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Thanks guys, some of that looks feasible. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 11/7/18, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments] To: [email protected] Received: Wednesday, November 7, Jakob, You may also have a look at this as it's a less complex version incorporating a couple of Norms findings allegedly allowing for enough power to run internal combustion engines from water and a carbon arc. The name is funny as it's a pun from the lexicon of a pilot one never wants to hear from the cockpit. If the pilot says bingofuel to ATC that means he thinks he may have just enough fuel to the drop to land the plane so clear me for a runway and get the emergency crews there. http://bingofuel.online.fr/bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote: Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab. Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with. See: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en . There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of cheap energy. In addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on. https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741 Please read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/ https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/ "SUPER STEAM - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings." For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2 Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame) This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record". Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred. I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp globes. After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead. A side note is needed here! The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI. Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil. The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en (6C + 12 H2O = 6CO2 + 24H) Hydrogen Reactor Development Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock. This unit was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation. This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine. To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, reactor design took on a radical change. By incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one stage of operation. Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form. Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material. Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process. The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios. I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing! Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be doing within my area of experitise! BTW! I have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense! As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit from PR! Lol On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball . i never will not have a lab i can work in, that is worst than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard ! (H) ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote : Cmon Hector, Bad taste! The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself. Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here. "Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?" On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote: Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls ! ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote : Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion! I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in! Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!'' That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site. I find you statement very interesting: Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient. ?????? Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up! We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach! I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys! Norm On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... [EVGRAY] wrote: Thanks Norman, But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you! I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that. And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation) I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings. If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient. Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min. Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it. I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around. I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it. Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care about what he/she will be doing tomorrow. Jakob -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery To: [email protected], "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM Jacob! That would be a rather complex answer but here is your starting point! https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION Research back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best catalyst in electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have the cell used in the Elemental Replication experiments. http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm The hidden part of this research is the use of a nickel component in the combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition systems to enable water injection in gas engine which high lighted the Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC discharge! My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell to produce hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as shown by the Dr. Ehrenhaft document. I would tell you to pursue the super high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an electrolytic cell. The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid collection of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a .020" mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC power supply. You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water and the gaps will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms after a short period of running, the gathered ions totally short cell. During the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas produced which I burned off as it was generated. Much can be said about driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers research showed. Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman, Eagle Research is running well ahead of the crowd on the production of H-H-O. Just for giggles! 16 October 1996 To: Hal Fox, Fusion Facts Elemental Replication ? Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the possibilities of making what is termed “Pristine Water”. This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information removed. This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell. This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at the time of original creation. “Holly Water”is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC. After several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a true “pristine water” a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate electrolyte. A solution was selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest assimilated into the body. With the electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after “pristine water”. After about an hour of operation the cell went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature rapidly climbing to boiling point and the current out of sight. When the cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit which shorted the cell plates. Our first thought was that the electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal minerals which caused the deposit found. The electrolyte was allowed to settle out the precipitate. After decanting off, the clear electrolyte was returned to the cell for another run. Again the cell operated normally for about an hour with a normal recombination burn and recovery of the water being consumed by the cell in the splitting action. Again the cell temperature and current mirrored the first run. Again the cell contained the same amount of sludge residue. This process was repeated ten (10) times with exactly the same results. All of the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an electronic scale with a five decimal resolution. The cell plates and all hardware were weighed to determine any loss of mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed in the sludge. Five hundred (500) ml of the original electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum distilled to determine the exact mass of colloidal minerals contained. When all factors were considered we came out with a mass gain of 48 gm which cannot be explained by conventional electrolysis. After talking to Dr. Robert Bass and Hal Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on the transmutation of elements in the cold fusion cell which is the process that Dr. John Bockris has been so active in. Both Dr. Bass and Hal Fox stated that what I was observing is not the same as the transmutation observed in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall mass gain and not a lateral movement of elements in the periodic table toward lighter elements with a resulting heat release. This unusual cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the scientific community. At this time I have built a complete new cell with every possible factor which could possibly explain the mass gain considered and documented. The ten (10) consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed soon and a report will be forthcoming. What is interesting about this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was made with the original electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was recovered as in the previous ten runs. Since the same electrolyte is reused each time with only distilled water being added to replace the volume lost by the removal of the solids and the water recovered by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to explain the observed phenomenon. The electrolyte appears stronger in mineral concentration and shows no sign of depletion. After conferring with Joe Tyls we arrived at the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals contained in the electrolyte provide the atomic templates needed for the monatomic hydrogen (father of all the elements) to replicate selected elements in this exotic mixture. If you subscribe to the theories of the late Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave based periodic table with monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as hydrons (precursor to hydrogen) then it is possible for the replication of elements directly from energy input alone. This is how all matter was created in the beginning as described by Schappeller in “The Physics of the Primary State of Matter”. I will keep all informed as to our progress and findings in this very intriguing venture. Norman Wootan P.O. Box 141049 Dallas, TX 75214 (214) 360-0865 CC: Gene Mallove, Infinite Energy CC: Dr. John Bockris, Texas A/M On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... [EVGRAY] wrote: Thanks Norman, BTW, what is the most effective water split device that you ever put you hands on? As HHO researcher for dekades you should be able to point us directly to the most effective known! Please be specific about reconstruction of the same, since we are in public domain it will become public knowledge and public good. I assume you intend nothing else,rigth ? -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [3 Attachments] To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>, "Lane Wootan" <lanewootan@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...>, [email protected] To understand the unwinding of a thread leading to Magnetic Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery, we have to dust off our 9th grade Chemistry Books! http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm I guess Dr. Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic Current. (Jon Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix). https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/ Ah! Ha! more on Magnetic Currents!!! https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump so that you can make the helix tube Vortex! Ferricpetacarbonyl or micro fine neo powder to provide the liquid metal for pump circuit. Lots of reading here! Please think about the ramifications of a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr. Ehrenhaft
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james glinski
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Bingo fuel is a good way to run a motor but the carbon rods you either have to buy them or make them to make the get any carbon source to make biochar once made grind up dry and add molasses to make past fill tube like copper or steel heat to red hot and aply 500 volts till cool .experimenting is nessary to get the voltage lower and the set up just right ...found information in a very old patent .but if you persevere you got it .now the problem is a constant cheap Carbon source ..dryed grass clippings to old wood pallets .no ash as in gasogen .clean and you can use them for electrodes or welding rods for cutting steel of a extream spot light like in concentration camps . On Wednesday, November 7, 2018, Jakob Wall [email protected] [EVGRAY] < [email protected]> wrote: > > > Thanks guys, some of that looks feasible. > > -------------------------------------------- > On Wed, 11/7/18, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments] > To: [email protected] > Received: Wednesday, November 7, Jakob, > You may also have a look at this as it's a less > complex version > incorporating a couple of Norms findings allegedly > allowing for > enough power to run internal combustion engines from > water and a > carbon arc. The name is funny as it's a pun from > the lexicon of a > pilot one never wants to hear from the cockpit. If > the pilot says > bingofuel to ATC that means he thinks he may have just > enough fuel > to the drop to land the plane so clear me for a runway > and get the > emergency crews there. > > http://bingofuel.online.fr/bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm > > > > > On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, > Norman Wootan > [email protected] > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On > 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman > Wootan wrote: > > > > Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on > here need to > read the Whole Story as to why I no longer > have a > research lab. Jakob, I'm sorry I did > not reveal to you > the BEST in my opinion of methods of > producing hydrogen > gas for I felt it was a little too advanced > and > difficult for you to experiment with. See: > https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en > . There is a very long story behind this > US Patent and > a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a > very > inexpensive method of splitting water has > been the Holy > Grail of cheap energy. In addition to > the research > papers and links that I gave to you, here > are some more > to dwell on. > https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_ > water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen > https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen- > and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature > https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into- > hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one- > kilowatt-hour-of-electricity > http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm > https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741 > Please read carefully about the play of > Nickel in this > approach! > > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction > I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, > AR where > they still had the old water gas generator > and gas > storage facility. > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation > https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water- > splitting-catalyst.html > https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could- > split-water-cheaply/ > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to- > make-hydrogen-from-water/ > "SUPER STEAM - A Tesla > conference in Colorado > surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). > Leonard > Dorsett and friends from Texas share > strikingly similar > views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have > technology which > produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F > without a > boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over > traditional > boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out > gasoline fires > and treat many waste problems. Of major > importance to > Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help > to produce > heat and Aquastone at considerable > savings." > > > > For further information on Aquarian Agency > Ltd. they can > be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, > <https://maps.google.com/?q=38+Weir+Rd,+Wimbledon,+%0D%0A+London+SW19&entry=gmail&source=g> > London SW19 SUG, > England or on Internet at <aquarian > ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM > TECHNOLOGY PART 2 > > > > Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX > 76092) > demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at > the 1994 > International Tesla Symposium. SST is a > system for > producing steam at any temperature or > pressure > independently and instantly without the need > for a > conventional boiler. It can instantly > produce steam of > any temperature from hot water at 180F to > super heated > steam at over 3000F, while pressures can > vary from 1PSI > to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up > to over > 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, > methane, > petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen > or just > about anything else that bums and converts > virtually > 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: > The person > in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA > fame) > > > > This all sounds great, but how does it work? > The basis > of the unit is a specially designed open > throat chamber > with controlled air, water and fuel > interaction and a > high voltage ignition resulting in a direct > fire process > establishing thermal zones. This creates a > stoichiometric condition resulting in a full > spectrum of > steam product. Now comes the interesting > part At the > increased temperatures of steam, > disassociation occurs. > (Could this be a clue to running cars on > water??) The > hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an > exponential > increase of energy resulting in super heated > steam. A > similar superheat process was addressed by > Tesla in the > October 12, 1911 publication of the > "Engineering News > Record". > > > > Applications of the SST system include a > much more > economical way of producing electricity as > no > conventional boiler is needed. It will also > be an ideal > low cost method for heating and cooling > homes and > businesses. Small portable units can be > developed for > home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect > and ant > removal, without the dangers of > insecticides. The system > can also be used for low cost purification > of polluted > water or sewerage and can also convert salt > water into > drinking water both quickly and > inexpensively. Other > uses are in fire fighting applications, ice > and snow > removal from roads, etc. and sterilization > and nurturing > of soil for agriculture where contamination > has > occurred. > I had designed a method of making hydrogen > from carbon > & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic > Bombardment > method of high frequency inside of spherical > inclosure > like this experiments with the carbon button > lamp > globes. After working with Leonard > Dorsett and his > Super Steam Project, I chose to use the > Water Shift > Process instead. A side note is needed > here! The Super > Steam Process was a result of Professor > Brown studying > the method the German's used for torpedo > propulsion from > WWI. Acetylene Gas and sea water produced > an exothermic > reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built > several > reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area > to break > (down hole) the parafin deposits to release > crude oil. > The Chemical equation for the reaction in > the US > Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en > > > > > > (6C > + 12 H2O = 6CO2 + 24H) > > > > Hydrogen > Reactor Development > > Original > concept design was a high > voltage, high frequency resonant device that > utilized > carbon water reaction with the feedstock > being in the > form of graphite rod stock. > This unit was > designed for vehicle application and had too > many > limitations to be used for mass hydrogen > generation. > This type reactor is very effective > at hydrogen > production since it targets the water vapor > molecule at > MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, > allowing the > carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms > leaving the > hydrogen free. This device was a closed > system that used > a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that > enabled the > hydrogen to be feed to an internal > combustion engine. > > To > allow for a sustained high mass flow of > hydrogen gas > output, reactor design took on a radical > change. > By incorporating the > Ranque/Hilsch, Counter > Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and > continuous high > mass flow and gas separation were > achieved in one > stage of operation. > Feedstock for > this type reactor could be any > carbon-based material > that could be put into a powder > form. Highest > carbon content of the feedstock provides > for the > most efficient hydrogen production with > the least > undesirable output > material. > > Super > high temperature operating regime was > chosen to be > above 2500 C for the purpose of > producing atomic > hydrogen in the process. > The original > reactor operated at temperatures that > easily > gasified basic carbon into a plasma > state > (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the > production > of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed > stock > ratios. > > > > > I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and > paid for my > 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. > lab the do the > Prototype machining and Proof of Concept > testing for > GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million > investment and > they got the rights to the process and I got > the > beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I > was a self > employed Contractor in Dallas working with > HVAC, > Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so > had to commute > 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for > my time! > Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 > acres took all > my time and when I suffered a neck fracture > in 2012, had > to retire. Liquidated the entire facility > and sold it > off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana > where I now > do a lot of relaxing and fishing! > Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel > so now I > will just contribute to the dialog inorder > to assist any > research you may be doing within my area of > experitise! BTW! I have been out to > pasture for a > long time now, so no BULL offense! As > Hector knows, "It > fits"! Lol > > > > > > > > Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol > Hat when you > come visit from PR! Lol > > > > > > > > > > On > 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > By the way ... i can hit mega millions > or the power > ball . i never will not have a lab i > can work in, > that is worst than death , you have no > idea of the > technology that had being lost by the > greedy fucking > bastards fucking my life , they will > loose all they > have "soon" because it had > being engineered that > way by accumulative bad karma, i have > another lab > they will never reach or be able to > intercept or > destroy and that will decide their fate > ..... they > will be fucked hard ! > > > > > > > > (H) > > > > ---In [email protected], > <mkjekyll@...> > wrote : > > > > > > Cmon Hector, > Bad taste! > > > The man had a more serious lab than > anyone else > here and his work speaks for itself. > Maybe he has > gained the fortune he desired through > R&D and > now shitting in tall cotton or gone > fishing > reaping the rewards of retirement. > Notwithstanding > is still kind enough to help point us > in the right > directions around here. > "Funny–I > can look back on a life > of > achievement, on > challenges met, > competitors bested, > obstacles > overcome. I’ve > accomplished more > than most men, and > without the use > of my legs. What?What > makes a man, > Mr. > Lebowski?" > > > On > 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > Dar n ! a Scientist inventor > with no lab > is like a breeding bull with > no balls ! > > > > > > > > > ---In [email protected], > <nwootan@...> > wrote : > > > > > Jacob! You asked me a > question and I > gave you my opinion! > I'm totally > retired at 80 years old > and have no > lab to experiment in! > Your quote; I > heard once a phrase from a > researcher > who said. '' Slow > down boy, we get > paid for llooking for > solutions, not > to find > them!'' That certainly does > not apply to me for I have > shared all > with the folks on this > site. I find > you statement very > interesting: > Technics that use up 10 % > of a magnet > in 24 hours with usual > amount of gas > looks to me extremely > inefficient. > ?????? Care > to share where you > saw the power of a > permanent magnet > being used up! We all > here on this > site share what ever > knowledge we have > on the various subjects > not seeking > any monetary gain in any > way! That is > my approach! I just > contribute to > the dialog when I run > across something > interesting and think it > will assist > you guys! Norm > > > > > On > 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob > Wall wall_jakob@... > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Norman, > > But i actually > asced for > ''most > efficient way'' to > split water known > to you! > > I realize there > are a lot of > different > technigues to do > just that. > > And yes i realize > you could > give me a rather > complex > answer. But > instead i hope for > a > > rather easy and > reproductive > answer since i am > looking > forward to solve > my enerrgy > > problems i just > can not live > with the momentary > (sad and > very stupid energy > situation) > > I am still not > giving up > becouse of a > couple mistakes > and > misunderstandings. > > If i would be a > car dealer and > you would ask me > for a most > efficient car > available on the > market > > i would for sure > not recommend > a Prius, since > there are a lot > of cars with > better fuel > economie > > even without being > a hybrid > and without > additional cost > like > batterys,e-motors and a > bunch added > ECU's > > > > Technics that use > up 10 % of a > magnet in 24 hours > with usual > amount of gas > looks to me > extremely > > inefficient. > > Also very > expensive HHO-Garage > products with > output of 1,6 > ltr/min. > > Come on, 6 rusty > nails and a > old car batery > does this job, > no need to spend > 1600 bucks on > it. > > I honestly > expected solide > advise or a honest > NO way boy, > i just talking > around. > > > > I heard once a > phrase from a > researcher who > said. '' Slow > down boy, we get > paid for > llooking for > > solutions, not to > find them!'' > That shoked me > deeply and even > if i get 150 years > old, i will > not forget it. > > Thats true treason > on mankind > and deciving the > people. I > really hope nobody > on this > forum only care > > > about what he/she > will be > doing tomorrow. > > > > Jakob > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > On Sun, 10/28/18, > Norman > Wootan nwootan@... > [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: Fwd: > Fwd: Re: > [EVGRAY] > Norm's Magnetic > Battery > > To: [email protected], > "Bert > Pool" <BertPool512@...>, > "Bob > Paddock" <bob.paddock@...>, > "joel > mcclain" <joel_76670@...>, > "Jon > Gentry" <jongen422@...>, > > "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>, > "Toby > Grotz" <wireless2@...>, > "Phil > Rembold" <prembold@...>, > "Angel > Alvarez" <angel@...>, > "Fredric > Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> > > Received: Sunday, > October 28, > 2018, 9:44 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jacob! That > would be a rather > complex answer > > but here is > your > > starting point! > > https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html > > After having been > heavily > involved in the > COLD FUSION > > Research > > back in the 70s > and 80s I > quickly settled > o0n the best > > catalyst in > > electrolytic cells > which is > pure nickel. I > still have > > the cell > > used in the > Elemental > Replication > experiments. > > > > > > http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm > > The hidden > > part of this > research is the > use of a nickel > component > > in the > > combustion > chamber. Bosch > developed 90,000V > ignition > > systems to > > enable water > injection in gas > engine which > high > > lighted the > > Graneau HV > decomposition of > water via HVDC > > discharge! > > My magnetic > Battery when run > as an electrolytic > cell > > to produce > > hydrogen does > produce a huge > amount of hydrogen > gas as > > shown by > > the Dr. Ehrenhaft > document. I > would tell you > to > > pursue the > super > > high Tesla > magnetic flux and > nickel electrodes > in an > > electrolytic > > cell. The major > obstacle to > be overcome is the > rapid > > collection > > of ions from > solution by the > 1.3 Tesla flux > across a > > .020" > > mechanical gap > which quickly > takes the cell > into a > > super-conduction > mode which > takes out the > driving DC > > power supply. > > You can flush the > magnetic > gaps with > distilled water > > and the gaps > > will show in the > meg-ohm range > then go to zero > ohms > > after a short > > period of running, > the > gathered ions > totally short > > cell. During > > the brief runs > there is a huge > amount of hydrogen > gas > > produced > > which I burned off > as it was > generated. Much > can be > > said about > > driving the cell > with high > frequencies as the > Myers > > research > > showed. Our > friend up in > Canada at George > Wiseman, > > Eagle Research > > is running well > ahead of the > crowd on the > production > > of H-H-O. > > Just for > giggles! > > > > > > 16 October > > 1996 > > To: Hal > > Fox, Fusion > Facts > > Elemental > > Replication ? > > > > Around > mid > > September > > I put together > an > > electrolysis cell > similar to > the Miles Nickel > Cold > > Fusion Cell > > with the goal > of > > exploring the > possibilities of > making what is > > termed > “Pristine > > Water”. This > water > > which will be used > by > Homeopaths > > will have had all > memory or > information > > removed. This is > accomplished > by > > recombining > monatomic > > hydrogen and > monatomic oxygen > as generated in > a > > properly > > designed cell. > This is > > the ultimate in > purity since > this is > > water with > conditions at the > time of > original > > creation. > “Holly Water”is a > term > > coined by my > dear > > friend and fellow > researcher > Joe Tyls of > > Vancouver, BC. > After several > weeks of > > successful > operation > > producing water > that had all > the earmarks of > a > > true > “pristine > > water” a > fellow > > researcher > suggested using an > alternate > > electrolyte. A > solution was > selected > > that contained > 77 > > colloidal minerals > as found in > plants that are > the > > easiest > > assimilated into > the > > body. With > the > > electrolyte > changed the > > cell was put back > into > operation as > before with a > > nice > > recombination burn > and > > production of the > sought after > “pristine > > water”. > > > > > > After about > an > > hour of > > operation the > cell > > went absolutely > “nuts” with > the temperature > > rapidly > climbing > > to boiling > point > > and the current > out of sight. > > When the > > cell was opened we > found a > deep red sludge > deposit > > which > > shorted the > cell > > plates. Our > first > > thought was that > the > > electrolytic > action > precipitated out > the colloidal > > minerals > > which caused > the > > deposit found. > The > > electrolyte was > allowed > > to settle out > the > > precipitate. > After > > decanting off, > the clear > electrolyte > > was > > returned to the > > cell for another > run. Again > the cell > operated > > normally for > > about an hour with > a > > normal > recombination burn and > recovery of the > > water being > > consumed by the > cell > > in the splitting > action. > Again > > the cell > > temperature and > current > mirrored the > first > > run. > > Again the cell > contained the > same amount of > > sludge > > residue. This > process > > was repeated ten > (10) times > > with exactly the > same > results. > > All of > > the sludge was > carefully dried > and weighed on > an > > electronic > > scale with a > five > > decimal > > resolution. > > The cell plates > and all > hardware were > > weighed to > > determine any loss > of > > mass that may > contribute to > the mass gain > observed > > in the > > sludge. Five > hundred > > (500) ml of the > original > > electrolyte > solution used in > the cell was > vacuum > > distilled to > > determine the > > exact mass of > colloidal > minerals > > contained. > > When all factors > were > considered we > came > > out with a > > mass gain of 48 > gm > > which cannot be > explained by > > conventional > > electrolysis. > > > > After > talking > > to Dr. > > Robert Bass and > Hal > > Fox I learned of a > patent that > has been filed > on > > the > > transmutation of > elements > > in the cold fusion > cell which > is the process > that > > Dr. John > > Bockris has been > so > > active in. > Both Dr. > > Bass and Hal > Fox > > stated that what I > was > observing is not > the same > > as the > > transmutation > observed > > in the cold fusion > cell since > I have a > overall > > mass gain and > > not a lateral > > movement of > elements in the > periodic table > toward > > lighter > > elements with a > > resulting heat > release. This > > unusual > > cell operation has > caused > quite a reaction > in the > > scientific > > community. At > this > > time I have built > a complete > new cell > > with every > possible factor > which could > possibly > > explain the > > mass gain > > considered and > documented. > The > > ten (10) > > consecutive runs > on the new > cell will be > completed > > soon and a > > report will be > > forthcoming. > What is > > interesting > about > > this phenomenon is > that when > an eleventh run > was > > made with the > > original > > electrolyte > exactly the same > amount of residue > was > > recovered > > as in the > previous > > ten > > runs. > > > > > > > Since > > the same > electrolyte is reused > each time with > only > > distilled > > water being > added > > to replace the > volume lost by > the removal of > the > > solids and > > the water > recovered > > by the > recombination burn we > are hard pressed > to > > explain the > > observed > > > phenomenon. The > > electrolyte > appears > > stronger in > mineral > concentration and > shows no > > sign of > > > > depletion. > > > > After > conferring > > with > > Joe Tyls we > arrived at > > the conclusion > that the 77 > colloidal > minerals > > contained in > the > > electrolyte > > provide the atomic > templates > needed for the > > monatomic > hydrogen > > (father of all > > the elements) to > replicate > selected elements > in > > this exotic > > mixture. If > you > > subscribe to the > theories of > the late > > Walter Russell and > his > explanation of the > octave > > based > > periodic table > with > > monatonic hydrogen > being what > he describes as > > hydrons > > (precursor to > hydrogen) > > then it is > possible for the > replication of > > elements > directly > > from energy > input > > alone. This is > how all > > matter was > > created in the > beginning as > described by > > Schappeller in > “The > > Physics of the > > Primary State of > Matter”. I > > will keep > > all informed as to > our > progress and > findings in > > this very > > intriguing > venture. > > > > Norman > > Wootan > > P.O. > > Box 141049 > > Dallas, > > TX 75214 > > (214) > > 360-0865 > > > > > > CC: Gene > Mallove, > > Infinite > > Energy > > CC: Dr. John > > Bockris, Texas > > A/M > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/28/2018 1:01 > AM, > > Jakob Wall > > wall_jakob@... > > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Norman, > > > > > > > > BTW, what is the > most > effective water > split > > device that > > you ever put you > hands on? > > > > As HHO researcher > for dekades > you should be > > able to point > > us directly to the > most > effective > known! > > > > Please be specific > about > reconstruction of > the > > same, since > > we are in public > domain it > will become > public > > knowledge > > and public good. I > assume you > intend nothing > > else,rigth ? > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > > > On Sat, 10/27/18, > Norman > Wootan nwootan@... > > [EVGRAY] > > <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Fwd: > Fwd: Re: > [EVGRAY] > Norm's > > Magnetic > > Battery [3 > Attachments] > > > > To: "Bert > Pool" <BertPool512@...>, > > "Bob > > Paddock" <bob.paddock@....>, > > "joel > mcclain" > > <joel_76670@...>, > > "Jon > Gentry" > > <jongen422@...>, > > "Lane > Wootan" > > <lanewootan@...>, > > > "Mbking42" > > <mbking42@...>, > > "Toby > Grotz" > > <wireless2@...>, > > "Phil > Rembold" > > <prembold@...>, > > "Angel > Alvarez" > > <angel@...>, > > "Fredric > Fletcher" > > <ffletcher@...>, > > [email protected] > > > > To understand the > unwinding of > a thread > > leading > > > > to Magnetic > > > > Generating > Hydrogen and this > Magnetic > Battery, > > we have > > > > to dust off > > > > our 9th grade > Chemistry > Books! > > > > http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm > > > > I guess Dr. > > > > Ehrenhaft was the > first to > propose a > Magnetic > > Current. > > > > (Jon > > > > Gentry, Your > liquid metal > vortex helix). > > > > https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/ > > > > Ah! Ha! more on > Magnetic > Currents!!! > > > > https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html > > > > https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application- > notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of- > purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w > > > > https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che > > > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential > > > > https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic- > although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron > > > > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_ > effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_ > electrolysis > > > > http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/ > electricwhirlpool.cfm > > > > http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm > > > > Now Jon Gentry you > have your > liquid metal > pump > > so > > > > that you can > > > > make the helix > tube Vortex! > > Ferricpetacarbonyl > or > > > > micro fine neo > > > > powder to provide > the liquid > metal for pump > > > > circuit. > > > > Lots of reading > here! > Please think > > about the > > > > ramifications > of > > > > a Magnetic Current > as proposed > by Dr. > > Ehrenhaft > > > ------------------------------ > Posted by: Jakob Wall <[email protected]> > ------------------------------ > Reply via web post > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/conversations/messages/109175;_ylc=X3oDMTJyZjVzN3IwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDM0MjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgzNjYzBG1zZ0lkAzEwOTE3NQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1NDE2Mjc4MjM-?act=reply&messageNum=109175> > • Reply to sender > <[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Fwd%3A%20Fwd%3A%20Re%3A%20%5BEVGRAY%5D%20Norm%27s%20Magnetic%20Battery%20%5B2%20Attachments%5D> > • Reply to group > <[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Fwd%3A%20Fwd%3A%20Re%3A%20%5BEVGRAY%5D%20Norm%27s%20Magnetic%20Battery%20%5B2%20Attachments%5D> > • Start a New Topic > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJla20zdnYxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDM0MjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgzNjYzBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTU0MTYyNzgyMw--> > • Messages in this topic > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/conversations/topics/109074;_ylc=X3oDMTM4dGswYmc3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDM0MjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgzNjYzBG1zZ0lkAzEwOTE3NQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1NDE2Mjc4MjMEdHBjSWQDMTA5MDc0> > (22) > ------------------------------ > Check out the automatic photo album with 16 photo(s) > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/photos/photomatic/1340257782;_ylc=X3oDMTE4M3R1OW82BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGNmOQNQSE9UT01BVElDBHNlYwNtZWdhcGhvbmU-> > from this topic. > [image: lpiihnonflfdegmn.png] [image: bdafpkagogdidkkg.png] [image: > lhkdpfhpenemopnf.png] [image: lpiihnonflfdegmn.png] [image: > lhkdpfhpenemopnf.png] > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/photos/photomatic/1340257782;_ylc=X3oDMTE4M3R1OW82BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGNmOQNQSE9UT01BVElDBHNlYwNtZWdhcGhvbmU-> > ------------------------------ >
[3/14] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
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Norman Wootan
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Jakob Wall, maybe the Old Tried and Tested over time wood gas technology would be best for you! Very simple and I built one to run a 5KW generator and it worked . This technology has been around since civilization first saw an underground coal seam burning without atmospheric oxygen. The burning coal converts ground water into carbon monoxide and hydrogen and is self sustaining for many years. Start by reading the history and applications. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator http://www.edina.eu/gas-generators/applications/non-conventional-gas/syngas/ See: attachment! During the development of my Hydrogen Vortex Reactor, I questioned the academic answer as to temperature that water vapor would break down into hydrogen and oxygen. After talking to a lot of very experienced fire fighters, the consensus was that if you spray water into a fire that is visibly WHITE HOT, the water will exacerbate the situation because you have entered the region of threshold dissociation of water vapor into hydrogen. Think about how an ordinary magnesium flare can burn underwater. Simple fact is that the magnesium burns so hot that the flame is self sustaining from the water. Happy building! Jakob. BTW! I build a wood gas generator from a heavy duty clamp top type 55 gal steel drum lined with fire brick and used leaves straw and wood chips as fuel feed stock. A water ash scrubber stage will give you clean syn-gas to run your generator. On 11/7/2018 5:57 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: > > Bingo fuel is a good way to run a motor but the carbon rods you either > have to buy them or make them to make the get any carbon source to > make biochar once made grind up dry and add molasses to make past fill > tube like copper or steel heat to red hot and aply 500 volts till cool > .experimenting is nessary to get the voltage lower and the set up just > right ...found information in a very old patent .but if you persevere > you got it .now the problem is a constant cheap Carbon source ..dryed > grass clippings to old wood pallets .no ash as in gasogen .clean and > you can use them for electrodes or welding rods for cutting steel of a > extream spot light like in concentration camps . > > > On Wednesday, November 7, 2018, Jakob Wall [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Thanks guys, some of that looks feasible. > > -------------------------------------------- > On Wed, 11/7/18, Mick [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 > Attachments] > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Received: Wednesday, November 7, Jakob, > You may also have a look at this as it's a less > complex version > incorporating a couple of Norms findings allegedly > allowing for > enough power to run internal combustion engines from > water and a > carbon arc. The name is funny as it's a pun from > the lexicon of a > pilot one never wants to hear from the cockpit. If > the pilot says > bingofuel to ATC that means he thinks he may have just > enough fuel > to the drop to land the plane so clear me for a runway > and get the > emergency crews there. > > http://bingofuel.online.fr/bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm > <http://bingofuel.online.fr/bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm> > > > > > On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, > Norman Wootan > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On > 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman > Wootan wrote: > > > > Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on > here need to > read the Whole Story as to why I no longer > have a > research lab. Jakob, I'm sorry I did > not reveal to you > the BEST in my opinion of methods of > producing hydrogen > gas for I felt it was a little too advanced > and > difficult for you to experiment with. See: > https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en > <https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en> > . There is a very long story behind this > US Patent and > a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a > very > inexpensive method of splitting water has > been the Holy > Grail of cheap energy. In addition to > the research > papers and links that I gave to you, here > are some more > to dwell on. > https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen > <https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen> > https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature > <https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature> > https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity > <https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity> > http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm > <http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm> > https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741 > <https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741> > Please read carefully about the play of > Nickel in this > approach! > > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting > <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting> > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction > <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction> > I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, > AR where > they still had the old water gas generator > and gas > storage facility. > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation > <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation> > https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html > <https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html> > https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/ > <https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/> > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/ > <https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/> > "SUPER STEAM - A Tesla > conference in Colorado > surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). > Leonard > Dorsett and friends from Texas share > strikingly similar > views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have > technology which > produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F > without a > boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over > traditional > boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out > gasoline fires > and treat many waste problems. Of major > importance to > Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help > to produce > heat and Aquastone at considerable > savings." > > > > For further information on Aquarian Agency > Ltd. they can > be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, > <https://maps.google.com/?q=38+Weir+Rd,+Wimbledon,+%0D%0A+London+SW19&entry=gmail&source=g> > London SW19 SUG, > England or on Internet at <aquarian > ocign.ape.org <http://ocign.ape.org>>. SUPER STEAM > TECHNOLOGY PART 2 > > > > Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX > 76092) > demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at > the 1994 > International Tesla Symposium. SST is a > system for > producing steam at any temperature or > pressure > independently and instantly without the need > for a > conventional boiler. It can instantly > produce steam of > any temperature from hot water at 180F to > super heated > steam at over 3000F, while pressures can > vary from 1PSI > to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up > to over > 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, > methane, > petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen > or just > about anything else that bums and converts > virtually > 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: > The person > in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA > fame) > > > > This all sounds great, but how does it work? > The basis > of the unit is a specially designed open > throat chamber > with controlled air, water and fuel > interaction and a > high voltage ignition resulting in a direct > fire process > establishing thermal zones. This creates a > stoichiometric condition resulting in a full > spectrum of > steam product. Now comes the interesting > part At the > increased temperatures of steam, > disassociation occurs. > (Could this be a clue to running cars on > water??) The > hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an > exponential > increase of energy resulting in super heated > steam. A > similar superheat process was addressed by > Tesla in the > October 12, 1911 publication of the > "Engineering News > Record". > > > > Applications of the SST system include a > much more > economical way of producing electricity as > no > conventional boiler is needed. It will also > be an ideal > low cost method for heating and cooling > homes and > businesses. Small portable units can be > developed for > home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect > and ant > removal, without the dangers of > insecticides. The system > can also be used for low cost purification > of polluted > water or sewerage and can also convert salt > water into > drinking water both quickly and > inexpensively. Other > uses are in fire fighting applications, ice > and snow > removal from roads, etc. and sterilization > and nurturing > of soil for agriculture where contamination > has > occurred. > I had designed a method of making hydrogen > from carbon > & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic > Bombardment > method of high frequency inside of spherical > inclosure > like this experiments with the carbon button > lamp > globes. After working with Leonard > Dorsett and his > Super Steam Project, I chose to use the > Water Shift > Process instead. A side note is needed > here! The Super > Steam Process was a result of Professor > Brown studying > the method the German's used for torpedo > propulsion from > WWI. Acetylene Gas and sea water produced > an exothermic > reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built > several > reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area > to break > (down hole) the parafin deposits to release > crude oil. > The Chemical equation for the reaction in > the US > Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en > <https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en> > > > > > > (6C > + 12 H2O = 6CO2 + 24H) > > > > Hydrogen > Reactor Development > > Original > concept design was a high > voltage, high frequency resonant device that > utilized > carbon water reaction with the feedstock > being in the > form of graphite rod stock. > This unit was > designed for vehicle application and had too > many > limitations to be used for mass hydrogen > generation. > This type reactor is very effective > at hydrogen > production since it targets the water vapor > molecule at > MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, > allowing the > carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms > leaving the > hydrogen free. This device was a closed > system that used > a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that > enabled the > hydrogen to be feed to an internal > combustion engine. > > To > allow for a sustained high mass flow of > hydrogen gas > output, reactor design took on a radical > change. > By incorporating the > Ranque/Hilsch, Counter > Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and > continuous high > mass flow and gas separation were > achieved in one > stage of operation. > Feedstock for > this type reactor could be any > carbon-based material > that could be put into a powder > form. Highest > carbon content of the feedstock provides > for the > most efficient hydrogen production with > the least > undesirable output > material. > > Super > high temperature operating regime was > chosen to be > above 2500 C for the purpose of > producing atomic > hydrogen in the process. > The original > reactor operated at temperatures that > easily > gasified basic carbon into a plasma > state > (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the > production > of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed > stock > ratios. > > > > > I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and > paid for my > 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. > lab the do the > Prototype machining and Proof of Concept > testing for > GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million > investment and > they got the rights to the process and I got > the > beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I > was a self > employed Contractor in Dallas working with > HVAC, > Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so > had to commute > 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for > my time! > Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 > acres took all > my time and when I suffered a neck fracture > in 2012, had > to retire. Liquidated the entire facility > and sold it > off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana > where I now > do a lot of relaxing and fishing! > Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel > so now I > will just contribute to the dialog inorder > to assist any > research you may be doing within my area of > experitise! BTW! I have been out to > pasture for a > long time now, so no BULL offense! As > Hector knows, "It > fits"! Lol > > > > > > > > Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol > Hat when you > come visit from PR! Lol > > > > > > > > > > On > 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > By the way ... i can hit mega millions > or the power > ball . i never will not have a lab i > can work in, > that is worst than death , you have no > idea of the > technology that had being lost by the > greedy fucking > bastards fucking my life , they will > loose all they > have "soon" because it had > being engineered that > way by accumulative bad karma, i have > another lab > they will never reach or be able to > intercept or > destroy and that will decide their fate > ..... they > will be fucked hard ! > > > > > > > > (H) > > > > ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, > <mkjekyll@...> > wrote : > > > > > > Cmon Hector, > Bad taste! > > > The man had a more serious lab than > anyone else > here and his work speaks for itself. > Maybe he has > gained the fortune he desired through > R&D and > now shitting in tall cotton or gone > fishing > reaping the rewards of retirement. > Notwithstanding > is still kind enough to help point us > in the right > directions around here. > "Funny–I > can look back on a life > of > achievement, on > challenges met, > competitors bested, > obstacles > overcome. I’ve > accomplished more > than most men, and > without the use > of my legs. What?What > makes a man, > Mr. > Lebowski?" > > > On > 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > Dar n ! a Scientist inventor > with no lab > is like a breeding bull with > no balls ! > > > > > > > > > ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, > <nwootan@...> > wrote : > > > > > Jacob! You asked me a > question and I > gave you my opinion! > I'm totally > retired at 80 years old > and have no > lab to experiment in! > Your quote; I > heard once a phrase from a > researcher > who said. '' Slow > down boy, we get > paid for llooking for > solutions, not > to find > them!'' That certainly does > not apply to me for I have > shared all > with the folks on this > site. I find > you statement very > interesting: > Technics that use up 10 % > of a magnet > in 24 hours with usual > amount of gas > looks to me extremely > inefficient. > ?????? Care > to share where you > saw the power of a > permanent magnet > being used up! We all > here on this > site share what ever > knowledge we have > on the various subjects > not seeking > any monetary gain in any > way! That is > my approach! I just > contribute to > the dialog when I run > across something > interesting and think it > will assist > you guys! Norm > > > > > On > 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob > Wall wall_jakob@... > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Norman, > > But i actually > asced for > ''most > efficient way'' to > split water known > to you! > > I realize there > are a lot of > different > technigues to do > just that. > > And yes i realize > you could > give me a rather > complex > answer. But > instead i hope for > a > > rather easy and > reproductive > answer since i am > looking > forward to solve > my enerrgy > > problems i just > can not live > with the momentary > (sad and > very stupid energy > situation) > > I am still not > giving up > becouse of a > couple mistakes > and > misunderstandings. > > If i would be a > car dealer and > you would ask me > for a most > efficient car > available on the > market > > i would for sure > not recommend > a Prius, since > there are a lot > of cars with > better fuel > economie > > even without being > a hybrid > and without > additional cost > like > batterys,e-motors and a > bunch added > ECU's > > > > Technics that use > up 10 % of a > magnet in 24 hours > with usual > amount of gas > looks to me > extremely > > inefficient. > > Also very > expensive HHO-Garage > products with > output of 1,6 > ltr/min. > > Come on, 6 rusty > nails and a > old car batery > does this job, > no need to spend > 1600 bucks on > it. > > I honestly > expected solide > advise or a honest > NO way boy, > i just talking > around. > > > > I heard once a > phrase from a > researcher who > said. '' Slow > down boy, we get > paid for > llooking for > > solutions, not to > find them!'' > That shoked me > deeply and even > if i get 150 years > old, i will > not forget it. > > Thats true treason > on mankind > and deciving the > people. I > really hope nobody > on this > forum only care > > > about what he/she > will be > doing tomorrow. > > > > Jakob > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > On Sun, 10/28/18, > Norman > Wootan nwootan@... > [EVGRAY] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: Fwd: > Fwd: Re: > [EVGRAY] > Norm's Magnetic > Battery > > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, > "Bert > Pool" <BertPool512@...>, > "Bob > Paddock" <bob.paddock@...>, > "joel > mcclain" <joel_76670@...>, > "Jon > Gentry" <jongen422@...>, > > "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>, > "Toby > Grotz" <wireless2@...>, > "Phil > Rembold" <prembold@...>, > "Angel > Alvarez" <angel@...>, > "Fredric > Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> > > Received: Sunday, > October 28, > 2018, 9:44 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jacob! That > would be a rather > complex answer > > but here is > your > > starting point! > > https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html > <https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html> > > > After having been > heavily > involved in the > COLD FUSION > > Research > > back in the 70s > and 80s I > quickly settled > o0n the best > > catalyst in > > electrolytic cells > which is > pure nickel. I > still have > > the cell > > used in the > Elemental > Replication > experiments. > > > > > > http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm > <http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm> > > The hidden > > part of this > research is the > use of a nickel > component > > in the > > combustion > chamber. Bosch > developed 90,000V > ignition > > systems to > > enable water > injection in gas > engine which > high > > lighted the > > Graneau HV > decomposition of > water via HVDC > > discharge! > > My magnetic > Battery when run > as an electrolytic > cell > > to produce > > hydrogen does > produce a huge > amount of hydrogen > gas as > > shown by > > the Dr. Ehrenhaft > document. I > would tell you > to > > pursue the > super > > high Tesla > magnetic flux and > nickel electrodes > in an > > electrolytic > > cell. The major > obstacle to > be overcome is the > rapid > > collection > > of ions from > solution by the > 1.3 Tesla flux > across a > > .020" > > mechanical gap > which quickly > takes the cell > into a > > super-conduction > mode which > takes out the > driving DC > > power supply. > > You can flush the > magnetic > gaps with > distilled water > > and the gaps > > will show in the > meg-ohm range > then go to zero > ohms > > after a short > > period of running, > the > gathered ions > totally short > > cell. During > > the brief runs > there is a huge > amount of hydrogen > gas > > produced > > which I burned off > as it was > generated. Much > can be > > said about > > driving the cell > with high > frequencies as the > Myers > > research > > showed. Our > friend up in > Canada at George > Wiseman, > > Eagle Research > > is running well > ahead of the > crowd on the > production > > of H-H-O. > > Just for > giggles! > > > > > > 16 October > > 1996 > > To: Hal > > Fox, Fusion > Facts > > Elemental > > Replication ? > > > > Around > mid > > September > > I put together > an > > electrolysis cell > similar to > the Miles Nickel > Cold > > Fusion Cell > > with the goal > of > > exploring the > possibilities of > making what is > > termed > “Pristine > > Water”. This > water > > which will be used > by > Homeopaths > > will have had all > memory or > information > > removed. This is > accomplished > by > > recombining > monatomic > > hydrogen and > monatomic oxygen > as generated in > a > > properly > > designed cell. > This is > > the ultimate in > purity since > this is > > water with > conditions at the > time of > original > > creation. > “Holly Water”is a > term > > coined by my > dear > > friend and fellow > researcher > Joe Tyls of > > Vancouver, BC. > After several > weeks of > > successful > operation > > producing water > that had all > the earmarks of > a > > true > “pristine > > water” a > fellow > > researcher > suggested using an > alternate > > electrolyte. A > solution was > selected > > that contained > 77 > > colloidal minerals > as found in > plants that are > the > > easiest > > assimilated into > the > > body. With > the > > electrolyte > changed the > > cell was put back > into > operation as > before with a > > nice > > recombination burn > and > > production of the > sought after > “pristine > > water”. > > > > After about > an > > hour of > > operation the > cell > > went absolutely > “nuts” with > the temperature > > rapidly > climbing > > to boiling > point > > and the current > out of sight. > > When the > > cell was opened we > found a > deep red sludge > deposit > > which > > shorted the > cell > > plates. Our > first > > thought was that > the > > electrolytic > action > precipitated out > the colloidal > > minerals > > which caused > the > > deposit found. > The > > electrolyte was > allowed > > to settle out > the > > precipitate. > After > > decanting off, > the clear > electrolyte > > was > > returned to the > > cell for another > run. Again > the cell > operated > > normally for > > about an hour with > a > > normal > recombination burn and > recovery of the > > water being > > consumed by the > cell > > in the splitting > action. > Again > > the cell > > temperature and > current > mirrored the > first > > run. > > Again the cell > contained the > same amount of > > sludge > > residue. This > process > > was repeated ten > (10) times > > with exactly the > same > results. > > All of > > the sludge was > carefully dried > and weighed on > an > > electronic > > scale with a > five > > decimal > > resolution. > > The cell plates > and all > hardware were > > weighed to > > determine any loss > of > > mass that may > contribute to > the mass gain > observed > > in the > > sludge. Five > hundred > > (500) ml of the > original > > electrolyte > solution used in > the cell was > vacuum > > distilled to > > determine the > > exact mass of > colloidal > minerals > > contained. > > When all factors > were > considered we > came > > out with a > > mass gain of 48 > gm > > which cannot be > explained by > > conventional > > electrolysis. > > > > After > talking > > to Dr. > > Robert Bass and > Hal > > Fox I learned of a > patent that > has been filed > on > > the > > transmutation of > elements > > in the cold fusion > cell which > is the process > that > > Dr. John > > Bockris has been > so > > active in. > Both Dr. > > Bass and Hal > Fox > > stated that what I > was > observing is not > the same > > as the > > transmutation > observed > > in the cold fusion > cell since > I have a > overall > > mass gain and > > not a lateral > > movement of > elements in the > periodic table > toward > > lighter > > elements with a > > resulting heat > release. This > > unusual > > cell operation has > caused > quite a reaction > in the > > scientific > > community. At > this > > time I have built > a complete > new cell > > with every > possible factor > which could > possibly > > explain the > > mass gain > > considered and > documented. > The > > ten (10) > > consecutive runs > on the new > cell will be > completed > > soon and a > > report will be > > forthcoming. > What is > > interesting > about > > this phenomenon is > that when > an eleventh run > was > > made with the > > original > > electrolyte > exactly the same > amount of residue > was > > recovered > > as in the > previous > > ten > > runs. > > > > > > Since > > the same > electrolyte is reused > each time with > only > > distilled > > water being > added > > to replace the > volume lost by > the removal of > the > > solids and > > the water > recovered > > by the > recombination burn we > are hard pressed > to > > explain the > > observed > > > phenomenon. The > > electrolyte > appears > > stronger in > mineral > concentration and > shows no > > sign of > > > > depletion. > > > > After > conferring > > with > > Joe Tyls we > arrived at > > the conclusion > that the 77 > colloidal > minerals > > contained in > the > > electrolyte > > provide the atomic > templates > needed for the > > monatomic > hydrogen > > (father of all > > the elements) to > replicate > selected elements > in > > this exotic > > mixture. If > you > > subscribe to the > theories of > the late > > Walter Russell and > his > explanation of the > octave > > based > > periodic table > with > > monatonic hydrogen > being what > he describes as > > hydrons > > (precursor to > hydrogen) > > then it is > possible for the > replication of > > elements > directly > > from energy > input > > alone. This is > how all > > matter was > > created in the > beginning as > described by > > Schappeller in > “The > > Physics of the > > Primary State of > Matter”. I > > will keep > > all informed as to > our > progress and > findings in > > this very > > intriguing > venture. > > > > Norman > > Wootan > > P.O. > > Box 141049 > > Dallas, > > TX 75214 > > (214) > > 360-0865 > > > > > > CC: Gene > Mallove, > > Infinite > > Energy > > CC: Dr. John > > Bockris, Texas > > A/M > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/28/2018 1:01 > AM, > > Jakob Wall > > wall_jakob@... > > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Norman, > > > > > > > > BTW, what is the > most > effective water > split > > device that > > you ever put you > hands on? > > > > As HHO researcher > for dekades > you should be > > able to point > > us directly to the > most > effective > known! > > > > Please be specific > about > reconstruction of > the > > same, since > > we are in public > domain it > will become > public > > knowledge > > and public good. I > assume you > intend nothing > > else,rigth ? > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > > > On Sat, 10/27/18, > Norman > Wootan nwootan@... > > [EVGRAY] > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Fwd: > Fwd: Re: > [EVGRAY] > Norm's > > Magnetic > > Battery [3 > Attachments] > > > > To: "Bert > Pool" <BertPool512@...>, > > "Bob > > Paddock" <bob.paddock@....>, > > "joel > mcclain" > > <joel_76670@...>, > > "Jon > Gentry" > > <jongen422@...>, > > "Lane > Wootan" > > <lanewootan@...>, > > > "Mbking42" > > <mbking42@...>, > > "Toby > Grotz" > > <wireless2@...>, > > "Phil > Rembold" > > <prembold@...>, > > "Angel > Alvarez" > > <angel@...>, > > "Fredric > Fletcher" > > <ffletcher@...>, > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > To understand the > unwinding of > a thread > > leading > > > > to Magnetic > > > > Generating > Hydrogen and this > Magnetic > Battery, > > we have > > > > to dust off > > > > our 9th grade > Chemistry > Books! > > > > http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm > <http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm> > > > > I guess Dr. > > > > Ehrenhaft was the > first to > propose a > Magnetic > > Current. > > > > (Jon > > > > Gentry, Your > liquid metal > vortex helix). > > > > https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/ > <https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/> > > > > Ah! Ha! more on > Magnetic > Currents!!! > > > > https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html > <https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html> > > > > https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w > <https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w> > > > > https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che > <https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che> > > > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential > <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential> > > > > https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron > <https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron> > > > > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis > <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis> > > > > http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm > <http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm> > > > > http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm > <http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm> > > > > Now Jon Gentry you > have your > liquid metal > pump > > so > > > > that you can > > > > make the helix > tube Vortex! > > Ferricpetacarbonyl > or > > > > micro fine neo > > > > powder to provide > the liquid > metal for pump > > > > circuit. > > > > Lots of reading > here! > Please think > > about the > > > > ramifications > of > > > > a Magnetic Current > as proposed > by Dr. > > Ehrenhaft > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Posted by: Jakob Wall <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Reply via web post > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/conversations/messages/109175;_ylc=X3oDMTJyZjVzN3IwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDM0MjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgzNjYzBG1zZ0lkAzEwOTE3NQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1NDE2Mjc4MjM-?act=reply&messageNum=109175> > • Reply to sender > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Fwd%3A%20Fwd%3A%20Re%3A%20%5BEVGRAY%5D%20Norm%27s%20Magnetic%20Battery%20%5B2%20Attachments%5D> > • Reply to group > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Fwd%3A%20Fwd%3A%20Re%3A%20%5BEVGRAY%5D%20Norm%27s%20Magnetic%20Battery%20%5B2%20Attachments%5D> > • Start a New Topic > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJla20zdnYxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDM0MjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgzNjYzBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTU0MTYyNzgyMw--> > • Messages in this topic > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/conversations/topics/109074;_ylc=X3oDMTM4dGswYmc3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDM0MjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgzNjYzBG1zZ0lkAzEwOTE3NQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1NDE2Mjc4MjMEdHBjSWQDMTA5MDc0> > (22) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the automatic photo album with 16 photo(s) > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/photos/photomatic/1340257782;_ylc=X3oDMTE4M3R1OW82BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGNmOQNQSE9UT01BVElDBHNlYwNtZWdhcGhvbmU-> > from this topic. > lpiihnonflfdegmn.png bdafpkagogdidkkg.png lhkdpfhpenemopnf.png > lpiihnonflfdegmn.png lhkdpfhpenemopnf.png > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/photos/photomatic/1340257782;_ylc=X3oDMTE4M3R1OW82BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGNmOQNQSE9UT01BVElDBHNlYwNtZWdhcGhvbmU-> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >
[4/14] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
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Mick
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Hector, How did you feed your bingo motor more carbon, was there automatic feed setup or were you still in experimental stage when it detonated? On 11/8/2018 5:09 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: > > Carbon fouling is a problem , i blew half a wall and a whole generator > set when my bingomotor went bang! -o- motor ... > > cell went dry arced and Kaboommm! equivalent to one pound of tnt > demolition charge ! due to a carbon clogged valve .. > > (H) > > > > ---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote : > > Bingo fuel is a good way to run a motor but the carbon rods you either > have to buy them or make them to make the get any carbon source to > make biochar once made grind up dry and add molasses to make past fill > tube like copper or steel heat to red hot and aply 500 volts till cool > .experimenting is nessary to get the voltage lower and the set up just > right ...found information in a very old patent .but if you persevere > you got it .now the problem is a constant cheap Carbon source ..dryed > grass clippings to old wood pallets .no ash as in gasogen .clean and > you can use them for electrodes or welding rods for cutting steel of a > extream spot light like in concentration camps . > > On Wednesday, November 7, 2018, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... > <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Thanks guys, some of that looks feasible. > > ------------------------------ -------------- > On Wed, 11/7/18, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...> > [EVGRAY] <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 > Attachments] > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Received: Wednesday, November 7, Jakob, > You may also have a look at this as it's a less > complex version > incorporating a couple of Norms findings allegedly > allowing for > enough power to run internal combustion engines from > water and a > carbon arc. The name is funny as it's a pun from > the lexicon of a > pilot one never wants to hear from the cockpit. If > the pilot says > bingofuel to ATC that means he thinks he may have just > enough fuel > to the drop to land the plane so clear me for a runway > and get the > emergency crews there. > > http://bingofuel.online.fr/ bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm > <http://bingofuel.online.fr/bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm> > > > > > On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, > Norman Wootan > nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On > 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman > Wootan wrote: > > > > Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on > here need to > read the Whole Story as to why I no longer > have a > research lab. Jakob, I'm sorry I did > not reveal to you > the BEST in my opinion of methods of > producing hydrogen > gas for I felt it was a little too advanced > and > difficult for you to experiment with. See: > https://patents.google.com/ patent/US7097676B2/en > <https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en> > . There is a very long story behind this > US Patent and > a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a > very > inexpensive method of splitting water has > been the Holy > Grail of cheap energy. In addition to > the research > papers and links that I gave to you, here > are some more > to dwell on. > https://www.researchgate.net/ post/At_what_temperature_ > water_will_decompose_to_ Oxygen_and_Hydrogen > <https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen> > https://www.quora.com/Does- water-break-down-into-oxygen- > and-hydrogen-at-high- temperatures-If-so-then-at- > what-temperature > <https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature> > https://www.quora.com/How- much-water-can-you-split-into- > hydrogen-and-oxygen-using- electrolysis-with-one- > kilowatt-hour-of-electricity > <https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity> > http://www.redrok.com/ hion96a1.htm > <http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm> > https://www.nature.com/ articles/nplants201741 > <https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741> > Please read carefully about the play of > Nickel in this > approach! > > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Water_splitting > <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting> > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction > <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction> > I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, > AR where > they still had the old water gas generator > and gas > storage facility. > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Decarboxylation > <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation> > https://phys.org/news/2018-02- uncovers-mechanism-water- > splitting-catalyst.html > <https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html> > https://www. scientificamerican.com/ > article/new-catalyst-could- split-water-cheaply/ > <https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/> > https://www.technologyreview. com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to- > make-hydrogen-from-water/ > <https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/> > "SUPER STEAM - A Tesla > conference in Colorado > surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). > Leonard > Dorsett and friends from Texas share > strikingly similar > views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have > technology which > produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F > without a > boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over > traditional > boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out > gasoline fires > and treat many waste problems. Of major > importance to > Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help > to produce > heat and Aquastone at considerable > savings." > > > > For further information on Aquarian Agency > Ltd. they can > be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, > <https://maps.google.com/?q=38+Weir+Rd,+Wimbledon,+%0D%0A+London+SW19&entry=gmail&source=g> > London SW19 SUG, > England or on Internet at <aquarian > ocign.ape.org <http://ocign.ape.org>>. SUPER STEAM > TECHNOLOGY PART 2 > > > > Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX > 76092) > demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at > the 1994 > International Tesla Symposium. SST is a > system for > producing steam at any temperature or > pressure > independently and instantly without the need > for a > conventional boiler. It can instantly > produce steam of > any temperature from hot water at 180F to > super heated > steam at over 3000F, while pressures can > vary from 1PSI > to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up > to over > 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, > methane, > petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen > or just > about anything else that bums and converts > virtually > 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: > The person > in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA > fame) > > > > This all sounds great, but how does it work? > The basis > of the unit is a specially designed open > throat chamber > with controlled air, water and fuel > interaction and a > high voltage ignition resulting in a direct > fire process > establishing thermal zones. This creates a > stoichiometric condition resulting in a full > spectrum of > steam product. Now comes the interesting > part At the > increased temperatures of steam, > disassociation occurs. > (Could this be a clue to running cars on > water??) The > hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an > exponential > increase of energy resulting in super heated > steam. A > similar superheat process was addressed by > Tesla in the > October 12, 1911 publication of the > "Engineering News > Record". > > > > Applications of the SST system include a > much more > economical way of producing electricity as > no > conventional boiler is needed. It will also > be an ideal > low cost method for heating and cooling > homes and > businesses. Small portable units can be > developed for > home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect > and ant > removal, without the dangers of > insecticides. The system > can also be used for low cost purification > of polluted > water or sewerage and can also convert salt > water into > drinking water both quickly and > inexpensively. Other > uses are in fire fighting applications, ice > and snow > removal from roads, etc. and sterilization > and nurturing > of soil for agriculture where contamination > has > occurred. > I had designed a method of making hydrogen > from carbon > & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic > Bombardment > method of high frequency inside of spherical > inclosure > like this experiments with the carbon button > lamp > globes. After working with Leonard > Dorsett and his > Super Steam Project, I chose to use the > Water Shift > Process instead. A side note is needed > here! The Super > Steam Process was a result of Professor > Brown studying > the method the German's used for torpedo > propulsion from > WWI. Acetylene Gas and sea water produced > an exothermic > reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built > several > reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area > to break > (down hole) the parafin deposits to release > crude oil. > The Chemical equation for the reaction in > the US > Patent: https://patents.google.com/ patent/US7097676B2/en > <https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en> > > > > > > (6C > + 12 H2O = 6CO2 + 24H) > > > > Hydrogen > Reactor Development > > Original > concept design was a high > voltage, high frequency resonant device that > utilized > carbon water reaction with the feedstock > being in the > form of graphite rod stock. > This unit was > designed for vehicle application and had too > many > limitations to be used for mass hydrogen > generation. > This type reactor is very effective > at hydrogen > production since it targets the water vapor > molecule at > MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, > allowing the > carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms > leaving the > hydrogen free. This device was a closed > system that used > a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that > enabled the > hydrogen to be feed to an internal > combustion engine. > > To > allow for a sustained high mass flow of > hydrogen gas > output, reactor design took on a radical > change. > By incorporating the > Ranque/Hilsch, Counter > Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and > continuous high > mass flow and gas separation were > achieved in one > stage of operation. > Feedstock for > this type reactor could be any > carbon-based material > that could be put into a powder > form. Highest > carbon content of the feedstock provides > for the > most efficient hydrogen production with > the least > undesirable output > material. > > Super > high temperature operating regime was > chosen to be > above 2500 C for the purpose of > producing atomic > hydrogen in the process. > The original > reactor operated at temperatures that > easily > gasified basic carbon into a plasma > state > (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the > production > of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed > stock > ratios. > > > > > I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and > paid for my > 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. > lab the do the > Prototype machining and Proof of Concept > testing for > GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million > investment and > they got the rights to the process and I got > the > beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I > was a self > employed Contractor in Dallas working with > HVAC, > Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so > had to commute > 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for > my time! > Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 > acres took all > my time and when I suffered a neck fracture > in 2012, had > to retire. Liquidated the entire facility > and sold it > off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana > where I now > do a lot of relaxing and fishing! > Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel > so now I > will just contribute to the dialog inorder > to assist any > research you may be doing within my area of > experitise! BTW! I have been out to > pasture for a > long time now, so no BULL offense! As > Hector knows, "It > fits"! Lol > > > > > > > > Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol > Hat when you > come visit from PR! Lol > > > > > > > > > > On > 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...> > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > By the way ... i can hit mega millions > or the power > ball . i never will not have a lab i > can work in, > that is worst than death , you have no > idea of the > technology that had being lost by the > greedy fucking > bastards fucking my life , they will > loose all they > have "soon" because it had > being engineered that > way by accumulative bad karma, i have > another lab > they will never reach or be able to > intercept or > destroy and that will decide their fate > ..... they > will be fucked hard ! > > > > > > > > (H) > > > > ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, > <mkjekyll@...> > wrote : > > > > > > Cmon Hector, > Bad taste! > > > The man had a more serious lab than > anyone else > here and his work speaks for itself. > Maybe he has > gained the fortune he desired through > R&D and > now shitting in tall cotton or gone > fishing > reaping the rewards of retirement. > Notwithstanding > is still kind enough to help point us > in the right > directions around here. > "Funny–I > can look back on a life > of > achievement, on > challenges met, > competitors bested, > obstacles > overcome. I’ve > accomplished more > than most men, and > without the use > of my legs. What?What > makes a man, > Mr. > Lebowski?" > > > On > 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > Dar n ! a Scientist inventor > with no lab > is like a breeding bull with > no balls ! > > > > > > > > > ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, > <nwootan@...> > wrote : > > > > > Jacob! You asked me a > question and I > gave you my opinion! > I'm totally > retired at 80 years old > and have no > lab to experiment in! > Your quote; I > heard once a phrase from a > researcher > who said. '' Slow > down boy, we get > paid for llooking for > solutions, not > to find > them!'' That certainly does > not apply to me for I have > shared all > with the folks on this > site. I find > you statement very > interesting: > Technics that use up 10 % > of a magnet > in 24 hours with usual > amount of gas > looks to me extremely > inefficient. > ?????? Care > to share where you > saw the power of a > permanent magnet > being used up! We all > here on this > site share what ever > knowledge we have > on the various subjects > not seeking > any monetary gain in any > way! That is > my approach! I just > contribute to > the dialog when I run > across something > interesting and think it > will assist > you guys! Norm > > > > > On > 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob > Wall wall_jakob@... > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Norman, > > But i actually > asced for > ''most > efficient way'' to > split water known > to you! > > I realize there > are a lot of > different > technigues to do > just that. > > And yes i realize > you could > give me a rather > complex > answer. But > instead i hope for > a > > rather easy and > reproductive > answer since i am > looking > forward to solve > my enerrgy > > problems i just > can not live > with the momentary > (sad and > very stupid energy > situation) > > I am still not > giving up > becouse of a > couple mistakes > and > misunderstandings. > > If i would be a > car dealer and > you would ask me > for a most > efficient car > available on the > market > > i would for sure > not recommend > a Prius, since > there are a lot > of cars with > better fuel > economie > > even without being > a hybrid > and without > additional cost > like > batterys,e-motors and a > bunch added > ECU's > > > > Technics that use > up 10 % of a > magnet in 24 hours > with usual > amount of gas > looks to me > extremely > > inefficient. > > Also very > expensive HHO-Garage > products with > output of 1,6 > ltr/min. > > Come on, 6 rusty > nails and a > old car batery > does this job, > no need to spend > 1600 bucks on > it. > > I honestly > expected solide > advise or a honest > NO way boy, > i just talking > around. > > > > I heard once a > phrase from a > researcher who > said. '' Slow > down boy, we get > paid for > llooking for > > solutions, not to > find them!'' > That shoked me > deeply and even > if i get 150 years > old, i will > not forget it. > > Thats true treason > on mankind > and deciving the > people. I > really hope nobody > on this > forum only care > > > about what he/she > will be > doing tomorrow. > > > > Jakob > > > > ------------------------------ -------------- > > On Sun, 10/28/18, > Norman > Wootan nwootan@... > [EVGRAY] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: Fwd: > Fwd: Re: > [EVGRAY] > Norm's Magnetic > Battery > > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, > "Bert > Pool" <BertPool512@...>, > "Bob > Paddock" <bob.paddock@...>, > "joel > mcclain" <joel_76670@...>, > "Jon > Gentry" <jongen422@...>, > > "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>, > "Toby > Grotz" <wireless2@...>, > "Phil > Rembold" <prembold@...>, > "Angel > Alvarez" <angel@...>, > "Fredric > Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> > > Received: Sunday, > October 28, > 2018, 9:44 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jacob! That > would be a rather > complex answer > > but here is > your > > starting point! > > https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct- thermomagnetic-splitting-of- > water-.html > <https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html> > > > After having been > heavily > involved in the > COLD FUSION > > Research > > back in the 70s > and 80s I > quickly settled > o0n the best > > catalyst in > > electrolytic cells > which is > pure nickel. I > still have > > the cell > > used in the > Elemental > Replication > experiments. > > > > > > http://www.rexresearch.com/ gunnrman/gunnrman.htm > <http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm> > > The hidden > > part of this > research is the > use of a nickel > component > > in the > > combustion > chamber. Bosch > developed 90,000V > ignition > > systems to > > enable water > injection in gas > engine which > high > > lighted the > > Graneau HV > decomposition of > water via HVDC > > discharge! > > My magnetic > Battery when run > as an electrolytic > cell > > to produce > > hydrogen does > produce a huge > amount of hydrogen > gas as > > shown by > > the Dr. Ehrenhaft > document. I > would tell you > to > > pursue the > super > > high Tesla > magnetic flux and > nickel electrodes > in an > > electrolytic > > cell. The major > obstacle to > be overcome is the > rapid > > collection > > of ions from > solution by the > 1.3 Tesla flux > across a > > .020" > > mechanical gap > which quickly > takes the cell > into a > > super-conduction > mode which > takes out the > driving DC > > power supply. > > You can flush the > magnetic > gaps with > distilled water > > and the gaps > > will show in the > meg-ohm range > then go to zero > ohms > > after a short > > period of running, > the > gathered ions > totally short > > cell. During > > the brief runs > there is a huge > amount of hydrogen > gas > > produced > > which I burned off > as it was > generated. Much > can be > > said about > > driving the cell > with high > frequencies as the > Myers > > research > > showed. Our > friend up in > Canada at George > Wiseman, > > Eagle Research > > is running well > ahead of the > crowd on the > production > > of H-H-O. > > Just for > giggles! > > > > > > 16 October > > 1996 > > To: Hal > > Fox, Fusion > Facts > > Elemental > > Replication ? > > > > Around > mid > > September > > I put together > an > > electrolysis cell > similar to > the Miles Nickel > Cold > > Fusion Cell > > with the goal > of > > exploring the > possibilities of > making what is > > termed > “Pristine > > Water”. This > water > > which will be used > by > Homeopaths > > will have had all > memory or > information > > removed. This is > accomplished > by > > recombining > monatomic > > hydrogen and > monatomic oxygen > as generated in > a > > properly > > designed cell. > This is > > the ultimate in > purity since > this is > > water with > conditions at the > time of > original > > creation. > “Holly Water”is a > term > > coined by my > dear > > friend and fellow > researcher > Joe Tyls of > > Vancouver, BC. > After several > weeks of > > successful > operation > > producing water > that had all > the earmarks of > a > > true > “pristine > > water” a > fellow > > researcher > suggested using an > alternate > > electrolyte. A > solution was > selected > > that contained > 77 > > colloidal minerals > as found in > plants that are > the > > easiest > > assimilated into > the > > body. With > the > > electrolyte > changed the > > cell was put back > into > operation as > before with a > > nice > > recombination burn > and > > production of the > sought after > “pristine > > water”. > > > > After about > an > > hour of > > operation the > cell > > went absolutely > “nuts” with > the temperature > > rapidly > climbing > > to boiling > point > > and the current > out of sight. > > When the > > cell was opened we > found a > deep red sludge > deposit > > which > > shorted the > cell > > plates. Our > first > > thought was that > the > > electrolytic > action > precipitated out > the colloidal > > minerals > > which caused > the > > deposit found. > The > > electrolyte was > allowed > > to settle out > the > > precipitate. > After > > decanting off, > the clear > electrolyte > > was > > returned to the > > cell for another > run. Again > the cell > operated > > normally for > > about an hour with > a > > normal > recombination burn and > recovery of the > > water being > > consumed by the > cell > > in the splitting > action. > Again > > the cell > > temperature and > current > mirrored the > first > > run. > > Again the cell > contained the > same amount of > > sludge > > residue. This > process > > was repeated ten > (10) times > > with exactly the > same > results. > > All of > > the sludge was > carefully dried > and weighed on > an > > electronic > > scale with a > five > > decimal > > resolution. > > The cell plates > and all > hardware were > > weighed to > > determine any loss > of > > mass that may > contribute to > the mass gain > observed > > in the > > sludge. Five > hundred > > (500) ml of the > original > > electrolyte > solution used in > the cell was > vacuum > > distilled to > > determine the > > exact mass of > colloidal > minerals > > contained. > > When all factors > were > considered we > came > > out with a > > mass gain of 48 > gm > > which cannot be > explained by > > conventional > > electrolysis. > > > > After > talking > > to Dr. > > Robert Bass and > Hal > > Fox I learned of a > patent that > has been filed > on > > the > > transmutation of > elements > > in the cold fusion > cell which > is the process > that > > Dr. John > > Bockris has been > so > > active in. > Both Dr. > > Bass and Hal > Fox > > stated that what I > was > observing is not > the same > > as the > > transmutation > observed > > in the cold fusion > cell since > I have a > overall > > mass gain and > > not a lateral > > movement of > elements in the > periodic table > toward > > lighter > > elements with a > > resulting heat > release. This > > unusual > > cell operation has > caused > quite a reaction > in the > > scientific > > community. At > this > > time I have built > a complete > new cell > > with every > possible factor > which could > possibly > > explain the > > mass gain > > considered and > documented. > The > > ten (10) > > consecutive runs > on the new > cell will be > completed > > soon and a > > report will be > > forthcoming. > What is > > interesting > about > > this phenomenon is > that when > an eleventh run > was > > made with the > > original > > electrolyte > exactly the same > amount of residue > was > > recovered > > as in the > previous > > ten > > runs. > > > > > > Since > > the same > electrolyte is reused > each time with > only > > distilled > > water being > added > > to replace the > volume lost by > the removal of > the > > solids and > > the water > recovered > > by the > recombination burn we > are hard pressed > to > > explain the > > observed > > > phenomenon. The > > electrolyte > appears > > stronger in > mineral > concentration and > shows no > > sign of > > > > depletion. > > > > After > conferring > > with > > Joe Tyls we > arrived at > > the conclusion > that the 77 > colloidal > minerals > > contained in > the > > electrolyte > > provide the atomic > templates > needed for the > > monatomic > hydrogen > > (father of all > > the elements) to > replicate > selected elements > in > > this exotic > > mixture. If > you > > subscribe to the > theories of > the late > > Walter Russell and > his > explanation of the > octave > > based > > periodic table > with > > monatonic hydrogen > being what > he describes as > > hydrons > > (precursor to > hydrogen) > > then it is > possible for the > replication of > > elements > directly > > from energy > input > > alone. This is > how all > > matter was > > created in the > beginning as > described by > > Schappeller in > “The > > Physics of the > > Primary State of > Matter”. I > > will keep > > all informed as to > our > progress and > findings in > > this very > > intriguing > venture. > > > > Norman > > Wootan > > P.O. > > Box 141049 > > Dallas, > > TX 75214 > > (214) > > 360-0865 > > > > > > CC: Gene > Mallove, > > Infinite > > Energy > > CC: Dr. John > > Bockris, Texas > > A/M > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/28/2018 1:01 > AM, > > Jakob Wall > > wall_jakob@... > > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Norman, > > > > > > > > BTW, what is the > most > effective water > split > > device that > > you ever put you > hands on? > > > > As HHO researcher > for dekades > you should be > > able to point > > us directly to the > most > effective > known! > > > > Please be specific > about > reconstruction of > the > > same, since > > we are in public > domain it > will become > public > > knowledge > > and public good. I > assume you > intend nothing > > else,rigth ? > > > > > > ------------------------------ -------------- > > > > On Sat, 10/27/18, > Norman > Wootan nwootan@... > > [EVGRAY] > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Fwd: > Fwd: Re: > [EVGRAY] > Norm's > > Magnetic > > Battery [3 > Attachments] > > > > To: "Bert > Pool" <BertPool512@...>, > > "Bob > > Paddock" <bob.paddock@....>, > > "joel > mcclain" > > <joel_76670@...>, > > "Jon > Gentry" > > <jongen422@...>, > > "Lane > Wootan" > > <lanewootan@...>, > > > "Mbking42" > > <mbking42@...>, > > "Toby > Grotz" > > <wireless2@...>, > > "Phil > Rembold" > > <prembold@...>, > > "Angel > Alvarez" > > <angel@...>, > > "Fredric > Fletcher" > > <ffletcher@...>, > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > To understand the > unwinding of > a thread > > leading > > > > to Magnetic > > > > Generating > Hydrogen and this > Magnetic > Battery, > > we have > > > > to dust off > > > > our 9th grade > Chemistry > Books! > > > > http://www.rexresearch.com/ ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm > <http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm> > > > > I guess Dr. > > > > Ehrenhaft was the > first to > propose a > Magnetic > > Current. > > > > (Jon > > > > Gentry, Your > liquid metal > vortex helix). > > > > > > (Message over 64 KB, truncated) > >
[5/14] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
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Warren, That is an interesting circuit and it seems to take advantage of a semiconductors avalanche mode. I have seen some very interesting power gains from this function of a semiconductor and Ole proposed using the mode in order to make something over unity that is not fussy about the tuning. Some of the devices that use a rotational field use harmonics so as to get rotational speeds beyond the frequency of the devices. Like the push on the swing set but rather than a swing a vortex with multiple points of energy input. Most transistors have a limit of a few mHz. I do not know what the speed of the vortex has to be to enter the relativistic area in which the time stream becomes bent enough but figure it is way up there. On 11/8/2018 5:43 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > Norman > > For my part, in my thinking, Rosemary Ainslie, a physicist, at a > university in South Africa, has a nice little circuit she has made to > prove her theory. > It has been replicated by several experimenters, as there are plenty > of youtube videos, a few, full of nasty muck raking bullshit, for some > reason. > I have spoken with her on the phone, and in emails over the years. > She is the real deal, a modest, and straight forward scientist, giving > her work to the World. > It is a little circuit that makes 17 X the input electricity as > resistance heat. > I have purchased the transistors she has been using, a somewhat > obscure, almost obsolete product. > I got mine from Texas. > If I am able to get it going, a little later as the ow flies, here in > Canada, I want to feed the product into the electric hot water heater, > that at present, is only used as a header tank for the heat pump > system.. It uses 220 volts, and has resistance elements. What the hell, > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> > > On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 6:29 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Jakob Wall, maybe the Old Tried and Tested over time wood gas > technology would be best for you! Very simple and I built one to > run a 5KW generator and it worked . This technology has been > around since civilization first saw an underground coal seam > burning without atmospheric oxygen. The burning coal converts > ground water into carbon monoxide and hydrogen and is self > sustaining for many years. Start by reading the history and > applications. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator > > http://www.edina.eu/gas-generators/applications/non-conventional-gas/syngas/ > > See: attachment! > > During the development of my Hydrogen Vortex Reactor, I questioned > the academic answer as to temperature that water vapor would break > down into hydrogen and oxygen. After talking to a lot of very > experienced fire fighters, the consensus was that if you spray > water into a fire that is visibly WHITE HOT, the water will > exacerbate the situation because you have entered the region of > threshold dissociation of water vapor into hydrogen. Think about > how an ordinary magnesium flare can burn underwater. Simple fact > is that the magnesium burns so hot that the flame is self > sustaining from the water. Happy building! Jakob. BTW! I build a > wood gas generator from a heavy duty clamp top type 55 gal steel > drum lined with fire brick and used leaves straw and wood chips as > fuel feed stock. A water ash scrubber stage will give you clean > syn-gas to run your generator. > > On 11/7/2018 5:57 PM, James Glinski [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> >> Bingo fuel is a good way to run a motor but the carbon rods you >> either have to buy them or make them to make the get any carbon >> source to make biochar once made grind up dry and add molasses to >> make past fill tube like copper or steel heat to red hot and aply >> 500 volts till cool .experimenting is nessary to get the voltage >> lower and the set up just right ...found information in a very >> old patent .but if you persevere you got it .now the problem is a >> constant cheap Carbon source ..dryed grass clippings to old wood >> pallets .no ash as in gasogen .clean and you can use them for >> electrodes or welding rods for cutting steel of a extream spot >> light like in concentration camps . >> >> >> On Wednesday, November 7, 2018, Jakob Wall [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Thanks guys, some of that looks feasible. >> >> ------------------------------ -------------- >> On Wed, 11/7/18, Mick [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery >> [2 Attachments] >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Received: Wednesday, November 7, Jakob, >> You may also have a look at this as it's a less >> complex version >> incorporating a couple of Norms findings allegedly >> allowing for >> enough power to run internal combustion engines from >> water and a >> carbon arc. The name is funny as it's a pun from >> the lexicon of a >> pilot one never wants to hear from the cockpit. If >> the pilot says >> bingofuel to ATC that means he thinks he may have just >> enough fuel >> to the drop to land the plane so clear me for a runway >> and get the >> emergency crews there. >> >> http://bingofuel.online.fr/ bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm >> <http://bingofuel.online.fr/bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm> >> >> >> >> >> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, >> Norman Wootan >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On >> 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman >> Wootan wrote: >> >> >> >> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on >> here need to >> read the Whole Story as to why I no longer >> have a >> research lab. Jakob, I'm sorry I did >> not reveal to you >> the BEST in my opinion of methods of >> producing hydrogen >> gas for I felt it was a little too advanced >> and >> difficult for you to experiment with. See: >> https://patents.google.com/ patent/US7097676B2/en >> <https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en> >> . There is a very long story behind this >> US Patent and >> a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a >> very >> inexpensive method of splitting water has >> been the Holy >> Grail of cheap energy. In addition to >> the research >> papers and links that I gave to you, here >> are some more >> to dwell on. >> https://www.researchgate.net/ post/At_what_temperature_ >> water_will_decompose_to_ Oxygen_and_Hydrogen >> <https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen> >> https://www.quora.com/Does- water-break-down-into-oxygen- >> and-hydrogen-at-high- temperatures-If-so-then-at- >> what-temperature >> <https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature> >> https://www.quora.com/How- much-water-can-you-split-into- >> hydrogen-and-oxygen-using- electrolysis-with-one- >> kilowatt-hour-of-electricity >> <https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity> >> http://www.redrok.com/ hion96a1.htm >> <http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm> >> https://www.nature.com/ articles/nplants201741 >> <https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741> >> Please read carefully about the play of >> Nickel in this >> approach! >> >> >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Water_splitting >> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting> >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction >> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction> >> I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, >> AR where >> they still had the old water gas generator >> and gas >> storage facility. >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Decarboxylation >> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation> >> https://phys.org/news/2018-02- uncovers-mechanism-water- >> splitting-catalyst.html >> <https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html> >> https://www. scientificamerican.com/ >> article/new-catalyst-could- split-water-cheaply/ >> <https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/> >> https://www.technologyreview. com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to- >> make-hydrogen-from-water/ >> <https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/> >> "SUPER STEAM - A Tesla >> conference in Colorado >> surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). >> Leonard >> Dorsett and friends from Texas share >> strikingly similar >> views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have >> technology which >> produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F >> without a >> boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over >> traditional >> boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out >> gasoline fires >> and treat many waste problems. Of major >> importance to >> Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help >> to produce >> heat and Aquastone at considerable >> savings." >> >> >> >> For further information on Aquarian Agency >> Ltd. they can >> be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=38+Weir+Rd,+Wimbledon,+%0D%0A+London+SW19&entry=gmail&source=g> >> London SW19 SUG, >> England or on Internet at <aquarian >> ocign.ape.org <http://ocign.ape.org>>. SUPER STEAM >> TECHNOLOGY PART 2 >> >> >> >> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX >> 76092) >> demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at >> the 1994 >> International Tesla Symposium. SST is a >> system for >> producing steam at any temperature or >> pressure >> independently and instantly without the need >> for a >> conventional boiler. It can instantly >> produce steam of >> any temperature from hot water at 180F to >> super heated >> steam at over 3000F, while pressures can >> vary from 1PSI >> to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up >> to over >> 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, >> methane, >> petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen >> or just >> about anything else that bums and converts >> virtually >> 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: >> The person >> in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA >> fame) >> >> >> >> This all sounds great, but how does it work? >> The basis >> of the unit is a specially designed open >> throat chamber >> with controlled air, water and fuel >> interaction and a >> high voltage ignition resulting in a direct >> fire process >> establishing thermal zones. This creates a >> stoichiometric condition resulting in a full >> spectrum of >> steam product. Now comes the interesting >> part At the >> increased temperatures of steam, >> disassociation occurs. >> (Could this be a clue to running cars on >> water??) The >> hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an >> exponential >> increase of energy resulting in super heated >> steam. A >> similar superheat process was addressed by >> Tesla in the >> October 12, 1911 publication of the >> "Engineering News >> Record". >> >> >> >> Applications of the SST system include a >> much more >> economical way of producing electricity as >> no >> conventional boiler is needed. It will also >> be an ideal >> low cost method for heating and cooling >> homes and >> businesses. Small portable units can be >> developed for >> home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect >> and ant >> removal, without the dangers of >> insecticides. The system >> can also be used for low cost purification >> of polluted >> water or sewerage and can also convert salt >> water into >> drinking water both quickly and >> inexpensively. Other >> uses are in fire fighting applications, ice >> and snow >> removal from roads, etc. and sterilization >> and nurturing >> of soil for agriculture where contamination >> has >> occurred. >> I had designed a method of making hydrogen >> from carbon >> & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic >> Bombardment >> method of high frequency inside of spherical >> inclosure >> like this experiments with the carbon button >> lamp >> globes. After working with Leonard >> Dorsett and his >> Super Steam Project, I chose to use the >> Water Shift >> Process instead. A side note is needed >> here! The Super >> Steam Process was a result of Professor >> Brown studying >> the method the German's used for torpedo >> propulsion from >> WWI. Acetylene Gas and sea water produced >> an exothermic >> reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built >> several >> reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area >> to break >> (down hole) the parafin deposits to release >> crude oil. >> The Chemical equation for the reaction in >> the US >> Patent: https://patents.google.com/ patent/US7097676B2/en >> <https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en> >> >> >> >> >> >> (6C >> + 12 H2O = 6CO2 + 24H) >> >> >> >> Hydrogen >> Reactor Development >> >> Original >> concept design was a high >> voltage, high frequency resonant device that >> utilized >> carbon water reaction with the feedstock >> being in the >> form of graphite rod stock. >> This unit was >> designed for vehicle application and had too >> many >> limitations to be used for mass hydrogen >> generation. >> This type reactor is very effective >> at hydrogen >> production since it targets the water vapor >> molecule at >> MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, >> allowing the >> carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms >> leaving the >> hydrogen free. This device was a closed >> system that used >> a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that >> enabled the >> hydrogen to be feed to an internal >> combustion engine. >> >> To >> allow for a sustained high mass flow of >> hydrogen gas >> output, reactor design took on a radical >> change. >> By incorporating the >> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter >> Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and >> continuous high >> mass flow and gas separation were >> achieved in one >> stage of operation. >> Feedstock for >> this type reactor could be any >> carbon-based material >> that could be put into a powder >> form. Highest >> carbon content of the feedstock provides >> for the >> most efficient hydrogen production with >> the least >> undesirable output >> material. >> >> Super >> high temperature operating regime was >> chosen to be >> above 2500 C for the purpose of >> producing atomic >> hydrogen in the process. >> The original >> reactor operated at temperatures that >> easily >> gasified basic carbon into a plasma >> state >> (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the >> production >> of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed >> stock >> ratios. >> >> >> >> >> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and >> paid for my >> 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. >> lab the do the >> Prototype machining and Proof of Concept >> testing for >> GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million >> investment and >> they got the rights to the process and I got >> the >> beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I >> was a self >> employed Contractor in Dallas working with >> HVAC, >> Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so >> had to commute >> 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for >> my time! >> Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 >> acres took all >> my time and when I suffered a neck fracture >> in 2012, had >> to retire. Liquidated the entire facility >> and sold it >> off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana >> where I now >> do a lot of relaxing and fishing! >> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel >> so now I >> will just contribute to the dialog inorder >> to assist any >> research you may be doing within my area of >> experitise! BTW! I have been out to >> pasture for a >> long time now, so no BULL offense! As >> Hector knows, "It >> fits"! Lol >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol >> Hat when you >> come visit from PR! Lol >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On >> 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> By the way ... i can hit mega millions >> or the power >> ball . i never will not have a lab i >> can work in, >> that is worst than death , you have no >> idea of the >> technology that had being lost by the >> greedy fucking >> bastards fucking my life , they will >> loose all they >> have "soon" because it had >> being engineered that >> way by accumulative bad karma, i have >> another lab >> they will never reach or be able to >> intercept or >> destroy and that will decide their fate >> ..... they >> will be fucked hard ! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> (H) >> >> >> >> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, >> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> >> wrote : >> >> >> >> >> >> Cmon Hector, >> Bad taste! >> >> >> The man had a more serious lab than >> anyone else >> here and his work speaks for itself. >> Maybe he has >> gained the fortune he desired through >> R&D and >> now shitting in tall cotton or gone >> fishing >> reaping the rewards of retirement. >> Notwithstanding >> is still kind enough to help point us >> in the right >> directions around here. >> "Funny–I >> can look back on a life >> of >> achievement, on >> challenges met, >> competitors bested, >> obstacles >> overcome. I’ve >> accomplished more >> than most men, and >> without the use >> of my legs. What?What >> makes a man, >> Mr. >> Lebowski?" >> >> >> On >> 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... >> [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dar n ! a Scientist inventor >> with no lab >> is like a breeding bull with >> no balls ! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, >> <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> >> wrote : >> >> >> >> >> Jacob! You asked me a >> question and I >> gave you my opinion! >> I'm totally >> retired at 80 years old >> and have no >> lab to experiment in! >> Your quote; I >> heard once a phrase from a >> researcher >> who said. '' Slow >> down boy, we get >> paid for llooking for >> solutions, not >> to find >> them!'' That certainly does >> not apply to me for I have >> shared all >> with the folks on this >> site. I find >> you statement very >> interesting: >> Technics that use up 10 % >> of a magnet >> in 24 hours with usual >> amount of gas >> looks to me extremely >> inefficient. >> ?????? Care >> to share where you >> saw the power of a >> permanent magnet >> being used up! We all >> here on this >> site share what ever >> knowledge we have >> on the various subjects >> not seeking >> any monetary gain in any >> way! That is >> my approach! I just >> contribute to >> the dialog when I run >> across something >> interesting and think it >> will assist >> you guys! Norm >> >> >> >> >> On >> 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob >> Wall wall_jakob@... >> [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks Norman, >> >> But i actually >> asced for >> ''most >> efficient way'' to >> split water known >> to you! >> >> I realize there >> are a lot of >> different >> technigues to do >> just that. >> >> And yes i realize >> you could >> give me a rather >> complex >> answer. But >> instead i hope for >> a >> >> rather easy and >> reproductive >> answer since i am >> looking >> forward to solve >> my enerrgy >> >> problems i just >> can not live >> with the momentary >> (sad and >> very stupid energy >> situation) >> >> I am still not >> giving up >> becouse of a >> couple mistakes >> and >> misunderstandings. >> >> If i would be a >> car dealer and >> you would ask me >> for a most >> efficient car >> available on the >> market >> >> i would for sure >> not recommend >> a Prius, since >> there are a lot >> of cars with >> better fuel >> economie >> >> even without being >> a hybrid >> and without >> additional cost >> like >> batterys,e-motors and a >> bunch added >> ECU's >> >> >> >> Technics that use >> up 10 % of a >> magnet in 24 hours >> with usual >> amount of gas >> looks to me >> extremely >> >> inefficient. >> >> Also very >> expensive HHO-Garage >> products with >> output of 1,6 >> ltr/min. >> >> Come on, 6 rusty >> nails and a >> old car batery >> does this job, >> no need to spend >> 1600 bucks on >> it. >> >> I honestly >> expected solide >> advise or a honest >> NO way boy, >> i just talking >> around. >> >> >> >> I heard once a >> phrase from a >> researcher who >> said. '' Slow >> down boy, we get >> paid for >> llooking for >> >> solutions, not to >> find them!'' >> That shoked me >> deeply and even >> if i get 150 years >> old, i will >> not forget it. >> >> Thats true treason >> on mankind >> and deciving the >> people. I >> really hope nobody >> on this >> forum only care >> >> >> about what he/she >> will be >> doing tomorrow. >> >> >> >> Jakob >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ -------------- >> >> On Sun, 10/28/18, >> Norman >> Wootan nwootan@... >> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: Fwd: >> Fwd: Re: >> [EVGRAY] >> Norm's Magnetic >> Battery >> >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, >> "Bert >> Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, >> "Bob >> Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>, >> "joel >> mcclain" <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, >> "Jon >> Gentry" <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>, >> >> "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>, >> "Toby >> Grotz" <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>, >> "Phil >> Rembold" <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, >> "Angel >> Alvarez" <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, >> "Fredric >> Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...> >> >> Received: Sunday, >> October 28, >> 2018, 9:44 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jacob! That >> would be a rather >> complex answer >> >> but here is >> your >> >> starting point! >> >> https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct- thermomagnetic-splitting-of- >> water-.html >> <https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html> >> >> After having been >> heavily >> involved in the >> COLD FUSION >> >> Research >> >> back in the 70s >> and 80s I >> quickly settled >> o0n the best >> >> catalyst in >> >> electrolytic cells >> which is >> pure nickel. I >> still have >> >> the cell >> >> used in the >> Elemental >> Replication >> experiments. >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.rexresearch.com/ gunnrman/gunnrman.htm >> <http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm> >> >> The hidden >> >> part of this >> research is the >> use of a nickel >> component >> >> in the >> >> combustion >> chamber. Bosch >> developed 90,000V >> ignition >> >> systems to >> >> enable water >> injection in gas >> engine which >> high >> >> lighted the >> >> Graneau HV >> decomposition of >> water via HVDC >> >> discharge! >> >> My magnetic >> Battery when run >> as an electrolytic >> cell >> >> to produce >> >> hydrogen does >> produce a huge >> amount of hydrogen >> gas as >> >> shown by >> >> the Dr. Ehrenhaft >> document. I >> would tell you >> to >> >> pursue the >> super >> >> high Tesla >> magnetic flux and >> nickel electrodes >> in an >> >> electrolytic >> >> cell. The major >> obstacle to >> be overcome is the >> rapid >> >> collection >> >> of ions from >> solution by the >> 1.3 Tesla flux >> across a >> >> .020" >> >> mechanical gap >> which quickly >> takes the cell >> into a >> >> super-conduction >> mode which >> takes out the >> driving DC >> >> power supply. >> >> You can flush the >> magnetic >> gaps with >> distilled water >> >> and the gaps >> >> will show in the >> meg-ohm range >> then go to zero >> ohms >> >> after a short >> >> period of running, >> the >> gathered ions >> totally short >> >> cell. During >> >> the brief runs >> there is a huge >> amount of hydrogen >> gas >> >> produced >> >> which I burned off >> as it was >> generated. Much >> can be >> >> said about >> >> driving the cell >> with high >> frequencies as the >> Myers >> >> research >> >> showed. Our >> friend up in >> Canada at George >> Wiseman, >> >> Eagle Research >> >> is running well >> ahead of the >> crowd on the >> production >> >> of H-H-O. >> >> Just for >> giggles! >> >> >> >> >> >> 16 October >> >> 1996 >> >> To: Hal >> >> Fox, Fusion >> Facts >> >> Elemental >> >> Replication ? >> >> >> >> Around >> mid >> >> September >> >> I put together >> an >> >> electrolysis cell >> similar to >> the Miles Nickel >> Cold >> >> Fusion Cell >> >> with the goal >> of >> >> exploring the >> possibilities of >> making what is >> >> termed >> “Pristine >> >> Water”. This >> water >> >> which will be used >> by >> Homeopaths >> >> will have had all >> memory or >> information >> >> removed. This is >> accomplished >> by >> >> recombining >> monatomic >> >> hydrogen and >> monatomic oxygen >> as generated in >> a >> >> properly >> >> designed cell. >> This is >> >> the ultimate in >> purity since >> this is >> >> water with >> conditions at the >> time of >> original >> >> creation. >> “Holly Water”is a >> term >> >> coined by my >> dear >> >> friend and fellow >> researcher >> Joe Tyls of >> >> Vancouver, BC. >> After several >> weeks of >> >> successful >> operation >> >> producing water >> that had all >> the earmarks of >> a >> >> true >> “pristine >> >> water” a >> fellow >> >> researcher >> suggested using an >> alternate >> >> electrolyte. A >> solution was >> selected >> >> that contained >> 77 >> >> colloidal minerals >> as found in >> plants that are >> the >> >> easiest >> >> assimilated into >> the >> >> body. With >> the >> >> electrolyte >> changed the >> >> cell was put back >> into >> operation as >> before with a >> >> nice >> >> recombination burn >> and >> >> production of the >> sought after >> “pristine >> >> water”. >> >> >> >> >> >> After about >> an >> >> hour of >> >> operation the >> cell >> >> went absolutely >> “nuts” with >> the temperature >> >> rapidly >> climbing >> >> to boiling >> point >> >> and the current >> out of sight. >> >> When the >> >> cell was opened we >> found a >> deep red sludge >> deposit >> >> which >> >> shorted the >> cell >> >> plates. Our >> first >> >> thought was that >> the >> >> electrolytic >> action >> precipitated out >> the colloidal >> >> minerals >> >> which caused >> the >> >> deposit found. >> The >> >> electrolyte was >> allowed >> >> to settle out >> the >> >> precipitate. >> After >> >> decanting off, >> the clear >> electrolyte >> >> was >> >> returned to the >> >> cell for another >> run. Again >> the cell >> operated >> >> normally for >> >> about an hour with >> a >> >> normal >> recombination burn and >> recovery of the >> >> water being >> >> consumed by the >> cell >> >> in the splitting >> action. >> Again >> >> the cell >> >> temperature and >> current >> mirrored the >> first >> >> run. >> >> Again the cell >> contained the >> same amount of >> >> sludge >> >> residue. This >> process >> >> was repeated ten >> (10) times >> >> with exactly the >> same >> results. >> >> All of >> >> the sludge was >> carefully dried >> and weighed on >> an >> >> electronic >> >> scale with a >> five >> >> decimal >> >> resolution. >> >> The cell plates >> and all >> hardware were >> >> weighed to >> >> determine any loss >> of >> >> mass that may >> contribute to >> the mass gain >> observed >> >> in the >> >> sludge. Five >> hundred >> >> (500) ml of the >> original >> >> electrolyte >> solution used in >> the cell was >> vacuum >> >> distilled to >> >> determine the >> >> exact mass of >> colloidal >> minerals >> >> contained. >> >> When all factors >> were >> considered we >> came >> >> out with a >> >> mass gain of 48 >> gm >> >> which cannot be >> explained by >> >> conventional >> >> electrolysis. >> >> >> >> After >> talking >> >> to Dr. >> >> Robert Bass and >> Hal >> >> Fox I learned of a >> patent that >> has been filed >> on >> >> the >> >> transmutation of >> elements >> >> in the cold fusion >> cell which >> is the process >> that >> >> Dr. John >> >> Bockris has been >> so >> >> active in. >> Both Dr. >> >> Bass and Hal >> Fox >> >> stated that what I >> was >> observing is not >> the same >> >> as the >> >> transmutation >> observed >> >> in the cold fusion >> cell since >> I have a >> overall >> >> mass gain and >> >> not a lateral >> >> movement of >> elements in the >> periodic table >> toward >> >> lighter >> >> elements with a >> >> resulting heat >> release. This >> >> unusual >> >> cell operation has >> caused >> quite a reaction >> in the >> >> scientific >> >> community. At >> this >> >> time I have built >> a complete >> new cell >> >> with every >> possible factor >> which could >> possibly >> >> explain the >> >> mass gain >> >> considered and >> documented. >> The >> >> ten (10) >> >> consecutive runs >> on the new >> cell will be >> completed >> >> soon and a >> >> report will be >> >> forthcoming. >> What is >> >> interesting >> about >> >> this phenomenon is >> that when >> an eleventh run >> was >> >> made with the >> >> original >> >> electrolyte >> exactly the same >> amount of residue >> was >> >> recovered >> >> as in the >> previous >> >> ten >> >> runs. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Since >> >> the same >> electrolyte is reused >> each time with >> only >> >> distilled >> >> water being >> added >> >> to replace the >> volume lost by >> the removal of >> the >> >> solids and >> >> the water >> recovered >> >> by the >> recombination burn we >> are hard pressed >> to >> >> explain the >> >> observed >> >> >> phenomenon. The >> >> electrolyte >> appears >> >> stronger in >> mineral >> concentration and >> shows no >> >> sign of >> >> >> >> depletion. >> >> >> >> After >> conferring >> >> with >> >> Joe Tyls we >> arrived at >> >> the conclusion >> that the 77 >> colloidal >> minerals >> >> contained in >> the >> >> electrolyte >> >> provide the atomic >> templates >> needed for the >> >> monatomic >> hydrogen >> >> (father of all >> >> the elements) to >> replicate >> selected elements >> in >> >> this exotic >> >> mixture. If >> you >> >> subscribe to the >> theories of >> the late >> >> Walter Russell and >> his >> explanation of the >> octave >> >> based >> >> periodic table >> with >> >> monatonic hydrogen >> being what >> he describes as >> >> hydrons >> >> (precursor to >> hydrogen) >> >> then it is >> possible for the >> replication of >> >> elements >> directly >> >> from energy >> input >> >> alone. This is >> how all >> >> matter was >> >> created in the >> beginning as >> described by >> >> Schappeller in >> “The >> >> Physics of the >> >> Primary State of >> Matter”. I >> >> will keep >> >> all informed as to >> our >> progress and >> findings in >> >> this very >> >> intriguing >> venture. >> >> >> >> Norman >> >> Wootan >> >> P.O. >> >> Box 141049 >> >> Dallas, >> >> TX 75214 >> >> (214) >> >> 360-0865 >> >> >> >> >> >> CC: Gene >> Mallove, >> >> Infinite >> >> Energy >> >> CC: Dr. John >> >> Bockris, Texas >> >> A/M >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/28/2018 1:01 >> AM, >> >> Jakob Wall >> >> wall_jakob@... >> >> [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks Norman, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> BTW, what is the >> most >> effective water >> split >> >> device that >> >> you ever put you >> hands on? >> >> >> >> As HHO researcher >> for dekades >> you should be >> >> able to point >> >> us directly to the >> most >> effective >> known! >> >> >> >> Please be specific >> about >> reconstruction of >> the >> >> same, since >> >> we are in public >> domain it >> will become >> public >> >> knowledge >> >> and public good. I >> assume you >> intend nothing >> >> else,rigth ? >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ -------------- >> >> >> >> On Sat, 10/27/18, >> Norman >> Wootan nwootan@... >> >> [EVGRAY] >> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: Fwd: >> Fwd: Re: >> [EVGRAY] >> Norm's >> >> Magnetic >> >> Battery [3 >> Attachments] >> >> >> >> To: "Bert >> Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, >> >> "Bob >> >> Paddock" <bob.paddock@....> <mailto:bob.paddock@....>, >> >> "joel >> mcclain" >> >> <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, >> >> "Jon >> Gentry" >> >> <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>, >> >> "Lane >> Wootan" >> >> <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>, >> >> >> "Mbking42" >> >> <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>, >> >> "Toby >> Grotz" >> >> <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>, >> >> "Phil >> Rembold" >> >> <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, >> >> "Angel >> Alvarez" >> >> <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, >> >> "Fredric >> Fletcher" >> >> <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>, >> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> >> >> To understand the >> unwinding of >> a thread >> >> leading >> >> >> >> to Magnetic >> >> >> >> Generating >> Hydrogen and this >> Magnetic >> Battery, >> >> we have >> >> >> >> to dust off >> >> >> >> our 9th grade >> Chemistry >> Books! >> >> >> >> http://www.rexresearch.com/ ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm >> <http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm> >> >> >> >> I guess Dr. >> >> >> >> Ehrenhaft was the >> first to >> propose a >> Magnetic >> >> Current. >> >> >> >> (Jon >> >> >> >> Gentry, Your >> liquid metal >> vortex helix). >> >> >> >> https://revolution-green.com/ can-electrolysis-powered- >> magnets/ >> <https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/> >> >> >> >> Ah! Ha! more on >> Magnetic >> Currents!!! >> >> >> >> https://sciencing.com/ magnetic-properties-hydrogen- >> 7648446.html >> <https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html> >> >> >> >> https://www.labmanager.com/ white-papers-and-application- >> notes/2010/05/resistivity- conductivity-measurement-of- >> purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w >> <https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w> >> >> >> >> https://www.askiitians.com/ forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/ >> 19074/electro-che >> <https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che> >> >> >> >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Overpotential >> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential> >> >> >> >> https://www.quora.com/Why-is- oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic- >> although-it-does-not-contain- any-unpaired-electron >> <https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron> >> >> >> >> https://www.researchgate.net/ publication/251580541_The_ >> effect_of_magnetic_force_on_ hydrogen_production_ >> efficiency_in_water_ electrolysis >> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis> >> >> >> >> http://www.physicscentral.com/ experiment/physicsathome/ >> electricwhirlpool.cfm >> <http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm> >> >> >> >> http://www.linux-host.org/ energy/bmagpump.htm >> <http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm> >> >> >> >> Now Jon Gentry you >> have your >> liquid metal >> pump >> >> so >> >> >> >> that you can >> >> >> >> make the helix >> tube Vortex! >> >> Ferricpetacarbonyl >> or >> >> >> >> micro fine neo >> >> >> >> powder to provide >> the liquid >> metal for pump >> >> >> >> circuit. >> >> >> >> Lots of reading >> here! >> Please think >> >> about the >> >> >> >> ramifications >> of >> >> >> >> a Magnetic Current >> as proposed >> by Dr. >> >> Ehrenhaft >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Posted by: Jakob Wall <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Reply via web post >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/conversations/messages/109175;_ylc=X3oDMTJyZjVzN3IwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDM0MjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgzNjYzBG1zZ0lkAzEwOTE3NQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1NDE2Mjc4MjM-?act=reply&messageNum=109175> >> • Reply to sender >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Fwd%3A%20Fwd%3A%20Re%3A%20%5BEVGRAY%5D%20Norm%27s%20Magnetic%20Battery%20%5B2%20Attachments%5D> >> • Reply to group >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Fwd%3A%20Fwd%3A%20Re%3A%20%5BEVGRAY%5D%20Norm%27s%20Magnetic%20Battery%20%5B2%20Attachments%5D> >> • Start a New Topic >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJla20zdnYxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDM0MjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgzNjYzBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTU0MTYyNzgyMw--> >> • Messages in this topic >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/conversations/topics/109074;_ylc=X3oDMTM4dGswYmc3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDM0MjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgzNjYzBG1zZ0lkAzEwOTE3NQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1NDE2Mjc4MjMEdHBjSWQDMTA5MDc0> >> (22) >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Check out the automatic photo album with 16 photo(s) >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/photos/photomatic/1340257782;_ylc=X3oDMTE4M3R1OW82BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGNmOQNQSE9UT01BVElDBHNlYwNtZWdhcGhvbmU-> >> from this topic. >> lpiihnonflfdegmn.png bdafpkagogdidkkg.png >> lhkdpfhpenemopnf.png lpiihnonflfdegmn.png >> lhkdpfhpenemopnf.png >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/photos/photomatic/1340257782;_ylc=X3oDMTE4M3R1OW82BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGNmOQNQSE9UT01BVElDBHNlYwNtZWdhcGhvbmU-> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >
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Carbon fouling is a problem , i blew half a wall and a whole generator set when my bingomotor went bang! -o- motor ... cell went dry arced and Kaboommm! equivalent to one pound of tnt demolition charge ! due to a carbon clogged valve .. (H) ---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote : Bingo fuel is a good way to run a motor but the carbon rods you either have to buy them or make them to make the get any carbon source to make biochar once made grind up dry and add molasses to make past fill tube like copper or steel heat to red hot and aply 500 volts till cool .experimenting is nessary to get the voltage lower and the set up just right ...found information in a very old patent .but if you persevere you got it .now the problem is a constant cheap Carbon source ..dryed grass clippings to old wood pallets .no ash as in gasogen .clean and you can use them for electrodes or welding rods for cutting steel of a extream spot light like in concentration camps . On Wednesday, November 7, 2018, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... mailto:wall_jakob@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote: Thanks guys, some of that looks feasible. ------------------------------ -------------- On Wed, 11/7/18, Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments] To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected] Received: Wednesday, November 7, Jakob, You may also have a look at this as it's a less complex version incorporating a couple of Norms findings allegedly allowing for enough power to run internal combustion engines from water and a carbon arc. The name is funny as it's a pun from the lexicon of a pilot one never wants to hear from the cockpit. If the pilot says bingofuel to ATC that means he thinks he may have just enough fuel to the drop to land the plane so clear me for a runway and get the emergency crews there. http://bingofuel.online.fr/ bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm http://bingofuel.online.fr/bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote: On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote: Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab. Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with. See: https://patents.google.com/ patent/US7097676B2/en https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en . There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of cheap energy. In addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on. https://www.researchgate.net/ post/At_what_temperature_ water_will_decompose_to_ Oxygen_and_Hydrogen https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen https://www.quora.com/Does- water-break-down-into-oxygen- and-hydrogen-at-high- temperatures-If-so-then-at- what-temperature https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature https://www.quora.com/How- much-water-can-you-split-into- hydrogen-and-oxygen-using- electrolysis-with-one- kilowatt-hour-of-electricity https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity http://www.redrok.com/ hion96a1.htm http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm https://www.nature.com/ articles/nplants201741 https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741 Please read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Water_splitting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Decarboxylation https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation https://phys.org/news/2018-02- uncovers-mechanism-water- splitting-catalyst.html https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html https://www. scientificamerican.com/ article/new-catalyst-could- split-water-cheaply/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/ https://www.technologyreview. com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to- make-hydrogen-from-water/ https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/ "SUPER STEAM - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings." For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, https://maps.google.com/?q=38+Weir+Rd,+Wimbledon,+%0D%0A+London+SW19&entry=gmail&source=g London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org http://ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2 Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame) This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record". Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred. I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp globes. After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead. A side note is needed here! The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI. Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil. The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: https://patents.google.com/ patent/US7097676B2/en https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en (6C + 12 H2O = 6CO2 + 24H) Hydrogen Reactor Development Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock. This unit was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation. This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine. To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, reactor design took on a radical change. By incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one stage of operation. Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form. Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material. Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process. The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios. I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing! Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be doing within my area of experitise! BTW! I have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense! As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit from PR! Lol On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, arkresearch@... mailto:arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote: By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball . i never will not have a lab i can work in, that is worst than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard ! (H) ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote : Cmon Hector, Bad taste! The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself. Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here. "Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?" On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote: Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls ! ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote : Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion! I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in! Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!'' That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site. I find you statement very interesting: Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient. ?????? Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up! We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach! I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys! Norm On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... [EVGRAY] wrote: Thanks Norman, But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you! I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that. And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation) I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings. If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient. Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min. Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it. I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around. I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it. Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care about what he/she will be doing tomorrow. Jakob ------------------------------ -------------- On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected], "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM Jacob! That would be a rather complex answer but here is your starting point! https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct- thermomagnetic-splitting-of- water-.html https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION Research back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best catalyst in electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have the cell used in the Elemental Replication experiments. http://www.rexresearch.com/ gunnrman/gunnrman.htm http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm The hidden part of this research is the use of a nickel component in the combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition systems to enable water injection in gas engine which high lighted the Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC discharge! My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell to produce hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as shown by the Dr. Ehrenhaft document. I would tell you to pursue the super high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an electrolytic cell. The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid collection of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a .020" mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC power supply. You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water and the gaps will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms after a short period of running, the gathered ions totally short cell. During the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas produced which I burned off as it was generated. Much can be said about driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers research showed. Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman, Eagle Research is running well ahead of the crowd on the production of H-H-O. Just for giggles! 16 October 1996 To: Hal Fox, Fusion Facts Elemental Replication ? Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the possibilities of making what is termed “Pristine Water”. This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information removed. This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell. This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at the time of original creation. “Holly Water”is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC. After several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a true “pristine water” a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate electrolyte. A solution was selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest assimilated into the body. With the electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after “pristine water”. After about an hour of operation the cell went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature rapidly climbing to boiling point and the current out of sight. When the cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit which shorted the cell plates. Our first thought was that the electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal minerals which caused the deposit found. The electrolyte was allowed to settle out the precipitate. After decanting off, the clear electrolyte was returned to the cell for another run. Again the cell operated normally for about an hour with a normal recombination burn and recovery of the water being consumed by the cell in the splitting action. Again the cell temperature and current mirrored the first run. Again the cell contained the same amount of sludge residue. This process was repeated ten (10) times with exactly the same results. All of the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an electronic scale with a five decimal resolution. The cell plates and all hardware were weighed to determine any loss of mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed in the sludge. Five hundred (500) ml of the original electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum distilled to determine the exact mass of colloidal minerals contained. When all factors were considered we came out with a mass gain of 48 gm which cannot be explained by conventional electrolysis. After talking to Dr. Robert Bass and Hal Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on the transmutation of elements in the cold fusion cell which is the process that Dr. John Bockris has been so active in. Both Dr. Bass and Hal Fox stated that what I was observing is not the same as the transmutation observed in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall mass gain and not a lateral movement of elements in the periodic table toward lighter elements with a resulting heat release. This unusual cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the scientific community. At this time I have built a complete new cell with every possible factor which could possibly explain the mass gain considered and documented. The ten (10) consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed soon and a report will be forthcoming. What is interesting about this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was made with the original electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was recovered as in the previous ten runs. Since the same electrolyte is reused each time with only distilled water being added to replace the volume lost by the removal of the solids and the water recovered by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to explain the observed phenomenon. The electrolyte appears stronger in mineral concentration and shows no sign of depletion. After conferring with Joe Tyls we arrived at the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals contained in the electrolyte provide the atomic templates needed for the monatomic hydrogen (father of all the elements) to replicate selected elements in this exotic mixture. If you subscribe to the theories of the late Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave based periodic table with monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as hydrons (precursor to hydrogen) then it is possible for the replication of elements directly from energy input alone. This is how all matter was created in the beginning as described by Schappeller in “The Physics of the Primary State of Matter”. I will keep all informed as to our progress and findings in this very intriguing venture. Norman Wootan P.O. Box 141049 Dallas, TX 75214 (214) 360-0865 CC: Gene Mallove, Infinite Energy CC: Dr. John Bockris, Texas A/M On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... [EVGRAY] wrote: Thanks Norman, BTW, what is the most effective water split device that you ever put you hands on? As HHO researcher for dekades you should be able to point us directly to the most effective known! Please be specific about reconstruction of the same, since we are in public domain it will become public knowledge and public good. I assume you intend nothing else,rigth ? ------------------------------ -------------- On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [3 Attachments] To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@....>, "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>, "Lane Wootan" <lanewootan@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...>, [email protected] mailto:[email protected] To understand the unwinding of a thread leading to Magnetic Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery, we have to dust off our 9th grade Chemistry Books! http://www.rexresearch.com/ ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm I guess Dr. Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic Current. (Jon Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix). (Message over 64 KB, truncated)
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NormanFor my part, in my thinking, Rosemary Ainslie, a physicist, at a university in South Africa, has a nice little circuit she has made to prove her theory.It has been replicated by several experimenters, as there are plenty of youtube videos, a few, full of nasty muck raking bullshit, for some reason.I have spoken with her on the phone, and in emails over the years.She is the real deal, a modest, and straight forward scientist, giving her work to the World.It is a little circuit that makes 17 X the input electricity as resistance heat.I have purchased the transistors she has been using, a somewhat obscure, almost obsolete product.I got mine from Texas.If I am able to get it going, a little later as the ow flies, here in Canada, I want to feed the product into the electric hot water heater, that at present, is only used as a header tank for the heat pump system. It uses 220 volts, and has resistance elements. What the hell, Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 6:29 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: Jakob Wall, maybe the Old Tried and Tested over time wood gas technology would be best for you! Very simple and I built one to run a 5KW generator and it worked . This technology has been around since civilization first saw an underground coal seam burning without atmospheric oxygen. The burning coal converts ground water into carbon monoxide and hydrogen and is self sustaining for many years. Start by reading the history and applications. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator http://www.edina.eu/gas-generators/applications/non-conventional-gas/syngas/ See: attachment! During the development of my Hydrogen Vortex Reactor, I questioned the academic answer as to temperature that water vapor would break down into hydrogen and oxygen. After talking to a lot of very experienced fire fighters, the consensus was that if you spray water into a fire that is visibly WHITE HOT, the water will exacerbate the situation because you have entered the region of threshold dissociation of water vapor into hydrogen. Think about how an ordinary magnesium flare can burn underwater. Simple fact is that the magnesium burns so hot that the flame is self sustaining from the water. Happy building! Jakob. BTW! I build a wood gas generator from a heavy duty clamp top type 55 gal steel drum lined with fire brick and used leaves straw and wood chips as fuel feed stock. A water ash scrubber stage will give you clean syn-gas to run your generator. On 11/7/2018 5:57 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: Bingo fuel is a good way to run a motor but the carbon rods you either have to buy them or make them to make the get any carbon source to make biochar once made grind up dry and add molasses to make past fill tube like copper or steel heat to red hot and aply 500 volts till cool .experimenting is nessary to get the voltage lower and the set up just right ...found information in a very old patent .but if you persevere you got it .now the problem is a constant cheap Carbon source ..dryed grass clippings to old wood pallets .no ash as in gasogen .clean and you can use them for electrodes or welding rods for cutting steel of a extream spot light like in concentration camps . On Wednesday, November 7, 2018, Jakob Wall [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks guys, some of that looks feasible. ------------------------------ -------------- On Wed, 11/7/18, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments] To: [email protected] Received: Wednesday, November 7, Jakob, You may also have a look at this as it's a less complex version incorporating a couple of Norms findings allegedly allowing for enough power to run internal combustion engines from water and a carbon arc. The name is funny as it's a pun from the lexicon of a pilot one never wants to hear from the cockpit. If the pilot says bingofuel to ATC that means he thinks he may have just enough fuel to the drop to land the plane so clear me for a runway and get the emergency crews there. http://bingofuel.online.fr/ bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote: Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab. Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with. See: https://patents.google.com/ patent/US7097676B2/en . There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of cheap energy. In addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on. https://www.researchgate.net/ post/At_what_temperature_ water_will_decompose_to_ Oxygen_and_Hydrogen https://www.quora.com/Does- water-break-down-into-oxygen- and-hydrogen-at-high- temperatures-If-so-then-at- what-temperature https://www.quora.com/How- much-water-can-you-split-into- hydrogen-and-oxygen-using- electrolysis-with-one- kilowatt-hour-of-electricity http://www.redrok.com/ hion96a1.htm https://www.nature.com/ articles/nplants201741 Please read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Water_splitting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Decarboxylation https://phys.org/news/2018-02- uncovers-mechanism-water- splitting-catalyst.html https://www. scientificamerican.com/ article/new-catalyst-could- split-water-cheaply/ https://www.technologyreview. com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to- make-hydrogen-from-water/ "SUPER STEAM - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings." For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2 Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame) This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record". Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred. I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp globes. After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead. A side note is needed here! The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI. Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil. The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: https://patents.google.com/ patent/US7097676B2/en (6C + 12 H2O = 6CO2 + 24H) Hydrogen Reactor Development Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock. This unit was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation. This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine. To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, reactor design took on a radical change. By incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one stage of operation. Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form. Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material. Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process. The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios. I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing! Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be doing within my area of experitise! BTW! I have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense! As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit from PR! Lol On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball . i never will not have a lab i can work in, that is worst than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard ! (H) ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote : Cmon Hector, Bad taste! The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself. Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here. "Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?" On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote: Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls ! ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote : Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion! I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in! Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!'' That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site. I find you statement very interesting: Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient. ?????? Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up! We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach! I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys! Norm On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... [EVGRAY] wrote: Thanks Norman, But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you! I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that. And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation) I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings. If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient. Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min. Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it. I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around. I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it. Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care about what he/she will be doing tomorrow. Jakob ------------------------------ -------------- On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery To: [email protected], "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM Jacob! That would be a rather complex answer but here is your starting point! https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct- thermomagnetic-splitting-of- water-.html After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION Research back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best catalyst in electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have the cell used in the Elemental Replication experiments. http://www.rexresearch.com/ gunnrman/gunnrman.htm The hidden part of this research is the use of a nickel component in the combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition systems to enable water injection in gas engine which high lighted the Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC discharge! My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell to produce hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as shown by the Dr. Ehrenhaft document. I would tell you to pursue the super high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an electrolytic cell. The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid collection of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a .020" mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC power supply. You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water and the gaps will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms after a short period of running, the gathered ions totally short cell. During the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas produced which I burned off as it was generated. Much can be said about driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers research showed. Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman, Eagle Research is running well ahead of the crowd on the production of H-H-O. Just for giggles! 16 October 1996 To: Hal Fox, Fusion Facts Elemental Replication ? Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the possibilities of making what is termed “Pristine Water”. This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information removed. This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell. This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at the time of original creation. “Holly Water”is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC. After several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a true “pristine water” a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate electrolyte. A solution was selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest assimilated into the body. With the electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after “pristine water”. After about an hour of operation the cell went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature rapidly climbing to boiling point and the current out of sight. When the cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit which shorted the cell plates. Our first thought was that the electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal minerals which caused the deposit found. The electrolyte was allowed to settle out the precipitate. After decanting off, the clear electrolyte was returned to the cell for another run. Again the cell operated normally for about an hour with a normal recombination burn and recovery of the water being consumed by the cell in the splitting action. Again the cell temperature and current mirrored the first run. Again the cell contained the same amount of sludge residue. This process was repeated ten (10) times with exactly the same results. All of the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an electronic scale with a five decimal resolution. The cell plates and all hardware were weighed to determine any loss of mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed in the sludge. Five hundred (500) ml of the original electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum distilled to determine the exact mass of colloidal minerals contained. When all factors were considered we came out with a mass gain of 48 gm which cannot be explained by conventional electrolysis. After talking to Dr. Robert Bass and Hal Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on the transmutation of elements in the cold fusion cell which is the process that Dr. John Bockris has been so active in. Both Dr. Bass and Hal Fox stated that what I was observing is not the same as the transmutation observed in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall mass gain and not a lateral movement of elements in the periodic table toward lighter elements with a resulting heat release. This unusual cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the scientific community. At this time I have built a complete new cell with every possible factor which could possibly explain the mass gain considered and documented. The ten (10) consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed soon and a report will be forthcoming. What is interesting about this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was made with the original electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was recovered as in the previous ten runs. Since the same electrolyte is reused each time with only distilled water being added to replace the volume lost by the removal of the solids and the water recovered by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to explain the observed phenomenon. The electrolyte appears stronger in mineral concentration and shows no sign of depletion. After conferring with Joe Tyls we arrived at the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals contained in the electrolyte provide the atomic templates needed for the monatomic hydrogen (father of all the elements) to replicate selected elements in this exotic mixture. If you subscribe to the theories of the late Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave based periodic table with monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as hydrons (precursor to hydrogen) then it is possible for the replication of elements directly from energy input alone. This is how all matter was created in the beginning as described by Schappeller in “The Physics of the Primary State of Matter”. I will keep all informed as to our progress and findings in this very intriguing venture. Norman Wootan P.O. Box 141049 Dallas, TX 75214 (214) 360-0865 CC: Gene Mallove, Infinite Energy CC: Dr. John Bockris, Texas A/M On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... [EVGRAY] wrote: Thanks Norman, BTW, what is the most effective water split device that you ever put you hands on? As HHO researcher for dekades you should be able to point us directly to the most effective known! Please be specific about reconstruction of the same, since we are in public domain it will become public knowledge and public good. I assume you intend nothing else,rigth ? ------------------------------ -------------- On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [3 Attachments] To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@....>, "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>, "Lane Wootan" <lanewootan@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...>, [email protected] To understand the unwinding of a thread leading to Magnetic Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery, we have to dust off our 9th grade Chemistry Books! http://www.rexresearch.com/ ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm I guess Dr. Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic Current. (Jon Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix). https://revolution-green.com/ can-electrolysis-powered- magnets/ Ah! Ha! more on Magnetic Currents!!! https://sciencing.com/ magnetic-properties-hydrogen- 7648446.html https://www.labmanager.com/ white-papers-and-application- notes/2010/05/resistivity- conductivity-measurement-of- purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w https://www.askiitians.com/ forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/ 19074/electro-che https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Overpotential https://www.quora.com/Why-is- oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic- although-it-does-not-contain- any-unpaired-electron https://www.researchgate.net/ publication/251580541_The_ effect_of_magnetic_force_on_ hydrogen_production_ efficiency_in_water_ electrolysis http://www.physicscentral.com/ experiment/physicsathome/ electricwhirlpool.cfm http://www.linux-host.org/ energy/bmagpump.htm Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump so that you can make the helix tube Vortex! Ferricpetacarbonyl or micro fine neo powder to provide the liquid metal for pump circuit. Lots of reading here! 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H Mick Hector can correct me but I remember him using steel wool as the blow back arrestor/filter in his bingo went bango HHO experiment and it clogged up over short time period and gave nowhere for the gas to exit and blew up from one nasty hydrogen fart Kone
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The wood gas generators were abandoned due to the ash rafting up the engines there were a million of them in europe after ww2 .and a carbon problem is fixed with a filter .Hector did you have two walls and two generators you said it was a HHO generator that took out your wall before ?.your place is pretty Breezy now 😂 On Thursday, November 8, 2018, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] < [email protected]> wrote: > > > Jakob Wall, maybe the Old Tried and Tested over time wood gas technology > would be best for you! Very simple and I built one to run a 5KW generator > and it worked . This technology has been around since civilization first > saw an underground coal seam burning without atmospheric oxygen. The > burning coal converts ground water into carbon monoxide and hydrogen and is > self sustaining for many years. Start by reading the history and > applications. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator > > http://www.edina.eu/gas-generators/applications/non- > conventional-gas/syngas/ > > See: attachment! > > During the development of my Hydrogen Vortex Reactor, I questioned the > academic answer as to temperature that water vapor would break down into > hydrogen and oxygen. After talking to a lot of very experienced fire > fighters, the consensus was that if you spray water into a fire that is > visibly WHITE HOT, the water will exacerbate the situation because you have > entered the region of threshold dissociation of water vapor into hydrogen. > Think about how an ordinary magnesium flare can burn underwater. Simple > fact is that the magnesium burns so hot that the flame is self sustaining > from the water. Happy building! Jakob. BTW! I build a wood gas generator > from a heavy duty clamp top type 55 gal steel drum lined with fire brick > and used leaves straw and wood chips as fuel feed stock. A water ash > scrubber stage will give you clean syn-gas to run your generator. > On 11/7/2018 5:57 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > Bingo fuel is a good way to run a motor but the carbon rods you either > have to buy them or make them to make the get any carbon source to make > biochar once made grind up dry and add molasses to make past fill tube like > copper or steel heat to red hot and aply 500 volts till cool .experimenting > is nessary to get the voltage lower and the set up just right ...found > information in a very old patent .but if you persevere you got it .now the > problem is a constant cheap Carbon source ..dryed grass clippings to old > wood pallets .no ash as in gasogen .clean and you can use them for > electrodes or welding rods for cutting steel of a extream spot light like > in concentration camps . > > On Wednesday, November 7, 2018, Jakob Wall [email protected] [EVGRAY] < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > Thanks guys, some of that looks feasible. > > -------------------------------------------- > On Wed, 11/7/18, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments] > To: [email protected] > Received: Wednesday, November 7, Jakob, > You may also have a look at this as it's a less > complex version > incorporating a couple of Norms findings allegedly > allowing for > enough power to run internal combustion engines from > water and a > carbon arc. The name is funny as it's a pun from > the lexicon of a > pilot one never wants to hear from the cockpit. If > the pilot says > bingofuel to ATC that means he thinks he may have just > enough fuel > to the drop to land the plane so clear me for a runway > and get the > emergency crews there. > > http://bingofuel.online.fr/bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm > > > > > On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, > Norman Wootan > [email protected] > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On > 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman > Wootan wrote: > > > > Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on > here need to > read the Whole Story as to why I no longer > have a > research lab. Jakob, I'm sorry I did > not reveal to you > the BEST in my opinion of methods of > producing hydrogen > gas for I felt it was a little too advanced > and > difficult for you to experiment with. See: > https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en > . There is a very long story behind this > US Patent and > a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a > very > inexpensive method of splitting water has > been the Holy > Grail of cheap energy. In addition to > the research > papers and links that I gave to you, here > are some more > to dwell on. > https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_ > water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen > https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen- > and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature > https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into- > hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one- > kilowatt-hour-of-electricity > http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm > https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741 > Please read carefully about the play of > Nickel in this > approach! > > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction > I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, > AR where > they still had the old water gas generator > and gas > storage facility. > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation > https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water- > splitting-catalyst.html > https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could- > split-water-cheaply/ > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to- > make-hydrogen-from-water/ > "SUPER STEAM - A Tesla > conference in Colorado > surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). > Leonard > Dorsett and friends from Texas share > strikingly similar > views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have > technology which > produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F > without a > boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over > traditional > boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out > gasoline fires > and treat many waste problems. Of major > importance to > Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help > to produce > heat and Aquastone at considerable > savings." > > > > For further information on Aquarian Agency > Ltd. they can > be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, > <https://maps.google.com/?q=38+Weir+Rd,+Wimbledon,+%0D%0A+London+SW19&entry=gmail&source=g> > London SW19 SUG, > England or on Internet at <aquarian > ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM > TECHNOLOGY PART 2 > > > > Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX > 76092) > demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at > the 1994 > International Tesla Symposium. SST is a > system for > producing steam at any temperature or > pressure > independently and instantly without the need > for a > conventional boiler. It can instantly > produce steam of > any temperature from hot water at 180F to > super heated > steam at over 3000F, while pressures can > vary from 1PSI > to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up > to over > 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, > methane, > petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen > or just > about anything else that bums and converts > virtually > 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: > The person > in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA > fame) > > > > This all sounds great, but how does it work? > The basis > of the unit is a specially designed open > throat chamber > with controlled air, water and fuel > interaction and a > high voltage ignition resulting in a direct > fire process > establishing thermal zones. This creates a > stoichiometric condition resulting in a full > spectrum of > steam product. Now comes the interesting > part At the > increased temperatures of steam, > disassociation occurs. > (Could this be a clue to running cars on > water??) The > hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an > exponential > increase of energy resulting in super heated > steam. A > similar superheat process was addressed by > Tesla in the > October 12, 1911 publication of the > "Engineering News > Record". > > > > Applications of the SST system include a > much more > economical way of producing electricity as > no > conventional boiler is needed. It will also > be an ideal > low cost method for heating and cooling > homes and > businesses. Small portable units can be > developed for > home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect > and ant > removal, without the dangers of > insecticides. The system > can also be used for low cost purification > of polluted > water or sewerage and can also convert salt > water into > drinking water both quickly and > inexpensively. Other > uses are in fire fighting applications, ice > and snow > removal from roads, etc. and sterilization > and nurturing > of soil for agriculture where contamination > has > occurred. > I had designed a method of making hydrogen > from carbon > & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic > Bombardment > method of high frequency inside of spherical > inclosure > like this experiments with the carbon button > lamp > globes. After working with Leonard > Dorsett and his > Super Steam Project, I chose to use the > Water Shift > Process instead. A side note is needed > here! The Super > Steam Process was a result of Professor > Brown studying > the method the German's used for torpedo > propulsion from > WWI. Acetylene Gas and sea water produced > an exothermic > reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built > several > reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area > to break > (down hole) the parafin deposits to release > crude oil. > The Chemical equation for the reaction in > the US > Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en > > > > > > (6C > + 12 H2O = 6CO2 + 24H) > > > > Hydrogen > Reactor Development > > Original > concept design was a high > voltage, high frequency resonant device that > utilized > carbon water reaction with the feedstock > being in the > form of graphite rod stock. > This unit was > designed for vehicle application and had too > many > limitations to be used for mass hydrogen > generation. > This type reactor is very effective > at hydrogen > production since it targets the water vapor > molecule at > MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, > allowing the > carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms > leaving the > hydrogen free. This device was a closed > system that used > a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that > enabled the > hydrogen to be feed to an internal > combustion engine. > > To > allow for a sustained high mass flow of > hydrogen gas > output, reactor design took on a radical > change. > By incorporating the > Ranque/Hilsch, Counter > Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and > continuous high > mass flow and gas separation were > achieved in one > stage of operation. > Feedstock for > this type reactor could be any > carbon-based material > that could be put into a powder > form. Highest > carbon content of the feedstock provides > for the > most efficient hydrogen production with > the least > undesirable output > material. > > Super > high temperature operating regime was > chosen to be > above 2500 C for the purpose of > producing atomic > hydrogen in the process. > The original > reactor operated at temperatures that > easily > gasified basic carbon into a plasma > state > (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the > production > of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed > stock > ratios. > > > > > I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and > paid for my > 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. > lab the do the > Prototype machining and Proof of Concept > testing for > GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million > investment and > they got the rights to the process and I got > the > beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I > was a self > employed Contractor in Dallas working with > HVAC, > Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so > had to commute > 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for > my time! > Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 > acres took all > my time and when I suffered a neck fracture > in 2012, had > to retire. Liquidated the entire facility > and sold it > off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana > where I now > do a lot of relaxing and fishing! > Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel > so now I > will just contribute to the dialog inorder > to assist any > research you may be doing within my area of > experitise! BTW! I have been out to > pasture for a > long time now, so no BULL offense! As > Hector knows, "It > fits"! Lol > > > > > > > > Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol > Hat when you > come visit from PR! Lol > > > > > > > > > > On > 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > By the way ... i can hit mega millions > or the power > ball . i never will not have a lab i > can work in, > that is worst than death , you have no > idea of the > technology that had being lost by the > greedy fucking > bastards fucking my life , they will > loose all they > have "soon" because it had > being engineered that > way by accumulative bad karma, i have > another lab > they will never reach or be able to > intercept or > destroy and that will decide their fate > ..... they > will be fucked hard ! > > > > > > > > (H) > > > > ---In [email protected], > <mkjekyll@...> <mkjekyll@...> > wrote : > > > > > > Cmon Hector, > Bad taste! > > > The man had a more serious lab than > anyone else > here and his work speaks for itself. > Maybe he has > gained the fortune he desired through > R&D and > now shitting in tall cotton or gone > fishing > reaping the rewards of retirement. > Notwithstanding > is still kind enough to help point us > in the right > directions around here. > "Funny–I > can look back on a life > of > achievement, on > challenges met, > competitors bested, > obstacles > overcome. I’ve > accomplished more > than most men, and > without the use > of my legs. What?What > makes a man, > Mr. > Lebowski?" > > > On > 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > Dar n ! a Scientist inventor > with no lab > is like a breeding bull with > no balls ! > > > > > > > > > ---In [email protected], > <nwootan@...> <nwootan@...> > wrote : > > > > > Jacob! You asked me a > question and I > gave you my opinion! > I'm totally > retired at 80 years old > and have no > lab to experiment in! > Your quote; I > heard once a phrase from a > researcher > who said. '' Slow > down boy, we get > paid for llooking for > solutions, not > to find > them!'' That certainly does > not apply to me for I have > shared all > with the folks on this > site. I find > you statement very > interesting: > Technics that use up 10 % > of a magnet > in 24 hours with usual > amount of gas > looks to me extremely > inefficient. > ?????? Care > to share where you > saw the power of a > permanent magnet > being used up! We all > here on this > site share what ever > knowledge we have > on the various subjects > not seeking > any monetary gain in any > way! That is > my approach! I just > contribute to > the dialog when I run > across something > interesting and think it > will assist > you guys! Norm > > > > > On > 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob > Wall wall_jakob@... > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Norman, > > But i actually > asced for > ''most > efficient way'' to > split water known > to you! > > I realize there > are a lot of > different > technigues to do > just that. > > And yes i realize > you could > give me a rather > complex > answer. But > instead i hope for > a > > rather easy and > reproductive > answer since i am > looking > forward to solve > my enerrgy > > problems i just > can not live > with the momentary > (sad and > very stupid energy > situation) > > I am still not > giving up > becouse of a > couple mistakes > and > misunderstandings. > > If i would be a > car dealer and > you would ask me > for a most > efficient car > available on the > market > > i would for sure > not recommend > a Prius, since > there are a lot > of cars with > better fuel > economie > > even without being > a hybrid > and without > additional cost > like > batterys,e-motors and a > bunch added > ECU's > > > > Technics that use > up 10 % of a > magnet in 24 hours > with usual > amount of gas > looks to me > extremely > > inefficient. > > Also very > expensive HHO-Garage > products with > output of 1,6 > ltr/min. > > Come on, 6 rusty > nails and a > old car batery > does this job, > no need to spend > 1600 bucks on > it. > > I honestly > expected solide > advise or a honest > NO way boy, > i just talking > around. > > > > I heard once a > phrase from a > researcher who > said. '' Slow > down boy, we get > paid for > llooking for > > solutions, not to > find them!'' > That shoked me > deeply and even > if i get 150 years > old, i will > not forget it. > > Thats true treason > on mankind > and deciving the > people. I > really hope nobody > on this > forum only care > > > about what he/she > will be > doing tomorrow. > > > > Jakob > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > On Sun, 10/28/18, > Norman > Wootan nwootan@... > [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: Fwd: > Fwd: Re: > [EVGRAY] > Norm's Magnetic > Battery > > To: [email protected], > "Bert > Pool" <BertPool512@...> <BertPool512@...>, > "Bob > Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <bob.paddock@...>, > "joel > mcclain" <joel_76670@...> <joel_76670@...>, > "Jon > Gentry" <jongen422@...> <jongen422@...>, > > "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> <mbking42@...>, > "Toby > Grotz" <wireless2@...> <wireless2@...>, > "Phil > Rembold" <prembold@...> <prembold@...>, > "Angel > Alvarez" <angel@...> <angel@...>, > "Fredric > Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> <ffletcher@...> > > Received: Sunday, > October 28, > 2018, 9:44 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jacob! That > would be a rather > complex answer > > but here is > your > > starting point! > > https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html > > After having been > heavily > involved in the > COLD FUSION > > Research > > back in the 70s > and 80s I > quickly settled > o0n the best > > catalyst in > > electrolytic cells > which is > pure nickel. I > still have > > the cell > > used in the > Elemental > Replication > experiments. > > > > > > http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm > > The hidden > > part of this > research is the > use of a nickel > component > > in the > > combustion > chamber. Bosch > developed 90,000V > ignition > > systems to > > enable water > injection in gas > engine which > high > > lighted the > > Graneau HV > decomposition of > water via HVDC > > discharge! > > My magnetic > Battery when run > as an electrolytic > cell > > to produce > > hydrogen does > produce a huge > amount of hydrogen > gas as > > shown by > > the Dr. Ehrenhaft > document. I > would tell you > to > > pursue the > super > > high Tesla > magnetic flux and > nickel electrodes > in an > > electrolytic > > cell. The major > obstacle to > be overcome is the > rapid > > collection > > of ions from > solution by the > 1.3 Tesla flux > across a > > .020" > > mechanical gap > which quickly > takes the cell > into a > > super-conduction > mode which > takes out the > driving DC > > power supply. > > You can flush the > magnetic > gaps with > distilled water > > and the gaps > > will show in the > meg-ohm range > then go to zero > ohms > > after a short > > period of running, > the > gathered ions > totally short > > cell. During > > the brief runs > there is a huge > amount of hydrogen > gas > > produced > > which I burned off > as it was > generated. Much > can be > > said about > > driving the cell > with high > frequencies as the > Myers > > research > > showed. Our > friend up in > Canada at George > Wiseman, > > Eagle Research > > is running well > ahead of the > crowd on the > production > > of H-H-O. > > Just for > giggles! > > > > > > 16 October > > 1996 > > To: Hal > > Fox, Fusion > Facts > > Elemental > > Replication ? > > > > Around > mid > > September > > I put together > an > > electrolysis cell > similar to > the Miles Nickel > Cold > > Fusion Cell > > with the goal > of > > exploring the > possibilities of > making what is > > termed > “Pristine > > Water”. This > water > > which will be used > by > Homeopaths > > will have had all > memory or > information > > removed. This is > accomplished > by > > recombining > monatomic > > hydrogen and > monatomic oxygen > as generated in > a > > properly > > designed cell. > This is > > the ultimate in > purity since > this is > > water with > conditions at the > time of > original > > creation. > “Holly Water”is a > term > > coined by my > dear > > friend and fellow > researcher > Joe Tyls of > > Vancouver, BC. > After several > weeks of > > successful > operation > > producing water > that had all > the earmarks of > a > > true > “pristine > > water” a > fellow > > researcher > suggested using an > alternate > > electrolyte. A > solution was > selected > > that contained > 77 > > colloidal minerals > as found in > plants that are > the > > easiest > > assimilated into > the > > body. With > the > > electrolyte > changed the > > cell was put back > into > operation as > before with a > > nice > > recombination burn > and > > production of the > sought after > “pristine > > water”. > > > > > > After about > an > > hour of > > operation the > cell > > went absolutely > “nuts” with > the temperature > > rapidly > climbing > > to boiling > point > > and the current > out of sight. > > When the > > cell was opened we > found a > deep red sludge > deposit > > which > > shorted the > cell > > plates. Our > first > > thought was that > the > > electrolytic > action > precipitated out > the colloidal > > minerals > > which caused > the > > deposit found. > The > > electrolyte was > allowed > > to settle out > the > > precipitate. > After > > decanting off, > the clear > electrolyte > > was > > returned to the > > cell for another > run. Again > the cell > operated > > normally for > > about an hour with > a > > normal > recombination burn and > recovery of the > > water being > > consumed by the > cell > > in the splitting > action. > Again > > the cell > > temperature and > current > mirrored the > first > > run. > > Again the cell > contained the > same amount of > > sludge > > residue. This > process > > was repeated ten > (10) times > > with exactly the > same > results. > > All of > > the sludge was > carefully dried > and weighed on > an > > electronic > > scale with a > five > > decimal > > resolution. > > The cell plates > and all > hardware were > > weighed to > > determine any loss > of > > mass that may > contribute to > the mass gain > observed > > in the > > sludge. Five > hundred > > (500) ml of the > original > > electrolyte > solution used in > the cell was > vacuum > > distilled to > > determine the > > exact mass of > colloidal > minerals > > contained. > > When all factors > were > considered we > came > > out with a > > mass gain of 48 > gm > > which cannot be > explained by > > conventional > > electrolysis. > > > > After > talking > > to Dr. > > Robert Bass and > Hal > > Fox I learned of a > patent that > has been filed > on > > the > > transmutation of > elements > > in the cold fusion > cell which > is the process > that > > Dr. John > > Bockris has been > so > > active in. > Both Dr. > > Bass and Hal > Fox > > stated that what I > was > observing is not > the same > > as the > > transmutation > observed > > in the cold fusion > cell since > I have a > overall > > mass gain and > > not a lateral > > movement of > elements in the > periodic table > toward > > lighter > > elements with a > > resulting heat > release. This > > unusual > > cell operation has > caused > quite a reaction > in the > > scientific > > community. At > this > > time I have built > a complete > new cell > > with every > possible factor > which could > possibly > > explain the > > mass gain > > considered and > documented. > The > > ten (10) > > consecutive runs > on the new > cell will be > completed > > soon and a > > report will be > > forthcoming. > What is > > interesting > about > > this phenomenon is > that when > an eleventh run > was > > made with the > > original > > electrolyte > exactly the same > amount of residue > was > > recovered > > as in the > previous > > ten > > runs. > > > > > > > Since > > the same > electrolyte is reused > each time with > only > > distilled > > water being > added > > to replace the > volume lost by > the removal of > the > > solids and > > the water > recovered > > by the > recombination burn we > are hard pressed > to > > explain the > > observed > > > phenomenon. The > > electrolyte > appears > > stronger in > mineral > concentration and > shows no > > sign of > > > > depletion. > > > > After > conferring > > with > > Joe Tyls we > arrived at > > the conclusion > that the 77 > colloidal > minerals > > contained in > the > > electrolyte > > provide the atomic > templates > needed for the > > monatomic > hydrogen > > (father of all > > the elements) to > replicate > selected elements > in > > this exotic > > mixture. If > you > > subscribe to the > theories of > the late > > Walter Russell and > his > explanation of the > octave > > based > > periodic table > with > > monatonic hydrogen > being what > he describes as > > hydrons > > (precursor to > hydrogen) > > then it is > possible for the > replication of > > elements > directly > > from energy > input > > alone. This is > how all > > matter was > > created in the > beginning as > described by > > Schappeller in > “The > > Physics of the > > Primary State of > Matter”. I > > will keep > > all informed as to > our > progress and > findings in > > this very > > intriguing > venture. > > > > Norman > > Wootan > > P.O. > > Box 141049 > > Dallas, > > TX 75214 > > (214) > > 360-0865 > > > > > > CC: Gene > Mallove, > > Infinite > > Energy > > CC: Dr. John > > Bockris, Texas > > A/M > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/28/2018 1:01 > AM, > > Jakob Wall > > wall_jakob@... > > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Norman, > > > >
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Allso there's a tar problem with wood base generator watch out for the design like the the FEMA desine is a tar maker engine killer .I just abandoned the recsearce due to to many problems with it there's was a design for one that used green wood or wet wood that worked .ifvit had been real good the last generation would of matained it .Australia had a lovely t of good info on it . On Thursday, November 8, 2018, James Glinski <[email protected]> wrote: > The wood gas generators were abandoned due to the ash rafting up the > engines there were a million of them in europe after ww2 .and a carbon > problem is fixed with a filter .Hector did you have two walls and two > generators you said it was a HHO generator that took out your wall before > ?.your place is pretty Breezy now 😂 > > On Thursday, November 8, 2018, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > Jakob Wall, maybe the Old Tried and Tested over time wood gas technology > would be best for you! Very simple and I built one to run a 5KW generator > and it worked . This technology has been around since civilization first > saw an underground coal seam burning without atmospheric oxygen. The > burning coal converts ground water into carbon monoxide and hydrogen and is > self sustaining for many years. Start by reading the history and > applications. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator > > http://www.edina.eu/gas-generators/applications/non- > conventional-gas/syngas/ > > See: attachment! > > During the development of my Hydrogen Vortex Reactor, I questioned the > academic answer as to temperature that water vapor would break down into > hydrogen and oxygen. After talking to a lot of very experienced fire > fighters, the consensus was that if you spray water into a fire that is > visibly WHITE HOT, the water will exacerbate the situation because you have > entered the region of threshold dissociation of water vapor into hydrogen. > Think about how an ordinary magnesium flare can burn underwater. Simple > fact is that the magnesium burns so hot that the flame is self sustaining > from the water. Happy building! Jakob. BTW! I build a wood gas generator > from a heavy duty clamp top type 55 gal steel drum lined with fire brick > and used leaves straw and wood chips as fuel feed stock. A water ash > scrubber stage will give you clean syn-gas to run your generator. > On 11/7/2018 5:57 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > Bingo fuel is a good way to run a motor but the carbon rods you either > have to buy them or make them to make the get any carbon source to make > biochar once made grind up dry and add molasses to make past fill tube like > copper or steel heat to red hot and aply 500 volts till cool .experimenting > is nessary to get the voltage lower and the set up just right ...found > information in a very old patent .but if you persevere you got it .now the > problem is a constant cheap Carbon source ..dryed grass clippings to old > wood pallets .no ash as in gasogen .clean and you can use them for > electrodes or welding rods for cutting steel of a extream spot light like > in concentration camps . > > On Wednesday, November 7, 2018, Jakob Wall [email protected] [EVGRAY] < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > Thanks guys, some of that looks feasible. > > -------------------------------------------- > On Wed, 11/7/18, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments] > To: [email protected] > Received: Wednesday, November 7, Jakob, > You may also have a look at this as it's a less > complex version > incorporating a couple of Norms findings allegedly > allowing for > enough power to run internal combustion engines from > water and a > carbon arc. The name is funny as it's a pun from > the lexicon of a > pilot one never wants to hear from the cockpit. If > the pilot says > bingofuel to ATC that means he thinks he may have just > enough fuel > to the drop to land the plane so clear me for a runway > and get the > emergency crews there. > > http://bingofuel.online.fr/bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm > > > > > On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, > Norman Wootan > [email protected] > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On > 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman > Wootan wrote: > > > > Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on > here need to > read the Whole Story as to why I no longer > have a > research lab. Jakob, I'm sorry I did > not reveal to you > the BEST in my opinion of methods of > producing hydrogen > gas for I felt it was a little too advanced > and > difficult for you to experiment with. See: > https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en > . There is a very long story behind this > US Patent and > a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a > very > inexpensive method of splitting water has > been the Holy > Grail of cheap energy. In addition to > the research > papers and links that I gave to you, here > are some more > to dwell on. > https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_ > water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen > https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen- > and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature > https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into- > hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one- > kilowatt-hour-of-electricity > http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm > https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741 > Please read carefully about the play of > Nickel in this > approach! > > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction > I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, > AR where > they still had the old water gas generator > and gas > storage facility. > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation > https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water- > splitting-catalyst.html > https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could- > split-water-cheaply/ > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to- > make-hydrogen-from-water/ > "SUPER STEAM - A Tesla > conference in Colorado > surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). > Leonard > Dorsett and friends from Texas share > strikingly similar > views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have > technology which > produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F > without a > boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over > traditional > boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out > gasoline fires > and treat many waste problems. Of major > importance to > Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help > to produce > heat and Aquastone at considerable > savings." > > > > For further information on Aquarian Agency > Ltd. they can > be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, > <https://maps.google.com/?q=38+Weir+Rd,+Wimbledon,+%0D%0A+London+SW19&entry=gmail&source=g> > London SW19 SUG, > England or on Internet at <aquarian > ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM > TECHNOLOGY PART 2 > > > > Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX > 76092) > demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at > the 1994 > International Tesla Symposium. SST is a > system for > producing steam at any temperature or > pressure > independently and instantly without the need > for a > conventional boiler. It can instantly > produce steam of > any temperature from hot water at 180F to > super heated > steam at over 3000F, while pressures can > vary from 1PSI > to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up > to over > 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, > methane, > petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen > or just > about anything else that bums and converts > virtually > 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: > The person > in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA > fame) > > > > This all sounds great, but how does it work? > The basis > of the unit is a specially designed open > throat chamber > with controlled air, water and fuel > interaction and a > high voltage ignition resulting in a direct > fire process > establishing thermal zones. This creates a > stoichiometric condition resulting in a full > spectrum of > steam product. Now comes the interesting > part At the > increased temperatures of steam, > disassociation occurs. > (Could this be a clue to running cars on > water??) The > hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an > exponential > increase of energy resulting in super heated > steam. A > similar superheat process was addressed by > Tesla in the > October 12, 1911 publication of the > "Engineering News > Record". > > > > Applications of the SST system include a > much more > economical way of producing electricity as > no > conventional boiler is needed. It will also > be an ideal > low cost method for heating and cooling > homes and > businesses. Small portable units can be > developed for > home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect > and ant > removal, without the dangers of > insecticides. The system > can also be used for low cost purification > of polluted > water or sewerage and can also convert salt > water into > drinking water both quickly and > inexpensively. Other > uses are in fire fighting applications, ice > and snow > removal from roads, etc. and sterilization > and nurturing > of soil for agriculture where contamination > has > occurred. > I had designed a method of making hydrogen > from carbon > & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic > Bombardment > method of high frequency inside of spherical > inclosure > like this experiments with the carbon button > lamp > globes. After working with Leonard > Dorsett and his > Super Steam Project, I chose to use the > Water Shift > Process instead. A side note is needed > here! The Super > Steam Process was a result of Professor > Brown studying > the method the German's used for torpedo > propulsion from > WWI. Acetylene Gas and sea water produced > an exothermic > reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built > several > reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area > to break > (down hole) the parafin deposits to release > crude oil. > The Chemical equation for the reaction in > the US > Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en > > > > > > (6C > + 12 H2O = 6CO2 + 24H) > > > > Hydrogen > Reactor Development > > Original > concept design was a high > voltage, high frequency resonant device that > utilized > carbon water reaction with the feedstock > being in the > form of graphite rod stock. > This unit was > designed for vehicle application and had too > many > limitations to be used for mass hydrogen > generation. > This type reactor is very effective > at hydrogen > production since it targets the water vapor > molecule at > MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, > allowing the > carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms > leaving the > hydrogen free. This device was a closed > system that used > a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that > enabled the > hydrogen to be feed to an internal > combustion engine. > > To > allow for a sustained high mass flow of > hydrogen gas > output, reactor design took on a radical > change. > By incorporating the > Ranque/Hilsch, Counter > Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and > continuous high > mass flow and gas separation were > achieved in one > stage of operation. > Feedstock for > this type reactor could be any > carbon-based material > that could be put into a powder > form. Highest > carbon content of the feedstock provides > for the > most efficient hydrogen production with > the least > undesirable output > material. > > Super > high temperature operating regime was > chosen to be > above 2500 C for the purpose of > producing atomic > hydrogen in the process. > The original > reactor operated at temperatures that > easily > gasified basic carbon into a plasma > state > (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the > production > of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed > stock > ratios. > > > > > I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and > paid for my > 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. > lab the do the > Prototype machining and Proof of Concept > testing for > GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million > investment and > they got the rights to the process and I got > the > beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I > was a self > employed Contractor in Dallas working with > HVAC, > Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so > had to commute > 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for > my time! > Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 > acres took all > my time and when I suffered a neck fracture > in 2012, had > to retire. Liquidated the entire facility > and sold it > off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana > where I now > do a lot of relaxing and fishing! > Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel > so now I > will just contribute to the dialog inorder > to assist any > research you may be doing within my area of > experitise! BTW! I have been out to > pasture for a > long time now, so no BULL offense! As > Hector knows, "It > fits"! Lol > > > > > > > > Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol > Hat when you > come visit from PR! Lol > > > > > > > > > > On > 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > By the way ... i can hit mega millions > or the power > ball . i never will not have a lab i > can work in, > that is worst than death , you have no > idea of the > technology that had being lost by the > greedy fucking > bastards fucking my life , they will > loose all they > have "soon" because it had > being engineered that > way by accumulative bad karma, i have > another lab > they will never reach or be able to > intercept or > destroy and that will decide their fate > ..... they > will be fucked hard ! > > > > > > > > (H) > > > > ---In [email protected], > <mkjekyll@...> <mkjekyll@...> > wrote : > > > > > > Cmon Hector, > Bad taste! > > > The man had a more serious lab than > anyone else > here and his work speaks for itself. > Maybe he has > gained the fortune he desired through > R&D and > now shitting in tall cotton or gone > fishing > reaping the rewards of retirement. > Notwithstanding > is still kind enough to help point us > in the right > directions around here. > "Funny–I > can look back on a life > of > achievement, on > challenges met, > competitors bested, > obstacles > overcome. I’ve > accomplished more > than most men, and > without the use > of my legs. What?What > makes a man, > Mr. > Lebowski?" > > > On > 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > > Dar n ! a Scientist inventor > with no lab > is like a breeding bull with > no balls ! > > > > > > > > > ---In [email protected], > <nwootan@...> <nwootan@...> > wrote : > > > > > Jacob! You asked me a > question and I > gave you my opinion! > I'm totally > retired at 80 years old > and have no > lab to experiment in! > Your quote; I > heard once a phrase from a > researcher > who said. '' Slow > down boy, we get > paid for llooking for > solutions, not > to find > them!'' That certainly does > not apply to me for I have > shared all > with the folks on this > site. I find > you statement very > interesting: > Technics that use up 10 % > of a magnet > in 24 hours with usual > amount of gas > looks to me extremely > inefficient. > ?????? Care > to share where you > saw the power of a > permanent magnet > being used up! We all > here on this > site share what ever > knowledge we have > on the various subjects > not seeking > any monetary gain in any > way! That is > my approach! I just > contribute to > the dialog when I run > across something > interesting and think it > will assist > you guys! Norm > > > > > On > 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob > Wall wall_jakob@... > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Norman, > > But i actually > asced for > ''most > efficient way'' to > split water known > to you! > > I realize there > are a lot of > different > technigues to do > just that. > > And yes i realize > you could > give me a rather > complex > answer. But > instead i hope for > a > > rather easy and > reproductive > answer since i am > looking > forward to solve > my enerrgy > > problems i just > can not live > with the momentary > (sad and > very stupid energy > situation) > > I am still not > giving up > becouse of a > couple mistakes > and > misunderstandings. > > If i would be a > car dealer and > you would ask me > for a most > efficient car > available on the > market > > i would for sure > not recommend > a Prius, since > there are a lot > of cars with > better fuel > economie > > even without being > a hybrid > and without > additional cost > like > batterys,e-motors and a > bunch added > ECU's > > > > Technics that use > up 10 % of a > magnet in 24 hours > with usual > amount of gas > looks to me > extremely > > inefficient. > > Also very > expensive HHO-Garage > products with > output of 1,6 > ltr/min. > > Come on, 6 rusty > nails and a > old car batery > does this job, > no need to spend > 1600 bucks on > it. > > I honestly > expected solide > advise or a honest > NO way boy, > i just talking > around. > > > > I heard once a > phrase from a > researcher who > said. '' Slow > down boy, we get > paid for > llooking for > > solutions, not to > find them!'' > That shoked me > deeply and even > if i get 150 years > old, i will > not forget it. > > Thats true treason > on mankind > and deciving the > people. I > really hope nobody > on this > forum only care > > > about what he/she > will be > doing tomorrow. > > > > Jakob > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > On Sun, 10/28/18, > Norman > Wootan nwootan@... > [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: Fwd: > Fwd: Re: > [EVGRAY] > Norm's Magnetic > Battery > > To: [email protected], > "Bert > Pool" <BertPool512@...> <BertPool512@...>, > "Bob > Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <bob.paddock@...>, > "joel > mcclain" <joel_76670@...> <joel_76670@...>, > "Jon > Gentry" <jongen422@...> <jongen422@...>, > > "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> <mbking42@...>, > "Toby > Grotz" <wireless2@...> <wireless2@...>, > "Phil > Rembold" <prembold@...> <prembold@...>, > "Angel > Alvarez" <angel@...> <angel@...>, > "Fredric > Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> <ffletcher@...> > > Received: Sunday, > October 28, > 2018, 9:44 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jacob! That > would be a rather > complex answer > > but here is > your > > starting point! > > https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html > > After having been > heavily > involved in the > COLD FUSION > > Research > > back in the 70s > and 80s I > quickly settled > o0n the best > > catalyst in > > electrolytic cells > which is > pure nickel. I > still have > > the cell > > used in the > Elemental > Replication > experiments. > > > > > > http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm > > The hidden > > part of this > research is the > use of a nickel > component > > in the > > combustion > chamber. Bosch > developed 90,000V > ignition > > systems to > > enable water > injection in gas > engine which > high > > lighted the > > Graneau HV > decomposition of > water via HVDC > > discharge! > > My magnetic > Battery when run > as an electrolytic > cell > > to produce > > hydrogen does > produce a huge > amount of hydrogen > gas as > > shown by > > the Dr. Ehrenhaft > document. I > would tell you > to > > pursue the > super > > high Tesla > magnetic flux and > nickel electrodes > in an > > electrolytic > > cell. The major > obstacle to > be overcome is the > rapid > > collection > > of ions from > solution by the > 1.3 Tesla flux > across a > > .020" > > mechanical gap > which quickly > takes the cell > into a > > super-conduction > mode which > takes out the > driving DC > > power supply. > > You can flush the > magnetic > gaps with > distilled water > > and the gaps > > will show in the > meg-ohm range > then go to zero > ohms > > after a short > > period of running, > the > gathered ions > totally short > > cell. During > > the brief runs > there is a huge > amount of hydrogen > gas > > produced > > which I burned off > as it was > generated. Much > can be > > said about > > driving the cell > with high > frequencies as the > Myers > > research > > showed. Our > friend up in > Canada at George > Wiseman, > > Eagle Research > > is running well > ahead of the > crowd on the > production > > of H-H-O. > > Just for > giggles! > > > > > > 16 October > > 1996 > > To: Hal > > Fox, Fusion > Facts > > Elemental > > Replication ? > > > > Around > mid > > September > > I put together > an > > electrolysis cell > similar to > the Miles Nickel > Cold > > Fusion Cell > > with the goal > of > > exploring the > possibilities of > making what is > > termed > “Pristine > > Water”. This > water > > which will be used > by > Homeopaths > > will have had all > memory or > information > > removed. This is > accomplished > by > > recombining > monatomic > > hydrogen and > monatomic oxygen > as generated in > a > > properly > > designed cell. > This is > > the ultimate in > purity since > this is > > water with > conditions at the > time of > original > > creation. > “Holly Water”is a > term > > coined by my > dear > > friend and fellow > researcher > Joe Tyls of > > Vancouver, BC. > After several > weeks of > > successful > operation > > producing water > that had all > the earmarks of > a > > true > “pristine > > water” a > fellow > > researcher > suggested using an > alternate > > electrolyte. A > solution was > selected > > that contained > 77 > > colloidal minerals > as found in > plants that are > the > > easiest > > assimilated into > the > > body. With > the > > electrolyte > changed the > > cell was put back > into > operation as > before with a > > nice > > recombination burn > and > > production of the > sought after > “pristine > > water”. > > > > > > After about > an > > hour of > > operation the > cell > > went absolutely > “nuts” with > the temperature > > rapidly > climbing > > to boiling > point > > and the current > out of sight. > > When the > > cell was opened we > found a > deep red sludge > deposit > > which > > shorted the > cell > > plates. Our > first > > thought was that > the > > electrolytic > action > precipitated out > the colloidal > > minerals > > which caused > the > > deposit found. > The > > electrolyte was > allowed > > to settle out > the > > precipitate. > After > > decanting off, > the clear > electrolyte > > was > > returned to the > > cell for another > run. Again > the cell > operated > > normally for > > about an hour with > a > > normal > recombination burn and > recovery of the > > water being > > consumed by the > cell > > in the splitting > action. > Again > > the cell > > temperature and > current > mirrored the > first > > run. > > Again the cell > contained the > same amount of > > sludge > > residue. This > process > > was repeated ten > (10) times > > with exactly the > same > results. > > All of > > the sludge was > carefully dried > and weighed on > an > > electronic > > scale with a > five > > decimal > > resolution. > > The cell plates > and all > hardware were > > weighed to > > determine any loss > of > > mass that may > contribute to > the mass gain > observed > > in the > > sludge. Five > hundred > > (500) ml of the > original > > electrolyte > solution used in > the cell was > vacuum > > distilled to > > determine the > > exact mass of > colloidal > minerals > > contained. > > When all factors > were > considered we > came > > out with a > > mass gain of 48 > gm > > which cannot be > explained by > > conventional > > electrolysis. > > > > After > talking > > to Dr. > > Robert Bass and > Hal > > Fox I learned of a > patent that > has been filed > on > > the > > transmutation of > elements > > in the cold fusion > cell which > is the process > that > > Dr. John > > Bockris has been > so > > active in. > Both Dr. > > Bass and Hal > Fox > > stated that what I > was > observing is not > the same > > as the > > transmutation > observed > > in the cold fusion > cell since > I have a > overall > > mass gain and > > not a lateral > > movement of > elements in the > periodic table > toward > > lighter > > elements with a > > resulting heat > release. This > > unusual > > cell operation has > caused > quite a reaction > in the > > scientific > > community. At > this > > time I have built > a complete > new cell > > with every > possible factor > which could > possibly > > explain the > > mass gain > > considered and > documented. > The > > ten (10) > > consecutive runs > on the new > cell will be > completed > > soon and a > > report will be > > forthcoming. > What is > > interesting > about > > this phenomenon is > that when > an eleventh run > was > > made with the > > original > > electrolyte > exactly the same > amount of residue > was > > recovered > > as in the > previous > > ten > > runs. > > > > > > > Since > > the same > electrolyte is reused > each time with > only > > distilled > > water being > added > > to replace the > volume lost by > the removal of > the > > solids and > > the water > recovered > > by the > recombination burn we > are hard pressed > to > > explain the > > observed > > > phenomenon. The > > electrolyte > appears > > stronger in > mineral > concentration and > shows no > > sign of > > > > depletion. > > > > After > conferring > > with > > Joe Tyls we > arrived at > > the conclusion > that the 77 > colloidal > minerals > > contained in > the > > electrolyte > > provide the atomic > templates > needed for the > > monatomic > hydrogen > > (father of all > > the elements) to > replicate > selected elements > in > > this exotic > > mixture. If > you > > subscribe to the > theories of > the late > > Walter Russell and > his > explanation of the > octave > > based > > periodic table > with > > monatonic hydrogen > being what > he describes as > > hydrons > > (precursor to > hydrogen) > > then it is > possible for the > replication of > > elements > directly > > from energy > input > > alone. This is > how all > > matter was > > created in the > beginning as > described by > > Schappeller in > “The > > Physics of the > > Primary State of > Matter”. I > > will keep > > all informed as to > our > progress and > findings in > > this very > > intriguing > venture. > > > > Norman > > Wootan > > P.O. > > Box 141049 > > Dallas, > > TX 75214 > > (214) > > 360-0865 > > > > > > CC: Gene > Mallove, > > Infinite > > Energy > > CC: Dr. John > > Bockris, Texas > > A/M > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/28/2018 1:01 > AM, > > Jakob Wall > > wall_jakob@... > > [EVGRAY > >
[11/14] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
2018-11-09T09:55:32+00:00
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onielsen2000
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Hi Mick, I believe that the pulse used for generating the oscillations must be at least as fast as the frequency that is to oscillate. For generating overtones (https://wiki2.org/en/Overtone https://wiki2.org/en/Overtone) the pulse then has to be faster than the fundamental frequency of oscillation. Read Tesla about generating high frequency. Tesla used high voltage of very fast rise time to start the oscillations. The very fast rise time represents the high frequency components. High rise times are generated by transistors in avalanche mode which is like a solid state spark gap. The spark happens inside the semiconducting crystal. Regards Ole ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote : Warren, That is an interesting circuit and it seems to take advantage of a semiconductors avalanche mode. I have seen some very interesting power gains from this function of a semiconductor and Ole proposed using the mode in order to make something over unity that is not fussy about the tuning. Some of the devices that use a rotational field use harmonics so as to get rotational speeds beyond the frequency of the devices. Like the push on the swing set but rather than a swing a vortex with multiple points of energy input. Most transistors have a limit of a few mHz. I do not know what the speed of the vortex has to be to enter the relativistic area in which the time stream becomes bent enough but figure it is way up there. ...
[12/14] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
2018-11-09T11:52:29+00:00
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Warren Keillor
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DougSteel wool burns very easily in an oxygen atmosphere.I use stainless steel scrubbing pads from the Chinese Dollar store, for flame arrestors, and air intake filters for my 1935 Morris roadster.I have also used them in my propane flame ball projectors, as they don't react chemically.The steel wool pads regularly burst into flame when they are on my welding table when ever a spark gets on them. Stainless scrubbies are very cheap, and are no problem that way.Cheers Warren Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 6:29 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: H Mick Hector can correct me but I remember him using steel wool as the blow back arrestor/filter in his bingo went bango HHO experiment and it clogged up over short time period and gave nowhere for the gas to exit and blew up from one nasty hydrogen fart Kone #yiv5330832748 #yiv5330832748 -- #yiv5330832748ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv5330832748 #yiv5330832748ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv5330832748 #yiv5330832748ygrp-mkp #yiv5330832748hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv5330832748 #yiv5330832748ygrp-mkp #yiv5330832748ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv5330832748 #yiv5330832748ygrp-mkp .yiv5330832748ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv5330832748 #yiv5330832748ygrp-mkp .yiv5330832748ad p 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[13/14] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
2018-11-11T05:04:49-06:00
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Norman Wootan
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Warren! I was really interested in the Ainslie Theory but had no success with it! What I find interesting is the huge investment in the wind turbine Industry. (Going after big Government $ grants). My son is an AUV Engineer doing the ocean floor Geophysical work for locating the foundation spots for these turbines. They completed the Martha Vinyard site last year and now are working out of Elizabeth City, NJ doing foundations for 250 turbines in the NYC harbor sound! I see a lot of totally abandoned wind turbines around the world just gathering dust since it is too expensive to tear down and remove them???? On 11/8/2018 7:43 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: > > Norman > > For my part, in my thinking, Rosemary Ainslie, a physicist, at a > university in South Africa, has a nice little circuit she has made to > prove her theory. > It has been replicated by several experimenters, as there are plenty > of youtube videos, a few, full of nasty muck raking bullshit, for some > reason. > I have spoken with her on the phone, and in emails over the years. > She is the real deal, a modest, and straight forward scientist, giving > her work to the World. > It is a little circuit that makes 17 X the input electricity as > resistance heat. > I have purchased the transistors she has been using, a somewhat > obscure, almost obsolete product. > I got mine from Texas. > If I am able to get it going, a little later as the ow flies, here in > Canada, I want to feed the product into the electric hot water heater, > that at present, is only used as a header tank for the heat pump > system. It uses 220 volts, and has resistance elements. What the hell, > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> > > On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 6:29 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Jakob Wall, maybe the Old Tried and Tested over time wood gas > technology would be best for you! Very simple and I built one to > run a 5KW generator and it worked . This technology has been > around since civilization first saw an underground coal seam > burning without atmospheric oxygen. The burning coal converts > ground water into carbon monoxide and hydrogen and is self > sustaining for many years. Start by reading the history and > applications. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator > > http://www.edina.eu/gas-generators/applications/non-conventional-gas/syngas/ > > See: attachment! > > During the development of my Hydrogen Vortex Reactor, I questioned > the academic answer as to temperature that water vapor would break > down into hydrogen and oxygen. After talking to a lot of very > experienced fire fighters, the consensus was that if you spray > water into a fire that is visibly WHITE HOT, the water will > exacerbate the situation because you have entered the region of > threshold dissociation of water vapor into hydrogen. Think about > how an ordinary magnesium flare can burn underwater. Simple fact > is that the magnesium burns so hot that the flame is self > sustaining from the water. Happy building! Jakob. BTW! I build a > wood gas generator from a heavy duty clamp top type 55 gal steel > drum lined with fire brick and used leaves straw and wood chips as > fuel feed stock. A water ash scrubber stage will give you clean > syn-gas to run your generator. > > On 11/7/2018 5:57 PM, James Glinski [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> Bingo fuel is a good way to run a motor but the carbon rods you >> either have to buy them or make them to make the get any carbon >> source to make biochar once made grind up dry and add molasses to >> make past fill tube like copper or steel heat to red hot and aply >> 500 volts till cool .experimenting is nessary to get the voltage >> lower and the set up just right ...found information in a very >> old patent .but if you persevere you got it .now the problem is a >> constant cheap Carbon source ..dryed grass clippings to old wood >> pallets .no ash as in gasogen .clean and you can use them for >> electrodes or welding rods for cutting steel of a extream spot >> light like in concentration camps . >> >> >> On Wednesday, November 7, 2018, Jakob Wall [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Thanks guys, some of that looks feasible. >> >> ------------------------------ -------------- >> On Wed, 11/7/18, Mick [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery >> [2 Attachments] >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Received: Wednesday, November 7, Jakob, >> You may also have a look at this as it's a less >> complex version >> incorporating a couple of Norms findings allegedly >> allowing for >> enough power to run internal combustion engines from >> water and a >> carbon arc. The name is funny as it's a pun from >> the lexicon of a >> pilot one never wants to hear from the cockpit. If >> the pilot says >> bingofuel to ATC that means he thinks he may have just >> enough fuel >> to the drop to land the plane so clear me for a runway >> and get the >> emergency crews there. >> >> http://bingofuel.online.fr/ bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm >> <http://bingofuel.online.fr/bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm> >> >> >> >> >> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, >> Norman Wootan >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On >> 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman >> Wootan wrote: >> >> >> >> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on >> here need to >> read the Whole Story as to why I no longer >> have a >> research lab. Jakob, I'm sorry I did >> not reveal to you >> the BEST in my opinion of methods of >> producing hydrogen >> gas for I felt it was a little too advanced >> and >> difficult for you to experiment with. See: >> https://patents.google.com/ patent/US7097676B2/en >> <https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en> >> . There is a very long story behind this >> US Patent and >> a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a >> very >> inexpensive method of splitting water has >> been the Holy >> Grail of cheap energy. In addition to >> the research >> papers and links that I gave to you, here >> are some more >> to dwell on. >> https://www.researchgate.net/ post/At_what_temperature_ >> water_will_decompose_to_ Oxygen_and_Hydrogen >> <https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen> >> https://www.quora.com/Does- water-break-down-into-oxygen- >> and-hydrogen-at-high- temperatures-If-so-then-at- >> what-temperature >> <https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature> >> https://www.quora.com/How- much-water-can-you-split-into- >> hydrogen-and-oxygen-using- electrolysis-with-one- >> kilowatt-hour-of-electricity >> <https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity> >> http://www.redrok.com/ hion96a1.htm >> <http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm> >> https://www.nature.com/ articles/nplants201741 >> <https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741> >> Please read carefully about the play of >> Nickel in this >> approach! >> >> >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Water_splitting >> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting> >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction >> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction> >> I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, >> AR where >> they still had the old water gas generator >> and gas >> storage facility. >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Decarboxylation >> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation> >> https://phys.org/news/2018-02- uncovers-mechanism-water- >> splitting-catalyst.html >> <https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html> >> https://www. scientificamerican.com/ >> article/new-catalyst-could- split-water-cheaply/ >> <https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/> >> https://www.technologyreview. com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to- >> make-hydrogen-from-water/ >> <https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/> >> "SUPER STEAM - A Tesla >> conference in Colorado >> surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). >> Leonard >> Dorsett and friends from Texas share >> strikingly similar >> views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have >> technology which >> produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F >> without a >> boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over >> traditional >> boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out >> gasoline fires >> and treat many waste problems. Of major >> importance to >> Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help >> to produce >> heat and Aquastone at considerable >> savings." >> >> >> >> For further information on Aquarian Agency >> Ltd. they can >> be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=38+Weir+Rd,+Wimbledon,+%0D%0A+London+SW19&entry=gmail&source=g> >> London SW19 SUG, >> England or on Internet at <aquarian >> ocign.ape.org <http://ocign.ape.org>>. SUPER STEAM >> TECHNOLOGY PART 2 >> >> >> >> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX >> 76092) >> demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at >> the 1994 >> International Tesla Symposium. SST is a >> system for >> producing steam at any temperature or >> pressure >> independently and instantly without the need >> for a >> conventional boiler. It can instantly >> produce steam of >> any temperature from hot water at 180F to >> super heated >> steam at over 3000F, while pressures can >> vary from 1PSI >> to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up >> to over >> 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, >> methane, >> petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen >> or just >> about anything else that bums and converts >> virtually >> 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: >> The person >> in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA >> fame) >> >> >> >> This all sounds great, but how does it work? >> The basis >> of the unit is a specially designed open >> throat chamber >> with controlled air, water and fuel >> interaction and a >> high voltage ignition resulting in a direct >> fire process >> establishing thermal zones. This creates a >> stoichiometric condition resulting in a full >> spectrum of >> steam product. Now comes the interesting >> part At the >> increased temperatures of steam, >> disassociation occurs. >> (Could this be a clue to running cars on >> water??) The >> hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an >> exponential >> increase of energy resulting in super heated >> steam. A >> similar superheat process was addressed by >> Tesla in the >> October 12, 1911 publication of the >> "Engineering News >> Record". >> >> >> >> Applications of the SST system include a >> much more >> economical way of producing electricity as >> no >> conventional boiler is needed. It will also >> be an ideal >> low cost method for heating and cooling >> homes and >> businesses. Small portable units can be >> developed for >> home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect >> and ant >> removal, without the dangers of >> insecticides. The system >> can also be used for low cost purification >> of polluted >> water or sewerage and can also convert salt >> water into >> drinking water both quickly and >> inexpensively. Other >> uses are in fire fighting applications, ice >> and snow >> removal from roads, etc. and sterilization >> and nurturing >> of soil for agriculture where contamination >> has >> occurred. >> I had designed a method of making hydrogen >> from carbon >> & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic >> Bombardment >> method of high frequency inside of spherical >> inclosure >> like this experiments with the carbon button >> lamp >> globes. After working with Leonard >> Dorsett and his >> Super Steam Project, I chose to use the >> Water Shift >> Process instead. A side note is needed >> here! The Super >> Steam Process was a result of Professor >> Brown studying >> the method the German's used for torpedo >> propulsion from >> WWI. Acetylene Gas and sea water produced >> an exothermic >> reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built >> several >> reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area >> to break >> (down hole) the parafin deposits to release >> crude oil. >> The Chemical equation for the reaction in >> the US >> Patent: https://patents.google.com/ patent/US7097676B2/en >> <https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en> >> >> >> >> >> >> (6C >> + 12 H2O = 6CO2 + 24H) >> >> >> >> Hydrogen >> Reactor Development >> >> Original >> concept design was a high >> voltage, high frequency resonant device that >> utilized >> carbon water reaction with the feedstock >> being in the >> form of graphite rod stock. >> This unit was >> designed for vehicle application and had too >> many >> limitations to be used for mass hydrogen >> generation. >> This type reactor is very effective >> at hydrogen >> production since it targets the water vapor >> molecule at >> MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, >> allowing the >> carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms >> leaving the >> hydrogen free. This device was a closed >> system that used >> a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that >> enabled the >> hydrogen to be feed to an internal >> combustion engine. >> >> To >> allow for a sustained high mass flow of >> hydrogen gas >> output, reactor design took on a radical >> change. >> By incorporating the >> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter >> Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and >> continuous high >> mass flow and gas separation were >> achieved in one >> stage of operation. >> Feedstock for >> this type reactor could be any >> carbon-based material >> that could be put into a powder >> form. Highest >> carbon content of the feedstock provides >> for the >> most efficient hydrogen production with >> the least >> undesirable output >> material. >> >> Super >> high temperature operating regime was >> chosen to be >> above 2500 C for the purpose of >> producing atomic >> hydrogen in the process. >> The original >> reactor operated at temperatures that >> easily >> gasified basic carbon into a plasma >> state >> (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the >> production >> of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed >> stock >> ratios. >> >> >> >> >> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and >> paid for my >> 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. >> lab the do the >> Prototype machining and Proof of Concept >> testing for >> GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million >> investment and >> they got the rights to the process and I got >> the >> beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I >> was a self >> employed Contractor in Dallas working with >> HVAC, >> Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so >> had to commute >> 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for >> my time! >> Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 >> acres took all >> my time and when I suffered a neck fracture >> in 2012, had >> to retire. Liquidated the entire facility >> and sold it >> off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana >> where I now >> do a lot of relaxing and fishing! >> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel >> so now I >> will just contribute to the dialog inorder >> to assist any >> research you may be doing within my area of >> experitise! BTW! I have been out to >> pasture for a >> long time now, so no BULL offense! As >> Hector knows, "It >> fits"! Lol >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol >> Hat when you >> come visit from PR! Lol >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On >> 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> By the way ... i can hit mega millions >> or the power >> ball . i never will not have a lab i >> can work in, >> that is worst than death , you have no >> idea of the >> technology that had being lost by the >> greedy fucking >> bastards fucking my life , they will >> loose all they >> have "soon" because it had >> being engineered that >> way by accumulative bad karma, i have >> another lab >> they will never reach or be able to >> intercept or >> destroy and that will decide their fate >> ..... they >> will be fucked hard ! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> (H) >> >> >> >> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, >> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> >> wrote : >> >> >> >> >> >> Cmon Hector, >> Bad taste! >> >> >> The man had a more serious lab than >> anyone else >> here and his work speaks for itself. >> Maybe he has >> gained the fortune he desired through >> R&D and >> now shitting in tall cotton or gone >> fishing >> reaping the rewards of retirement. >> Notwithstanding >> is still kind enough to help point us >> in the right >> directions around here. >> "Funny–I >> can look back on a life >> of >> achievement, on >> challenges met, >> competitors bested, >> obstacles >> overcome. I’ve >> accomplished more >> than most men, and >> without the use >> of my legs. What?What >> makes a man, >> Mr. >> Lebowski?" >> >> >> On >> 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... >> [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dar n ! a Scientist inventor >> with no lab >> is like a breeding bull with >> no balls ! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, >> <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> >> wrote : >> >> >> >> >> Jacob! You asked me a >> question and I >> gave you my opinion! >> I'm totally >> retired at 80 years old >> and have no >> lab to experiment in! >> Your quote; I >> heard once a phrase from a >> researcher >> who said. '' Slow >> down boy, we get >> paid for llooking for >> solutions, not >> to find >> them!'' That certainly does >> not apply to me for I have >> shared all >> with the folks on this >> site. I find >> you statement very >> interesting: >> Technics that use up 10 % >> of a magnet >> in 24 hours with usual >> amount of gas >> looks to me extremely >> inefficient. >> ?????? Care >> to share where you >> saw the power of a >> permanent magnet >> being used up! We all >> here on this >> site share what ever >> knowledge we have >> on the various subjects >> not seeking >> any monetary gain in any >> way! That is >> my approach! I just >> contribute to >> the dialog when I run >> across something >> interesting and think it >> will assist >> you guys! Norm >> >> >> >> >> On >> 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob >> Wall wall_jakob@... >> [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks Norman, >> >> But i actually >> asced for >> ''most >> efficient way'' to >> split water known >> to you! >> >> I realize there >> are a lot of >> different >> technigues to do >> just that. >> >> And yes i realize >> you could >> give me a rather >> complex >> answer. But >> instead i hope for >> a >> >> rather easy and >> reproductive >> answer since i am >> looking >> forward to solve >> my enerrgy >> >> problems i just >> can not live >> with the momentary >> (sad and >> very stupid energy >> situation) >> >> I am still not >> giving up >> becouse of a >> couple mistakes >> and >> misunderstandings. >> >> If i would be a >> car dealer and >> you would ask me >> for a most >> efficient car >> available on the >> market >> >> i would for sure >> not recommend >> a Prius, since >> there are a lot >> of cars with >> better fuel >> economie >> >> even without being >> a hybrid >> and without >> additional cost >> like >> batterys,e-motors and a >> bunch added >> ECU's >> >> >> >> Technics that use >> up 10 % of a >> magnet in 24 hours >> with usual >> amount of gas >> looks to me >> extremely >> >> inefficient. >> >> Also very >> expensive HHO-Garage >> products with >> output of 1,6 >> ltr/min. >> >> Come on, 6 rusty >> nails and a >> old car batery >> does this job, >> no need to spend >> 1600 bucks on >> it. >> >> I honestly >> expected solide >> advise or a honest >> NO way boy, >> i just talking >> around. >> >> >> >> I heard once a >> phrase from a >> researcher who >> said. '' Slow >> down boy, we get >> paid for >> llooking for >> >> solutions, not to >> find them!'' >> That shoked me >> deeply and even >> if i get 150 years >> old, i will >> not forget it. >> >> Thats true treason >> on mankind >> and deciving the >> people. I >> really hope nobody >> on this >> forum only care >> >> >> about what he/she >> will be >> doing tomorrow. >> >> >> >> Jakob >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ -------------- >> >> On Sun, 10/28/18, >> Norman >> Wootan nwootan@... >> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: Fwd: >> Fwd: Re: >> [EVGRAY] >> Norm's Magnetic >> Battery >> >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, >> "Bert >> Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, >> "Bob >> Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>, >> "joel >> mcclain" <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, >> "Jon >> Gentry" <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>, >> >> "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>, >> "Toby >> Grotz" <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>, >> "Phil >> Rembold" <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, >> "Angel >> Alvarez" <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, >> "Fredric >> Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...> >> >> Received: Sunday, >> October 28, >> 2018, 9:44 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jacob! That >> would be a rather >> complex answer >> >> but here is >> your >> >> starting point! >> >> https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct- thermomagnetic-splitting-of- >> water-.html >> <https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html> >> >> >> After having been >> heavily >> involved in the >> COLD FUSION >> >> Research >> >> back in the 70s >> and 80s I >> quickly settled >> o0n the best >> >> catalyst in >> >> electrolytic cells >> which is >> pure nickel. I >> still have >> >> the cell >> >> used in the >> Elemental >> Replication >> experiments. >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.rexresearch.com/ gunnrman/gunnrman.htm >> <http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm> >> >> The hidden >> >> part of this >> research is the >> use of a nickel >> component >> >> in the >> >> combustion >> chamber. Bosch >> developed 90,000V >> ignition >> >> systems to >> >> enable water >> injection in gas >> engine which >> high >> >> lighted the >> >> Graneau HV >> decomposition of >> water via HVDC >> >> discharge! >> >> My magnetic >> Battery when run >> as an electrolytic >> cell >> >> to produce >> >> hydrogen does >> produce a huge >> amount of hydrogen >> gas as >> >> shown by >> >> the Dr. Ehrenhaft >> document. I >> would tell you >> to >> >> pursue the >> super >> >> high Tesla >> magnetic flux and >> nickel electrodes >> in an >> >> electrolytic >> >> cell. The major >> obstacle to >> be overcome is the >> rapid >> >> collection >> >> of ions from >> solution by the >> 1.3 Tesla flux >> across a >> >> .020" >> >> mechanical gap >> which quickly >> takes the cell >> into a >> >> super-conduction >> mode which >> takes out the >> driving DC >> >> power supply. >> >> You can flush the >> magnetic >> gaps with >> distilled water >> >> and the gaps >> >> will show in the >> meg-ohm range >> then go to zero >> ohms >> >> after a short >> >> period of running, >> the >> gathered ions >> totally short >> >> cell. During >> >> the brief runs >> there is a huge >> amount of hydrogen >> gas >> >> produced >> >> which I burned off >> as it was >> generated. Much >> can be >> >> said about >> >> driving the cell >> with high >> frequencies as the >> Myers >> >> research >> >> showed. Our >> friend up in >> Canada at George >> Wiseman, >> >> Eagle Research >> >> is running well >> ahead of the >> crowd on the >> production >> >> of H-H-O. >> >> Just for >> giggles! >> >> >> >> >> >> 16 October >> >> 1996 >> >> To: Hal >> >> Fox, Fusion >> Facts >> >> Elemental >> >> Replication ? >> >> >> >> Around >> mid >> >> September >> >> I put together >> an >> >> electrolysis cell >> similar to >> the Miles Nickel >> Cold >> >> Fusion Cell >> >> with the goal >> of >> >> exploring the >> possibilities of >> making what is >> >> termed >> “Pristine >> >> Water”. This >> water >> >> which will be used >> by >> Homeopaths >> >> will have had all >> memory or >> information >> >> removed. This is >> accomplished >> by >> >> recombining >> monatomic >> >> hydrogen and >> monatomic oxygen >> as generated in >> a >> >> properly >> >> designed cell. >> This is >> >> the ultimate in >> purity since >> this is >> >> water with >> conditions at the >> time of >> original >> >> creation. >> “Holly Water”is a >> term >> >> coined by my >> dear >> >> friend and fellow >> researcher >> Joe Tyls of >> >> Vancouver, BC. >> After several >> weeks of >> >> successful >> operation >> >> producing water >> that had all >> the earmarks of >> a >> >> true >> “pristine >> >> water” a >> fellow >> >> researcher >> suggested using an >> alternate >> >> electrolyte. A >> solution was >> selected >> >> that contained >> 77 >> >> colloidal minerals >> as found in >> plants that are >> the >> >> easiest >> >> assimilated into >> the >> >> body. With >> the >> >> electrolyte >> changed the >> >> cell was put back >> into >> operation as >> before with a >> >> nice >> >> recombination burn >> and >> >> production of the >> sought after >> “pristine >> >> water”. >> >> >> >> After about >> an >> >> hour of >> >> operation the >> cell >> >> went absolutely >> “nuts” with >> the temperature >> >> rapidly >> climbing >> >> to boiling >> point >> >> and the current >> out of sight. >> >> When the >> >> cell was opened we >> found a >> deep red sludge >> deposit >> >> which >> >> shorted the >> cell >> >> plates. Our >> first >> >> thought was that >> the >> >> electrolytic >> action >> precipitated out >> the colloidal >> >> minerals >> >> which caused >> the >> >> deposit found. >> The >> >> electrolyte was >> allowed >> >> to settle out >> the >> >> precipitate. >> After >> >> decanting off, >> the clear >> electrolyte >> >> was >> >> returned to the >> >> cell for another >> run. Again >> the cell >> operated >> >> normally for >> >> about an hour with >> a >> >> normal >> recombination burn and >> recovery of the >> >> water being >> >> consumed by the >> cell >> >> in the splitting >> action. >> Again >> >> the cell >> >> temperature and >> current >> mirrored the >> first >> >> run. >> >> Again the cell >> contained the >> same amount of >> >> sludge >> >> residue. This >> process >> >> was repeated ten >> (10) times >> >> with exactly the >> same >> results. >> >> All of >> >> the sludge was >> carefully dried >> and weighed on >> an >> >> electronic >> >> scale with a >> five >> >> decimal >> >> resolution. >> >> The cell plates >> and all >> hardware were >> >> weighed to >> >> determine any loss >> of >> >> mass that may >> contribute to >> the mass gain >> observed >> >> in the >> >> sludge. Five >> hundred >> >> (500) ml of the >> original >> >> electrolyte >> solution used in >> the cell was >> vacuum >> >> distilled to >> >> determine the >> >> exact mass of >> colloidal >> minerals >> >> contained. >> >> When all factors >> were >> considered we >> came >> >> out with a >> >> mass gain of 48 >> gm >> >> which cannot be >> explained by >> >> conventional >> >> electrolysis. >> >> >> >> After >> talking >> >> to Dr. >> >> Robert Bass and >> Hal >> >> Fox I learned of a >> patent that >> has been filed >> on >> >> the >> >> transmutation of >> elements >> >> in the cold fusion >> cell which >> is the process >> that >> >> Dr. John >> >> Bockris has been >> so >> >> active in. >> Both Dr. >> >> Bass and Hal >> Fox >> >> stated that what I >> was >> observing is not >> the same >> >> as the >> >> transmutation >> observed >> >> in the cold fusion >> cell since >> I have a >> overall >> >> mass gain and >> >> not a lateral >> >> movement of >> elements in the >> periodic table >> toward >> >> lighter >> >> elements with a >> >> resulting heat >> release. This >> >> unusual >> >> cell operation has >> caused >> quite a reaction >> in the >> >> scientific >> >> community. At >> this >> >> time I have built >> a complete >> new cell >> >> with every >> possible factor >> which could >> possibly >> >> explain the >> >> mass gain >> >> considered and >> documented. >> The >> >> ten (10) >> >> consecutive runs >> on the new >> cell will be >> completed >> >> soon and a >> >> report will be >> >> forthcoming. >> What is >> >> interesting >> about >> >> this phenomenon is >> that when >> an eleventh run >> was >> >> made with the >> >> original >> >> electrolyte >> exactly the same >> amount of residue >> was >> >> recovered >> >> as in the >> previous >> >> ten >> >> runs. >> >> >> >> >> >> Since >> >> the same >> electrolyte is reused >> each time with >> only >> >> distilled >> >> water being >> added >> >> to replace the >> volume lost by >> the removal of >> the >> >> solids and >> >> the water >> recovered >> >> by the >> recombination burn we >> are hard pressed >> to >> >> explain the >> >> observed >> >> >> phenomenon. The >> >> electrolyte >> appears >> >> stronger in >> mineral >> concentration and >> shows no >> >> sign of >> >> >> >> depletion. >> >> >> >> After >> conferring >> >> with >> >> Joe Tyls we >> arrived at >> >> the conclusion >> that the 77 >> colloidal >> minerals >> >> contained in >> the >> >> electrolyte >> >> provide the atomic >> templates >> needed for the >> >> monatomic >> hydrogen >> >> (father of all >> >> the elements) to >> replicate >> selected elements >> in >> >> this exotic >> >> mixture. If >> you >> >> subscribe to the >> theories of >> the late >> >> Walter Russell and >> his >> explanation of the >> octave >> >> based >> >> periodic table >> with >> >> monatonic hydrogen >> being what >> he describes as >> >> hydrons >> >> (precursor to >> hydrogen) >> >> then it is >> possible for the >> replication of >> >> elements >> directly >> >> from energy >> input >> >> alone. This is >> how all >> >> matter was >> >> created in the >> beginning as >> described by >> >> Schappeller in >> “The >> >> Physics of the >> >> Primary State of >> Matter”. I >> >> will keep >> >> all informed as to >> our >> progress and >> findings in >> >> this very >> >> intriguing >> venture. >> >> >> >> Norman >> >> Wootan >> >> P.O. >> >> Box 141049 >> >> Dallas, >> >> TX 75214 >> >> (214) >> >> 360-0865 >> >> >> >> >> >> CC: Gene >> Mallove, >> >> Infinite >> >> Energy >> >> CC: Dr. John >> >> Bockris, Texas >> >> A/M >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/28/2018 1:01 >> AM, >> >> Jakob Wall >> >> wall_jakob@... >> >> [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks Norman, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> BTW, what is the >> most >> effective water >> split >> >> device that >> >> you ever put you >> hands on? >> >> >> >> As HHO researcher >> for dekades >> you should be >> >> able to point >> >> us directly to the >> most >> effective >> known! >> >> >> >> Please be specific >> about >> reconstruction of >> the >> >> same, since >> >> we are in public >> domain it >> will become >> public >> >> knowledge >> >> and public good. I >> assume you >> intend nothing >> >> else,rigth ? >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ -------------- >> >> >> >> On Sat, 10/27/18, >> Norman >> Wootan nwootan@... >> >> [EVGRAY] >> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: Fwd: >> Fwd: Re: >> [EVGRAY] >> Norm's >> >> Magnetic >> >> Battery [3 >> Attachments] >> >> >> >> To: "Bert >> Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, >> >> "Bob >> >> Paddock" <bob.paddock@....> <mailto:bob.paddock@....>, >> >> "joel >> mcclain" >> >> <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, >> >> "Jon >> Gentry" >> >> <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>, >> >> "Lane >> Wootan" >> >> <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>, >> >> >> "Mbking42" >> >> <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>, >> >> "Toby >> Grotz" >> >> <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>, >> >> "Phil >> Rembold" >> >> <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, >> >> "Angel >> Alvarez" >> >> <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, >> >> "Fredric >> Fletcher" >> >> <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>, >> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> >> >> To understand the >> unwinding of >> a thread >> >> leading >> >> >> >> to Magnetic >> >> >> >> Generating >> Hydrogen and this >> Magnetic >> Battery, >> >> we have >> >> >> >> to dust off >> >> >> >> our 9th grade >> Chemistry >> Books! >> >> >> >> http://www.rexresearch.com/ ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm >> <http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm> >> >> >> >> I guess Dr. >> >> >> >> Ehrenhaft was the >> first to >> propose a >> Magnetic >> >> Current. >> >> >> >> (Jon >> >> >> >> Gentry, Your >> liquid metal >> vortex helix). >> >> >> >> https://revolution-green.com/ can-electrolysis-powered- >> magnets/ >> <https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/> >> >> >> >> Ah! Ha! more on >> Magnetic >> Currents!!! >> >> >> >> https://sciencing.com/ magnetic-properties-hydrogen- >> 7648446.html >> <https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html> >> >> >> >> https://www.labmanager.com/ white-papers-and-application- >> notes/2010/05/resistivity- conductivity-measurement-of- >> purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w >> <https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w> >> >> >> >> https://www.askiitians.com/ forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/ >> 19074/electro-che >> <https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che> >> >> >> >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Overpotential >> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential> >> >> >> >> https://www.quora.com/Why-is- oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic- >> although-it-does-not-contain- any-unpaired-electron >> <https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron> >> >> >> >> https://www.researchgate.net/ publication/251580541_The_ >> effect_of_magnetic_force_on_ hydrogen_production_ >> efficiency_in_water_ electrolysis >> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis> >> >> >> >> http://www.physicscentral.com/ experiment/physicsathome/ >> electricwhirlpool.cfm >> <http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm> >> >> >> >> http://www.linux-host.org/ energy/bmagpump.htm >> <http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm> >> >> >> >> Now Jon Gentry you >> have your >> liquid metal >> pump >> >> so >> >> >> >> that you can >> >> >> >> make the helix >> tube Vortex! >> >> Ferricpetacarbonyl >> or >> >> >> >> micro fine neo >> >> >> >> powder to provide >> the liquid >> metal for pump >> >> >> >> circuit. >> >> >> >> Lots of reading >> here! >> Please think >> >> about the >> >> >> >> ramifications >> of >> >> >> >> a Magnetic Current >> as proposed >> by Dr. >> >> Ehrenhaft >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Posted by: Jakob Wall <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Reply via web post >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/conversations/messages/109175;_ylc=X3oDMTJyZjVzN3IwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDM0MjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgzNjYzBG1zZ0lkAzEwOTE3NQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1NDE2Mjc4MjM-?act=reply&messageNum=109175> >> • Reply to sender >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Fwd%3A%20Fwd%3A%20Re%3A%20%5BEVGRAY%5D%20Norm%27s%20Magnetic%20Battery%20%5B2%20Attachments%5D> >> • Reply to group >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Fwd%3A%20Fwd%3A%20Re%3A%20%5BEVGRAY%5D%20Norm%27s%20Magnetic%20Battery%20%5B2%20Attachments%5D> >> • Start a New Topic >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJla20zdnYxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDM0MjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgzNjYzBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTU0MTYyNzgyMw--> >> • Messages in this topic >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/conversations/topics/109074;_ylc=X3oDMTM4dGswYmc3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDM0MjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgzNjYzBG1zZ0lkAzEwOTE3NQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1NDE2Mjc4MjMEdHBjSWQDMTA5MDc0> >> (22) >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Check out the automatic photo album with 16 photo(s) >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/photos/photomatic/1340257782;_ylc=X3oDMTE4M3R1OW82BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGNmOQNQSE9UT01BVElDBHNlYwNtZWdhcGhvbmU-> >> from this topic. >> lpiihnonflfdegmn.png bdafpkagogdidkkg.png >> lhkdpfhpenemopnf.png lpiihnonflfdegmn.png >> lhkdpfhpenemopnf.png >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/photos/photomatic/1340257782;_ylc=X3oDMTE4M3R1OW82BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGNmOQNQSE9UT01BVElDBHNlYwNtZWdhcGhvbmU-> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >
[14/14] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
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Hi NormYup! Those wind turbines sure are ugly suckers to look at over the landscape.I'm glad my neighbours don't subscribe to them.At least solar panels are less intrusively ugly.Ainslie's circuit needs a review.Aaron had good luck with it, and did a nice clear video.The negative spike harvest of the differential seems interesting, as we keep running across it again, and again.Cheers Warren Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 at 6:05 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: Warren! I was really interested in the Ainslie Theory but had no success with it! What I find interesting is the huge investment in the wind turbine Industry. (Going after big Government $ grants). My son is an AUV Engineer doing the ocean floor Geophysical work for locating the foundation spots for these turbines. They completed the Martha Vinyard site last year and now are working out of Elizabeth City, NJ doing foundations for 250 turbines in the NYC harbor sound! I see a lot of totally abandoned wind turbines around the world just gathering dust since it is too expensive to tear down and remove them???? On 11/8/2018 7:43 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: Norman For my part, in my thinking, Rosemary Ainslie, a physicist, at a university in South Africa, has a nice little circuit she has made to prove her theory. It has been replicated by several experimenters, as there are plenty of youtube videos, a few, full of nasty muck raking bullshit, for some reason. I have spoken with her on the phone, and in emails over the years. She is the real deal, a modest, and straight forward scientist, giving her work to the World. It is a little circuit that makes 17 X the input electricity as resistance heat. I have purchased the transistors she has been using, a somewhat obscure, almost obsolete product. I got mine from Texas. If I am able to get it going, a little later as the ow flies, here in Canada, I want to feed the product into the electric hot water heater, that at present, is only used as a header tank for the heat pump system. It uses 220 volts, and has resistance elements. What the hell, Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 6:29 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: Jakob Wall, maybe the Old Tried and Tested over time wood gas technology would be best for you! Very simple and I built one to run a 5KW generator and it worked . This technology has been around since civilization first saw an underground coal seam burning without atmospheric oxygen. The burning coal converts ground water into carbon monoxide and hydrogen and is self sustaining for many years. Start by reading the history and applications. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator http://www.edina.eu/gas-generators/applications/non-conventional-gas/syngas/ See: attachment! During the development of my Hydrogen Vortex Reactor, I questioned the academic answer as to temperature that water vapor would break down into hydrogen and oxygen. After talking to a lot of very experienced fire fighters, the consensus was that if you spray water into a fire that is visibly WHITE HOT, the water will exacerbate the situation because you have entered the region of threshold dissociation of water vapor into hydrogen. Think about how an ordinary magnesium flare can burn underwater. Simple fact is that the magnesium burns so hot that the flame is self sustaining from the water. Happy building! Jakob. BTW! I build a wood gas generator from a heavy duty clamp top type 55 gal steel drum lined with fire brick and used leaves straw and wood chips as fuel feed stock. A water ash scrubber stage will give you clean syn-gas to run your generator. On 11/7/2018 5:57 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: Bingo fuel is a good way to run a motor but the carbon rods you either have to buy them or make them to make the get any carbon source to make biochar once made grind up dry and add molasses to make past fill tube like copper or steel heat to red hot and aply 500 volts till cool .experimenting is nessary to get the voltage lower and the set up just right ...found information in a very old patent .but if you persevere you got it .now the problem is a constant cheap Carbon source ..dryed grass clippings to old wood pallets .no ash as in gasogen .clean and you can use them for electrodes or welding rods for cutting steel of a extream spot light like in concentration camps . On Wednesday, November 7, 2018, Jakob Wall [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks guys, some of that looks feasible. ------------------------------ -------------- On Wed, 11/7/18, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments] To: [email protected] Received: Wednesday, November 7, Jakob, You may also have a look at this as it's a less complex version incorporating a couple of Norms findings allegedly allowing for enough power to run internal combustion engines from water and a carbon arc. The name is funny as it's a pun from the lexicon of a pilot one never wants to hear from the cockpit. If the pilot says bingofuel to ATC that means he thinks he may have just enough fuel to the drop to land the plane so clear me for a runway and get the emergency crews there. http://bingofuel.online.fr/ bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote: Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab. Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with. See: https://patents.google.com/ patent/US7097676B2/en . There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of cheap energy. In addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on. https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_ water_will_decompose_to_ Oxygen_and_Hydrogen https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen- and-hydrogen-at-high- temperatures-If-so-then-at- what-temperature https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into- hydrogen-and-oxygen-using- electrolysis-with-one- kilowatt-hour-of-electricity http://www.redrok.com/ hion96a1.htm https://www.nature.com/ articles/nplants201741 Please read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Water_splitting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Decarboxylation https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water- splitting-catalyst.html https://www. scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could- split-water-cheaply/ https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to- make-hydrogen-from-water/ "SUPER STEAM - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings." For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2 Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame) This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record". Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred. I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp globes. After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead. A side note is needed here! The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI. Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil. The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: https://patents.google.com/ patent/US7097676B2/en (6C + 12 H2O = 6CO2 + 24H) Hydrogen Reactor Development Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock. This unit was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation. This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine. To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, reactor design took on a radical change. By incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one stage of operation. Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form. Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material. Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process. The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios. I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing! Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be doing within my area of experitise! BTW! I have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense! As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit from PR! Lol On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball . i never will not have a lab i can work in, that is worst than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard ! (H) ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote : Cmon Hector, Bad taste! The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself. Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here. "Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?" On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote: Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls ! ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote : Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion! I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in! Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!'' That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site. I find you statement very interesting: Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient. ?????? Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up! We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach! I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys! Norm On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... [EVGRAY] wrote: Thanks Norman, But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you! I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that. And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation) I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings. If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient. Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min. Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it. I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around. I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it. Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care about what he/she will be doing tomorrow. Jakob ------------------------------ -------------- On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery To: [email protected], "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM Jacob! That would be a rather complex answer but here is your starting point! https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of- water-.html After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION Research back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best catalyst in electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have the cell used in the Elemental Replication experiments. http://www.rexresearch.com/ gunnrman/gunnrman.htm The hidden part of this research is the use of a nickel component in the combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition systems to enable water injection in gas engine which high lighted the Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC discharge! My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell to produce hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as shown by the Dr. Ehrenhaft document. I would tell you to pursue the super high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an electrolytic cell. The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid collection of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a .020" mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC power supply. You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water and the gaps will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms after a short period of running, the gathered ions totally short cell. During the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas produced which I burned off as it was generated. Much can be said about driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers research showed. Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman, Eagle Research is running well ahead of the crowd on the production of H-H-O. Just for giggles! 16 October 1996 To: Hal Fox, Fusion Facts Elemental Replication ? Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the possibilities of making what is termed “Pristine Water”. This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information removed. This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell. This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at the time of original creation. “Holly Water”is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC. After several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a true “pristine water” a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate electrolyte. A solution was selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest assimilated into the body. With the electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after “pristine water”. After about an hour of operation the cell went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature rapidly climbing to boiling point and the current out of sight. When the cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit which shorted the cell plates. Our first thought was that the electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal minerals which caused the deposit found. The electrolyte was allowed to settle out the precipitate. After decanting off, the clear electrolyte was returned to the cell for another run. Again the cell operated normally for about an hour with a normal recombination burn and recovery of the water being consumed by the cell in the splitting action. Again the cell temperature and current mirrored the first run. Again the cell contained the same amount of sludge residue. This process was repeated ten (10) times with exactly the same results. All of the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an electronic scale with a five decimal resolution. The cell plates and all hardware were weighed to determine any loss of mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed in the sludge. Five hundred (500) ml of the original electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum distilled to determine the exact mass of colloidal minerals contained. When all factors were considered we came out with a mass gain of 48 gm which cannot be explained by conventional electrolysis. After talking to Dr. Robert Bass and Hal Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on the transmutation of elements in the cold fusion cell which is the process that Dr. John Bockris has been so active in. Both Dr. Bass and Hal Fox stated that what I was observing is not the same as the transmutation observed in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall mass gain and not a lateral movement of elements in the periodic table toward lighter elements with a resulting heat release. This unusual cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the scientific community. At this time I have built a complete new cell with every possible factor which could possibly explain the mass gain considered and documented. The ten (10) consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed soon and a report will be forthcoming. What is interesting about this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was made with the original electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was recovered as in the previous ten runs. Since the same electrolyte is reused each time with only distilled water being added to replace the volume lost by the removal of the solids and the water recovered by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to explain the observed phenomenon. The electrolyte appears stronger in mineral concentration and shows no sign of depletion. After conferring with Joe Tyls we arrived at the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals contained in the electrolyte provide the atomic templates needed for the monatomic hydrogen (father of all the elements) to replicate selected elements in this exotic mixture. If you subscribe to the theories of the late Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave based periodic table with monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as hydrons (precursor to hydrogen) then it is possible for the replication of elements directly from energy input alone. This is how all matter was created in the beginning as described by Schappeller in “The Physics of the Primary State of Matter”. I will keep all informed as to our progress and findings in this very intriguing venture. Norman Wootan P.O. Box 141049 Dallas, TX 75214 (214) 360-0865 CC: Gene Mallove, Infinite Energy CC: Dr. John Bockris, Texas A/M On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... [EVGRAY] wrote: Thanks Norman, BTW, what is the most effective water split device that you ever put you hands on? As HHO researcher for dekades you should be able to point us directly to the most effective known! Please be specific about reconstruction of the same, since we are in public domain it will become public knowledge and public good. I assume you intend nothing else,rigth ? ------------------------------ -------------- On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [3 Attachments] To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@....>, "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>, "Lane Wootan" <lanewootan@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...>, [email protected] To understand the unwinding of a thread leading to Magnetic Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery, we have to dust off our 9th grade Chemistry Books! http://www.rexresearch.com/ ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm I guess Dr. Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic Current. (Jon Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix). https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered- magnets/ Ah! Ha! more on Magnetic Currents!!! https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen- 7648446.html https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application- notes/2010/05/resistivity- conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/ 19074/electro-che https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Overpotential https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic- although-it-does-not-contain- any-unpaired-electron https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_ effect_of_magnetic_force_on_ hydrogen_production_ efficiency_in_water_ electrolysis http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/ electricwhirlpool.cfm http://www.linux-host.org/ energy/bmagpump.htm Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump so that you can make the helix tube Vortex! Ferricpetacarbonyl or micro fine neo powder to provide the liquid metal for pump circuit. Lots of reading here! 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