Work in progress

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[1/5] Work in progress

2018-10-25T15:46:58+00:00 · Warren Keillor <[email protected]>
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Hi guysHere we have a work in progress, flying in front of dreaded Winter.So far, it is a bit draughty.The foundations were bad, or non existant, so were replaced.The 10"×10" posts were eaten by carpenter ants, and pillar beetles, so they were replaced. The barn board siding was rotten, so it was taken down. The beams were bad, so they have been replaced. The joists have been sistered or replaced. The roof, of course, needs to be replaced.My new workshop, to the right, is a stone mason's playground. I have had to learn to hoist stones, replace beams, and mortar them all back in place, arches and all.45 tons of stone was removed from under the thin concrete stable floor
In order to put in 40 tons of crushed limestone, spray foam, then a pad 5" thick containing a plastic tube heating grid, for in floor heating.
A suitable heat pump, that uses 10 amps of 220 at -30C is arriving this week.I thought heating glycol based water fluid is a suitable test environment for energy experiments.The roof faces South in both buildings, at just the correct angle to get best performance.I wanted to beef up the roof to handle the mechanical loads of the panels.The barns were built in the 1850's in all likelyhood, though, they may be older. I wanted to preserve them as best as I am able, because I seem to always need work space, for various on going projects.I am trying to get these buildings at least closed in for this winter, with good roofs over each, and at least one to be heated.My wife and I are doing most of the work, along with friends.This is what I hope to use the 20 amps of 220 AC power for, if it is possible.Cheers Warren
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[2/5] Re: Work in progress

2018-10-26T11:54:27+00:00 · triadutrad <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
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That's a lot of work  and money put in there might as well go for  a monolithic bunkerized foundation and a choice of available prefab storm resistant winter isolated steel buildings .. floor can be treated with temperature insulated ceramic coat were no heating is necessary  other than the normal heat pumps in the market .  



 https://www.google.com/search?q=winter+resistant+prefab+metal+buildings+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b https://www.google.com/search?q=winter+resistant+prefab+metal+buildings+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b

some things are better torn to the seams and made new .... or left as is as a historical museum piece then built beside it ... 


(H)

[3/5] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Work in progress

2018-10-26T15:47:38+00:00 · Warren Keillor <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
HectorIts a bitch, this commitment error thing. My neighbor had a barn like mine, a just hooked a chain to the corner, and yanked her down with the tractor.I am a sucker for beauty.In a world of functionalism, you are right, but I have just arrived, away from a city of 6.5 million. I'm hooked on space around me and the distant vistas to the horizon, unbroken except for the odd herd of cattle, or wild turkeys, and rolling hills. I certainly could have designed a "modern" building with plenty of glass, and likely found the price very similar.Except! Building codes, new construction inspectors counting how many nails I am using, and that railings keep toddlers from falling down stairs, all good, and fine for shady builders, but all I wanted was the building to stay standing, and keep the weather out, as it was.When I found something bad, I fixed it, because I can.The very best thing I did, was buy a used excavator. Although that was a big expense, right after moving in last December, I knew that is the cheapest time of year to buy construction equipment, in Canada.At 200 bucks a day, rental, it would have killed our budget,( actually bidgit, as it is tiny).With the hydraulic claw I made for it, it acts as a massively powerful robotic arm, easily picking up 500lbs, or more, or digging down six feet, if the soil were so deep.It is a great rock picker, and placer, plugging a big stone into a wall, well over my head, as I do my stone masonry, with the ample rock available on the property.I did build a bunker foundation, all right, straight on the Canadian Shield bedrock, of re-enforced concrete.For now, that big barn will not be heated. I await technology developments. I am not so pessimistic that we must always squeeze every joule of energy out of everything, just to have "free" energy, like running the grease out of our bearings, and eliminating the seals. If our energy is so fragile, and precious, needing to self run, perhaps we are not doing it the correct way. It is not as if we don't have viable options, enough to get a surplus of energy. We should now consider sustainability, and ease of maintenance.My feeling is if it costs a lot and looks ugly, it is a poor solution and resolution.Sweat equity is cheap, as long as your bones supply. So far, so good.It sure keeps an old guy like me, fit, and well on the mend, from the horsing around in New Zealand.
The stone barn is the one that will be heated this winter, as my workshop. Windows and doors will certainly help. I have no time before the snow flies to build them, so for the winter, I will do a temporary installation, making do.At this moment we are running a four foot deep trench from the house to supply electricity, and water. Excavators are good! It must be the thickest soil on the property.Bedrock is on the bottom of the trench.Cheers Warren
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  On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 8:16 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
That's a lot of work  and money put in there might as well go for  a monolithic bunkerized foundation and a choice of available prefab storm resistant winter isolated steel buildings .. floor can be treated with temperature insulated ceramic coat were no heating is necessary  other than the normal heat pumps in the market .  



 https://www.google.com/search?q=winter+resistant+prefab+metal+buildings+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b

some things are better torn to the seams and made new .... or left as is as a historical museum piece then built beside it ... 


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[4/5] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Work in progress

2018-10-26T16:33:21+00:00 · Darrell Evans <[email protected]>
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Atta boy Talent Man, stick to Perfection & Beauty... your necessity manifestations to get things done amaze me, keep on keeping on my friend.
If its for the art & conservation is worth the effort . i have seen destruction of worth at a level you cant imagine by people who had no vision or commitment .


I am glad you are one with it ....


(H) 

---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

 Hector Its a bitch, this commitment error thing. My neighbor had a barn like mine, a just hooked a chain to the corner, and yanked her down with the tractor.
 I am a sucker for beauty.
 In a world of functionalism, you are right, but I have just arrived, away from a city of 6.5 million. I'm hooked on space around me and the distant vistas to the horizon, unbroken except for the odd herd of cattle, or wild turkeys, and rolling hills. I certainly could have designed a "modern" building with plenty of glass, and likely found the price very similar.
 Except! Building codes, new construction inspectors counting how many nails I am using, and that railings keep toddlers from falling down stairs, all good, and fine for shady builders, but all I wanted was the building to stay standing, and keep the weather out, as it was.
 When I found something bad, I fixed it, because I can.
 The very best thing I did, was buy a used excavator. Although that was a big expense, right after moving in last December, I knew that is the cheapest time of year to buy construction equipment, in Canada.
 At 200 bucks a day, rental, it would have killed our budget,( actually bidgit, as it is tiny).
 With the hydraulic claw I made for it, it acts as a massively powerful robotic arm, easily picking up 500lbs, or more, or digging down six feet, if the soil were so deep.
 It is a great rock picker, and placer, plugging a big stone into a wall, well over my head, as I do my stone masonry, with the ample rock available on the property.
 I did build a bunker foundation, all right, straight on the Canadian Shield bedrock, of re-enforced concrete.
 For now, that big barn will not be heated. I await technology developments. I am not so pessimistic that we must always squeeze every joule of energy out of everything, just to have "free" energy, like running the grease out of our bearings, and eliminating the seals. If our energy is so fragile, and precious, needing to self run, perhaps we are not doing it the correct way. It is not as if we don't have viable options, enough to get a surplus of energy. We should now consider sustainability, and ease of maintenance.
 My feeling is if it costs a lot and looks ugly, it is a poor solution and resolution.
 Sweat equity is cheap, as long as your bones supply. So far, so good.
 It sure keeps an old guy like me, fit, and well on the mend, from the horsing around in New Zealand.
The stone barn is the one that will be heated this winter, as my workshop. Windows and doors will certainly help. I have no time before the snow flies to build them, so for the winter, I will do a temporary installation, making do.
 At this moment we are running a four foot deep trench from the house to supply electricity, and water. Excavators are good! It must be the thickest soil on the property.
 Bedrock is on the bottom of the trench.
 Cheers Warren
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 On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 8:16 AM, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:
 
   That's a lot of work  and money put in there might as well go for  a monolithic bunkerized foundation and a choice of available prefab storm resistant winter isolated steel buildings .. floor can be treated with temperature insulated ceramic coat were no heating is necessary  other than the normal heat pumps in the market .  



 https://www.google.com/search?q=winter+resistant+prefab+metal+buildings+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b https://www.google.com/search?q=winter+resistant+prefab+metal+buildings+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b

some things are better torn to the seams and made new .... or left as is as a historical museum piece then built beside it ... 


(H)