magnetic gears since they will want to be NS magnetically attached you could call it....there are for sure "thicker" strings of spaghetti near the magnetic "source" (permanenet magnet or electromagnet) and thinner spaghetti strings, and more of them further away. With just one magnet and some ferrous dust and piece of glass you can see it all, but as soon as you get two magnets together, or electromagnet induced by sweeping magnet, or whatever there will be besides a single magnet to study now it gets into insane spaghetti strings that is almost impossible to map out especially when you have a sweeping magnet or bucking magnets sweeping past each other but maybe not that difficult if things are done in micrometer segments in sequence.... the "fields" manifest are one thing to study, but the individual spaghetti strings is another...could be the spacing and pattern is all about electrical flow comes first in the flow of the strings, and the resultant magnetic fields of strings cause the string-rotation and seperationn caused by aether between and its counter force between the varioius strengths and thicknesses of spaghetti flowing and spinning.....anyways all just konehead theory based on konehead theory. Kone
[6/10] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna
2019-01-03T10:50:05-08:00
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Douglas Konzen
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Hi Warren again Just thinking, if rotor was two magnets, one facing N, other S, and then 3 coils as stators the rotor spins past, now you would get a nice AC signal with every rotation 3 positive peaks and 3 negative peaks....at around 2750 rpm you should be making some good 60hz AC which you could use to run a rotovertor motor and you could spin DC motor with rectified output from rotovertor run cap phase with series transformer like you did with the DC boat motor as load......now belt and pulley the DC motor up to spin the "hippy motor" (now only altenator it is working as) at that 2750rpm exact... Dave told me they had to start it out slow with variac, and slowly increase speed until you get it latched up or something so this makes me think the hippy motor was really a hippy alternator more or less sort of design that had zero lenz law as the rotor magnets spun past the coils in this 2 NS magnet rotor and 3 stator coils design....so this would take total of 6 clamshells, with all the splatter-type pickup coils mounted to match the flux-dot pattern....Dave told me the clamshells were not a required sort of material,and you could use anything non ferrous of that shape, but the clamshells had that right shape to them, and they had some available.....Some girls in the commune were hired to do the clamshell and coil winding and gluing into the clamshells - the delicate work.... so this also make me think of hippy commune on California coast perhaps the girls knew nothing of the Russian rifles too... Kone
[7/10] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna
2019-01-03T14:06:05+00:00
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Warren Keillor
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DougI think you may have nailed it.How did Howard Johnson make his magnetic devices? That glass and magnet, with iron filings, of course!He was thus able to three dimensionally map the areas between magnets, adding and removing as needed.It was so simple, yet we missed it.Those lines are quite important considerations for us. We must now experiment and learn how to make use of them.Good stuff DougCheers Warren Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 3:52 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: Hi Mick The spaghetti is spinning, and this spinning is caused by the resistance of the aether, and the adjacent "reacting:strings of spaghetti will counter rotate like magnetic gears since they will want to be NS magnetically attached you could call it....there are for sure "thicker" strings of spaghetti near the magnetic "source" (permanenet magnet or electromagnet) and thinner spaghetti strings, and more of them further away. With just one magnet and some ferrous dust and piece of glass you can see it all, but as soon as you get two magnets together, or electromagnet induced by sweeping magnet, or whatever there will be besides a single magnet to study now it gets into insane spaghetti strings that is almost impossible to map out especially when you have a sweeping magnet or bucking magnets sweeping past each other but maybe not that difficult if things are done in micrometer segments in sequence.... the "fields" manifest are one thing to study, but the individual spaghetti strings is another...could be the spacing and pattern is all about electrical flow comes first in the flow of the strings, and the resultant magnetic fields of strings cause the string-rotation and seperationn caused by aether between and its counter force between the varioius strengths and thicknesses of spaghetti flowing and spinning.....anyways all just konehead theory based on konehead theory. 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[8/10] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna
2019-01-03T18:11:55+00:00
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Douglas Konzen
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Hi Warren Those thicker spaghetti strings and thinner ones out further, you will see if you "slice" through the flux field lines with glass and ferrite dust slicing horizontally, if for example you have magnet situated vertical with N on top S at bottom or S on top N on bottom doesn't matter..... Actually this flux mapping technique told to me from builder of the hippy motor I call it (a looper built around 1969 by a group of people at that time also building fake Kalishakov machine guns for the US army assassination and covert groups to use, so that for one purpose of many, murders and assasinations could then seem to be coming from the Vietcong or NVA but in reality the murders were from the US military or CIA (phoenix program) Anyways somehow Mr Kalishnakov himself was over seeing this program (probably from CIA payments and offer he couldn't refuse or else) And after this hippy motor "side project":was completed and powering a cabin in looped mode, Mr K came and took it away, with it never to be seen again....those fucking hippys eh Anyways I have explaned before here, but enjoy explaining again... first they took a rare earth magnet (new stuff at this time) and put a coil and core on top of it it, and then ignited the coil with either pulsed DC or AC I don't know but probably pulsed DC...I assume there were two panes of thin glass between the magnet and coil, with the ferrous dust between the glass panes....probably the airgap created by the glass would be the exact same airgap that the motor would eventually have. So, when that coil was pulsed, you could see the thicker lines (these would appear as dots) and would be nearer the coil and magnet and thinner ones out further and more of these too....a very specific thickness, pattern, spacing and number of flux "dots" of the flux-line cross sectioned you could call it you could then see..... I was told the coils rotated and there were three at 120 degrees with two magnets at 180 degrees but he said this might be other way around since it was so long ago. He said that when you loaded the coils to make power, and if the stator magnets were directly "in the way" of the rotational path of the rotor coils, you would get lots of bogging down and it worked like shit....(lenz law) So to get around this, they mounted clamshells like ears, on each side of the stator magnets, and drilled holes in clamshells mapping exaclly the pattern and thicknesses of those flux dots they mapped out already with the glass and ferroius dust... He said they used what he thought were pencil leads as the cores of the tiny coils stuck and and glued to the clamshells....I had impression these cores and coils about an inch long or so....but the length would be decidied upon just how much and how long the flux stretches out into space as it comes out there at the "sides" 90 degrees to rotation of rotpr... Then each coil wire had diode on it, then all coils combined into single power source they had enough power to loop it back into itself, and power left over too...I also assume the coils in rotor would be pulsed in DC at appropriate time and pulsewidty to rotate the rotor, just as any pulse DC motor, but perhaps it would run on AC too if you get it right....I don't know maybe there was a second motor to rotate this thing with belt he didn't say that but the whole idea comes down to collecting power from coils sweeping past magnets (or vice versa) without lenz law because of the 90 degree positioning of the clamshell ears, and the perfectly spaced pencil-lead cores with coils around them...could be and I think so, the pencil lead thing was actually very thin rods of ferrite like from some radio antennae arrays....The guy who told me this (DaveRzzzzzzbell) was a machinist in this project, and he made a commutator out of a "sloped and curved": gold contact plate that had roller-contacts attached to shaft of motor rotate around and make sliding/rolling contact with that gold plate so that was how it was timed and pulsed (and/or when power was taken out in rotation) Dave plays guitar in fuckedtones in the later years around 2000 and when I showed him my roller commutators made of skateboard bearings, and explained the splatter coil energy I was playing with and collecting in my konehead motors, he then opened up telling me this whole story...he made a rotor for me to assemble into my motors, (for three coils at 120 degrees) in his off-time at worlk in machine shop, also drew me some pictures of it...he told me they weren't really hippies, it was just a commune building those Russian rifle copies but I think they were hippies myself so call it the hippy motor.....Dave worked as medic with his uncle during Vietnam war when he was only 15 in some non-military red cross type job he has lots of stories..... Kone
[9/10] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna
2019-01-03T18:53:46+00:00
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Warren Keillor
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Hi DougThe Seventies were an unbelievable crazy time, both good, and bad, but full of optimism.That is quite the story.I believe it. I made a Mark2 WWll Sten gun for a movie, which the Ontario police confiscated for six months.I got it back only after articals in the news papers were showing contraband automatic weapons on the pile on front page featured my sten gun. I just started sending rental invoices that hit the main office. They were using it illegally, as a photo prop. An officer shortly delivered it to my office very promptly. Although mine was made of steel, perfect, in every exterior way, it contained no genuine sten gun parts. I fabricated everything , which in a sten gun, wasn't hard, as they were pretty rough, and ready, war time productions. We have to play with those lines, maybe making up a iron filings liquid filled glass ?Keep up your good work with your motor generatorCheers Warren Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 1:12 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: Hi Warren Those thicker spaghetti strings and thinner ones out further, you will see if you "slice" through the flux field lines with glass and ferrite dust slicing horizontally, if for example you have magnet situated vertical with N on top S at bottom or S on top N on bottom doesn't matter..... Actually this flux mapping technique told to me from builder of the hippy motor I call it (a looper built around 1969 by a group of people at that time also building fake Kalishakov machine guns for the US army assassination and covert groups to use, so that for one purpose of many, murders and assasinations could then seem to be coming from the Vietcong or NVA but in reality the murders were from the US military or CIA (phoenix program) Anyways somehow Mr Kalishnakov himself was over seeing this program (probably from CIA payments and offer he couldn't refuse or else) And after this hippy motor "side project":was completed and powering a cabin in looped mode, Mr K came and took it away, with it never to be seen again....those fucking hippys eh Anyways I have explaned before here, but enjoy explaining again... first they took a rare earth magnet (new stuff at this time) and put a coil and core on top of it it, and then ignited the coil with either pulsed DC or AC I don't know but probably pulsed DC...I assume there were two panes of thin glass between the magnet and coil, with the ferrous dust between the glass panes....probably the airgap created by the glass would be the exact same airgap that the motor would eventually have. So, when that coil was pulsed, you could see the thicker lines (these would appear as dots) and would be nearer the coil and magnet and thinner ones out further and more of these too....a very specific thickness, pattern, spacing and number of flux "dots" of the flux-line cross sectioned you could call it you could then see..... I was told the coils rotated and there were three at 120 degrees with two magnets at 180 degrees but he said this might be other way around since it was so long ago. He said that when you loaded the coils to make power, and if the stator magnets were directly "in the way" of the rotational path of the rotor coils, you would get lots of bogging down and it worked like shit....(lenz law) So to get around this, they mounted clamshells like ears, on each side of the stator magnets, and drilled holes in clamshells mapping exaclly the pattern and thicknesses of those flux dots they mapped out already with the glass and ferroius dust... He said they used what he thought were pencil leads as the cores of the tiny coils stuck and and glued to the clamshells....I had impression these cores and coils about an inch long or so....but the length would be decidied upon just how much and how long the flux stretches out into space as it comes out there at the "sides" 90 degrees to rotation of rotpr... Then each coil wire had diode on it, then all coils combined into single power source they had enough power to loop it back into itself, and power left over too...I also assume the coils in rotor would be pulsed in DC at appropriate time and pulsewidty to rotate the rotor, just as any pulse DC motor, but perhaps it would run on AC too if you get it right....I don't know maybe there was a second motor to rotate this thing with belt he didn't say that but the whole idea comes down to collecting power from coils sweeping past magnets (or vice versa) without lenz law because of the 90 degree positioning of the clamshell ears, and the perfectly spaced pencil-lead cores with coils around them...could be and I think so, the pencil lead thing was actually very thin rods of ferrite like from some radio antennae arrays....The guy who told me this (DaveRzzzzzzbell) was a machinist in this project, and he made a commutator out of a "sloped and curved": gold contact plate that had roller-contacts attached to shaft of motor rotate around and make sliding/rolling contact with that gold plate so that was how it was timed and pulsed (and/or when power was taken out in rotation) Dave plays guitar in fuckedtones in the later years around 2000 and when I showed him my roller commutators made of skateboard bearings, and explained the splatter coil energy I was playing with and collecting in my konehead motors, he then opened up telling me this whole story...he made a rotor for me to assemble into my motors, (for three coils at 120 degrees) in his off-time at worlk in machine shop, also drew me some pictures of it...he told me they weren't really hippies, it was just a commune building those Russian rifle copies but I think they were hippies myself so call it the hippy motor.....Dave worked as medic with his uncle during Vietnam war when he was only 15 in some non-military red cross type job he has lots of stories..... 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[10/10] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna
2019-01-04T00:27:33+00:00
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Warren Keillor
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DOUGTALK OF SYNERGY! You just gave me an idea to try.That Kromery of mine, I never put a scope on the signal coming off it.I have no clue what frequency, and rpm relationship it develops.So far, with two coils(actually four, wired as two), oh, quadra filar, able to be wired any which way, as it was made to be an experimental apparatus. There are six horse shoe super magnets of 400lbs pull each nsnsns...., with the two cores passing through either leg of the magnets. Its a tricky apparatus, but with a finger turning the flywheel, you can light a 40 watt bulb. At slow speeds, there is very little lenz's law, but at high speeds the Bedini wire cores get warm(eddy currents?)For me, I believe the Kromery trick to be the same one you get when you play with two super magnets, stuck together. Forget trying to pull them apart. However, you can slide them sideways. Cheers Waren Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 2:21 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: Hi Warren again Just thinking, if rotor was two magnets, one facing N, other S, and then 3 coils as stators the rotor spins past, now you would get a nice AC signal with every rotation 3 positive peaks and 3 negative peaks....at around 2750 rpm you should be making some good 60hz AC which you could use to run a rotovertor motor and you could spin DC motor with rectified output from rotovertor run cap phase with series transformer like you did with the DC boat motor as load......now belt and pulley the DC motor up to spin the "hippy motor" (now only altenator it is working as) at that 2750rpm exact... Dave told me they had to start it out slow with variac, and slowly increase speed until you get it latched up or something so this makes me think the hippy motor was really a hippy alternator more or less sort of design that had zero lenz law as the rotor magnets spun past the coils in this 2 NS magnet rotor and 3 stator coils design....so this would take total of 6 clamshells, with all the splatter-type pickup coils mounted to match the flux-dot pattern....Dave told me the clamshells were not a required sort of material,and you could use anything non ferrous of that shape, but the clamshells had that right shape to them, and they had some available.....Some girls in the commune were hired to do the clamshell and coil winding and gluing into the clamshells - the delicate work.... so this also make me think of hippy commune on California coast perhaps the girls knew nothing of the Russian rifles too... 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