310 miles on 1 litre of water

310 miles on motorcycle on 1 litre of water.

This is worth a look.  6 minute video or read it.
George


https://www.disclose.tv/motorcycle-travels-310-miles-on-single-liter-of-water-314288

Gerry ever think about a HHO GUN TO REPLACE gun powder ?
On Oct 11, 2018 3:45 PM, "Gerry [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi George,
> Nice link ...have played around with the HHO for a while too.
> Some good some bad results with neighbors come running over once to see
> what caused the explosion :)
>
> Gerry
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:48 AM george gray [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> 310 miles on motorcycle on 1 litre of water.
>>
>> This is worth a look.  6 minute video or read it.
>>
>> George
>>
>> https://www.disclose.tv/motorcycle-travels-310-miles-
>> on-single-liter-of-water-314288
>>
>>
>> 
>

I found out the hard way with hydrogen flame speed and it blew my hat off!
It would work great in a turbine like a jet plane I'm thinking.It's hard to believe it could ever work in a piston engine..

    On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 6:02:15 p.m. MDT, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     


Gerry ever think about a HHO GUN TO REPLACE gun powder ? 
On Oct 11, 2018 3:45 PM, "Gerry [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

     

Hi George, Nice link ...have played around with the HHO for a while too.Some good some bad results with neighbors come running over once to see what caused the explosion :)
Gerry 

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:48 AM george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

 

310 miles on motorcycle on 1 litre of water.

This is worth a look.  6 minute video or read it.
George


https://www.disclose.tv/ motorcycle-travels-310-miles- on-single-liter-of-water- 314288



   
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OK! All you guys on this site, Consider this your trip to the proverbial 
WOOD SHED!  First read the sign at entrance to my Research Farm:

It says to you, H-H-O Research!
I had two ea. of Yule Brown's BN-2000, Browns gas welders and did a lot 
of imploding the stoichiometric ratio H-H-O gas resulting in a loud 
PLINCK, sound of an implosion event.  I'm 80 years old and spent my 
entire life involved in the internal combustion technology world as 
first auto mechanic then on to a career as an Ordnance Office, vehicle 
and aircraft maintenance in addition to Military Research & 
Development.  All that aside, here are the facts of life!  In all 
internal combustion engines, you have to have an inert expanding gas 
(Nitrogen) that absorbs the heat of combustion of the fuel air mix 
in-order to get the driving force to produce torque or thrust as in a 
turbo jet.  Without an expansion agent all you get is a release of 
heat.     Same applies to the generation of the H_H_O gas in the 
electrolytic cell.  Back in high school chemistry class you all plunged 
a lighted splint down onto test tube of hydrogen gas split in 
electrolytic action and got the loud POP which was the burning of the 
hydrogen in air with the nitrogen giving the expansion POP!  When you 
com-bust H-H-O in a closed environment without nitrogen or any other 
inert gas all you get is a loud PLINK sound of implosion and a release 
of heat.  During my Elemental Replication experiments , I burned H-H-O 
in an implosion steady burn with  a water cooled Pyrex condenser to get 
what I called absolutely pure pristine water without any signature.  
Hundreds of hour of burning the H-H-O with no explosions due to the fact 
that an expansion agent was not present!  Doug (KONE) and I had a great 
friend in Eugene Mallow whom published several article on my Research. 
See an article on Peter Graneau's work with exploding water which goes 
to Gerry's comment on a H-H-O gun!    NOT! Gerry, You need to research 
how a WATER GUN works as you will see by reading these articles.  WOOD 
SHED TIME!

http://www.infinite-energy.com/whoarewe/gene.html

GraneauIE13-14.pdf

https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.95559?journalCode=apl

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231781707_Arc-liberated_chemical_energy_exceeds_electrical_input_energy

https://youtu.be/iC5Gu29OaOI

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_emergency_power

The water gun that Peter Graneau built fired a teflon 1/2 inch diameter rod trough seven NY telephone directories with the exploding of one CC of water with a 20 killo-joule discharge of a capacitor.  It is call the water fog phenomenon.  This technology is used extensively in the explosive forming of complex aircraft parts with exotic metals like titanium.    What you take away from all this is the simple fact that you have to have an expansion agent to get thrust or driving force!  SIMPLE!








On 10/11/2018 9:32 PM, machinationus [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> I found out the hard way with hydrogen flame speed and it blew my hat off!
>
> It would work great in a turbine like a jet plane I'm thinking.
> It's hard to believe it could ever work in a piston engine..
>
> On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 6:02:15 p.m. MDT, James Glinski 
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Gerry ever think about a HHO GUN TO REPLACE gun powder ?
>
> On Oct 11, 2018 3:45 PM, "Gerry [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Hi George,
>     Nice link ...have played around with the HHO for a while too.
>     Some good some bad results with neighbors come running over once
>     to see what caused the explosion :)
>
>     Gerry
>
>
>     On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:48 AM george gray
>     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     [EVGRAY] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     wrote:
>
>
>
>         310 miles on motorcycle on 1 litre of water.
>
>         This is worth a look.  6 minute video or read it.
>
>         George
>
>         https://www.disclose.tv/ motorcycle-travels-310-miles-
>         on-single-liter-of-water- 314288
>         <https://www.disclose.tv/motorcycle-travels-310-miles-on-single-liter-of-water-314288>
>
>
>
>

Woo that's a bummer. Sounds like you guys need a new government .I heard
new Zealand was taken over by the Communist years ago .wonder if they got
you guys too?.they don't like guns .
On Oct 11, 2018 9:34 PM, "machinationus [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> I found out the hard way with hydrogen flame speed and it blew my hat off!
>
> It would work great in a turbine like a jet plane I'm thinking.
> It's hard to believe it could ever work in a piston engine..
>
> On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 6:02:15 p.m. MDT, James Glinski
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Gerry ever think about a HHO GUN TO REPLACE gun powder ?
> On Oct 11, 2018 3:45 PM, "Gerry [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi George,
> Nice link ...have played around with the HHO for a while too.
> Some good some bad results with neighbors come running over once to see
> what caused the explosion :)
>
> Gerry
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:48 AM george gray [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> 310 miles on motorcycle on 1 litre of water.
>
> This is worth a look.  6 minute video or read it.
>
> George
>
> https://www.disclose.tv/ motorcycle-travels-310-miles-
> on-single-liter-of-water- 314288
> <https://www.disclose.tv/motorcycle-travels-310-miles-on-single-liter-of-water-314288>
>
>
> 
>

Hi George,
Nice link ...have played around with the HHO for a while too.
Some good some bad results with neighbors come running over once to see
what caused the explosion :)

Gerry


On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:48 AM george gray [email protected]
[EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> 310 miles on motorcycle on 1 litre of water.
>
> This is worth a look.  6 minute video or read it.
>
> George
>
>
> https://www.disclose.tv/motorcycle-travels-310-miles-on-single-liter-of-water-314288
>
>
> 
>

A lot o0f education went into the field of maintaining both internal 
combustion engines and turbo jet engines, most important was the science 
of basic fuel products and the heat content of same!  You have to 
understand how hydrocarbon fuels work in the process of producing power.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_combustion_engine

http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2016/ph240/cassady2/

https://www.researchgate.net/post/Why_is_liquid_nitrogen_used_as_a_fuel_in_place_of_petrol_diesel_etc_and_why_cant_we_use_water_instead

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_catalytic_cracking

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorimeter



http://www.parrinst.com/products/oxygen-bomb-calorimeters/?gclid=CjwKCAjwjIHeBRAnEiwAhYT2hyeDjPNZtT8aLkQZY7d9jgXkN3HDG3kIsizHW7jI0dIYuq4K73dUARoCRVsQAvD_BwE


At the refinery, there is a continuous analysis of fuel products as they 
are produced which tell the heat content of the hydrocarbon based fuel 
product as they add antiknock additives and ethanol blending etc.
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On 10/12/2018 6:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> OK! All you guys on this site, Consider this your trip to the 
> proverbial WOOD SHED!  First read the sign at entrance to my Research 
> Farm:
>
> It says to you, H-H-O Research!
> I had two ea. of Yule Brown's BN-2000, Browns gas welders and did a 
> lot of imploding the stoichiometric ratio H-H-O gas resulting in a 
> loud PLINCK, sound of an implosion event.  I'm 80 years old and spent 
> my entire life involved in the internal combustion technology world as 
> first auto mechanic then on to a career as an Ordnance Office, vehicle 
> and aircraft maintenance in addition to Military Research & 
> Development.  All that aside, here are the facts of life!  In all 
> internal combustion engines, you have to have an inert expanding gas 
> (Nitrogen) that absorbs the heat of combustion of the fuel air mix 
> in-order to get the driving force to produce torque or thrust as in a 
> turbo jet.  Without an expansion agent all you get is a release of 
> heat.     Same applies to the generation of the H_H_O gas in the 
> electrolytic cell.  Back in high school chemistry class you all 
> plunged a lighted splint down onto test tube of hydrogen gas split in 
> electrolytic action and got the loud POP which was the burning of the 
> hydrogen in air with the nitrogen giving the expansion POP!  When you 
> com-bust H-H-O in a closed environment without nitrogen or any other 
> inert gas all you get is a loud PLINK sound of implosion and a release 
> of heat.  During my Elemental Replication experiments , I burned H-H-O 
> in an implosion steady burn with  a water cooled Pyrex condenser to 
> get what I called absolutely pure pristine water without any 
> signature.  Hundreds of hour of burning the H-H-O with no explosions 
> due to the fact that an expansion agent was not present!  Doug (KONE) 
> and I had a great friend in Eugene Mallow whom published several 
> article on my Research. See an article on Peter Graneau's work with 
> exploding water which goes to Gerry's comment on a H-H-O gun!    
> NOT!    Gerry, You need to research how a WATER GUN works as you will 
> see by reading these articles.  WOOD SHED TIME!
>
> http://www.infinite-energy.com/whoarewe/gene.html
>
> GraneauIE13-14.pdf
>
> https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.95559?journalCode=apl
>
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231781707_Arc-liberated_chemical_energy_exceeds_electrical_input_energy
>
> https://youtu.be/iC5Gu29OaOI
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_emergency_power
>
> The water gun that Peter Graneau built fired a teflon 1/2 inch diameter rod trough seven NY telephone directories with the exploding of one CC of water with a 20 killo-joule discharge of a capacitor.  It is call the water fog phenomenon.  This technology is used extensively in the explosive forming of complex aircraft parts with exotic metals like titanium.    What you take away from all this is the simple fact that you have to have an expansion agent to get thrust or driving force!  SIMPLE!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/11/2018 9:32 PM, machinationus [email protected] [EVGRAY] 
> wrote:
>> I found out the hard way with hydrogen flame speed and it blew my hat 
>> off!
>>
>> It would work great in a turbine like a jet plane I'm thinking.
>> It's hard to believe it could ever work in a piston engine..
>>
>> On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 6:02:15 p.m. MDT, James Glinski 
>> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Gerry ever think about a HHO GUN TO REPLACE gun powder ?
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2018 3:45 PM, "Gerry [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi George,
>>     Nice link ...have played around with the HHO for a while too.
>>     Some good some bad results with neighbors come running over once
>>     to see what caused the explosion :)
>>
>>     Gerry
>>
>>
>>     On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:48 AM george gray
>>     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     [EVGRAY] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>     wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>         310 miles on motorcycle on 1 litre of water.
>>
>>         This is worth a look.  6 minute video or read it.
>>
>>         George
>>
>>         https://www.disclose.tv/ motorcycle-travels-310-miles-
>>         on-single-liter-of-water- 314288
>>         <https://www.disclose.tv/motorcycle-travels-310-miles-on-single-liter-of-water-314288>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>

Hi James,
As far as having guns or weapons goes.... unfortunately both George and I
live in an overly regulated Australia.

Here we can be charged if we injure a burglar whilst he robs our homes.
Don't laugh it has and it does happen, homeowners & shopkeepers have been
charged and found guilty,
Then having to compensate the burglar/intruder for their injuries and or
going to jail themselves.

We are not allowed actually defend ourselves or use "excessive force". In
the heat of the moment though, sometimes you just gotta use what you can
reach for.
Our often over zealous & aggressive Police will charge folks for going just
2 miles per hour over a speed limits etc etc

The justice system is very slow, expensive and often overly lenient.
As a result thugs thieves all manner of low life tend to injure people with
impunity here.

Don't get me wrong it's a great country but most individual freedoms have
been severely curtailed.
And late night shopkeepers & gas station attendants taxi drivers are just
sitting ducks... poor bastards.

We over here admire the US for it's seemingly true freedoms and it's
constitution.

Gerry




On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 11:02 AM James Glinski [email protected]
[EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Gerry ever think about a HHO GUN TO REPLACE gun powder ?
> On Oct 11, 2018 3:45 PM, "Gerry [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi George,
>> Nice link ...have played around with the HHO for a while too.
>> Some good some bad results with neighbors come running over once to see
>> what caused the explosion :)
>>
>> Gerry
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:48 AM george gray [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 310 miles on motorcycle on 1 litre of water.
>>>
>>> This is worth a look.  6 minute video or read it.
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.disclose.tv/motorcycle-travels-310-miles-on-single-liter-of-water-314288
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> 
>

James Yup it is rough living in a country where folks don't get into recreational homicide, or are even not scared of their neighbours, enough, and let them have keys to the place, so in an emergency, when you can't get home, you can call, and they will feed your cat.Down the road, we buy five dozen eggs, leaving the money in a saucer next to the sink.It might be hard to imagine.One doesn't have to view every stranger as a potential criminal, that we have to shoot, trying out our latest ammunition for the AK47.
It is all a matter of how we see each other, and take pleasure in their company.Maybe there is natural lithium in the water supply, but an amazing number of people one encounters,  are polite, and very kind to each other.One hears tales of isolated folks, who during the long winter months, simply go a bit bonkers.Inviting them over for a coffee, and some sitting time with a purring cat on the lap, and a big dog sleeping at their feet, can do wonders.Drugs, even here, are a problem Sons, and daughters, experimenting with a substance that connects in a powerful way with the happy spot in the brain, become the naive victims of a chain of ruthless entrepreneurs, who make these addictive substances, halfway around the World.There certainly is intelligent evil in some parts, that spawns this cynical exploitation of fellow creatures.Rounding them up, and keeping them in cages, seems like a sensible precaution, where ever they are found.The victims, they are very sick people, with a terrible impairment, that unhappily for them, will be a lifelong challenge, avoiding ,feeding that happy spot.So in all of this, the only way to discourage such evil, is be well educated, an hopefully, we can spot the action before it takes place.Unlike"Breaking Bad" the study of chemistry is a good thing, yet now, is seen as the first step towards evil. I first made gun powder when I was about ten, and fire crackers were not on sale, except for the 24th of may Victoria Day to celibrate Queen Victoria's birthday. I read how to make it in the Encyclopedia Britainica, which gave a  very detailed description of history, and methods of making gun powder, enough for any enthusiast. As a professional, making explosions for the film industry, I started to see a pattern of unhealthy delight in my co-workers, on set, eyes, almost like an addiction, to things that go bang.It ran the whole range from producers, directors, props people to hairdressers.Could it be that same happy spot being tickled? Bang!My Tesla coil makes that sound.Cheers Warren
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  On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 3:12 AM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


Woo that's a bummer. Sounds like you guys need a new government .I heard new Zealand was taken over by the Communist years ago .wonder if they got you guys too?.they don't like guns . 
On Oct 11, 2018 9:34 PM, "machinationus [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

     

 I found out the hard way with hydrogen flame speed and it blew my hat off!
It would work great in a turbine like a jet plane I'm thinking.It's hard to believe it could ever work in a piston engine..

    On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 6:02:15 p.m. MDT, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     


Gerry ever think about a HHO GUN TO REPLACE gun powder ? 
On Oct 11, 2018 3:45 PM, "Gerry [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

     

Hi George, Nice link ...have played around with the HHO for a while too.Some good some bad results with neighbors come running over once to see what caused the explosion :)
Gerry 

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:48 AM george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

 

310 miles on motorcycle on 1 litre of water.

This is worth a look..  6 minute video or read it.
George


https://www.disclose.tv/ motorcycle-travels-310-miles- on-single-liter-of-water- 314288



   
       
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Hi Norman,

20kJ is more than a military machine gun bullet at 14kJ to 18kJ according to this article: https://wiki2.org/en/.50_BMG https://wiki2.org/en/.50_BMG

In the image this is the cartridge to the left. The image is from the article above.
 
From left: .50 BMG, 300 Win Mag https://wiki2.org/en/.300_Winchester_Magnum, .308 Winchester https://wiki2.org/en/.308_Winchester, 7.62×39mm https://wiki2.org/en/7.62%C3%9739mm, 5.56×45mm NATO https://wiki2.org/en/5.56%C3%9745mm_NATO, .22 Long Rifle https://wiki2.org/en/.22_Long_Rifle

Regards
Ole

 

---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :

 OK! All you guys on this site, Consider this your trip to the proverbial WOOD SHED!  First read the sign at entrance to my Research Farm:
 
 It says to you, H-H-O Research!
 I had two ea. of Yule Brown's BN-2000, Browns gas welders and did a lot of imploding the stoichiometric ratio H-H-O gas resulting in a loud PLINCK, sound of an implosion event.  I'm 80 years old and spent my entire life involved in the internal combustion technology world as first auto mechanic then on to a career as an Ordnance Office, vehicle and aircraft maintenance in addition to Military Research & Development.  All that aside, here are the facts of life!  In all internal combustion engines, you have to have an inert expanding gas (Nitrogen) that absorbs the heat of combustion of the fuel air mix in-order to get the driving force to produce torque or thrust as in a turbo jet.  Without an expansion agent all you get is a release of heat.     Same applies to the generation of the H_H_O gas in the electrolytic cell.  Back in high school chemistry class you all plunged a lighted splint down onto test tube of hydrogen gas split in electrolytic action and got the loud POP which was the burning of the hydrogen in air with the nitrogen giving the expansion POP!  When you com-bust H-H-O in a closed environment without nitrogen or any other inert gas all you get is a loud PLINK sound of implosion and a release of heat.  During my Elemental Replication experiments , I burned H-H-O in an implosion steady burn with  a water cooled Pyrex condenser to get what I called absolutely pure pristine water without any signature.  Hundreds of hour of burning the H-H-O with no explosions due to the fact that an expansion agent was not present!  Doug (KONE) and I had a great friend in Eugene Mallow whom published several article on my Research. See an article on Peter Graneau's work with exploding water which goes to Gerry's comment on a H-H-O gun!    NOT!    Gerry, You need to research how a WATER GUN works as you will see by reading these articles.  WOOD SHED TIME! 
 
 http://www.infinite-energy.com/whoarewe/gene.html http://www.infinite-energy.com/whoarewe/gene.html
 
 GraneauIE13-14.pdf
 
 https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.95559?journalCode=apl https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.95559?journalCode=apl

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231781707_Arc-liberated_chemical_energy_exceeds_electrical_input_energy https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231781707_Arc-liberated_chemical_energy_exceeds_electrical_input_energy

https://youtu.be/iC5Gu29OaOI https://youtu.be/iC5Gu29OaOI

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_emergency_power https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_emergency_power

The water gun that Peter Graneau built fired a teflon 1/2 inch diameter rod trough seven NY telephone directories with the exploding of one CC of water with a 20 killo-joule discharge of a capacitor.  It is call the water fog phenomenon.  This technology is used extensively in the explosive forming of complex aircraft parts with exotic metals like titanium.    What you take away from all this is the simple fact that you have to have an expansion agent to get thrust or driving force!  SIMPLE!



 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/11/2018 9:32 PM, machinationus machinationus@... mailto:machinationus@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   I found out the hard way with hydrogen flame speed and it blew my hat off!
 

 It would work great in a turbine like a jet plane I'm thinking.
 It's hard to believe it could ever work in a piston engine..

 


 On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 6:02:15 p.m. MDT, James Glinski jglinski01@... mailto:jglinski01@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] wrote:
 

 

   Gerry ever think about a HHO GUN TO REPLACE gun powder ?
 On Oct 11, 2018 3:45 PM, "Gerry smokyatgroups@... mailto:smokyatgroups@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
   Hi George,  Nice link ...have played around with the HHO for a while too.
 Some good some bad results with neighbors come running over once to see what caused the explosion :)
 

 Gerry 
 


 
 On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:48 AM george gray canowindracd@... mailto:canowindracd@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

 
 
 310 miles on motorcycle on 1 litre of water.

 

 This is worth a look.  6 minute video or read it.
 

 George

 

 https://www.disclose.tv/ motorcycle-travels-310-miles- on-single-liter-of-water- 314288

Warren that's just amazing you get rid of self protection and evil just
realizes your defenceless and goes away .why didn't I see that you guys
have got it .now go naked and be free from sexual crime . that very rich
couple up there that were murdered by a group of criminals in there home
must of done something wrong .maybe the forgot to get all the forks and
knives out ? You know it was there fault some how ?. Ho shoe laces got to
go.
On Oct 12, 2018 11:44 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Norman,
>
> 20kJ is more than a military machine gun bullet at 14kJ to 18kJ according
> to this article: https://wiki2.org/en/.50_BMG
>
> In the image this is the cartridge to the left. The image is from the
> article above.
> [image: Rifle cartridge comparison.jpg]
> From left: .50 BMG, 300 Win Mag
> <https://wiki2.org/en/.300_Winchester_Magnum>, .308 Winchester
> <https://wiki2.org/en/.308_Winchester>, 7.62×39mm
> <https://wiki2.org/en/7.62%C3%9739mm>, 5.56×45mm NATO
> <https://wiki2.org/en/5.56%C3%9745mm_NATO>, .22 Long Rifle
> <https://wiki2.org/en/.22_Long_Rifle>
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>
> OK! All you guys on this site, Consider this your trip to the proverbial
> WOOD SHED!  First read the sign at entrance to my Research Farm:
>
> It says to you, H-H-O Research!
> I had two ea. of Yule Brown's BN-2000, Browns gas welders and did a lot of
> imploding the stoichiometric ratio H-H-O gas resulting in a loud PLINCK,
> sound of an implosion event.  I'm 80 years old and spent my entire life
> involved in the internal combustion technology world as first auto mechanic
> then on to a career as an Ordnance Office, vehicle and aircraft maintenance
> in addition to Military Research & Development.  All that aside, here are
> the facts of life!  In all internal combustion engines, you have to have an
> inert expanding gas (Nitrogen) that absorbs the heat of combustion of the
> fuel air mix in-order to get the driving force to produce torque or thrust
> as in a turbo jet.  Without an expansion agent all you get is a release of
> heat.     Same applies to the generation of the H_H_O gas in the
> electrolytic cell.  Back in high school chemistry class you all plunged a
> lighted splint down onto test tube of hydrogen gas split in electrolytic
> action and got the loud POP which was the burning of the hydrogen in air
> with the nitrogen giving the expansion POP!  When you com-bust H-H-O in a
> closed environment without nitrogen or any other inert gas all you get is a
> loud PLINK sound of implosion and a release of heat.  During my Elemental
> Replication experiments , I burned H-H-O in an implosion steady burn with
> a water cooled Pyrex condenser to get what I called absolutely pure
> pristine water without any signature.  Hundreds of hour of burning the
> H-H-O with no explosions due to the fact that an expansion agent was not
> present!  Doug (KONE) and I had a great friend in Eugene Mallow whom
> published several article on my Research. See an article on Peter Graneau's
> work with exploding water which goes to Gerry's comment on a H-H-O gun!
> NOT!    Gerry, You need to research how a WATER GUN works as you will see
> by reading these articles.  WOOD SHED TIME!
>
> http://www.infinite-energy.com/whoarewe/gene.html
>
> GraneauIE13-14.pdf
>
> https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.95559?journalCode=apl
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231781707_Arc-liberated_chemical_energy_exceeds_electrical_input_energy
> https://youtu.be/iC5Gu29OaOI
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_emergency_power
>
> The water gun that Peter Graneau built fired a teflon 1/2 inch diameter rod trough seven NY telephone directories with the exploding of one CC of water with a 20 killo-joule discharge of a capacitor.  It is call the water fog phenomenon.  This technology is used extensively in the explosive forming of complex aircraft parts with exotic metals like titanium.    What you take away from all this is the simple fact that you have to have an expansion agent to get thrust or driving force!  SIMPLE!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/11/2018 9:32 PM, machinationus machinationus@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
> I found out the hard way with hydrogen flame speed and it blew my hat off!
>
> It would work great in a turbine like a jet plane I'm thinking.
> It's hard to believe it could ever work in a piston engine..
>
> On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 6:02:15 p.m. MDT, James Glinski
> jglinski01@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Gerry ever think about a HHO GUN TO REPLACE gun powder ?
> On Oct 11, 2018 3:45 PM, "Gerry smokyatgroups@... [EVGRAY]" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi George,
> Nice link ...have played around with the HHO for a while too.
> Some good some bad results with neighbors come running over once to see
> what caused the explosion :)
>
> Gerry
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:48 AM george gray canowindracd@... [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> 310 miles on motorcycle on 1 litre of water.
>
> This is worth a look.  6 minute video or read it.
>
> George
>
> https://www.disclose.tv/ motorcycle-travels-310-miles-
> on-single-liter-of-water- 314288
> <https://www.disclose.tv/motorcycle-travels-310-miles-on-single-liter-of-water-314288>
>
>
>
> 
>

Norm so  hho with a cold steam ultrasonic generator as a expansion agent
would work .with the natural nitrogen in the air on a piston engine .i like
the turbo idea very efficient simple maybe even quiet .
On Oct 12, 2018 9:15 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> A lot o0f education went into the field of maintaining both internal
> combustion engines and turbo jet engines, most important was the science of
> basic fuel products and the heat content of same!  You have to understand
> how hydrocarbon fuels work in the process of producing power.
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_combustion_engine
> http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2016/ph240/cassady2/
> https://www.researchgate.net/post/Why_is_liquid_nitrogen_used_as_a_fuel_in_place_of_petrol_diesel_etc_and_why_cant_we_use_water_instead
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_catalytic_cracking
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorimeter
>
>
>  http://www.parrinst.com/products/oxygen-bomb-calorimeters/?gclid=CjwKCAjwjIHeBRAnEiwAhYT2hyeDjPNZtT8aLkQZY7d9jgXkN3HDG3kIsizHW7jI0dIYuq4K73dUARoCRVsQAvD_BwE
>
>
> At the refinery, there is a continuous analysis of fuel products as they
> are produced which tell the heat content of the hydrocarbon based fuel
> product as they add antiknock additives and ethanol blending etc.
>
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On 10/12/2018 6:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> OK! All you guys on this site, Consider this your trip to the proverbial
> WOOD SHED!  First read the sign at entrance to my Research Farm:
>
> It says to you, H-H-O Research!
> I had two ea. of Yule Brown's BN-2000, Browns gas welders and did a lot of
> imploding the stoichiometric ratio H-H-O gas resulting in a loud PLINCK,
> sound of an implosion event.  I'm 80 years old and spent my entire life
> involved in the internal combustion technology world as first auto mechanic
> then on to a career as an Ordnance Office, vehicle and aircraft maintenance
> in addition to Military Research & Development.  All that aside, here are
> the facts of life!  In all internal combustion engines, you have to have an
> inert expanding gas (Nitrogen) that absorbs the heat of combustion of the
> fuel air mix in-order to get the driving force to produce torque or thrust
> as in a turbo jet.  Without an expansion agent all you get is a release of
> heat.     Same applies to the generation of the H_H_O gas in the
> electrolytic cell.  Back in high school chemistry class you all plunged a
> lighted splint down onto test tube of hydrogen gas split in electrolytic
> action and got the loud POP which was the burning of the hydrogen in air
> with the nitrogen giving the expansion POP!  When you com-bust H-H-O in a
> closed environment without nitrogen or any other inert gas all you get is a
> loud PLINK sound of implosion and a release of heat.  During my Elemental
> Replication experiments , I burned H-H-O in an implosion steady burn with
> a water cooled Pyrex condenser to get what I called absolutely pure
> pristine water without any signature.  Hundreds of hour of burning the
> H-H-O with no explosions due to the fact that an expansion agent was not
> present!  Doug (KONE) and I had a great friend in Eugene Mallow whom
> published several article on my Research. See an article on Peter Graneau's
> work with exploding water which goes to Gerry's comment on a H-H-O gun!
> NOT!    Gerry, You need to research how a WATER GUN works as you will see
> by reading these articles.  WOOD SHED TIME!
>
> http://www.infinite-energy.com/whoarewe/gene.html
>
> GraneauIE13-14.pdf
>
> https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.95559?journalCode=apl
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231781707_Arc-liberated_chemical_energy_exceeds_electrical_input_energy
> https://youtu.be/iC5Gu29OaOI
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_emergency_power
>
> The water gun that Peter Graneau built fired a teflon 1/2 inch diameter rod trough seven NY telephone directories with the exploding of one CC of water with a 20 killo-joule discharge of a capacitor.  It is call the water fog phenomenon.  This technology is used extensively in the explosive forming of complex aircraft parts with exotic metals like titanium.    What you take away from all this is the simple fact that you have to have an expansion agent to get thrust or driving force!  SIMPLE!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/11/2018 9:32 PM, machinationus [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> wrote:
>
>
> I found out the hard way with hydrogen flame speed and it blew my hat off!
>
> It would work great in a turbine like a jet plane I'm thinking.
> It's hard to believe it could ever work in a piston engine..
>
> On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 6:02:15 p.m. MDT, James Glinski
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Gerry ever think about a HHO GUN TO REPLACE gun powder ?
> On Oct 11, 2018 3:45 PM, "Gerry [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi George,
> Nice link ...have played around with the HHO for a while too.
> Some good some bad results with neighbors come running over once to see
> what caused the explosion :)
>
> Gerry
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:48 AM george gray [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> 310 miles on motorcycle on 1 litre of water.
>
> This is worth a look.  6 minute video or read it.
>
> George
>
> https://www.disclose.tv/ motorcycle-travels-310-miles-
> on-single-liter-of-water- 314288
> <https://www.disclose.tv/motorcycle-travels-310-miles-on-single-liter-of-water-314288>
>
>
>
>
> 
>

Warren I would go naked but I'm afraid woman would get ahold of my leash
and try to walk me around .
On Oct 12, 2018 12:35 PM, "James Glinski" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Warren that's just amazing you get rid of self protection and evil just
> realizes your defenceless and goes away .why didn't I see that you guys
> have got it .now go naked and be free from sexual crime . that very rich
> couple up there that were murdered by a group of criminals in there home
> must of done something wrong .maybe the forgot to get all the forks and
> knives out ? You know it was there fault some how ?. Ho shoe laces got to
> go.
> On Oct 12, 2018 11:44 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Norman,
>>
>> 20kJ is more than a military machine gun bullet at 14kJ to 18kJ according
>> to this article: https://wiki2.org/en/.50_BMG
>>
>> In the image this is the cartridge to the left. The image is from the
>> article above.
>> [image: Rifle cartridge comparison.jpg]
>> From left: .50 BMG, 300 Win Mag
>> <https://wiki2.org/en/.300_Winchester_Magnum>, .308 Winchester
>> <https://wiki2.org/en/.308_Winchester>, 7.62×39mm
>> <https://wiki2.org/en/7.62%C3%9739mm>, 5.56×45mm NATO
>> <https://wiki2.org/en/5.56%C3%9745mm_NATO>, .22 Long Rifle
>> <https://wiki2.org/en/.22_Long_Rifle>
>>
>> Regards
>> Ole
>>
>>
>>
>> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>>
>> OK! All you guys on this site, Consider this your trip to the proverbial
>> WOOD SHED!  First read the sign at entrance to my Research Farm:
>>
>> It says to you, H-H-O Research!
>> I had two ea. of Yule Brown's BN-2000, Browns gas welders and did a lot
>> of imploding the stoichiometric ratio H-H-O gas resulting in a loud PLINCK,
>> sound of an implosion event.  I'm 80 years old and spent my entire life
>> involved in the internal combustion technology world as first auto mechanic
>> then on to a career as an Ordnance Office, vehicle and aircraft maintenance
>> in addition to Military Research & Development.  All that aside, here are
>> the facts of life!  In all internal combustion engines, you have to have an
>> inert expanding gas (Nitrogen) that absorbs the heat of combustion of the
>> fuel air mix in-order to get the driving force to produce torque or thrust
>> as in a turbo jet.  Without an expansion agent all you get is a release of
>> heat.     Same applies to the generation of the H_H_O gas in the
>> electrolytic cell.  Back in high school chemistry class you all plunged a
>> lighted splint down onto test tube of hydrogen gas split in electrolytic
>> action and got the loud POP which was the burning of the hydrogen in air
>> with the nitrogen giving the expansion POP!  When you com-bust H-H-O in a
>> closed environment without nitrogen or any other inert gas all you get is a
>> loud PLINK sound of implosion and a release of heat.  During my Elemental
>> Replication experiments , I burned H-H-O in an implosion steady burn with
>> a water cooled Pyrex condenser to get what I called absolutely pure
>> pristine water without any signature.  Hundreds of hour of burning the
>> H-H-O with no explosions due to the fact that an expansion agent was not
>> present!  Doug (KONE) and I had a great friend in Eugene Mallow whom
>> published several article on my Research. See an article on Peter Graneau's
>> work with exploding water which goes to Gerry's comment on a H-H-O gun!
>> NOT!    Gerry, You need to research how a WATER GUN works as you will see
>> by reading these articles.  WOOD SHED TIME!
>>
>> http://www.infinite-energy.com/whoarewe/gene.html
>>
>> GraneauIE13-14.pdf
>>
>> https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.95559?journalCode=apl
>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231781707_Arc-liberated_chemical_energy_exceeds_electrical_input_energy
>> https://youtu.be/iC5Gu29OaOI
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_emergency_power
>>
>> The water gun that Peter Graneau built fired a teflon 1/2 inch diameter rod trough seven NY telephone directories with the exploding of one CC of water with a 20 killo-joule discharge of a capacitor.  It is call the water fog phenomenon.  This technology is used extensively in the explosive forming of complex aircraft parts with exotic metals like titanium.    What you take away from all this is the simple fact that you have to have an expansion agent to get thrust or driving force!  SIMPLE!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/11/2018 9:32 PM, machinationus machinationus@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>> I found out the hard way with hydrogen flame speed and it blew my hat off!
>>
>> It would work great in a turbine like a jet plane I'm thinking.
>> It's hard to believe it could ever work in a piston engine..
>>
>> On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 6:02:15 p.m. MDT, James Glinski
>> jglinski01@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gerry ever think about a HHO GUN TO REPLACE gun powder ?
>> On Oct 11, 2018 3:45 PM, "Gerry smokyatgroups@... [EVGRAY]" <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi George,
>> Nice link ...have played around with the HHO for a while too.
>> Some good some bad results with neighbors come running over once to see
>> what caused the explosion :)
>>
>> Gerry
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:48 AM george gray canowindracd@... [EVGRAY] <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> 310 miles on motorcycle on 1 litre of water.
>>
>> This is worth a look.  6 minute video or read it.
>>
>> George
>>
>> https://www.disclose.tv/ motorcycle-travels-310-miles-
>> on-single-liter-of-water- 314288
>> <https://www.disclose.tv/motorcycle-travels-310-miles-on-single-liter-of-water-314288>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>

We talked to Peter & Neil Graneau at New Energy Conference at Denver and 
he told us about the 7 phone book penetration by that teflon rod. He had 
one of his guns blow out the long reach Bosch spark plug from the 
breach! Sheared the threads right of the steel. They calculated the over 
pressures in the firing of the one CC of water created 400,000 PSI.  Now 
that a gun for you!   Water fog but smokeless!  Lol


On 10/12/2018 4:25 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Norm,
>
> Thanks for a very interesting & informative post!
> Wow can't get my head around it all, need time.
>
> A woodshed and some telephone books indeed.
> Gerry
>
>
>

Hi Norm, Thanks for a very interesting & informative post!
 Wow can't get my head around it all, need time.
 

 A woodshed and some telephone books indeed.
 Gerry

Jamesol9Sexual crime is dealt with seriously, one is unlikely to be Prime Minister with a host of allegations hanging fire, in your past, in Canada.Watch out for your relatives if you are filthy rich, they might get impatient and wish to cash in.The constablatary can be surprisingly effective at catching the bad guys, and also coming promptly, when called.
Statistically, using science, the most likely  shooting victims are members of the household, where guns are kept. Siblings, toddlers, and spouses, and their teen aged friends, tend to be the recipients of the ammunition. Once some grave tragedy takes place, the entire chain of people are affected in dramatic ways, with life long impairment of happiness.As far as criminal strangers, well, even in the US  it is rare, though it can happen.When growing up, we always had a musket on the living room wall.It was issued to local farmers in Kent to be a militia, just after the American Civil War, when mad Fenians wanted to take over Canada, and made various robbery excursions across Lake Erie.My grandmother was told when she was a child, to be home before dark or the Fenians will get you.Anyhow, this gun, was booty from the British winning over Napoleon's armies in Europe, converted to cap lock, and issued to Canadian civilians, to keep the peace. Our family still kept ours. It had a bore big enough for 12 gauge to rattle around in.It is hard to imagine facing off shoulder, to shoulder, against a line of soldiers doing the same at you, at the orders of some heroic general.The Fenians failed to take over Canada, as they encountered resistance, for some reason.Canadians are funny like that.I hear my neighbour out shooting at Bambi, first thing this morning, now that deer season has started.Bambi grazed with the cattle all Summer, in the field out beside us.Well it is back to work before winter hitsCheersWarren
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  On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 1:44 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


Warren I would go naked but I'm afraid woman would get ahold of my leash and try to walk me around .  
On Oct 12, 2018 12:35 PM, "James Glinski" <[email protected]> wrote:


Warren that's just amazing you get rid of self protection and evil just realizes your defenceless and goes away .why didn't I see that you guys have got it .now go naked and be free from sexual crime . that very rich couple up there that were murdered by a group of criminals in there home must of done something wrong .maybe the forgot to get all the forks and knives out ? You know it was there fault some how ?. Ho shoe laces got to go.
On Oct 12, 2018 11:44 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

     
Hi Norman,

20kJ is more than a military machine gun bullet at 14kJ to 18kJ according to this article: https://wiki2.org/en/.50_BMG

In the image this is the cartridge to the left. The image is from the article above.

Well Warren I live in a country that was started over liberty and freedom
unfortunately that means for criminals too and they take every advantage of
it .with out perfection we would just be gone .if they can make money on
you they will .kill you in the   woom or on the streets or in your bed . as
long as it's not against the law they will do it .or where there is no law
law is trumped by technology then it's OK to terrorize you mane you break
up your marriage kill you children in there cribs or you . America the
beautiful .
On Oct 13, 2018 10:20 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Jamesol9
> Sexual crime is dealt with seriously, one is unlikely to be Prime Minister
> with a host of allegations hanging fire, in your past, in Canada.
> Watch out for your relatives if you are filthy rich, they might get
> impatient and wish to cash in.
> The constablatary can be surprisingly effective at catching the bad guys,
> and also coming promptly, when called.
> Statistically, using science, the most likely  shooting victims are
> members of the household, where guns are kept. Siblings, toddlers, and
> spouses, and their teen aged friends, tend to be the recipients of the
> ammunition. Once some grave tragedy takes place, the entire chain of people
> are affected in dramatic ways, with life long impairment of happiness.
> As far as criminal strangers, well, even in the US  it is rare, though it
> can happen.
> When growing up, we always had a musket on the living room wall.
> It was issued to local farmers in Kent to be a militia, just after the
> American Civil War, when mad Fenians wanted to take over Canada, and made
> various robbery excursions across Lake Erie.
> My grandmother was told when she was a child, to be home before dark or
> the Fenians will get you.
> Anyhow, this gun, was booty from the British winning over Napoleon's
> armies in Europe, converted to cap lock, and issued to Canadian civilians,
> to keep the peace. Our family still kept ours. It had a bore big enough for
> 12 gauge to rattle around in.
> It is hard to imagine facing off shoulder, to shoulder, against a line of
> soldiers doing the same at you, at the orders of some heroic general.
> The Fenians failed to take over Canada, as they encountered resistance,
> for some reason.
> Canadians are funny like that.
> I hear my neighbour out shooting at Bambi, first thing this morning, now
> that deer season has started.
> Bambi grazed with the cattle all Summer, in the field out beside us.
> Well it is back to work before winter hits
> CheersWarren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 1:44 PM, James Glinski [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Warren I would go naked but I'm afraid woman would get ahold of my leash
> and try to walk me around .
> On Oct 12, 2018 12:35 PM, "James Glinski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Warren that's just amazing you get rid of self protection and evil just
> realizes your defenceless and goes away .why didn't I see that you guys
> have got it .now go naked and be free from sexual crime . that very rich
> couple up there that were murdered by a group of criminals in there home
> must of done something wrong .maybe the forgot to get all the forks and
> knives out ? You know it was there fault some how ?. Ho shoe laces got to
> go.
> On Oct 12, 2018 11:44 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Norman,
>
> 20kJ is more than a military machine gun bullet at 14kJ to 18kJ according
> to this article: https://wiki2.org/en/.50_BMG
>
> In the image this is the cartridge to the left. The image is from the
> article above.
> [image: Rifle cartridge comparison.jpg]
> From left: .50 BMG, 300 Win Mag
> <https://wiki2.org/en/.300_Winchester_Magnum>, .308 Winchester
> <https://wiki2.org/en/.308_Winchester>, 7.62×39mm
> <https://wiki2.org/en/7.62%C3%9739mm>, 5.56×45mm NATO
> <https://wiki2.org/en/5.56%C3%9745mm_NATO>, .22 Long Rifle
> <https://wiki2.org/en/.22_Long_Rifle>
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>
> OK! All you guys on this site, Consider this your trip to the proverbial
> WOOD SHED!  First read the sign at entrance to my Research Farm:
>
> [image: alt]
> It says to you, H-H-O Research!
> I had two ea. of Yule Brown's BN-2000, Browns gas welders and did a lot of
> imploding the stoichiometric ratio H-H-O gas resulting in a loud PLINCK,
> sound of an implosion event.  I'm 80 years old and spent my entire life
> involved in the internal combustion technology world as first auto mechanic
> then on to a career as an Ordnance Office, vehicle and aircraft maintenance
> in addition to Military Research & Development.  All that aside, here are
> the facts of life!  In all internal combustion engines, you have to have an
> inert expanding gas (Nitrogen) that absorbs the heat of combustion of the
> fuel air mix in-order to get the driving force to produce torque or thrust
> as in a turbo jet.  Without an expansion agent all you get is a release of
> heat.     Same applies to the generation of the H_H_O gas in the
> electrolytic cell.  Back in high school chemistry class you all plunged a
> lighted splint down onto test tube of hydrogen gas split in electrolytic
> action and got the loud POP which was the burning of the hydrogen in air
> with the nitrogen giving the expansion POP!  When you com-bust H-H-O in a
> closed environment without nitrogen or any other inert gas all you get is a
> loud PLINK sound of implosion and a release of heat.  During my Elemental
> Replication experiments , I burned H-H-O in an implosion steady burn with
> a water cooled Pyrex condenser to get what I called absolutely pure
> pristine water without any signature.  Hundreds of hour of burning the
> H-H-O with no explosions due to the fact that an expansion agent was not
> present!  Doug (KONE) and I had a great friend in Eugene Mallow whom
> published several article on my Research. See an article on Peter Graneau's
> work with exploding water which goes to Gerry's comment on a H-H-O gun!
> NOT!    Gerry, You need to research how a WATER GUN works as you will see
> by reading these articles.  WOOD SHED TIME!
>
> http://www.infinite-energy.com /whoarewe/gene.html
> <http://www.infinite-energy.com/whoarewe/gene.html>
>
> GraneauIE13-14.pdf
>
> https://aip.scitation.org/doi/ abs/10.1063/1.95559?journalCod e=apl <https://aip..scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.95559?journalCode=apl>
> https://www.researchgate.net/p ublication/231781707_Arc-liber ated_chemical_energy_exceeds_ electrical_input_energy <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231781707_Arc-liberated_chemical_energy_exceeds_electrical_input_energy>
> https://youtu.be/iC5Gu29OaOI
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik i/War_emergency_power <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_emergency_power>
>
> The water gun that Peter Graneau built fired a teflon 1/2 inch diameter rod trough seven NY telephone directories with the exploding of one CC of water with a 20 killo-joule discharge of a capacitor.  It is call the water fog phenomenon.  This technology is used extensively in the explosive forming of complex aircraft parts with exotic metals like titanium.    What you take away from all this is the simple fact that you have to have an expansion agent to get thrust or driving force!  SIMPLE!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/11/2018 9:32 PM, machinationus machinationus@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
> I found out the hard way with hydrogen flame speed and it blew my hat off!
>
> It would work great in a turbine like a jet plane I'm thinking.
> It's hard to believe it could ever work in a piston engine..
>
> On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 6:02:15 p.m. MDT, James Glinski
> jglinski01@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Gerry ever think about a HHO GUN TO REPLACE gun powder ?
> On Oct 11, 2018 3:45 PM, "Gerry smokyatgroups@... <smokyatgroups@....>
> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi George,
> Nice link ...have played around with the HHO for a while too.
> Some good some bad results with neighbors come running over once to see
> what caused the explosion :)
>
> Gerry
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:48 AM george gray canowindracd@.... [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> 310 miles on motorcycle on 1 litre of water.
>
> This is worth a look.  6 minute video or read it.
>
> George
>
> https://www.disclose.tv/ motorcycle-travels-310-miles-
> on-single-liter-of-water- 314288
> <https://www.disclose.tv/motorcycle-travels-310-miles-on-single-liter-of-water-314288>
>
>
>
> 
>

When growing up, we always had a musket on the living room wall.
 It was issued to local farmers in Kent to be a militia, just after the American Civil War, when mad Fenians wanted to take over Canada, and made various robbery excursions across Lake Erie.
 

 But Warren, the Fenians WON
 

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