Re: [EVGRAY] Electromagnet - Wikipedia

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnet
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Please scroll down and read about the Bitter Solenoid which created 37 Tesla magnetic flux.  I was fortunate to have gotten a 2 inch thick book written by Bitter.  Interesting to say the least.

Norm read Thu it and nothing about voltage .as far as there concerned
voltage doesn't exist ? With I think is bs .with out it there's no Watts
all current and no volts ?? Well I kept looking and ..

By using a battery with a greater *voltage* the *strength* is increased.
You can also add more batteries to a series circuit to increase the
*strength*. What factors *affect the strength of an electromagnet*? By
increasing the number of coils of wire around an object can increase the
*strength* of the *electromagnet*. How would they Dodge this ?
On Sep 23, 2018 4:50 PM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
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Hi James,

Ideal coils as well as ideal capacitors are pure reactive components meaning they don't dissipate energy. They just store the energy. Coils and capacitors are diametrically opposites of each other. What current is for a coil voltage is for a capacitor and vice versa. This can be shown when making a circuit of just one capacitor and one coil (inductor). Applying energy to such a circuit (LC-tank) will make it oscillate continually if the energy isn't dissipated which requires some resistance. The energy is oscillating between fully magnetic (current or amps) and fully electric (tension or voltage). Thus for a coil the tension doesn't represent energy stored but only how fast the energy is moved which is the power. For a capacitor the current doesn't represent energy stored but only how fast the energy is transferred which is the power.

Real coils and capacitors have resistance because they are made of metals having resistance (usually copper and aluminum or tantalum). The resistive part is called the parasitic part when dealing with both capacitors and inductors. Inductors also have a capacitive part (between the turns as well as to the ambient) which is also a parasitic part when dealing with inductors. Capacitors also have an inductive parasitic part because when current enters them a magnetic field is created around the current path which is inductive. Even resistors have parasitic parts of inductance and capacitance because of the same reasons. Thus all the three fundamental components of electronics (i.e. the resistor, capacitor and inductor) have parts of each other intrinsic to them.

Calculating a circuit is way easier when dealing with only the ideal parts of the components. When building the calculated circuit some surprises may arise because of omitting the parasitic values in the calculations. This becomes more distinctly the higher the working frequency or the faster the switching transitions of the circuit. Even the wires or leads connecting the components have resistance capacitance and inductance. For the theory behind it for example read Ivor Catt about electromagnetism.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :

 Norm read Thu it and nothing about voltage .as far as there concerned voltage doesn't exist ? With I think is bs .with out it there's no Watts all current and no volts ?? Well I kept looking and ..
 By using a battery with a greater voltage the strength is increased. You can also add more batteries to a series circuit to increase the strength. What factors affect the strength of an electromagnet? By increasing the number of coils of wire around an object can increase the strength of the electromagnet. How would they Dodge this ?
 On Sep 23, 2018 4:50 PM, "Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
   Far out, reminiscent of an n-machine
 
 On 9/23/2018 2:37 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Even in dc there is an impedance frequency match specific to core dimensions wire turns and VOLTAGE  relative to its impedance Ω 
values ..

I had being telling it for years but the problem is people don't fucking read ! 

A DC circuit being turned on is just a very long wave AC signal half resonant tank .  

there is were AC and DC technology meets RF ... many of you had built RVs but only a few of the over 2,000,000 builders had taken notice on what happens inside an RV , if all of you do you might had have free energy a long time ago ,,,(revisit diode plug ) and its x2 half resonant RF tanks 

Latest looper  got divorced , maybe has to do with the Vrill energy or knowing the truth?  whatever came or did not came first ! ? who knows?

( Tantra is required for that ! ) 



(H) 

 

---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :

 Norm read Thu it and nothing about voltage .as far as there concerned voltage doesn't exist ? With I think is bs .with out it there's no Watts all current and no volts ?? Well I kept looking and ..
 By using a battery with a greater voltage the strength is increased. You can also add more batteries to a series circuit to increase the strength. What factors affect the strength of an electromagnet? By increasing the number of coils of wire around an object can increase the strength of the electromagnet. How would they Dodge this ?
 On Sep 23, 2018 4:50 PM, "Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
   Far out, reminiscent of an n-machine
 
 On 9/23/2018 2:37 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
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reread as i made certain corrections to it ! 
 

---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :

 Hi James,

Ideal coils as well as ideal capacitors are pure reactive components meaning they don't dissipate energy. They just store the energy. 

Coils do dissipate energy, charged capacitors dont !

Coils and capacitors are diametrically opposites of each other. What current is for a coil voltage is for a capacitor and vice versa.

OK ! 

 This can be shown when making a circuit of just one capacitor and one coil (inductor). Applying energy to such a circuit (LC-tank) will make it oscillate continually if the energy isn't dissipated which requires some resistance. The energy is oscillating between fully magnetic (current or amps) and fully electric (tension or voltage). Thus for a coil the tension doesn't represent energy stored but only how fast the energy is moved which is the power. For a capacitor the current doesn't represent energy stored but only how fast the energy is transferred which is the power.

Refer to rotary power systems as this does not quite make it 

Real coils and capacitors have resistance because they are made of metals having resistance (usually copper and aluminum or tantalum).

Coils do have permanent resistance  , capacitors don't only temporary as they charge up and its Z  (impedance ) 



 The resistive part is called the parasitic part when dealing with both capacitors and inductors. Inductors also have a capacitive part (between the turns as well as to the ambient) which is also a parasitic part when dealing with inductors. Capacitors also have an inductive parasitic part because when current enters them a magnetic field is created around the current path which is inductive. Even resistors have parasitic parts of inductance and capacitance because of the same reasons. Thus all the three fundamental components of electronics (i.e. the resistor, capacitor and inductor) have parts of each other intrinsic to them. 

partially true .. 

Calculating a circuit is way easier when dealing with only the ideal parts of the components. When building the calculated circuit some surprises may arise because of omitting the parasitic values in the calculations. This becomes more distinctly the higher the working frequency or the faster the switching transitions of the circuit. Even the wires or leads connecting the components have resistance capacitance and inductance. For the theory behind it for example read Ivor Catt about electromagnetism.


that is true as I have stated standard tolerance values escape ZPE design character needs in terms of accuracy and % of tolerances required for ZPE device replication..

even physical  location of device may make & makes tuning  the non operating machine back to standard a nightmare ...

say sample local magnetic field intensity .  

Regards
Ole
 (H)

---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :

 Norm read Thu it and nothing about voltage .as far as there concerned voltage doesn't exist ? With I think is bs .with out it there's no Watts all current and no volts ?? Well I kept looking and ..
 By using a battery with a greater voltage the strength is increased. You can also add more batteries to a series circuit to increase the strength. What factors affect the strength of an electromagnet? By increasing the number of coils of wire around an object can increase the strength of the electromagnet. How would they Dodge this ?
 On Sep 23, 2018 4:50 PM, "Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
   Far out, reminiscent of an n-machine
 
 On 9/23/2018 2:37 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 e

OleNow for the big question.Using the rules, why does Hector's RV work? It most certainly does, as I have tested it myself, quite carefully. I achieved 1.614 times more than was feeding it, a little less than others, who got 1.618, but that is close enough for validation.Why does it work?By understanding, perhaps we can use it better?Cheers Warren

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  On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 7:22 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi James,

Ideal coils as well as ideal capacitors are pure reactive components meaning they don't dissipate energy. They just store the energy. Coils and capacitors are diametrically opposites of each other. What current is for a coil voltage is for a capacitor and vice versa. This can be shown when making a circuit of just one capacitor and one coil (inductor). Applying energy to such a circuit (LC-tank) will make it oscillate continually if the energy isn't dissipated which requires some resistance. The energy is oscillating between fully magnetic (current or amps) and fully electric (tension or voltage). Thus for a coil the tension doesn't represent energy stored but only how fast the energy is moved which is the power. For a capacitor the current doesn't represent energy stored but only how fast the energy is transferred which is the power.

Real coils and capacitors have resistance because they are made of metals having resistance (usually copper and aluminum or tantalum). The resistive part is called the parasitic part when dealing with both capacitors and inductors. Inductors also have a capacitive part (between the turns as well as to the ambient) which is also a parasitic part when dealing with inductors. Capacitors also have an inductive parasitic part because when current enters them a magnetic field is created around the current path which is inductive. Even resistors have parasitic parts of inductance and capacitance because of the same reasons. Thus all the three fundamental components of electronics (i.e. the resistor, capacitor and inductor) have parts of each other intrinsic to them.

Calculating a circuit is way easier when dealing with only the ideal parts of the components. When building the calculated circuit some surprises may arise because of omitting the parasitic values in the calculations. This becomes more distinctly the higher the working frequency or the faster the switching transitions of the circuit. Even the wires or leads connecting the components have resistance capacitance and inductance. For the theory behind it for example read Ivor Catt about electromagnetism.

Regards
Ole



---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :


Norm read Thu it and nothing about voltage .as far as there concerned voltage doesn't exist ? With I think is bs .with out it there's no Watts all current and no volts ?? Well I kept looking and ..

By using a battery with a greater voltage the strength is increased. You can also add more batteries to a series circuit to increase the strength. What factors affect the strength of an electromagnet? By increasing the number of coils of wire around an object can increase the strength of the electromagnet. How would they Dodge this ?

On Sep 23, 2018 4:50 PM, "Mick mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

 
Far out, reminiscent of an n-machine

On 9/23/2018 2:37 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Hi Hector
I cannot read the words inside the purple block teply to Ole...green is fine but purple too dark...
Kone

Thats the point!  ( thanks for the cue )  you read, you experimented  you confirmed you got results ...

others did not READ did not experiment properly, their RVs sucked shit from 

a dwarf donkey ass fucked dead by a Budweiser horse and they blame me !

 

Well  i will keep saying , read my papers, read NORMANs papers & mirriads of posts ....

  Read Brian praters info all over the net , read KONEMOTORS on hi impedance coil shorting and power recovery posts and don't recycle the non working certified bullshit dynamics ..

And do the experiments properly , learn to "tune"  the circuits .. to select best parts  and tune & tune again. load to specific load or no load ! 

results will be self evident , not because i say but because thats the result you will get in the lab ,

Amen !

(H)    



---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

 Ole Now for the big question.
 Using the rules, why does Hector's RV work? It most certainly does, as I have tested it myself, quite carefully. I achieved 1.614 times more than was feeding it, a little less than others, who got 1.618, but that is close enough for validation.
 Why does it work?
 By understanding, perhaps we can use it better?
 Cheers Warren

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 On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 7:22 AM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   Hi James,

Ideal coils as well as ideal capacitors are pure reactive components meaning they don't dissipate energy. They just store the energy. Coils and capacitors are diametrically opposites of each other. What current is for a coil voltage is for a capacitor and vice versa. This can be shown when making a circuit of just one capacitor and one coil (inductor). Applying energy to such a circuit (LC-tank) will make it oscillate continually if the energy isn't dissipated which requires some resistance. The energy is oscillating between fully magnetic (current or amps) and fully electric (tension or voltage). Thus for a coil the tension doesn't represent energy stored but only how fast the energy is moved which is the power. For a capacitor the current doesn't represent energy stored but only how fast the energy is transferred which is the power.

Real coils and capacitors have resistance because they are made of metals having resistance (usually copper and aluminum or tantalum). The resistive part is called the parasitic part when dealing with both capacitors and inductors. Inductors also have a capacitive part (between the turns as well as to the ambient) which is also a parasitic part when dealing with inductors. Capacitors also have an inductive parasitic part because when current enters them a magnetic field is created around the current path which is inductive. Even resistors have parasitic parts of inductance and capacitance because of the same reasons. Thus all the three fundamental components of electronics (i.e. the resistor, capacitor and inductor) have parts of each other intrinsic to them.

Calculating a circuit is way easier when dealing with only the ideal parts of the components. When building the calculated circuit some surprises may arise because of omitting the parasitic values in the calculations. This becomes more distinctly the higher the working frequency or the faster the switching transitions of the circuit. Even the wires or leads connecting the components have resistance capacitance and inductance. For the theory behind it for example read Ivor Catt about electromagnetism.

Regards
Ole

 

---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :

 Norm read Thu it and nothing about voltage .as far as there concerned voltage doesn't exist ? With I think is bs .with out it there's no Watts all current and no volts ?? Well I kept looking and ..
 By using a battery with a greater voltage the strength is increased. You can also add more batteries to a series circuit to increase the strength. What factors affect the strength of an electromagnet? By increasing the number of coils of wire around an object can increase the strength of the electromagnet. How would they Dodge this ?
 On Sep 23, 2018 4:50 PM, "Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
   Far out, reminiscent of an n-machine
 
 On 9/23/2018 2:37 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 e

SvenWith your transverter, have you been able to determine a ratio of input to output, as of yet?The three phase motor RV works with actual measured 1.5 amps of 12 volts dc into the inverter from a battery, and puts out 2.5 amps of 12 volts dc out to the loadFrom this, I calculated 1.614 ratio.How does the Tv compare?Cheers Warren

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  On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 10:04 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Hello Hector, I'm still working on the transverter with 3 phase transformer.

I have tried to work with extreme high impedance and small high voltage capacitors, unfortunately the system becomes inefficient. I have to spend too much energy to generate FR resonance, which is the goal to operate the transformer with diode plug like this. Trying makes smart, I'm now again from 1500Volt to 400Volt with lower impedance, so the transformer can operate with much less energy in resonance but now again 140 uF are needed to operate the transformer with a current peak in the sinewave.

I think there is a point where too much impedance also has a negative effect, in the transverter, the iron acts as a magnetic amplifier, if I connect the winding so that I have to spend the lowest energy to produce FR am I correct.

My current combination consists of a diode plug which discharges into a push-pull transformer 6.3 kva 230 / 230V isolating transformer. The secondary has a Variac 6 kva which allows me to set the impedance on the batteries.

A few thoughts from my experiments.

regards

Sven Gesendet: Montag, 24. September 2018 um 15:27 Uhr
Von: "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
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Betreff: Re: [EVGRAY] Electromagnet - Wikipedia 
 
Thats the point!  ( thanks for the cue )  you read, you experimented  you confirmed you got results ...

others did not READ did not experiment properly, their RVs sucked shit from

a dwarf donkey ass fucked dead by a Budweiser horse and they blame me !

 

Well  i will keep saying , read my papers, read NORMANs papers & mirriads of posts ....

  Read Brian praters info all over the net , read KONEMOTORS on hi impedance coil shorting and power recovery posts and don't recycle the non working certified bullshit dynamics ..

And do the experiments properly , learn to "tune"  the circuits .. to select best parts  and tune & tune again. load to specific load or no load !

results will be self evident , not because i say but because thats the result you will get in the lab ,

Amen !

(H)   



---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :
 OleNow for the big question.Using the rules, why does Hector's RV work? It most certainly does, as I have tested it myself, quite carefully. I achieved 1.614 times more than was feeding it, a little less than others, who got 1.618, but that is close enough for validation.Why does it work?By understanding, perhaps we can use it better?Cheers Warren
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 7:22 AM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 
Hi James,

Ideal coils as well as ideal capacitors are pure reactive components meaning they don't dissipate energy. They just store the energy. Coils and capacitors are diametrically opposites of each other. What current is for a coil voltage is for a capacitor and vice versa. This can be shown when making a circuit of just one capacitor and one coil (inductor). Applying energy to such a circuit (LC-tank) will make it oscillate continually if the energy isn't dissipated which requires some resistance. The energy is oscillating between fully magnetic (current or amps) and fully electric (tension or voltage). Thus for a coil the tension doesn't represent energy stored but only how fast the energy is moved which is the power. For a capacitor the current doesn't represent energy stored but only how fast the energy is transferred which is the power.

Real coils and capacitors have resistance because they are made of metals having resistance (usually copper and aluminum or tantalum). The resistive part is called the parasitic part when dealing with both capacitors and inductors. Inductors also have a capacitive part (between the turns as well as to the ambient) which is also a parasitic part when dealing with inductors. Capacitors also have an inductive parasitic part because when current enters them a magnetic field is created around the current path which is inductive. Even resistors have parasitic parts of inductance and capacitance because of the same reasons. Thus all the three fundamental components of electronics (i.e. the resistor, capacitor and inductor) have parts of each other intrinsic to them.

Calculating a circuit is way easier when dealing with only the ideal parts of the components. When building the calculated circuit some surprises may arise because of omitting the parasitic values in the calculations. This becomes more distinctly the higher the working frequency or the faster the switching transitions of the circuit. Even the wires or leads connecting the components have resistance capacitance and inductance. For the theory behind it for example read Ivor Catt about electromagnetism.

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :
 
Norm read Thu it and nothing about voltage .as far as there concerned voltage doesn't exist ? With I think is bs .with out it there's no Watts all current and no volts ?? Well I kept looking and ..

By using a battery with a greater voltage the strength is increased. You can also add more batteries to a series circuit to increase the strength. What factors affect the strength of an electromagnet? By increasing the number of coils of wire around an object can increase the strength of the electromagnet. How would they Dodge this ?

On Sep 23, 2018 4:50 PM, "Mick mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 
Far out, reminiscent of an n-machine

On 9/23/2018 2:37 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
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SvenMy transformer that might be used for a Transverter, because of the large sized rectangular cross section wire, may be low impedance.I am trying to now consider the information Ole has given us, and rethink it all.Cheers Warren

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  On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 1:46 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Hi Warren,

in extreme high impedance the power ratio was very bad, really very poor efficiency. I have invested 250 watts of active power and at a load of 116 watts 230V at the inverter discharged the batteries slowly. It is difficult to measure this discharge energy in power, I think you already need special equipment, I try to increase the load on the inverter to see how the batteries behave, as I have just written.

At least I have found the way to charge the batteries, the Transverter is nothing more than a double Bedini each diode plug discharges in the battery as the surges of the Bedini or Rene Charger.

Or the batteries have to be formatted by this kind of loading, something I have read about it, but I'm not sure.

You can clearly see on the oscilloscope if you change the impedance on the Variac charging the batteries as the discharge curve changes, I go below 30 volts stopping the thyristors.

Impedance matching is required here.

I do not know if this is the right way, I know that you can operate with a Variac impedance matching at least I have read that.

Maybe Hector will report on this topic.

It is also quite difficult on the max. To switch peak. I drive both diode plugs fairly evenly to achieve the same switching times and peak voltages when triggering the thyristors, a tad too much and the system breaks down.

Have you ever seen yourself, so good videos I can not do to guess.

regards

Sven Gesendet: Montag, 24. September 2018 um 16:26 Uhr
Von: "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
An: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Electromagnet - Wikipedia 
Sven
With your transverter, have you been able to determine a ratio of input to output, as of yet?The three phase motor RV works with actual measured 1.5 amps of 12 volts dc into the inverter from a battery, and puts out 2.5 amps of 12 volts dc out to the loadFrom this, I calculated 1.614 ratio.How does the Tv compare?Cheers Warren
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 10:04 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 
 
Hello Hector, I'm still working on the transverter with 3 phase transformer.

I have tried to work with extreme high impedance and small high voltage capacitors, unfortunately the system becomes inefficient. I have to spend too much energy to generate FR resonance, which is the goal to operate the transformer with diode plug like this. Trying makes smart, I'm now again from 1500Volt to 400Volt with lower impedance, so the transformer can operate with much less energy in resonance but now again 140 uF are needed to operate the transformer with a current peak in the sinewave.

I think there is a point where too much impedance also has a negative effect, in the transverter, the iron acts as a magnetic amplifier, if I connect the winding so that I have to spend the lowest energy to produce FR am I correct.

My current combination consists of a diode plug which discharges into a push-pull transformer 6.3 kva 230 / 230V isolating transformer. The secondary has a Variac 6 kva which allows me to set the impedance on the batteries.

A few thoughts from my experiments.

regards

Sven Gesendet: Montag, 24. September 2018 um 15:27 Uhr
Von: "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [EVGRAY] Electromagnet - Wikipedia 
 
Thats the point!  ( thanks for the cue )  you read, you experimented  you confirmed you got results ...

others did not READ did not experiment properly, their RVs sucked shit from

a dwarf donkey ass fucked dead by a Budweiser horse and they blame me !

 

Well  i will keep saying , read my papers, read NORMANs papers & mirriads of posts ....

  Read Brian praters info all over the net , read KONEMOTORS on hi impedance coil shorting and power recovery posts and don't recycle the non working certified bullshit dynamics ..

And do the experiments properly , learn to "tune"  the circuits .. to select best parts  and tune & tune again. load to specific load or no load !

results will be self evident , not because i say but because thats the result you will get in the lab ,

Amen !

(H)   



---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :
 OleNow for the big question.Using the rules, why does Hector's RV work? It most certainly does, as I have tested it myself, quite carefully. I achieved 1.614 times more than was feeding it, a little less than others, who got 1.618, but that is close enough for validation.Why does it work?By understanding, perhaps we can use it better?Cheers Warren
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 7:22 AM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 
Hi James,

Ideal coils as well as ideal capacitors are pure reactive components meaning they don't dissipate energy. They just store the energy. Coils and capacitors are diametrically opposites of each other. What current is for a coil voltage is for a capacitor and vice versa. This can be shown when making a circuit of just one capacitor and one coil (inductor). Applying energy to such a circuit (LC-tank) will make it oscillate continually if the energy isn't dissipated which requires some resistance. The energy is oscillating between fully magnetic (current or amps) and fully electric (tension or voltage). Thus for a coil the tension doesn't represent energy stored but only how fast the energy is moved which is the power. For a capacitor the current doesn't represent energy stored but only how fast the energy is transferred which is the power.

Real coils and capacitors have resistance because they are made of metals having resistance (usually copper and aluminum or tantalum). The resistive part is called the parasitic part when dealing with both capacitors and inductors. Inductors also have a capacitive part (between the turns as well as to the ambient) which is also a parasitic part when dealing with inductors. Capacitors also have an inductive parasitic part because when current enters them a magnetic field is created around the current path which is inductive. Even resistors have parasitic parts of inductance and capacitance because of the same reasons. Thus all the three fundamental components of electronics (i.e. the resistor, capacitor and inductor) have parts of each other intrinsic to them.

Calculating a circuit is way easier when dealing with only the ideal parts of the components. When building the calculated circuit some surprises may arise because of omitting the parasitic values in the calculations. This becomes more distinctly the higher the working frequency or the faster the switching transitions of the circuit. Even the wires or leads connecting the components have resistance capacitance and inductance. For the theory behind it for example read Ivor Catt about electromagnetism.

Regards
Ole


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Norm read Thu it and nothing about voltage .as far as there concerned voltage doesn't exist ? With I think is bs .with out it there's no Watts all current and no volts ?? Well I kept looking and ..

By using a battery with a greater voltage the strength is increased. You can also add more batteries to a series circuit to increase the strength. What factors affect the strength of an electromagnet? By increasing the number of coils of wire around an object can increase the strength of the electromagnet. How would they Dodge this ?

On Sep 23, 2018 4:50 PM, "Mick mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 
Far out, reminiscent of an n-machine

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trick, wile holding mouse left key pass over words they will become visible ...

(H) 
 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

 Hi Hector
 I cannot read the words inside the purple block teply to Ole...green is fine but purple too dark...
 Kone

try using 3 phase vectoring as if it were a solid state RV

Hi Hector,

"Coils do dissipate energy, charged capacitors dont !"
Agree when using practical coils. Ideal coils don't dissipate energy. This is actually used for testing for superconductivity. Inducing a current in a superconductor makes the current continue and thus makes the superconductor perform like a permanent magnet. If there is the least resistance the energy will be transformed into heat and thus dissipated. This makes a voltage gradient along the resistance and then disproves the sample as being superconductive.

"that is true as I have stated standard tolerance values escape ZPE design character needs in terms of accuracy and % of tolerances required for ZPE device replication..

even physical  location of device may make & makes tuning  the non operating machine back to standard a nightmare ...

say sample local magnetic field intensity .  "
Apropos when trimming tolerances. Here is an article about the art of soldering micro electronics where the author mentions that trimming can be performed by adding or removing a bit of solder: 'Fortunately, in soldering (as in RF layout and pretty much every practice dealing with electromagnetic signal flow), beautiful work always wins. Symmetry and neatness can be easily backed by theoretical and experimental evidence that proves their necessity. For example, an asymmetric solder means that the PCB side with excessive soldering will modify the electrical properties of the part.'

And:
'On a more complicated level, there is the soldering of an IC package. For example, my soldering mentor told me how an R&D project used the excess soldering to improve matching network characteristics.' Here is article: The art of soldering from a design engineer’s perspective https://www.electronicproducts.com/Education/Career/The_art_of_soldering_from_a_design_engineer_s_perspective.aspx?utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=link&utm_medium=CasualFriday-20180921.

Regards
Ole

---In [email protected], <arkresearch@...> wrote :

 reread as i made certain corrections to it ! 
 

---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :

 Hi James,

Ideal coils as well as ideal capacitors are pure reactive components meaning they don't dissipate energy. They just store the energy. 

Coils do dissipate energy, charged capacitors dont !

Coils and capacitors are diametrically opposites of each other. What current is for a coil voltage is for a capacitor and vice versa.

OK ! 

 This can be shown when making a circuit of just one capacitor and one coil (inductor). Applying energy to such a circuit (LC-tank) will make it oscillate continually if the energy isn't dissipated which requires some resistance. The energy is oscillating between fully magnetic (current or amps) and fully electric (tension or voltage). Thus for a coil the tension doesn't represent energy stored but only how fast the energy is moved which is the power. For a capacitor the current doesn't represent energy stored but only how fast the energy is transferred which is the power.

Refer to rotary power systems as this does not quite make it 

Real coils and capacitors have resistance because they are made of metals having resistance (usually copper and aluminum or tantalum).

Coils do have permanent resistance  , capacitors don't only temporary as they charge up and its Z  (impedance ) 



 The resistive part is called the parasitic part when dealing with both capacitors and inductors. Inductors also have a capacitive part (between the turns as well as to the ambient) which is also a parasitic part when dealing with inductors. Capacitors also have an inductive parasitic part because when current enters them a magnetic field is created around the current path which is inductive. Even resistors have parasitic parts of inductance and capacitance because of the same reasons. Thus all the three fundamental components of electronics (i.e. the resistor, capacitor and inductor) have parts of each other intrinsic to them. 

partially true .. 

Calculating a circuit is way easier when dealing with only the ideal parts of the components. When building the calculated circuit some surprises may arise because of omitting the parasitic values in the calculations. This becomes more distinctly the higher the working frequency or the faster the switching transitions of the circuit. Even the wires or leads connecting the components have resistance capacitance and inductance. For the theory behind it for example read Ivor Catt about electromagnetism.


that is true as I have stated standard tolerance values escape ZPE design character needs in terms of accuracy and % of tolerances required for ZPE device replication..

even physical  location of device may make & makes tuning  the non operating machine back to standard a nightmare ...

say sample local magnetic field intensity .  

Regards
Ole
 (H)

---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :

 Norm read Thu it and nothing about voltage .as far as there concerned voltage doesn't exist ? With I think is bs .with out it there's no Watts all current and no volts ?? Well I kept looking and ..
 By using a battery with a greater voltage the strength is increased. You can also add more batteries to a series circuit to increase the strength. What factors affect the strength of an electromagnet? By increasing the number of coils of wire around an object can increase the strength of the electromagnet. How would they Dodge this ?
 On Sep 23, 2018 4:50 PM, "Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
   Far out, reminiscent of an n-machine
 
 On 9/23/2018 2:37 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Hi Warren,
 
 I haven't studied Hector's rotoverter enough to tell why it works. My guess would be to look for the Principle of Inversion given by W.B. Smith. Another UFO/ET contactee Daniel Fry also gives this principle and states that the natural laws are inverted which can be used for inverting gravity to antigravity. This can actually be done by just manipulating electrons according to Fry as also suspected by W.B. Smith and W.J. Hooper.
 
 Manipulating the sample rate of nature (all being waves according to the Rhythmodynamics theory) can invert the forces. This will make a motor work as a generator or a heater work as a cooling device etc.
 
 I have completed a small Pierre Cotnoir alike setup consisting of two hex MOSFET bridges and an Arduino board for controlling them. Instead of the generator stator six small ferrite transformers are used as this is a solid state project with no need for an actually rotating field. At least for now I don't believe it necessary for the field to actually rotate or spin. The hardware is made for being able to individually control the 24 MOSFETs which make it possible for a lot of different mixing of the waves. The first test was just two waves running mostly overlapping each other at some phase shift. This didn't give off excess energy. There was no coil shorting of individual coils as in the original device of Cotnoir.
 
 One peculiar characteristic of the setup is that when running in saturated mode it doesn't take extra energy when loading the device. I don't remember if this happens in a normal transformer.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 

---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

 Ole Now for the big question.
 Using the rules, why does Hector's RV work? It most certainly does, as I have tested it myself, quite carefully. I achieved 1.614 times more than was feeding it, a little less than others, who got 1.618, but that is close enough for validation.
 Why does it work?
 By understanding, perhaps we can use it better?
 Cheers Warren

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 On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 7:22 AM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   Hi James,

Ideal coils as well as ideal capacitors are pure reactive components meaning they don't dissipate energy. They just store the energy. Coils and capacitors are diametrically opposites of each other. What current is for a coil voltage is for a capacitor and vice versa. This can be shown when making a circuit of just one capacitor and one coil (inductor). Applying energy to such a circuit (LC-tank) will make it oscillate continually if the energy isn't dissipated which requires some resistance. The energy is oscillating between fully magnetic (current or amps) and fully electric (tension or voltage). Thus for a coil the tension doesn't represent energy stored but only how fast the energy is moved which is the power. For a capacitor the current doesn't represent energy stored but only how fast the energy is transferred which is the power.

Real coils and capacitors have resistance because they are made of metals having resistance (usually copper and aluminum or tantalum). The resistive part is called the parasitic part when dealing with both capacitors and inductors. Inductors also have a capacitive part (between the turns as well as to the ambient) which is also a parasitic part when dealing with inductors. Capacitors also have an inductive parasitic part because when current enters them a magnetic field is created around the current path which is inductive. Even resistors have parasitic parts of inductance and capacitance because of the same reasons. Thus all the three fundamental components of electronics (i.e. the resistor, capacitor and inductor) have parts of each other intrinsic to them.

Calculating a circuit is way easier when dealing with only the ideal parts of the components. When building the calculated circuit some surprises may arise because of omitting the parasitic values in the calculations. This becomes more distinctly the higher the working frequency or the faster the switching transitions of the circuit. Even the wires or leads connecting the components have resistance capacitance and inductance. For the theory behind it for example read Ivor Catt about electromagnetism.

Regards
Ole

 

---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :

 Norm read Thu it and nothing about voltage .as far as there concerned voltage doesn't exist ? With I think is bs .with out it there's no Watts all current and no volts ?? Well I kept looking and ..
 By using a battery with a greater voltage the strength is increased. You can also add more batteries to a series circuit to increase the strength. What factors affect the strength of an electromagnet? By increasing the number of coils of wire around an object can increase the strength of the electromagnet. How would they Dodge this ?
 On Sep 23, 2018 4:50 PM, "Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
   Far out, reminiscent of an n-machine
 
 On 9/23/2018 2:37 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 e

The third phase of the rotomotor....? I have a small machine shop running off of a 10 horse power 3 phase motor that generates the third leg. I use a small 120volt motor as a starter motor to start the rotation of the 10hp motor, a pony motor so to sleep. Now that being said... single phase 220 volts in to the 3ph motor. Then the third leg is pulled from the motor to a 3ph breaker box, and the 220 volt goes to that same box. The equipment is run from that box 220 volt 3 phase....the 3rd leg that is generated is wild (178 volts..) it will fry any circit board or contactor you wire it up to! But it will run the 3ph motors with no problems. 
I was wondering how or if able, to make turn the generated 3 leg into.. 120volts ... like it should be... 
Some have told me I'm able to run as many 3ph motors as i want as long as the total doesn't go over the generated 3ph 10 horse power motor. 
If a person has to attach several of these motors together could someone make a self running power unit??? Could this be free energy???  Good day!!
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone













 
-------- Original message --------From: "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> Date: 9/25/18  8:19 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Electromagnet - Wikipedia 

 



  


    
      
      
      
Its quite well explained in Seikes book !  the creation of the 3rd phase Virtual imaginary power , energy from the quantum 4D field transponded into 3d reality,

(H) 

---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

GuysI am still wondering why the Rotoverter keeps on going, rain or shine, any time, doing 1.614 over unity.It works! But it has bearings, is very heavy, and bulky, makes noise, and requires that you switch the 130mf capacitor into circuit until it gets up to speed, every time the power is shut off to the motor.As configured, it will even run a second identical Rotoverter from the first one. Wahoo!That is all interesting, but given Ole's pragmatic information, why do rotoverters work? They are not without problems, but are stable, and consistent.We should be able to engineer, or plan to combine those advantages, and minimize the disadvantages, but it is difficult, because we don't understand the voodoo that makes them go.Cheers Warren

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    On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 7:30 PM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:   
 



  


    
      
      
      Hi Hector,

"Coils do dissipate energy, charged capacitors dont !"
Agree
 when using practical coils. Ideal coils don't dissipate energy. This is
 actually used for testing for superconductivity. Inducing a current in a
 superconductor makes the current continue and thus makes the 
superconductor perform like a permanent magnet. If there is the least 
resistance the energy will be transformed into heat and thus dissipated.
 This makes a vo

GuysI am still wondering why the Rotoverter keeps on going, rain or shine, any time, doing 1.614 over unity.It works! But it has bearings, is very heavy, and bulky, makes noise, and requires that you switch the 130mf capacitor into circuit until it gets up to speed, every time the power is shut off to the motor.As configured, it will even run a second identical Rotoverter from the first one. Wahoo!That is all interesting, but given Ole's pragmatic information, why do rotoverters work? They are not without problems, but are stable, and consistent.We should be able to engineer, or plan to combine those advantages, and minimize the disadvantages, but it is difficult, because we don't understand the voodoo that makes them go.Cheers Warren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 7:30 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Hector,

"Coils do dissipate energy, charged capacitors dont !"
Agree when using practical coils. Ideal coils don't dissipate energy. This is actually used for testing for superconductivity. Inducing a current in a superconductor makes the current continue and thus makes the superconductor perform like a permanent magnet. If there is the least resistance the energy will be transformed into heat and thus dissipated. This makes a voltage gradient along the resistance and then disproves the sample as being superconductive.

"that is true as I have stated standard tolerance values escape ZPE design character needs in terms of accuracy and % of tolerances required for ZPE device replication..

even physical  location of device may make & makes tuning  the non operating machine back to standard a nightmare ...

say sample local magnetic field intensity .  "
Apropos when trimming tolerances. Here is an article about the art of soldering micro electronics where the author mentions that trimming can be performed by adding or removing a bit of solder: 'Fortunately,in soldering (as in RF layout and pretty much every practice dealing withelectromagnetic signal flow), beautiful work always wins. Symmetry and neatnesscan be easily backed by theoretical and experimental evidence that proves theirnecessity. For example, an asymmetric solder means that the PCB side withexcessive soldering will modify the electrical properties of the part.'

And:
'On a morecomplicated level, there is the soldering of an IC package. For example, mysoldering mentor told me how an R&D project used the excess soldering toimprove matching network characteristics.' Here is article: The art of soldering from a design engineer’s perspective.

Regards
Ole

---In [email protected], <arkresearch@...> wrote :


reread as i made certain corrections to it ! 


---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :

Hi James,

Ideal coils as well as ideal capacitors are purereactive components meaning they don't dissipate energy. They just storethe energy. 

Coils do dissipate energy, charged capacitors dont !

Coils and capacitors are diametrically opposites of eachother. What current is for a coil voltage is for a capacitor and viceversa.

OK ! 

 This can be shown when making a circuit of just one capacitor andone coil (inductor). Applying energy to such a circuit (LC-tank) willmake it oscillate continually if the energy isn't dissipated whichrequires some resistance. The energy is oscillating between fullymagnetic (current or amps) and fully electric (tension or voltage). Thusfor a coil the tension doesn't represent energy stored but only howfast the energy is moved which is the power. For a capacitor the currentdoesn't represent energy stored but only how fast the energy istransferred which is the power.

Refer to rotary power systems as this does not quite make it 

Real coils and capacitors haveresistance because they are made of metals having resistance (usuallycopper and aluminum or tantalum).

Coils do have permanent resistance  , capacitors don't only temporary as they charge up and its Z  (impedance ) 



 The resistive part is called theparasitic part when dealing with both capacitors and inductors.Inductors also have a capacitive part (between the turns as well as tothe ambient) which is also a parasitic part when dealing with inductors.Capacitors also have an inductive parasitic part because when currententers them a magnetic field is created around the current path which isinductive. Even resistors have parasitic parts of inductance andcapacitance because of the same reasons. Thus all the three fundamentalcomponents of electronics (i.e. the resistor, capacitor and inductor)have parts of each other intrinsic to them. 

partially true .. 

Calculating a circuitis way easier when dealing with only the ideal parts of the components.When building the calculated circuit some surprises may arise becauseof omitting the parasitic values in the calculations. This becomes moredistinctly the higher the working frequency or the faster the switchingtransitions of the circuit. Even the wires or leads connecting thecomponents have resistance capacitance and inductance. For the theorybehind it for example read Ivor Catt about electromagnetism.


that is true as I have stated standard tolerance values escape ZPE design character needs in terms of accuracy and % of tolerances required for ZPE device replication..

even physical  location of device may make & makes tuning  the non operating machine back to standard a nightmare ...

say sample local magnetic field intensity .  

Regards
Ole
(H)

---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :


Norm read Thu it and nothing about voltage .as far as there concerned voltage doesn't exist ? With I think is bs .with out it there's no Watts all current and no volts ?? Well I kept looking and ..

By using a battery with a greater voltage the strength is increased. You can also add more batteries to a series circuit to increase the strength. What factors affect the strength of an electromagnet? By increasing the number of coils of wire around an object can increase the strength of the electromagnet. How would they Dodge this ?

 

On Sep 23, 2018 4:50 PM, "Mick mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

 
Far out, reminiscent of an n-machine

On 9/23/2018 2:37 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Since you asked Warren!!

Thanks Norm!
What ever happened to Hectors RV and I have not heard much about it anymore.
I still have an email file folder named  rotoverter  but the last email in it was July 02 from DMBoss. I'll print out a copy of this pdf and read over the weekend. (at least try to read. :)
v/r

Ken Carrigan

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Norman Wootan [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 7:13 AM
>To: Hector; Carrigan, Ken
>Subject: Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
>
>
>Ken:  In the past you have shown interest in Hector's RV experiments 
>which display O/U effects.  Attached is a file that partially explains 
>how saturated iron cores can produce non-linear voltage and currents 
>which do not conform to conventional electrical circuit predictions.   
>Have fun.   Norm  P.S.  Our MRA project capitalized on this effect to 
>produce the anomalous O/U output from a saturated magnetic core driven 
>at  ferroresonance .
>


On 9/25/2018 6:10 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Guys
>
> I am still wondering why the Rotoverter keeps on going, rain or shine, 
> any time, doing 1.614 over unity.
> It works! But it has bearings, is very heavy, and bulky, makes noise, 
> and requires that you switch the 130mf capacitor into circuit until it 
> gets up to speed, every time the power is shut off to the motor.
> As configured, it will even run a second identical Rotoverter from the 
> first one. Wahoo!
> That is all interesting, but given Ole's pragmatic information, why do 
> rotoverters work?
> They are not without problems, but are stable, and consistent.
> We should be able to engineer, or plan to combine those advantages, 
> and minimize the disadvantages, but it is difficult, because we don't 
> understand the voodoo that makes them go.
> Cheers Warren
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>     On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 7:30 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     Hi Hector,
>
>     "Coils do dissipate energy, charged capacitors dont !"
>     Agree when using practical coils. Ideal coils don't dissipate
>     energy. This is actually used for testing for superconductivity.
>     Inducing a current in a superconductor makes the current continue
>     and thus makes the superconductor perform like a permanent magnet.
>     If there is the least resistance the energy will be transformed
>     into heat and thus dissipated. This makes a voltage gradient along
>     the resistance and then disproves the sample as being superconductive.
>
>     "that is true as I have stated standard tolerance values escape
>     ZPE design character needs in terms of accuracy and % of
>     tolerances required for ZPE device replication..
>
>     even physical  location of device may make & makes tuning  the non
>     operating machine back to standard a nightmare ...
>
>     say sample local magnetic field intensity . "
>     Apropos when trimming tolerances. Here is an article about the art
>     of soldering micro electronics where the author mentions that
>     trimming can be performed by adding or removing a bit of solder:
>     'Fortunately, in soldering (as in RF layout and pretty much every
>     practice dealing with electromagnetic signal flow), beautiful work
>     always wins. Symmetry and neatness can be easily backed by
>     theoretical and experimental evidence that proves their necessity.
>     For example, an asymmetric solder means that the PCB side with
>     excessive soldering will modify the electrical properties of the
>     part.'
>
>     And:
>     'On a more complicated level, there is the soldering of an IC
>     package. For example, my soldering mentor told me how an R&D
>     project used the excess soldering to improve matching network
>     characteristics.' Here is article: The art of soldering from a
>     design engineer’s perspective
>     <https://www.electronicproducts.com/Education/Career/The_art_of_soldering_from_a_design_engineer_s_perspective.aspx?utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=link&utm_medium=CasualFriday-20180921>.
>
>     Regards
>     Ole
>
>     ---In [email protected], <arkresearch@...> wrote :
>
>     reread as i made certain corrections to it !
>
>
>     ---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :
>
>     Hi James,
>
>     Ideal coils as well as ideal capacitors are pure reactive
>     components meaning they don't dissipate energy. They just store
>     the energy.
>
>     Coils do dissipate energy, charged capacitors dont !
>
>     Coils and capacitors are diametrically opposites of each other.
>     What current is for a coil voltage is for a capacitor and vice versa.
>
>     OK !
>
>      This can be shown when making a circuit of just one capacitor and
>     one coil (inductor). Applying energy to such a circuit (LC-tank)
>     will make it oscillate continually if the energy isn't dissipated
>     which requires some resistance. The energy is oscillating between
>     fully magnetic (current or amps) and fully electric (tension or
>     voltage). Thus for a coil the tension doesn't represent energy
>     stored but only how fast the energy is moved which is the power.
>     For a capacitor the current doesn't represent energy stored but
>     only how fast the energy is transferred which is the power.
>
>     Refer to rotary power systems as this does not quite make it
>
>     Real coils and capacitors have resistance because they are made of
>     metals having resistance (usually copper and aluminum or tantalum).
>
>     Coils do have permanent resistance  , capacitors don't only
>     temporary as they charge up and its Z  (impedance )
>
>
>
>      The resistive part is called the parasitic part when dealing with
>     both capacitors and inductors. Inductors also have a capacitive
>     part (between the turns as well as to the ambient) which is also a
>     parasitic part when dealing with inductors. Capacitors also have
>     an inductive parasitic part because when current enters them a
>     magnetic field is created around the current path which is
>     inductive. Even resistors have parasitic parts of inductance and
>     capacitance because of the same reasons. Thus all the three
>     fundamental components of electronics (i.e. the resistor,
>     capacitor and inductor) have parts of each other intrinsic to them.
>
>     partially true ..
>
>     Calculating a circuit is way easier when dealing with only the
>     ideal parts of the components. When building the calculated
>     circuit some surprises may arise because of omitting the parasitic
>     values in the calculations. This becomes more distinctly the
>     higher the working frequency or the faster the switching
>     transitions of the circuit. Even the wires or leads connecting the
>     components have resistance capacitance and inductance. For the
>     theory behind it for example read Ivor Catt about electromagnetism.
>
>
>     that is true as I have stated standard tolerance values escape ZPE
>     design character needs in terms of accuracy and % of tolerances
>     required for ZPE device replication..
>
>     even physical  location of device may make & makes tuning  the non
>     operating machine back to standard a nightmare ...
>
>     say sample local magnetic field intensity .
>
>     Regards
>     Ole
>     (H)
>
>     ---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :
>
>     Norm read Thu it and nothing about voltage .as far as there
>     concerned voltage doesn't exist ? With I think is bs .with out it
>     there's no Watts all current and no volts ?? Well I kept looking
>     and ..
>
>     By using a battery with a greater *voltage* the *strength* is
>     increased. You can also add more batteries to a series circuit to
>     increase the *strength*. What factors *affect the strength of an
>     electromagnet*? By increasing the number of coils of wire around
>     an object can increase the *strength* of the *electromagnet*. How
>     would they Dodge this ?
>
>                 On Sep 23, 2018 4:50 PM, "Mick mkjekyll@...
>                 <mailto:mkjekyll@...> [EVGRAY]"
>                 <[email protected]
>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>                     Far out, reminiscent of an n-machine
>
>                     On 9/23/2018 2:37 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>                     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>                     e
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