Re: [EVGRAY] Electromagnet - Wikipedia

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Since you asked Warren!!

Thanks Norm!
What ever happened to Hectors RV and I have not heard much about it anymore.
I still have an email file folder named  rotoverter  but the last email in it was July 02 from DMBoss. I'll print out a copy of this pdf and read over the weekend. (at least try to read. :)
v/r

Ken Carrigan

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Norman Wootan [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 7:13 AM
>To: Hector; Carrigan, Ken
>Subject: Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
>
>
>Ken:  In the past you have shown interest in Hector's RV experiments 
>which display O/U effects.  Attached is a file that partially explains 
>how saturated iron cores can produce non-linear voltage and currents 
>which do not conform to conventional electrical circuit predictions.   
>Have fun.   Norm  P.S.  Our MRA project capitalized on this effect to 
>produce the anomalous O/U output from a saturated magnetic core driven 
>at  ferroresonance .
>


On 9/25/2018 6:10 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Guys
>
> I am still wondering why the Rotoverter keeps on going, rain or shine, 
> any time, doing 1.614 over unity.
> It works! But it has bearings, is very heavy, and bulky, makes noise, 
> and requires that you switch the 130mf capacitor into circuit until it 
> gets up to speed, every time the power is shut off to the motor.
> As configured, it will even run a second identical Rotoverter from the 
> first one. Wahoo!
> That is all interesting, but given Ole's pragmatic information, why do 
> rotoverters work?
> They are not without problems, but are stable, and consistent.
> We should be able to engineer, or plan to combine those advantages, 
> and minimize the disadvantages, but it is difficult, because we don't 
> understand the voodoo that makes them go.
> Cheers Warren
>
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>
>     On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 7:30 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     Hi Hector,
>
>     "Coils do dissipate energy, charged capacitors dont !"
>     Agree when using practical coils. Ideal coils don't dissipate
>     energy. This is actually used for testing for superconductivity.
>     Inducing a current in a superconductor makes the current continue
>     and thus makes the superconductor perform like a permanent magnet.
>     If there is the least resistance the energy will be transformed
>     into heat and thus dissipated. This makes a voltage gradient along
>     the resistance and then disproves the sample as being superconductive.
>
>     "that is true as I have stated standard tolerance values escape
>     ZPE design character needs in terms of accuracy and % of
>     tolerances required for ZPE device replication..
>
>     even physical  location of device may make & makes tuning  the non
>     operating machine back to standard a nightmare ...
>
>     say sample local magnetic field intensity . "
>     Apropos when trimming tolerances. Here is an article about the art
>     of soldering micro electronics where the author mentions that
>     trimming can be performed by adding or removing a bit of solder:
>     'Fortunately, in soldering (as in RF layout and pretty much every
>     practice dealing with electromagnetic signal flow), beautiful work
>     always wins. Symmetry and neatness can be easily backed by
>     theoretical and experimental evidence that proves their necessity.
>     For example, an asymmetric solder means that the PCB side with
>     excessive soldering will modify the electrical properties of the
>     part.'
>
>     And:
>     'On a more complicated level, there is the soldering of an IC
>     package. For example, my soldering mentor told me how an R&D
>     project used the excess soldering to improve matching network
>     characteristics.' Here is article: The art of soldering from a
>     design engineer’s perspective
>     <https://www.electronicproducts.com/Education/Career/The_art_of_soldering_from_a_design_engineer_s_perspective.aspx?utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=link&utm_medium=CasualFriday-20180921>.
>
>     Regards
>     Ole
>
>     ---In [email protected], <arkresearch@...> wrote :
>
>     reread as i made certain corrections to it !
>
>
>     ---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :
>
>     Hi James,
>
>     Ideal coils as well as ideal capacitors are pure reactive
>     components meaning they don't dissipate energy. They just store
>     the energy.
>
>     Coils do dissipate energy, charged capacitors dont !
>
>     Coils and capacitors are diametrically opposites of each other.
>     What current is for a coil voltage is for a capacitor and vice versa.
>
>     OK !
>
>      This can be shown when making a circuit of just one capacitor and
>     one coil (inductor). Applying energy to such a circuit (LC-tank)
>     will make it oscillate continually if the energy isn't dissipated
>     which requires some resistance. The energy is oscillating between
>     fully magnetic (current or amps) and fully electric (tension or
>     voltage). Thus for a coil the tension doesn't represent energy
>     stored but only how fast the energy is moved which is the power.
>     For a capacitor the current doesn't represent energy stored but
>     only how fast the energy is transferred which is the power.
>
>     Refer to rotary power systems as this does not quite make it
>
>     Real coils and capacitors have resistance because they are made of
>     metals having resistance (usually copper and aluminum or tantalum).
>
>     Coils do have permanent resistance  , capacitors don't only
>     temporary as they charge up and its Z  (impedance )
>
>
>
>      The resistive part is called the parasitic part when dealing with
>     both capacitors and inductors. Inductors also have a capacitive
>     part (between the turns as well as to the ambient) which is also a
>     parasitic part when dealing with inductors. Capacitors also have
>     an inductive parasitic part because when current enters them a
>     magnetic field is created around the current path which is
>     inductive. Even resistors have parasitic parts of inductance and
>     capacitance because of the same reasons. Thus all the three
>     fundamental components of electronics (i.e. the resistor,
>     capacitor and inductor) have parts of each other intrinsic to them.
>
>     partially true ..
>
>     Calculating a circuit is way easier when dealing with only the
>     ideal parts of the components. When building the calculated
>     circuit some surprises may arise because of omitting the parasitic
>     values in the calculations. This becomes more distinctly the
>     higher the working frequency or the faster the switching
>     transitions of the circuit. Even the wires or leads connecting the
>     components have resistance capacitance and inductance. For the
>     theory behind it for example read Ivor Catt about electromagnetism.
>
>
>     that is true as I have stated standard tolerance values escape ZPE
>     design character needs in terms of accuracy and % of tolerances
>     required for ZPE device replication..
>
>     even physical  location of device may make & makes tuning  the non
>     operating machine back to standard a nightmare ...
>
>     say sample local magnetic field intensity .
>
>     Regards
>     Ole
>     (H)
>
>     ---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :
>
>     Norm read Thu it and nothing about voltage .as far as there
>     concerned voltage doesn't exist ? With I think is bs .with out it
>     there's no Watts all current and no volts ?? Well I kept looking
>     and ..
>
>     By using a battery with a greater *voltage* the *strength* is
>     increased. You can also add more batteries to a series circuit to
>     increase the *strength*. What factors *affect the strength of an
>     electromagnet*? By increasing the number of coils of wire around
>     an object can increase the *strength* of the *electromagnet*. How
>     would they Dodge this ?
>
>                 On Sep 23, 2018 4:50 PM, "Mick mkjekyll@...
>                 <mailto:mkjekyll@...> [EVGRAY]"
>                 <[email protected]
>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>                     Far out, reminiscent of an n-machine
>
>                     On 9/23/2018 2:37 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>                     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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