Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery

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Warren,

That is an interesting circuit and it seems to take advantage of a
semiconductors avalanche mode.  I have seen some very interesting power
gains from this function of a semiconductor and Ole proposed using the
mode in order to make something over unity that is not fussy about the
tuning.

Some of the devices that use a rotational field use harmonics so as to
get rotational speeds beyond the frequency of the devices.  Like the
push on the swing set but rather than a swing a vortex with multiple
points of energy input.  Most transistors have a limit of a few mHz.  I
do not know what the speed of the vortex has to be to enter the
relativistic area in which the time stream becomes bent enough but
figure it is way up there.


On 11/8/2018 5:43 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Norman
>
> For my part, in my thinking, Rosemary Ainslie, a physicist, at a
> university in South Africa, has a nice little circuit she has made to
> prove her theory.
> It has been replicated by several experimenters, as there are plenty
> of youtube videos, a few, full of nasty muck raking bullshit, for some
> reason.
> I have spoken with her on the phone, and in emails over the years.
> She is the real deal, a modest, and straight forward scientist, giving
> her work to the World.
> It is a little circuit that makes 17 X the input electricity as
> resistance heat.
> I have purchased the transistors she has been using, a somewhat
> obscure, almost obsolete product.
> I got mine from Texas.
> If I am able to get it going, a little later as the ow flies, here in
> Canada, I want to feed the product into the electric hot water heater,
> that at present, is only used as a header tank for the heat pump
> system.. It uses 220 volts, and has resistance elements. What the hell,
>
>
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>
>     On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 6:29 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>      
>
>     Jakob Wall, maybe the Old Tried and Tested over time wood gas
>     technology would be best for you!  Very simple and I built one to
>     run a 5KW generator and it worked .   This technology has been
>     around since civilization first saw an underground coal seam
>     burning without atmospheric oxygen. The burning coal converts
>     ground water into carbon monoxide and hydrogen and is self
>     sustaining for many years. Start by reading the history and
>     applications. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator
>
>     http://www.edina.eu/gas-generators/applications/non-conventional-gas/syngas/
>
>     See: attachment!
>
>     During the development of my Hydrogen Vortex Reactor, I questioned
>     the academic answer as to temperature that water vapor would break
>     down into hydrogen and oxygen. After talking to a lot of very
>     experienced fire fighters, the consensus was that if you spray
>     water into a fire that is visibly WHITE HOT, the water will
>     exacerbate the situation because you have entered the region of
>     threshold dissociation of water vapor into hydrogen. Think about
>     how an ordinary magnesium flare can burn underwater.  Simple fact
>     is that the magnesium burns so hot that the flame is self
>     sustaining from the water.  Happy building! Jakob.  BTW! I build a
>     wood gas generator from a heavy duty clamp top type 55 gal steel
>     drum lined with fire brick and used leaves straw and wood chips as
>     fuel feed stock. A water ash scrubber stage will give you clean
>     syn-gas to run your generator.
>
>     On 11/7/2018 5:57 PM, James Glinski [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>      
>>
>>     Bingo fuel is a good way to run a motor but the carbon rods you
>>     either have to buy them or make them to make the get any carbon
>>     source to make biochar once made grind up dry and add molasses to
>>     make past fill tube like copper or steel heat to red hot and aply
>>     500 volts till cool .experimenting is nessary to get the voltage
>>     lower and the set up just right ...found information in a very
>>     old patent .but if you persevere you got it .now the problem is a
>>     constant cheap Carbon source ..dryed grass clippings to old wood
>>     pallets .no ash as in gasogen .clean and you can use them for
>>     electrodes or welding rods for cutting steel of a extream spot
>>     light like in concentration camps .
>>
>>
>>     On Wednesday, November 7, 2018, Jakob Wall [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>          
>>
>>         Thanks guys, some of that looks feasible.
>>
>>         ------------------------------ --------------
>>         On Wed, 11/7/18, Mick [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>         [2 Attachments]
>>         To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>         Received: Wednesday, November 7, Jakob,
>>         You may also have a look at this as it's a less
>>         complex version
>>         incorporating a couple of Norms findings allegedly
>>         allowing for
>>         enough power to run internal combustion engines from
>>         water and a
>>         carbon arc.  The name is funny as it's a pun from
>>         the lexicon of a
>>         pilot one never wants to hear from the cockpit.  If
>>         the pilot says
>>         bingofuel to ATC that means he thinks he may have just
>>         enough fuel
>>         to the drop to land the plane so clear me for a runway
>>         and get the
>>         emergency crews there.
>>
>>         http://bingofuel.online.fr/ bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm
>>         <http://bingofuel.online.fr/bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM,
>>         Norman Wootan
>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>          
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On
>>         11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman
>>         Wootan wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>         Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on
>>         here need to
>>         read the Whole Story as to why I no longer
>>         have a
>>         research lab.  Jakob, I'm sorry I did
>>         not reveal to you
>>         the BEST in my opinion of methods of
>>         producing hydrogen
>>         gas for I felt it was a little too advanced
>>         and
>>         difficult for you to experiment with.  See:
>>         https://patents.google.com/ patent/US7097676B2/en
>>         <https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en>
>>         .   There is a very long story behind this
>>         US Patent and
>>         a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a
>>         very
>>         inexpensive method of splitting water has
>>         been the Holy
>>         Grail of  cheap energy.   In addition to
>>         the research
>>         papers and links that I gave to you, here
>>         are some more
>>         to dwell on.
>>         https://www.researchgate.net/ post/At_what_temperature_
>>         water_will_decompose_to_ Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>         <https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen>
>>         https://www.quora.com/Does- water-break-down-into-oxygen-
>>         and-hydrogen-at-high- temperatures-If-so-then-at-
>>         what-temperature
>>         <https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature>
>>         https://www.quora.com/How- much-water-can-you-split-into-
>>         hydrogen-and-oxygen-using- electrolysis-with-one-
>>         kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>         <https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity>
>>         http://www.redrok.com/ hion96a1.htm
>>         <http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm>
>>         https://www.nature.com/ articles/nplants201741
>>         <https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741>  
>>         Please read carefully about the play of
>>         Nickel in this
>>         approach!
>>
>>
>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Water_splitting
>>         <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting>
>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction
>>         <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction>    
>>         I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs,
>>         AR where
>>         they still had the old water gas generator
>>         and gas
>>         storage facility.
>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Decarboxylation
>>         <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation>
>>         https://phys.org/news/2018-02- uncovers-mechanism-water-
>>         splitting-catalyst.html
>>         <https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html>
>>         https://www. scientificamerican.com/
>>         article/new-catalyst-could- split-water-cheaply/
>>         <https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/>
>>         https://www.technologyreview. com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-
>>         make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>         <https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/>
>>         "SUPER STEAM - A Tesla
>>         conference in Colorado
>>         surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST).
>>         Leonard
>>         Dorsett and friends from Texas share
>>         strikingly similar
>>         views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have
>>         technology which
>>         produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F
>>         without a
>>         boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over
>>         traditional
>>         boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out
>>         gasoline fires
>>         and treat many waste problems. Of major
>>         importance to
>>         Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help
>>         to produce
>>         heat and Aquastone at considerable
>>         savings."
>>
>>
>>
>>         For further information on Aquarian Agency
>>         Ltd. they can
>>         be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon,
>>         <https://maps.google.com/?q=38+Weir+Rd,+Wimbledon,+%0D%0A+London+SW19&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>         London SW19 SUG,
>>         England or on Internet at <aquarian
>>         ocign.ape.org <http://ocign.ape.org>>. SUPER STEAM
>>         TECHNOLOGY PART 2
>>
>>
>>
>>         Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX
>>         76092)
>>         demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at
>>         the 1994
>>         International Tesla Symposium. SST is a
>>         system for
>>         producing steam at any temperature or
>>         pressure
>>         independently and instantly without the need
>>         for a
>>         conventional boiler. It can instantly
>>         produce steam of
>>         any temperature from hot water at 180F to
>>         super heated
>>         steam at over 3000F, while pressures can
>>         vary from 1PSI
>>         to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up
>>         to over
>>         2000CFM. The system operates on propane,
>>         methane,
>>         petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen
>>         or just
>>         about anything else that bums and converts
>>         virtually
>>         100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note:
>>         The person
>>         in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA
>>         fame)
>>
>>
>>
>>         This all sounds great, but how does it work?
>>         The basis
>>         of the unit is a specially designed open
>>         throat chamber
>>         with controlled air, water and fuel
>>         interaction and a
>>         high voltage ignition resulting in a direct
>>         fire process
>>         establishing thermal zones. This creates a
>>         stoichiometric condition resulting in a full
>>         spectrum of
>>         steam product. Now comes the interesting
>>         part At the
>>         increased temperatures of steam,
>>         disassociation occurs.
>>         (Could this be a clue to running cars on
>>         water??) The
>>         hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an
>>         exponential
>>         increase of energy resulting in super heated
>>         steam. A
>>         similar superheat process was addressed by
>>         Tesla in the
>>         October 12, 1911 publication of the
>>         "Engineering News
>>         Record".
>>
>>
>>
>>         Applications of the SST system include a
>>         much more
>>         economical way of producing electricity as
>>         no
>>         conventional boiler is needed. It will also
>>         be an ideal
>>         low cost method for heating and cooling
>>         homes and
>>         businesses. Small portable units can be
>>         developed for
>>         home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect
>>         and ant
>>         removal, without the dangers of
>>         insecticides. The system
>>         can also be used for low cost purification
>>         of polluted
>>         water or sewerage and can also convert salt
>>         water into
>>         drinking water both quickly and
>>         inexpensively. Other
>>         uses are in fire fighting applications, ice
>>         and snow
>>         removal from roads, etc. and sterilization
>>         and nurturing
>>         of soil for agriculture where contamination
>>         has
>>         occurred.
>>         I had designed a method of making hydrogen
>>         from carbon
>>         & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic
>>         Bombardment
>>         method of high frequency inside of spherical
>>         inclosure
>>         like this experiments with the carbon button
>>         lamp
>>         globes.   After working with Leonard
>>         Dorsett and his
>>         Super Steam Project, I chose to use the
>>         Water Shift
>>         Process instead.  A side note is needed
>>         here!  The Super
>>         Steam Process was a result of Professor
>>         Brown studying
>>         the method the German's used for torpedo
>>         propulsion from
>>         WWI.  Acetylene Gas and sea water produced
>>         an exothermic
>>         reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built
>>         several
>>         reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area
>>         to break
>>         (down hole) the parafin deposits to release
>>         crude oil.
>>         The Chemical equation for the reaction in
>>         the US
>>         Patent: https://patents.google.com/ patent/US7097676B2/en
>>         <https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         (6C
>>         + 12 H2O  = 6CO2 + 24H)
>>
>>
>>
>>         Hydrogen
>>         Reactor Development
>>          
>>         Original
>>         concept design was a high
>>         voltage, high frequency resonant device that
>>         utilized
>>         carbon water reaction with the feedstock
>>         being in the
>>         form of graphite rod stock. 
>>         This unit was
>>         designed for vehicle application and had too
>>         many
>>         limitations to be used for mass hydrogen
>>         generation. 
>>         This type reactor is very effective
>>         at hydrogen
>>         production since it targets the water vapor
>>         molecule at
>>         MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding,
>>         allowing the
>>         carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms
>>         leaving the
>>         hydrogen free. This device was a closed
>>         system that used
>>         a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that
>>         enabled the
>>         hydrogen to be feed to an internal
>>         combustion engine.
>>          
>>         To
>>         allow for a sustained high mass flow of
>>         hydrogen gas
>>         output, reactor design took on a radical
>>         change. 
>>         By incorporating the
>>         Ranque/Hilsch, Counter
>>         Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and
>>         continuous high
>>         mass flow and gas separation were
>>         achieved in one
>>         stage of operation. 
>>         Feedstock for
>>         this type reactor could be any
>>         carbon-based material
>>         that could be put into a powder
>>         form.  Highest
>>         carbon content of the feedstock provides
>>         for the
>>         most efficient hydrogen production with
>>         the least
>>         undesirable output
>>         material.
>>          
>>         Super
>>         high temperature operating regime was
>>         chosen to be
>>         above 2500 C for the purpose of
>>         producing atomic
>>         hydrogen in the process. 
>>         The original
>>         reactor operated at temperatures that
>>         easily
>>         gasified basic carbon into a plasma
>>         state
>>         (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the
>>         production
>>         of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed
>>         stock
>>         ratios.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and
>>         paid for my
>>         52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft.
>>         lab the do the
>>         Prototype machining and Proof of Concept
>>         testing for
>>         GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million
>>         investment and
>>         they got the rights to the process and I got
>>         the
>>         beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I
>>         was a self
>>         employed Contractor in Dallas working with
>>         HVAC,
>>         Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so
>>         had to commute
>>         170 miles/day and only had the week ends for
>>         my time!
>>         Having to mow grass and maintane the 52
>>         acres took all
>>         my time and when I suffered a neck fracture
>>         in 2012, had
>>         to retire. Liquidated the entire facility
>>         and sold it
>>         off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana
>>         where I now
>>         do a lot of relaxing and fishing!
>>         Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel
>>         so now I
>>         will just contribute to the dialog inorder
>>         to assist any
>>         research you may be doing within my area of
>>         experitise!     BTW! I have been out to
>>         pasture for a
>>         long time now, so no BULL offense!  As
>>         Hector knows, "It
>>         fits"! Lol
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol
>>         Hat when you
>>         come visit from PR!  Lol
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On
>>         11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>          
>>
>>
>>
>>         By the way ... i can hit mega millions
>>         or the power
>>         ball  . i never will not have a lab i
>>         can work in, 
>>         that is worst than death , you have no
>>         idea of the
>>         technology that had being lost by the
>>         greedy fucking
>>         bastards fucking my life , they will
>>         loose all they
>>         have  "soon" because it had
>>         being engineered that
>>         way by accumulative bad karma, i have
>>         another lab
>>         they will never reach or be able to
>>         intercept or
>>         destroy and that will decide their fate
>>         ..... they
>>         will be fucked hard !
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         (H)   
>>
>>
>>
>>         ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>         <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...>
>>         wrote :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Cmon Hector,
>>         Bad taste!
>>
>>
>>         The man had a more serious lab than
>>         anyone else
>>         here and his work speaks for itself. 
>>         Maybe he has
>>         gained the fortune he desired through
>>         R&D and
>>         now shitting in tall cotton or gone
>>         fishing
>>         reaping the rewards of retirement.
>>         Notwithstanding
>>         is still kind enough to help point us
>>         in the right
>>         directions around here.
>>         "Funny–I
>>         can look back on a life
>>         of
>>         achievement, on
>>         challenges met,
>>         competitors bested,
>>         obstacles
>>         overcome. I’ve
>>         accomplished more
>>         than most men, and
>>         without the use
>>         of my legs. What?What
>>         makes a man,
>>         Mr.
>>         Lebowski?"
>>
>>
>>         On
>>         11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@...
>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>          
>>
>>         Dar n ! a Scientist inventor
>>         with no lab
>>         is like a breeding bull with
>>         no balls !
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>         <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>         wrote :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Jacob! You asked me a
>>         question and I
>>         gave you my opinion! 
>>         I'm totally
>>         retired at 80 years old
>>         and have no
>>         lab to experiment in! 
>>         Your quote; I
>>         heard once a phrase from a
>>         researcher
>>         who said. '' Slow
>>         down boy, we get
>>         paid for llooking for
>>         solutions, not
>>         to find
>>         them!''   That certainly does
>>         not apply to me for I have
>>         shared all
>>         with the folks on this
>>         site.  I find
>>         you statement very
>>         interesting: 
>>         Technics that use up 10 %
>>         of a magnet
>>         in 24 hours with usual
>>         amount of gas
>>         looks to me extremely
>>         inefficient.  
>>         ??????        Care
>>         to share where you
>>         saw the power of a
>>         permanent magnet
>>         being used up!   We all
>>         here on this
>>         site share what ever
>>         knowledge we have
>>         on the various subjects
>>         not seeking
>>         any monetary gain in any
>>         way! That is
>>         my approach!   I just
>>         contribute to
>>         the dialog when I run
>>         across something
>>         interesting and think it
>>         will assist
>>         you guys!   Norm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On
>>         11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob
>>         Wall wall_jakob@...
>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>          
>>
>>         Thanks Norman,
>>
>>         But i actually
>>         asced for
>>         ''most
>>         efficient way'' to
>>         split water known
>>         to you!
>>
>>         I realize there
>>         are a lot of
>>         different
>>         technigues to do
>>         just that.
>>
>>         And yes i realize
>>         you could
>>         give me a rather
>>         complex
>>         answer. But
>>         instead i hope for
>>         a
>>
>>         rather easy and
>>         reproductive
>>         answer since i am
>>         looking
>>         forward to solve
>>         my enerrgy
>>
>>         problems i just
>>         can not live
>>         with the momentary
>>         (sad and
>>         very stupid energy
>>         situation)
>>
>>         I am still not
>>         giving up
>>         becouse of a
>>         couple mistakes
>>         and
>>         misunderstandings.
>>
>>         If i would be a
>>         car dealer and
>>         you would ask me
>>         for a most
>>         efficient car
>>         available on the
>>         market
>>
>>         i would for sure
>>         not recommend
>>         a Prius, since
>>         there are a lot
>>         of cars with
>>         better fuel
>>         economie
>>
>>         even without being
>>         a hybrid
>>         and without
>>         additional cost
>>         like
>>         batterys,e-motors and a
>>         bunch added
>>         ECU's
>>
>>
>>
>>         Technics that use
>>         up 10 % of a
>>         magnet in 24 hours
>>         with usual
>>         amount of gas
>>         looks to me
>>         extremely
>>
>>         inefficient.
>>
>>         Also very
>>         expensive HHO-Garage
>>         products with
>>         output of 1,6
>>         ltr/min.
>>
>>         Come on, 6 rusty
>>         nails and a
>>         old car batery
>>         does this job,
>>         no need to spend
>>         1600 bucks on
>>         it.
>>
>>         I honestly
>>         expected solide
>>         advise or a honest
>>         NO way boy,
>>         i just talking
>>         around.
>>
>>
>>
>>         I heard once a
>>         phrase from a
>>         researcher who
>>         said. '' Slow
>>         down boy, we get
>>         paid for
>>         llooking for
>>
>>         solutions, not to
>>         find them!''
>>         That shoked me
>>         deeply and even
>>         if i get 150 years
>>         old, i will
>>         not forget it.
>>
>>         Thats true treason
>>         on mankind
>>         and deciving the
>>         people. I
>>         really hope nobody
>>         on this
>>         forum only care
>>
>>
>>         about what he/she
>>         will be
>>         doing tomorrow.
>>
>>
>>
>>         Jakob
>>
>>
>>
>>         ------------------------------ --------------
>>
>>         On Sun, 10/28/18,
>>         Norman
>>         Wootan nwootan@...
>>         [EVGRAY] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>         wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>         Subject: Re: Fwd:
>>         Fwd: Re:
>>         [EVGRAY]
>>         Norm's Magnetic
>>         Battery
>>
>>         To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>         "Bert
>>         Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>         "Bob
>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>         "joel
>>         mcclain" <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>         "Jon
>>         Gentry" <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>
>>         "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>         "Toby
>>         Grotz" <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>         "Phil
>>         Rembold" <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>         "Angel
>>         Alvarez" <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>         "Fredric
>>         Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>
>>         Received: Sunday,
>>         October 28,
>>         2018, 9:44 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>          
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Jacob!  That
>>         would be a rather
>>         complex answer
>>
>>         but here is
>>         your
>>
>>         starting point!
>>
>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct- thermomagnetic-splitting-of-
>>         water-.html
>>         <https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html>   
>>
>>         After having been
>>         heavily
>>         involved in the
>>         COLD FUSION
>>
>>         Research
>>
>>         back in the 70s
>>         and 80s I
>>         quickly settled
>>         o0n the best
>>
>>         catalyst in
>>
>>         electrolytic cells
>>         which is
>>         pure nickel. I
>>         still have
>>
>>         the cell
>>
>>         used in the
>>         Elemental
>>         Replication
>>         experiments.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ gunnrman/gunnrman.htm
>>         <http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm>    
>>
>>         The hidden
>>
>>         part of this
>>         research is the
>>         use of a nickel
>>         component
>>
>>         in the
>>
>>         combustion
>>         chamber. Bosch
>>         developed 90,000V
>>         ignition
>>
>>         systems to
>>
>>         enable water
>>         injection in gas
>>         engine which
>>         high
>>
>>         lighted the
>>
>>         Graneau HV
>>         decomposition of
>>         water via HVDC
>>
>>         discharge!
>>
>>         My magnetic
>>         Battery when run
>>         as an electrolytic
>>         cell
>>
>>         to produce
>>
>>         hydrogen does
>>         produce a huge
>>         amount of hydrogen
>>         gas as
>>
>>         shown by
>>
>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft
>>         document.  I
>>         would tell you
>>         to
>>
>>         pursue the
>>         super
>>
>>         high Tesla
>>         magnetic flux and
>>         nickel electrodes
>>         in an
>>
>>         electrolytic
>>
>>         cell.  The major
>>         obstacle to
>>         be overcome is the
>>         rapid
>>
>>         collection
>>
>>         of ions from
>>         solution by the
>>         1.3 Tesla flux
>>         across a
>>
>>         .020"
>>
>>         mechanical gap
>>         which quickly
>>         takes the cell
>>         into a
>>
>>         super-conduction
>>         mode which
>>         takes out the
>>         driving DC
>>
>>         power supply.
>>
>>         You can flush the
>>         magnetic
>>         gaps with
>>         distilled water
>>
>>         and the gaps
>>
>>         will show in the
>>         meg-ohm range
>>         then go to zero
>>         ohms
>>
>>         after a short
>>
>>         period of running,
>>         the
>>         gathered ions
>>         totally short
>>
>>         cell. During
>>
>>         the brief runs
>>         there is a huge
>>         amount of hydrogen
>>         gas
>>
>>         produced 
>>
>>         which I burned off
>>         as it was
>>         generated.  Much
>>         can be
>>
>>         said about
>>
>>         driving the cell
>>         with high
>>         frequencies as the
>>         Myers
>>
>>         research
>>
>>         showed.  Our
>>         friend up in
>>         Canada at George
>>         Wiseman,
>>
>>         Eagle Research
>>
>>         is running well
>>         ahead of the
>>         crowd on the
>>         production
>>
>>         of H-H-O.
>>
>>         Just for
>>         giggles!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         16 October
>>
>>         1996
>>
>>         To: Hal
>>
>>         Fox,  Fusion
>>         Facts
>>
>>         Elemental
>>
>>         Replication ?
>>
>>          
>>
>>               Around
>>         mid
>>
>>         September
>>
>>         I put together
>>         an
>>
>>         electrolysis cell
>>         similar to
>>         the Miles Nickel
>>         Cold
>>
>>         Fusion Cell
>>
>>         with the goal
>>         of
>>
>>         exploring the
>>         possibilities of
>>         making what is
>>
>>         termed
>>         “Pristine
>>
>>         Water”.   This
>>         water
>>
>>         which will be used
>>         by
>>         Homeopaths
>>
>>         will have had all
>>         memory or
>>         information
>>
>>         removed.  This is
>>         accomplished
>>         by
>>
>>         recombining
>>         monatomic
>>
>>         hydrogen and
>>         monatomic oxygen
>>         as generated in
>>         a
>>
>>         properly
>>
>>         designed cell. 
>>         This is
>>
>>         the ultimate in
>>         purity since
>>         this is
>>
>>         water with
>>         conditions at the
>>         time of
>>         original
>>
>>         creation. 
>>         “Holly Water”is a
>>         term
>>
>>         coined by my
>>         dear
>>
>>         friend and fellow
>>         researcher
>>         Joe Tyls of
>>
>>         Vancouver, BC.  
>>         After several
>>         weeks of
>>
>>         successful
>>         operation
>>
>>         producing water
>>         that had all
>>         the earmarks of
>>         a
>>
>>         true
>>         “pristine
>>
>>         water” a
>>         fellow
>>
>>         researcher
>>         suggested using an
>>         alternate
>>
>>         electrolyte.   A
>>         solution was
>>         selected
>>
>>         that contained
>>         77
>>
>>         colloidal minerals
>>         as found in
>>         plants that are
>>         the
>>
>>         easiest
>>
>>         assimilated into
>>         the
>>
>>         body.   With
>>         the
>>
>>         electrolyte
>>         changed the
>>
>>         cell was put back
>>         into
>>         operation as
>>         before with a
>>
>>         nice
>>
>>         recombination burn
>>         and
>>
>>         production of the
>>         sought after
>>         “pristine
>>
>>         water”.                                                      
>>                                                                      
>>                             
>>
>>                
>>
>>             After about
>>         an
>>
>>         hour of
>>
>>         operation the
>>         cell
>>
>>         went absolutely
>>         “nuts” with
>>         the temperature
>>
>>         rapidly
>>         climbing
>>
>>         to boiling
>>         point
>>
>>         and the current
>>         out of sight. 
>>
>>         When the
>>
>>         cell was opened we
>>         found a
>>         deep red sludge
>>         deposit
>>
>>         which
>>
>>         shorted the
>>         cell
>>
>>         plates.   Our
>>         first
>>
>>         thought was that
>>         the
>>
>>         electrolytic
>>         action
>>         precipitated out
>>         the colloidal
>>
>>         minerals
>>
>>         which caused
>>         the
>>
>>         deposit found.  
>>         The 
>>
>>         electrolyte was
>>         allowed
>>
>>         to settle out
>>         the
>>
>>         precipitate.  
>>         After 
>>
>>         decanting off, 
>>         the clear
>>         electrolyte
>>
>>         was
>>
>>         returned to the
>>
>>         cell for another
>>         run. Again
>>         the cell
>>         operated
>>
>>         normally for
>>
>>         about an hour with
>>         a
>>
>>         normal
>>         recombination burn and
>>         recovery of the
>>
>>         water being
>>
>>         consumed by the
>>         cell
>>
>>         in the splitting
>>         action.  
>>         Again
>>
>>         the cell
>>
>>         temperature and
>>         current
>>         mirrored the
>>         first
>>
>>         run. 
>>
>>         Again the cell
>>         contained the
>>         same amount of
>>
>>         sludge
>>
>>         residue.   This
>>         process
>>
>>         was repeated ten
>>         (10) times
>>
>>         with exactly the
>>         same
>>         results.  
>>
>>         All of
>>
>>         the sludge was
>>         carefully dried
>>         and weighed on
>>         an
>>
>>         electronic
>>
>>         scale with a
>>         five
>>
>>         decimal
>>
>>         resolution.                      
>>
>>         The cell plates
>>         and all
>>         hardware were
>>
>>         weighed to
>>
>>         determine any loss
>>         of
>>
>>         mass that may
>>         contribute to
>>         the mass gain
>>         observed
>>
>>         in the
>>
>>         sludge.  Five
>>         hundred
>>
>>         (500) ml of the
>>         original
>>
>>         electrolyte
>>         solution used in
>>         the cell was
>>         vacuum
>>
>>         distilled to
>>
>>         determine the
>>
>>         exact mass of
>>         colloidal
>>         minerals
>>
>>         contained. 
>>
>>         When all factors
>>         were
>>         considered we
>>         came
>>
>>         out with a
>>
>>         mass gain of  48
>>         gm
>>
>>         which cannot be
>>         explained by
>>
>>         conventional
>>
>>         electrolysis.                       
>>
>>
>>
>>             After
>>         talking
>>
>>         to Dr.
>>
>>         Robert Bass and
>>         Hal
>>
>>         Fox I learned of a
>>         patent that
>>         has been filed
>>         on
>>
>>         the
>>
>>         transmutation of
>>         elements
>>
>>         in the cold fusion
>>         cell which
>>         is the process
>>         that
>>
>>         Dr. John
>>
>>         Bockris has been
>>         so
>>
>>         active in.  
>>         Both Dr.
>>
>>         Bass and Hal
>>         Fox
>>
>>         stated that what I
>>         was
>>         observing is not
>>         the same
>>
>>         as the
>>
>>         transmutation
>>         observed
>>
>>         in the cold fusion
>>         cell since
>>         I have a
>>         overall
>>
>>         mass gain and
>>
>>         not a lateral
>>
>>         movement of
>>         elements in the
>>         periodic table
>>         toward
>>
>>         lighter
>>
>>         elements with a
>>
>>         resulting heat
>>         release.  This
>>
>>         unusual
>>
>>         cell operation has
>>         caused
>>         quite a reaction
>>         in the
>>
>>         scientific
>>
>>         community.  At
>>         this
>>
>>         time I have built
>>         a complete
>>         new cell
>>
>>         with every
>>         possible factor
>>         which could
>>         possibly
>>
>>         explain the
>>
>>         mass gain
>>
>>         considered and
>>         documented. 
>>         The
>>
>>         ten (10)
>>
>>         consecutive runs
>>         on the new
>>         cell will be
>>         completed
>>
>>         soon and a
>>
>>         report will be
>>
>>         forthcoming.  
>>         What is
>>
>>         interesting
>>         about
>>
>>         this phenomenon is
>>         that when
>>         an eleventh run
>>         was
>>
>>         made with the
>>
>>         original
>>
>>         electrolyte
>>         exactly the same
>>         amount of residue
>>         was
>>
>>         recovered
>>
>>         as in the
>>         previous
>>
>>         ten
>>
>>         runs.                                                        
>>                         
>>
>>
>>
>>          
>>
>>         Since
>>
>>         the same
>>         electrolyte is reused
>>         each time with
>>         only
>>
>>         distilled
>>
>>         water being
>>         added
>>
>>         to replace the
>>         volume lost by
>>         the removal of
>>         the
>>
>>         solids and
>>
>>         the water
>>         recovered
>>
>>         by the
>>         recombination burn we
>>         are hard pressed
>>         to
>>
>>         explain the
>>
>>         observed
>>
>>

>>         phenomenon.     The
>>
>>         electrolyte
>>         appears
>>
>>         stronger in
>>         mineral
>>         concentration and
>>         shows no
>>
>>         sign of
>>
>>
>>
>>         depletion.                                 
>>
>>
>>
>>            After
>>         conferring
>>
>>         with
>>
>>         Joe Tyls we
>>         arrived at
>>
>>         the conclusion
>>         that the 77
>>         colloidal
>>         minerals
>>
>>         contained in
>>         the
>>
>>         electrolyte
>>
>>         provide the atomic
>>         templates
>>         needed for the
>>
>>         monatomic
>>         hydrogen
>>
>>         (father of all
>>
>>         the elements) to
>>         replicate
>>         selected elements
>>         in
>>
>>         this exotic
>>
>>         mixture.  If
>>         you
>>
>>         subscribe to the
>>         theories of
>>         the late
>>
>>         Walter Russell and
>>         his
>>         explanation of the
>>         octave
>>
>>         based
>>
>>         periodic table
>>         with
>>
>>         monatonic hydrogen
>>         being what
>>         he describes as
>>
>>         hydrons
>>
>>         (precursor to
>>         hydrogen)
>>
>>         then it is
>>         possible for the
>>         replication of
>>
>>         elements
>>         directly
>>
>>         from energy
>>         input
>>
>>         alone.  This is
>>         how all
>>
>>         matter was
>>
>>         created in the
>>         beginning as
>>         described by
>>
>>         Schappeller in
>>         “The
>>
>>         Physics of the
>>
>>         Primary State of
>>         Matter”.    I
>>
>>         will keep
>>
>>         all informed as to
>>         our
>>         progress and
>>         findings in
>>
>>         this very
>>
>>         intriguing
>>         venture.
>>
>>          
>>
>>         Norman
>>
>>         Wootan
>>
>>         P.O.
>>
>>         Box 141049
>>
>>         Dallas,
>>
>>         TX 75214
>>
>>         (214)
>>
>>         360-0865
>>
>>          
>>
>>          
>>
>>         CC:  Gene
>>         Mallove,
>>
>>         Infinite
>>
>>         Energy
>>
>>         CC:  Dr. John
>>
>>         Bockris, Texas
>>
>>         A/M
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01
>>         AM,
>>
>>         Jakob Wall
>>
>>         wall_jakob@...
>>
>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>          
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Thanks Norman,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         BTW, what is the
>>         most
>>         effective water
>>         split
>>
>>         device that
>>
>>         you ever put you
>>         hands on?
>>
>>
>>
>>         As HHO researcher
>>         for dekades
>>         you should be
>>
>>         able to point
>>
>>         us directly to the
>>         most
>>         effective
>>         known!
>>
>>
>>
>>         Please be specific
>>         about
>>         reconstruction of
>>         the
>>
>>         same, since
>>
>>         we are in public
>>         domain it
>>         will become
>>         public
>>
>>         knowledge
>>
>>         and public good. I
>>         assume you
>>         intend nothing
>>
>>         else,rigth ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         ------------------------------ --------------
>>
>>
>>
>>         On Sat, 10/27/18,
>>         Norman
>>         Wootan nwootan@...
>>
>>         [EVGRAY]
>>
>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>
>>         wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Subject: Re: Fwd:
>>         Fwd: Re:
>>         [EVGRAY]
>>         Norm's
>>
>>         Magnetic
>>
>>         Battery [3
>>         Attachments]
>>
>>
>>
>>         To: "Bert
>>         Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>
>>         "Bob
>>
>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@....> <mailto:bob.paddock@....>,
>>
>>         "joel
>>         mcclain"
>>
>>         <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>
>>         "Jon
>>         Gentry"
>>
>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>
>>         "Lane
>>         Wootan"
>>
>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>
>>
>>         "Mbking42"
>>
>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>
>>         "Toby
>>         Grotz"
>>
>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>
>>         "Phil
>>         Rembold"
>>
>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>
>>         "Angel
>>         Alvarez"
>>
>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>
>>         "Fredric
>>         Fletcher"
>>
>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>
>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>
>>
>>
>>         To understand the
>>         unwinding of
>>         a thread
>>
>>         leading
>>
>>
>>
>>         to Magnetic
>>
>>
>>
>>         Generating
>>         Hydrogen and this
>>         Magnetic
>>         Battery,
>>
>>         we have
>>
>>
>>
>>         to dust off
>>
>>
>>
>>         our  9th grade
>>         Chemistry
>>         Books!
>>
>>
>>
>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm
>>         <http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm>     
>>
>>
>>
>>         I guess Dr.
>>
>>
>>
>>         Ehrenhaft was the
>>         first to
>>         propose a
>>         Magnetic
>>
>>         Current.
>>
>>
>>
>>         (Jon
>>
>>
>>
>>         Gentry, Your
>>         liquid metal
>>         vortex helix).
>>
>>
>>
>>         https://revolution-green.com/ can-electrolysis-powered-
>>         magnets/
>>         <https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/>      
>>
>>
>>
>>         Ah! Ha!  more on
>>         Magnetic
>>         Currents!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>         https://sciencing.com/ magnetic-properties-hydrogen-
>>         7648446.html
>>         <https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html>
>>
>>
>>
>>         https://www.labmanager.com/ white-papers-and-application-
>>         notes/2010/05/resistivity- conductivity-measurement-of-
>>         purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>         <https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w>
>>
>>
>>
>>         https://www.askiitians.com/ forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/
>>         19074/electro-che
>>         <https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che>
>>
>>
>>
>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Overpotential
>>         <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential>
>>
>>
>>
>>         https://www.quora.com/Why-is- oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-
>>         although-it-does-not-contain- any-unpaired-electron
>>         <https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron>
>>
>>
>>
>>         https://www.researchgate.net/ publication/251580541_The_
>>         effect_of_magnetic_force_on_ hydrogen_production_
>>         efficiency_in_water_ electrolysis
>>         <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis>
>>
>>
>>
>>         http://www.physicscentral.com/ experiment/physicsathome/
>>         electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>         <http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm>
>>
>>
>>
>>         http://www.linux-host.org/ energy/bmagpump.htm
>>         <http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Now Jon Gentry you
>>         have your
>>         liquid metal
>>         pump
>>
>>         so
>>
>>
>>
>>         that you can
>>
>>
>>
>>         make the helix
>>         tube Vortex! 
>>
>>         Ferricpetacarbonyl
>>         or
>>
>>
>>
>>         micro fine neo
>>
>>
>>
>>         powder to provide
>>         the liquid
>>         metal for pump
>>
>>
>>
>>         circuit.
>>
>>
>>
>>         Lots of reading
>>         here!    
>>         Please think
>>
>>         about the
>>
>>
>>
>>         ramifications
>>         of
>>
>>
>>
>>         a Magnetic Current
>>         as proposed
>>         by Dr.
>>
>>         Ehrenhaft
>>
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