Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna

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Norm,

You bought all the parts then but never got the unit together to light
it up just one time?   I am not sure how you undertook so many things to
such a degree while having a real job and supporting a family.

Tesla was superhuman also in the amount of stuff he had going, but there
is little info on his life and experiments after about 1910.  Have you
found more info on his later life or inventions?  He supposedly lived in
some castle for awhile working on remote control stuff but little on
this, then later on allegedly just a crazy old man feeding the birds
with an occasional birthday announcement.  I can't fathom a mind like
that with access to vacuum tubes becoming totally idle.

Any info you can point to in reference to Teslas later life I would love
to find out.

Do you know anything about Arthur Mathews if he ever really worked with
Tesla if any of his claims have validity?

On 12/31/2018 6:21 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> https://www.ewm-group.com/en/specialised-knowledge/colour-codes-for-tungsten-electrodes.html 
> Mick, I had already bought the WT-20 Red 2% tungsten rods and a
> Russian RADIAC to monitor the alpha particle radiation. The square
> magnetic channel is typical MHD technology with the pickup plates for
> the 90 degree DC + and - distribution made of silver in my device.  I
> had a bank of large storage caps, 3.5 MFD @ 60KV for the HVDC output. 
> I was salvaging out the large Pressure Swing Absorption (PSA) units
> used by the Western Electric (Bell Telephone) switching centers to
> Nitrogen dry their cables. These units produced good nitrogen from
> compressed air and desiccant dried it.   Another one of my research
> endeavors that got side tracked when the GAZPROM contract materialized
> in 2005, IVR, (Implosion Vortex Reactor) to produce Hydrogen.  My lab
> was just too busy a place in addition to me having to still work for a
> living. No time to play!   Like you, I was always fascinated by the
> Tesla Manifesto and just by accident acquired the plans for the Tesla
> Nitrogen burning device.  Now we know what it is all about.  I still
> have not figured out what the by-product would be from the nitrogen
> burning other than a darn good soil fertilizer to which Tesla alluded
> to in his writings. Tesla understood the Nitrogen Fixation by
> Lightning which occurs in nature.  Plants love it. 
>
> On 12/30/2018 8:41 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> A trip to the welding store and some tig high thorium rods and what
>> would you think is a good housing material, barium titanate, mica? 
>> and would you use that black body coating on the pickup plates
>> surfaces the underneath being a cation and anion doped conductor such
>> as phosphate copper and nickel aluminum?  Maybe some length to assist
>> in the convection?  How much lead around this in case it throws
>> neutrons or gamma?
>>
>> Could be the design calls for the conductors parallel and insulators
>> opposite to create the square profile rather than a single material. 
>> The field coil might work better with the pole pieces behind the
>> pickup plates or 45 degrees rather than 90 degrees, right hand
>> rule... hmm...   Bench testing required.
>>
>>
>> On 12/30/2018 12:29 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage of
>>> iron phase shift.
>>>
>>> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>>>
>>> Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>>>
>>> This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                      What is Heat #2
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>
>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>
>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>
>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.  The reason for this
>>>
>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>
>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.  My
>>>
>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>
>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>
>>> electronic cooling devices.  Would you believe that most
>>>
>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>
>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>
>>> junction.  Historically we find that German physicist,
>>>
>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>
>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>
>>> electrical energy resulted.  Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>
>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>
>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.  It was not
>>>
>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>
>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>
>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>
>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>
>>> reversed.  These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>
>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>
>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>
>>> differentials.  In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>
>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.  In
>>>
>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>
>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>
>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>
>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>
>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>
>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>
>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.  The first
>>>
>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>
>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.   With a
>>>
>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>
>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.  Increasing
>>>
>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>
>>> and voltage.  About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>
>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>
>>> the KeelyNet BBS.   My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>
>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>
>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>
>>> thermal energy across the junction.  This is a directly
>>>
>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>
>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>
>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>
>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.  We have
>>>
>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>
>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>
>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>
>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.  Would
>>>
>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>
>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.   Back in 1840
>>>
>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>
>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>
>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>
>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>
>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>
>>> passing through the nozzles.   After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>
>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>
>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>
>>> not purely mechanical.  The atoms of the material lose or
>>>
>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>
>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>
>>> transitions between phases.  More energy is present after
>>>
>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>
>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>
>>> explained.  When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>
>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>
>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>
>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>
>>> totally not understood by modern science.  Now my suspicions
>>>
>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>
>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>
>>> question of, What is heat?    We were told in the school
>>>
>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>
>>> of energy.  What is the form of this energy?  Let us look at
>>>
>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>
>>> process.  When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>
>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>
>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>
>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.  The
>>>
>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.  Now
>>>
>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>
>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>
>>> net negative state or cold.  Heat or cold is based on the
>>>
>>> ion relationship in the material.  When we apply a flame
>>>
>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>
>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>
>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>
>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>
>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>
>>> (ions).  Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>
>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>
>>> how the process works.  All phase change processes work the
>>>
>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>
>>> processes which we were taught.  Everything in chemistry is
>>>
>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>
>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>
>>> At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>>>
>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>
>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>
>>> cooling effects.  Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>
>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>
>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.  This is a
>>>
>>> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>>
>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>
>>> current involved.   It is possible to develop this ion
>>>
>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>
>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.  Remember
>>>
>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>
>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>
>>> as in the Peltier device.   I hope that this dialog will
>>>
>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>
>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>
>>> of experimentation.   Norm
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/30/2018 10:49 AM, Bob Paddock wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes
>>>> Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
>>>> whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
>>>> Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.
>>>>
>>>> There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
>>>> review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
>>>> based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.
>>>>
>>>> http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
>>>> fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"
>>>>
>>>> which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
>>>> based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.
>>>>
>>>> We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
>>>> pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?
>>>>
>>>>> “My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
>>>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>>>> Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
>>>>
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Subject Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna
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