Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] the infinite magnetic field EH antenna

https://youtu.be/azfxP9lBAao        Ok!  Guys, here is something that I never thought about regarding the EV Gray Repulsion Plate experiments. (I had the EV Gray plates with the motors we found in Dodge KS.) Please note the novel idea to actually extract energy from a coil energized with HV Electrostatic potential and pulsed with colliding low voltage DC to a common ground!   This is very worthy of research and  quantification!    Here again we see the Green white spark discharge which is a clue. Think! Colliding both HV Potential with DC pulse!



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Subject: 	Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] the infinite magnetic field EH antenna
Date: 	Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:27:12 -0500
From: 	Norman Wootan <[email protected]>
To: 	[email protected]






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Subject: 	Re: [EVGRAY] the infinite magnetic field EH antenna
Date: 	Sun, 16 Sep 2018 10:51:47 -0700
From: 	Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Reply-To: 	[email protected]
To: 	[email protected]



Hi Norm,

I think I stole it from you hahaha.  Anyways I know Smith was using 
magnets in his devices or at least a very rectangular BH curve material, 
his use of the GDT was brilliant by the way.  I also know he was not 
fucking around because of the amount of experimental devices and scale 
of some of the other stuff.  As he told people he left things out of his 
explanations and the circuit diagrams have obvious issues.

I have a feeling it went like this, same way as Wesley who was visited, 
and they said "we don't care what you make or sell just as long as no 
one believes you" therefore no more demo after the first one.  He could 
have been brain blasted too where they target the person with serious 
gain extremely short waves  or he was just plain unlucky.   The fact 
that brilliant guy from Cavetonics had a stroke gives me pause.

Negative impedance, capacitance resistance, it doesn't matter, a pump is 
a pump is a pump.

BTW I don't think one needs microspheres if working with lower 
frequencies, Teslas sperical topload comes to mind and was not the TMT 
supposed to have a multitude a spheres packed around the torus topload...
Dr Tesla was so insanely brilliant the fact we are not super advanced as 
a species is because too many scientists were/are too stupid to 
understand him and the greed won out from there.

Surface plasmon polaritron, see a similarity to aether along a polished 
conductor...

Norm you still play in the lab or permanently gone crawdadding?

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/acousticsystem/resonators.html

https://econtact.ca/7_2/godman_vitruvius.pdf


On 9/16/2018 6:02 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Mick!  Glad to see someone is paying attention! Your quote! BTW.  I 
> was a friend of Smith and can verify that his goal was to capture and 
> utilize the earth magnetic fields as his source of power.  He had all 
> the maps of magnetic flux anomalies around the earth. His favorite was 
> at Little Rock AR.  You are correct in your assumption!  You mentioned 
> the Neutral Spike phenomenon.  It all goes back to the John Miliske 
> Super Light which you should re-read and appreciate its implications.  
> See: Super Light.
>
> *WHAT IS SUPERLIGHT ?*
>
> *By:Dr. John Mileweski***
>
> *SuperLight is magnetic light; it is **magneto–electric radiation**. *
>
> *Regular light is electric light or **electro–magnetic radiation**. 
> There is parity or symmetry the Universe, everything has an equal and 
> opposite mirror–image counterpart, the Ying and the Yang, right and 
> left, matter and anti matter, the electron and the positron. Why not 
> light? *
>
> *Both science and metaphysics have honored this parity law in all 
> things except light. They are wrong. **There is parity in light as 
> well ! *
>
> *I will now explain and give you more detail. *
>
> *SuperLight is the unseen force in nature that has been ignored by 
> science but real to the mystics and metaphysicians for thousands of 
> years. It has been given different names by different cultures for 
> thousands of years. *
>
> *A Nuous, Chi, Biomagnetic Energy, Wilhelm Reich's Orgone Energy, 
> Tesler's Free Earth Energy, Animal Magnetism, Space Energy, Vacuum 
> Energy, and Zero Point Energy, etc. Those who have subtle perception 
> know it is real. *
>
> *SuperLight was identified scientifically over 100 years ago when 
> James Clerk Maxwell <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/report.htm> 
> solved his famous wave equation. This occurred shortly after radio was 
> invented by Nikola Tesla 
> <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/tesla.htm>, and theoretical 
> physicists tried to find a mathematical model to explain radio waves. 
> When using positive numbers in Maxwell's Equations this explains radio 
> waves and also all forms of electro–magnetic radiation such as light, 
> radio, TV, microwaves, x–rays, etc. What his equation also explains 
> 100 years ago was SuperLight but because it was the solution that 
> comes from the use of negative numbers, **"this second solution"**was 
> ignored for over 100 years. Remember when you were taught algebra and 
> were told to ignore imaginary numbers (e.g. The square root of –1) 
> because they have no meaning in this world. Well, times have changed 
> and now we have a very valid second solution to Maxwell's equation and 
> it is SuperLight. *
>
> *In the mid 70's a scientist, Dr. William Tiller, at Stanford 
> University took another look at Maxwell's equation and asked; "What 
> does this second solution explain when interpreted in our world."_{1} *
>
> *To understand this second solution, we must first review what the 
> first or positive solution explains. The first solution is as follows: 
> Radio waves leave the antenna and radiate out into space from a point 
> source (the antenna) equally in all directions into space toward 
> infinity traveling at the speed of light. The wave is composed of a 
> large electrical component and a small magnetic component 90 degrees 
> to the electrical component. Thus named, electro–magnetic radiation. *
>
> *The second solution describes a particle wave of just the opposite 
> structure. It explains that **from infinity traveling toward the point 
> source from all directions radiates SuperLight**. This new radiation 
> is composed of a large magnetic component and a small electrical 
> component, thus the name, magneto–electric radiation. When the 
> equations are looked at more closely, one finds that **"SuperLight" 
> travels at the speed of light squared !**  10^20 meters per second,   
> or 10 billion times faster than light 
> <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/gravity2.htm>. *
>
> *It has a frequency 10 billion times higher, and has a corresponding, 
> shorter wavelength.   It therefore has a higher energy density. *
>
> *The question one asks immediately is, "if it is so powerful, how come 
> we do not feel it, or how come it is not detected scientifically?"   
> Well, the frequency is so high, its wave length so short, (4 x 10^–8 
> nano–meters, or 4 x 10^–17 meters), its velocity so fast, that it goes 
> through everything as though the substance was nearly completely 
> transparent (like glass). *
>
> *We can say the higher frequency is completely penetrating like 
> x–rays, but even more so. More information, regarding the relative 
> size, will be given later. *
>
> *WHERE DOES SUPERLIGHT COME FROM ?***
>
> *It comes out of black holes !***
>
> *First, I will describe how regular light is formed and then make the 
> analogy for SuperLight. *
>
> *Regular electro–magnetic radiation or light is formed when electric 
> monopoles give off energy. The electron in orbit about our atoms is an 
> electric monopole — as it changes its' orbit it either gives off or 
> absorbs energy in the form of electro– magnetic radiation. Sunlight is 
> converted into electricity by this process in a solar cell. Just the 
> opposite occurs in optical diodes, which convert electricity into light. *
>
> *So, electro magnetic radiation or visible light is produced when an 
> electron (an electric monopole) lowers its orbit and releases its 
> energy in the form of light. *
>
> *Now, I believe a similar event occurs in the extremely dense and hot 
> matter found in black holes. It is theorized that black holes contain 
> magnetic monopoles and when these extremely dense, extremely small, 
> extremely energetic magnetic monopoles release energy by lowering 
> their orbit they radiate magneto–electric radiation, our SuperLight. 
> So black holes really are not so black. They are radiant beings of 
> SuperLight. Of course SuperLight escapes the strong gravitation forces 
> of the black holes because its velocity is the square of the velocity 
> of light and it therefore, can easily escape._{7} *
>
> *The current scientific thinking is that in the center of every galaxy 
> in the universe is a black hole. There are billions and billions of 
> galaxies all around us, and they all are producing SuperLight. We are 
> literally bathed in a three-dimensional dynamic energy field, or an 
> "Ether" of SuperLight — a Dynamic Ether. *
>
> When you get into IONS, one should remember the negative ion fields 
> that are created around a running Tesla coil that causes chilling 
> effects.  Se my paper on What is Heat that I wrote back in the 90s.
>
> What is Heat #2
>
> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>
> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>
> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>
> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>
> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>
> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>
> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>
> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>
> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>
> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>
> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>
> junction.Historically we find thatGerman physicist,
>
> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>
> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>
> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>
> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>
> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>
> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>
> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>
> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>
> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>
> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>
> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>
> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>
> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>
> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>
> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>
> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>
> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>
> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>
> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>
> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>
> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>
> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>
> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>
> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>
> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>
> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>
> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>
> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>
> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>
> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>
> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>
> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>
> reversible situation based on polarity.
>
> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>
> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>
> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>
> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>
> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>
> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>
> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>
> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>
> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>
> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>
> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>
> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>
> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>
> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>
> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>
> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>
> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>
> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>
> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>
> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>
> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>
> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>
> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>
> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>
> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>
> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>
> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>
> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>
> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>
> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>
> question of,What is heat?We were told in theschool
>
> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>
> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>
> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>
> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>
> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>
> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>
> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>
> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>
> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>
> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>
> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>
> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>
> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>
> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>
> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>
> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>
> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>
> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>
> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>
> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>
> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>
> processes which we were taught.Everythingin chemistry is
>
> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>
> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>
> At a Vanguard Science Roundtable discussion several years ago
>
> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>
> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>
> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>
> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>
> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>
> very efficient method of air conditioning because an ion
>
> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>
> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>
> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>
> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>
> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>
> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>
> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>
> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>
> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>
> of experimentation.Norm
>
>
> BTW, when the Patent Office started researching "Super Conductivity" 
> they ran right into Tesla's work with the idea of using the Linde, 
> liquid air process to provide a super conductive Tesla Coil primary.   
> Tesla understood the power of a "Cold Sink" with electron densities of 
> a very high order!   "Hmmmmn"!
>
> More here on "Evanescent wave"!     and "critical angle"! 
> _https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_internal_reflection_
>
> On 1/16/2016 10:31 AM, Norman wrote:
>
> _https://physics.ucf.edu/~rep/publications/JournalPubs2010/ClearyGrating2010.pdf 
> <https://physics.ucf.edu/%7Erep/publications/JournalPubs2010/ClearyGrating2010.pdf>_
>
> _https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field_ This article shows 
> how to approach "Zero Loss"!       BTW, Moray, read this little note 
> regarding your "micro sphere implosion" phenomenon!  ("Evanescent wave 
> coupling is used to excite, for example, _dielectric microsphere 
> resonators 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dielectric_microsphere_resonators&action=edit&redlink=1>_.").
>
> On 1/16/2016 10:06 AM, Norman wrote:
>
> PS:
>
> Natural infrared
>
> Sunlight, at an effective temperature of 5,780 kelvins, is composed of 
> nearly thermal-spectrum radiation that is slightly more than half 
> infrared. At zenith, sunlight provides an _irradiance 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irradiance>_ of just over 1 _kilowatt 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilowatt>_ per square meter at sea 
> level. Of this energy, 527 watts is infrared radiation, 445 watts is 
> _visible light <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visible_light>_, and 32 
> watts is _ultraviolet <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet>_ 
> radiation._^[10] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared#cite_note-10> _
>
> On the surface of Earth, at far lower temperatures than the surface of 
> the Sun, almost all thermal radiation consists of infrared in various 
> wavelengths. Of these natural thermal radiation processes only 
> lightning and natural fires are hot enough to produce much visible 
> energy, and fires produce far more infrared than visible-light energy.
> If you are going to collect it you have to know what you are dealing with!
>
>
>
> On 9/15/2018 1:18 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Warren,
>>
>> Glad to see someone is paying attention, I was waiting for someone to 
>> pick up on that.  People think of the Smith device as an transformer 
>> but it is actually an antenna.  This is also what Hector talks about 
>> with his RV, RF energy modulating the phases to usable electricity 
>> through transformation.
>>
>> Most of the Smith schematics are wrong, including Zilano's which is 
>> probably a good thing or there would be many dead experimenters.
>>
>> Smith:
>>
>> HV Dc + modulated antenna = energy pump
>>
>> Don't forget to remember to remove the ions or nature creates another 
>> equilibrium, in other words the more one loads it the better the 
>> device works up to it's own engineering limitations.  Also design 
>> based on which ions one desires to work with the earth ones or air. 
>> Of course the real extreme multiplication factor comes from utilizing 
>> the return strike or neutral spike.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field
>>
>> "Electromagnetic evanescent waves have been used to exert 
>> opticalradiation pressure 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_pressure>on small particles 
>> to trap them for experimentation, or tocool 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigeration>them to very low 
>> temperatures,"
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency
>>
>> "The quantum interference in EIT can be exploited tolaser cool 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_cooling>atomic particles, even 
>> down to the quantum mechanical ground state of motion.^[2] 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency#cite_note-2> 
>> This has recently been used to directly image individual atoms 
>> trapped in anoptical lattice 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_lattice>.^[3]" 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency#cite_note-3> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Warren,
>>
>> Did you procure the buzzer that Norm gave the link for?
>>
>>
>> On 9/14/2018 8:20 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> .Mick
>>>
>>> That is most impressive for a SSB antenna.
>>> I sure could have used such a nice tool on my schooner while cruising.
>>> Do you notice how similar it is to some Don Smith, and Tesla coils?
>>> Zilano gives detailed building instructions, as well, for a very 
>>> similar coil.
>>> There seems to be a whole school of study regarding this type of 
>>> magnetic field transducer, or antenna, that we are not so familiar with.
>>> I am feeling like a chimpanzee contemplating a diode.
>>> We have a lot of work to do.
>>> Another wide band device/(antenna) might be Tesla's spiral pancake coil.
>>> I had good luck with my little experiments, using the induction 
>>> stove top and a 3 hp treadmill motor, with a lamp cord pancake coil. 
>>> The induction stove software sucked, but the basic concept was good  
>>> of driving with induction/pancake.
>>> The current amplification seemed substantial, if the motor speed, 
>>> and performance, was any indication.
>>> This other coil looks interesting,now, too.
>>> Cheers Warren
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>
>>>     On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 5:27 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Norm,
>>>
>>>     Yes the Black Hole looks super cool for energy harvesting.
>>>
>>>     What is kind of interesting is that this antenna has been around
>>>     since at least 03 and there is very little information on how to
>>>     build it.  Then of course all the engineers poo pooing it
>>>     claiming it's just a dummy load and the coax is doing all the
>>>     work because they cannot possibly relate to the additional
>>>     vector claim.  The reviews of people using it claim it works
>>>     very well in practice, lots of contacts but not all that well
>>>     with theoretical testing ie with radiated output power etc.  To
>>>     me it looks like a 90 degree phase modulated diskone where one
>>>     disk would be in counterphase to the other creating the
>>>     longitudinal field aspect same as my wireless charging of HVAC
>>>     caps.  Would be interesting to see the current/voltage phase plot.
>>>
>>>     Lights a florescent pretty well at 4 watts
>>>
>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWR5d7t0WAw
>>>     http://www.ehant.qrz.ru/eh_phase.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 9/13/2018 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Thanks! Mick, reminds me of the Sutton Black Hole Antennae that
>>>>     was presented at the Tesla Symposium.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 9/12/2018 4:49 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Here is a magnetic antenna that functions similar to Tesla's
>>>>>     wireless
>>>>>
>>>>>     http://www.eh-antenna.com/EH_HZ.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Norm,

Do you have any more background on Aarons video?    Easy to get magnets
to jump discharging through a coil, how is the setup different such as
source of DC and source of static?


On 9/18/2018 7:02 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0iYdN-pfEo
>
>
> On 9/18/2018 8:51 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> https://youtu.be/azfxP9lBAao       Ok!  Guys, here is something that I never thought about regarding the EV Gray Repulsion Plate experiments. (I had the EV Gray plates with the motors we found in Dodge KS.) Please note the novel idea to actually extract energy from a coil energized with HV Electrostatic potential and pulsed with colliding low voltage DC to a common ground!   This is very worthy of research and  quantification!    Here again we see the Green white spark discharge which is a clue. Think! Colliding both HV Potential with DC pulse!
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: 	Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] the infinite magnetic field EH antenna
>> Date: 	Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:27:12 -0500
>> From: 	Norman Wootan <[email protected]>
>> To: 	[email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: 	Re: [EVGRAY] the infinite magnetic field EH antenna
>> Date: 	Sun, 16 Sep 2018 10:51:47 -0700
>> From: 	Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: 	[email protected]
>> To: 	[email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hi Norm,
>>
>> I think I stole it from you hahaha.  Anyways I know Smith was using
>> magnets in his devices or at least a very rectangular BH curve
>> material, his use of the GDT was brilliant by the way.  I also know
>> he was not fucking around because of the amount of experimental
>> devices and scale of some of the other stuff.  As he told people he
>> left things out of his explanations and the circuit diagrams have
>> obvious issues.
>>
>> I have a feeling it went like this, same way as Wesley  who was
>> visited, and they said "we don't care what you make or sell just as
>> long as no one believes you" therefore no more demo after the first
>> one.  He could have been brain blasted too where they target the
>> person with serious gain extremely short waves  or he was just plain
>> unlucky.   The fact that brilliant guy from Cavetonics had a stroke
>> gives me pause.
>>
>> Negative impedance, capacitance resistance, it doesn't matter, a pump
>> is a pump is a pump.
>>
>> BTW I don't think one needs microspheres if working with lower
>> frequencies, Teslas sperical topload comes to mind and was not the
>> TMT supposed to have a multitude a spheres packed around the torus
>> topload...
>> Dr Tesla was so insanely brilliant the fact we are not super advanced
>> as a species is because too many scientists were/are too stupid to
>> understand him and the greed won out from there.
>>
>> Surface plasmon polaritron, see a similarity to aether along a
>> polished conductor...
>>
>> Norm you still play in the lab or permanently gone crawdadding?
>>
>> http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/acousticsystem/resonators.html
>>
>> https://econtact.ca/7_2/godman_vitruvius.pdf
>>
>>
>> On 9/16/2018 6:02 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Mick!  Glad to see someone is paying attention!  Your quote! BTW.  I
>>> was a friend of Smith and can verify that his goal was to capture
>>> and utilize the earth magnetic fields as his source of power.  He
>>> had all the maps of magnetic flux anomalies around the earth. His
>>> favorite was at Little Rock AR.  You are correct in your
>>> assumption!  You mentioned the Neutral Spike phenomenon.  It all
>>> goes back to the John Miliske Super Light which you should re-read
>>> and appreciate its implications.  See: Super Light.
>>>
>>> *WHAT IS SUPERLIGHT ?*
>>>
>>> *By:  Dr. John Mileweski***
>>>
>>> *SuperLight is magnetic light; it is **magneto–electric radiation**. *
>>>
>>> *Regular light is electric light or **electro–magnetic radiation**.
>>> There is parity or symmetry the Universe, everything has an equal
>>> and opposite mirror–image counterpart, the Ying and the Yang, right
>>> and left, matter and anti matter, the electron and the positron. Why
>>> not light? *
>>>
>>> *Both science and metaphysics have honored this parity law in all
>>> things except light. They are wrong. **  There is parity in light as
>>> well ! *
>>>
>>> *I will now explain and give you more detail. *
>>>
>>> *SuperLight is the unseen force in nature that has been ignored by
>>> science but real to the mystics and metaphysicians for thousands of
>>> years. It has been given different names by different cultures for
>>> thousands of years. *
>>>
>>> *A Nuous, Chi, Biomagnetic Energy, Wilhelm Reich's Orgone Energy,
>>> Tesler's Free Earth Energy, Animal Magnetism, Space Energy, Vacuum
>>> Energy, and Zero Point Energy, etc. Those who have subtle perception
>>> know it is real. *
>>>
>>> *SuperLight was identified scientifically over 100 years ago when
>>> James Clerk Maxwell <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/report.htm>
>>> solved his famous wave equation. This occurred shortly after radio
>>> was invented by Nikola Tesla
>>> <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/tesla.htm>, and theoretical
>>> physicists tried to find a mathematical model to explain radio
>>> waves. When using positive numbers in Maxwell's Equations this
>>> explains radio waves and also all forms of electro–magnetic
>>> radiation such as light, radio, TV, microwaves, x–rays, etc. What
>>> his equation also explains 100 years ago was SuperLight but because
>>> it was the solution that comes from the use of negative numbers,
>>> **"this second solution"**was ignored for over 100 years. Remember
>>> when you were taught algebra and were told to ignore imaginary
>>> numbers (e.g. The square root of –1) because they have no meaning in
>>> this world. Well, times have changed and now we have a very valid
>>> second solution to Maxwell's equation and it is SuperLight. *
>>>
>>> *In the mid 70's a scientist, Dr. William Tiller, at Stanford
>>> University took another look at Maxwell's equation and asked; "What
>>> does this second solution explain when interpreted in our world."_{1} *
>>>
>>> *To understand this second solution, we must first review what the
>>> first or positive solution explains. The first solution is as
>>> follows: Radio waves leave the antenna and radiate out into space
>>> from a point source (the antenna) equally in all directions into
>>> space toward infinity traveling at the speed of light. The wave is
>>> composed of a large electrical component and a small magnetic
>>> component 90 degrees to the electrical component. Thus named,
>>> electro–magnetic radiation. *
>>>
>>> *The second solution describes a particle wave of just the opposite
>>> structure. It explains that **from infinity traveling toward the
>>> point source from all directions radiates SuperLight**. This new
>>> radiation is composed of a large magnetic component and a small
>>> electrical component, thus the name, magneto–electric radiation.
>>> When the equations are looked at more closely, one finds that
>>> **"SuperLight" travels at the speed of light squared !**  10^20
>>> meters per second,   or 10 billion times faster than light
>>> <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/gravity2.htm>. *
>>>
>>> *It has a frequency 10 billion times higher, and has a
>>> corresponding, shorter wavelength.   It therefore has a higher
>>> energy density. *
>>>
>>> *The question one asks immediately is, "if it is so powerful, how
>>> come we do not feel it, or how come it is not detected
>>> scientifically?"   Well, the frequency is so high, its wave length
>>> so short, (4 x 10^–8 nano–meters, or 4 x 10^–17 meters), its
>>> velocity so fast, that it goes through everything as though the
>>> substance was nearly completely transparent (like glass). *
>>>
>>> *We can say the higher frequency is completely penetrating like
>>> x–rays, but even more so. More information, regarding the relative
>>> size, will be given later. *
>>>
>>> *WHERE DOES SUPERLIGHT COME FROM ?***
>>>
>>> *It comes out of black holes !***
>>>
>>> *First, I will describe how regular light is formed and then make
>>> the analogy for SuperLight. *
>>>
>>> *Regular electro–magnetic radiation or light is formed when electric
>>> monopoles give off energy. The electron in orbit about our atoms is
>>> an electric monopole — as it changes its' orbit it either gives off
>>> or absorbs energy in the form of electro– magnetic radiation.
>>> Sunlight is converted into electricity by this process in a solar
>>> cell. Just the opposite occurs in optical diodes, which convert
>>> electricity into light. *
>>>
>>> *So, electro magnetic radiation or visible light is produced when an
>>> electron (an electric monopole) lowers its orbit and releases its
>>> energy in the form of light. *
>>>
>>> *Now, I believe a similar event occurs in the extremely dense and
>>> hot matter found in black holes. It is theorized that black holes
>>> contain magnetic monopoles and when these extremely dense, extremely
>>> small, extremely energetic magnetic monopoles release energy by
>>> lowering their orbit they radiate magneto–electric radiation, our
>>> SuperLight. So black holes really are not so black. They are radiant
>>> beings of SuperLight. Of course SuperLight escapes the strong
>>> gravitation forces of the black holes because its velocity is the
>>> square of the velocity of light and it therefore, can easily
>>> escape._{7} *
>>>
>>> *The current scientific thinking is that in the center of every
>>> galaxy in the universe is a black hole. There are billions and
>>> billions of galaxies all around us, and they all are producing
>>> SuperLight. We are literally bathed in a three-dimensional dynamic
>>> energy field, or an "Ether" of SuperLight — a Dynamic Ether. *
>>>
>>> When you get into IONS, one should remember the negative ion fields
>>> that are created around a running Tesla coil that causes chilling
>>> effects.  Se my paper on What is Heat that I wrote back in the 90s.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>                      What is Heat #2
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>
>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>
>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>
>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.  The reason for this
>>>
>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>
>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.  My
>>>
>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>
>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>
>>> electronic cooling devices.  Would you believe that most
>>>
>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>
>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>
>>> junction.  Historically we find that  German physicist,
>>>
>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>
>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>
>>> electrical energy resulted.  Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>
>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>
>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.  It was not
>>>
>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>
>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>
>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>
>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>
>>> reversed.  These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>
>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>
>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>
>>> differentials.  In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>
>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.  In
>>>
>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>
>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>
>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>
>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>
>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>
>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>
>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.  The first
>>>
>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>
>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.   With a
>>>
>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>
>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.  Increasing
>>>
>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>
>>> and voltage.  About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>
>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>
>>> the KeelyNet BBS.   My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>
>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>
>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>
>>> thermal energy across the junction.  This is a directly
>>>
>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>
>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>
>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>
>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.  We have
>>>
>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>
>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>
>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>
>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.  Would
>>>
>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>
>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.   Back in 1840
>>>
>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>
>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>
>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>
>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>
>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>
>>> passing through the nozzles.   After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>
>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>
>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>
>>> not purely mechanical.  The atoms of the material lose or
>>>
>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>
>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>
>>> transitions between phases.  More energy is present after
>>>
>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>
>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>
>>> explained.  When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>
>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>
>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>
>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>
>>> totally not understood by modern science.  Now my suspicions
>>>
>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>
>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>
>>> question of,  What is heat?    We were told in the  school
>>>
>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>
>>> of energy.  What is the form of this energy?  Let us look at
>>>
>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>
>>> process.  When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>
>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>
>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>
>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.  The
>>>
>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.  Now
>>>
>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>
>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>
>>> net negative state or cold.  Heat or cold is based on the
>>>
>>> ion relationship in the material.  When we apply a flame
>>>
>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>
>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>
>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>
>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>
>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>
>>> (ions).  Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>
>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>
>>> how the process works.  All phase change processes work the
>>>
>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>
>>> processes which we were taught.  Everything  in chemistry is
>>>
>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>
>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>
>>> At a Vanguard Science Roundtable discussion several years ago
>>>
>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>
>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>
>>> cooling effects.  Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>
>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>
>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.  This is a
>>>
>>> very efficient method of air conditioning because an ion
>>>
>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>
>>> current involved.   It is possible to develop this ion
>>>
>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>
>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.  Remember
>>>
>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>
>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>
>>> as in the Peltier device.   I hope that this dialog will
>>>
>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>
>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>
>>> of experimentation.   Norm
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW, when the Patent Office started researching "Super Conductivity"
>>> they ran right into Tesla's work with the idea of using the Linde,
>>> liquid air process to provide a super conductive Tesla Coil
>>> primary.   Tesla understood the power of a "Cold Sink" with electron
>>> densities of a very high order!   "Hmmmmn"!
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> More here on "Evanescent wave"!     and "critical angle"!  
>>> _https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_internal_reflection_
>>>
>>> On 1/16/2016 10:31 AM, Norman wrote:
>>>
>>> _https://physics.ucf.edu/~rep/publications/JournalPubs2010/ClearyGrating2010.pdf
>>> <https://physics.ucf.edu/%7Erep/publications/JournalPubs2010/ClearyGrating2010.pdf>_
>>>
>>> _https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field_         This
>>> article shows how to approach "Zero Loss"!       BTW, Moray, read
>>> this little note regarding your "micro sphere implosion"
>>> phenomenon!  ("Evanescent wave coupling is used to excite, for
>>> example, _dielectric microsphere resonators
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dielectric_microsphere_resonators&action=edit&redlink=1>_.").
>>>
>>> On 1/16/2016 10:06 AM, Norman wrote:
>>>
>>> PS:   
>>>
>>> Natural infrared
>>>
>>> Sunlight, at an effective temperature of 5,780 kelvins, is composed
>>> of nearly thermal-spectrum radiation that is slightly more than half
>>> infrared. At zenith, sunlight provides an _irradiance
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irradiance>_ of just over 1 _kilowatt
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilowatt>_ per square meter at sea
>>> level. Of this energy, 527 watts is infrared radiation, 445 watts is
>>> _visible light <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visible_light>_, and
>>> 32 watts is _ultraviolet
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet>_ radiation._^[10]
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared#cite_note-10> _
>>>
>>> On the surface of Earth, at far lower temperatures than the surface
>>> of the Sun, almost all thermal radiation consists of infrared in
>>> various wavelengths. Of these natural thermal radiation processes
>>> only lightning and natural fires are hot enough to produce much
>>> visible energy, and fires produce far more infrared than
>>> visible-light energy.
>>> If you are going to collect it you have to know what you are dealing
>>> with!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/15/2018 1:18 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Warren,
>>>>
>>>> Glad to see someone is paying attention, I was waiting for someone
>>>> to pick up on that.  People think of the Smith device as an
>>>> transformer but it is actually an antenna.  This is also what
>>>> Hector talks about with his RV, RF energy modulating the phases to
>>>> usable electricity through transformation.
>>>>
>>>> Most of the Smith schematics are wrong, including Zilano's which is
>>>> probably a good thing or there would be many dead experimenters.
>>>>
>>>> Smith:
>>>>
>>>> HV Dc + modulated antenna = energy pump
>>>>
>>>> Don't forget to remember to remove the ions or nature creates
>>>> another equilibrium, in other words the more one loads it the
>>>> better the device works up to it's own engineering limitations. 
>>>> Also design based on which ions one desires to work with the earth
>>>> ones or air.  Of course the real extreme multiplication factor
>>>> comes from utilizing the return strike or neutral spike.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field
>>>>
>>>> "Electromagnetic evanescent waves have been used to exert
>>>> optical radiation pressure
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_pressure> on small
>>>> particles to trap them for experimentation, or to cool
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigeration> them to very low
>>>> temperatures,"
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency
>>>>
>>>> "The quantum interference in EIT can be exploited to laser cool
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_cooling> atomic particles,
>>>> even down to the quantum mechanical ground state of motion.^[2]
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency#cite_note-2>
>>>>  This has recently been used to directly image individual atoms
>>>> trapped in an optical lattice
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_lattice>. ^[3]"
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency#cite_note-3>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Warren,
>>>>
>>>> Did you procure the buzzer that Norm gave the link for?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/14/2018 8:20 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> .Mick
>>>>>
>>>>> That is most impressive for a SSB antenna.
>>>>> I sure could have used such a nice tool on my schooner while cruising.
>>>>> Do you notice how similar it is to some Don Smith, and Tesla coils?
>>>>> Zilano gives detailed building instructions, as well, for a very
>>>>> similar coil.
>>>>> There seems to be a whole school of study regarding this type of
>>>>> magnetic field transducer, or antenna, that we are not so familiar
>>>>> with.
>>>>> I am feeling like a chimpanzee contemplating a diode.
>>>>> We have a lot of work to do.
>>>>> Another wide band device/(antenna) might be Tesla's spiral pancake
>>>>> coil.
>>>>> I had good luck with my little experiments, using the induction
>>>>> stove top and a 3 hp treadmill motor, with a lamp cord pancake
>>>>> coil. The induction stove software sucked, but the basic concept
>>>>> was good  of driving with induction/pancake.
>>>>> The current amplification seemed substantial, if the motor speed,
>>>>> and performance, was any indication.
>>>>> This other coil looks interesting,now, too.
>>>>> Cheers Warren
>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 5:27 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>      
>>>>>
>>>>>     Norm,
>>>>>
>>>>>     Yes the Black Hole looks super cool for energy harvesting.
>>>>>
>>>>>     What is kind of interesting is that this antenna has been
>>>>>     around since at least 03 and there is very little information
>>>>>     on how to build it.  Then of course all the engineers poo
>>>>>     pooing it claiming it's just a dummy load and the coax is
>>>>>     doing all the work because they cannot possibly relate to the
>>>>>     additional vector claim.  The reviews of people using it claim
>>>>>     it works very well in practice, lots of contacts but not all
>>>>>     that well with theoretical testing ie with radiated output
>>>>>     power etc.  To me it looks like a 90 degree phase modulated
>>>>>     diskone where one disk would be in counterphase to the other
>>>>>     creating the longitudinal field aspect same as my wireless
>>>>>     charging of HVAC caps.  Would be interesting to see the
>>>>>     current/voltage phase plot.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Lights a florescent pretty well at 4 watts 
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWR5d7t0WAw
>>>>>     http://www.ehant.qrz.ru/eh_phase.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 9/13/2018 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Thanks! Mick, reminds me of the Sutton Black Hole Antennae
>>>>>>     that was presented at the Tesla Symposium.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 9/12/2018 4:49 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Here is a magnetic antenna that functions similar to Tesla's
>>>>>>>     wireless
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      http://www.eh-antenna.com/EH_HZ.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0iYdN-pfEo


On 9/18/2018 8:51 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> https://youtu.be/azfxP9lBAao        Ok!  Guys, here is something that I never thought about regarding the EV Gray Repulsion Plate experiments. (I had the EV Gray plates with the motors we found in Dodge KS.) Please note the novel idea to actually extract energy from a coil energized with HV Electrostatic potential and pulsed with colliding low voltage DC to a common ground!   This is very worthy of research and  quantification!    Here again we see the Green white spark discharge which is a clue. Think! Colliding both HV Potential with DC pulse!
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: 	Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] the infinite magnetic field EH antenna
> Date: 	Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:27:12 -0500
> From: 	Norman Wootan <[email protected]>
> To: 	[email protected]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: 	Re: [EVGRAY] the infinite magnetic field EH antenna
> Date: 	Sun, 16 Sep 2018 10:51:47 -0700
> From: 	Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: 	[email protected]
> To: 	[email protected]
>
>
>
> Hi Norm,
>
> I think I stole it from you hahaha.  Anyways I know Smith was using 
> magnets in his devices or at least a very rectangular BH curve 
> material, his use of the GDT was brilliant by the way.  I also know he 
> was not fucking around because of the amount of experimental devices 
> and scale of some of the other stuff.  As he told people he left 
> things out of his explanations and the circuit diagrams have obvious 
> issues.
>
> I have a feeling it went like this, same way as Wesley  who was 
> visited, and they said "we don't care what you make or sell just as 
> long as no one believes you" therefore no more demo after the first 
> one.  He could have been brain blasted too where they target the 
> person with serious gain extremely short waves  or he was just plain 
> unlucky.   The fact that brilliant guy from Cavetonics had a stroke 
> gives me pause.
>
> Negative impedance, capacitance resistance, it doesn't matter, a pump 
> is a pump is a pump.
>
> BTW I don't think one needs microspheres if working with lower 
> frequencies, Teslas sperical topload comes to mind and was not the TMT 
> supposed to have a multitude a spheres packed around the torus topload...
> Dr Tesla was so insanely brilliant the fact we are not super advanced 
> as a species is because too many scientists were/are too stupid to 
> understand him and the greed won out from there.
>
> Surface plasmon polaritron, see a similarity to aether along a 
> polished conductor...
>
> Norm you still play in the lab or permanently gone crawdadding?
>
> http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/acousticsystem/resonators.html
>
> https://econtact.ca/7_2/godman_vitruvius.pdf
>
>
> On 9/16/2018 6:02 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Mick!  Glad to see someone is paying attention!  Your quote! BTW.  I 
>> was a friend of Smith and can verify that his goal was to capture and 
>> utilize the earth magnetic fields as his source of power.  He had all 
>> the maps of magnetic flux anomalies around the earth. His favorite 
>> was at Little Rock AR.  You are correct in your assumption!  You 
>> mentioned the Neutral Spike phenomenon.  It all goes back to the John 
>> Miliske Super Light which you should re-read and appreciate its 
>> implications.  See: Super Light.
>>
>> *WHAT IS SUPERLIGHT ?*
>>
>> *By:Dr. John Mileweski***
>>
>> *SuperLight is magnetic light; it is **magneto–electric radiation**. *
>>
>> *Regular light is electric light or **electro–magnetic radiation**. 
>> There is parity or symmetry the Universe, everything has an equal and 
>> opposite mirror–image counterpart, the Ying and the Yang, right and 
>> left, matter and anti matter, the electron and the positron. Why not 
>> light? *
>>
>> *Both science and metaphysics have honored this parity law in all 
>> things except light. They are wrong. **There is parity in light as 
>> well ! *
>>
>> *I will now explain and give you more detail. *
>>
>> *SuperLight is the unseen force in nature that has been ignored by 
>> science but real to the mystics and metaphysicians for thousands of 
>> years. It has been given different names by different cultures for 
>> thousands of years. *
>>
>> *A Nuous, Chi, Biomagnetic Energy, Wilhelm Reich's Orgone Energy, 
>> Tesler's Free Earth Energy, Animal Magnetism, Space Energy, Vacuum 
>> Energy, and Zero Point Energy, etc. Those who have subtle perception 
>> know it is real. *
>>
>> *SuperLight was identified scientifically over 100 years ago when 
>> James Clerk Maxwell <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/report.htm> 
>> solved his famous wave equation. This occurred shortly after radio 
>> was invented by Nikola Tesla 
>> <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/tesla.htm>, and theoretical 
>> physicists tried to find a mathematical model to explain radio waves. 
>> When using positive numbers in Maxwell's Equations this explains 
>> radio waves and also all forms of electro–magnetic radiation such as 
>> light, radio, TV, microwaves, x–rays, etc. What his equation also 
>> explains 100 years ago was SuperLight but because it was the solution 
>> that comes from the use of negative numbers, **"this second 
>> solution"**was ignored for over 100 years. Remember when you were 
>> taught algebra and were told to ignore imaginary numbers (e.g. The 
>> square root of –1) because they have no meaning in this world. Well, 
>> times have changed and now we have a very valid second solution to 
>> Maxwell's equation and it is SuperLight. *
>>
>> *In the mid 70's a scientist, Dr. William Tiller, at Stanford 
>> University took another look at Maxwell's equation and asked; "What 
>> does this second solution explain when interpreted in our world."_{1} *
>>
>> *To understand this second solution, we must first review what the 
>> first or positive solution explains. The first solution is as 
>> follows: Radio waves leave the antenna and radiate out into space 
>> from a point source (the antenna) equally in all directions into 
>> space toward infinity traveling at the speed of light. The wave is 
>> composed of a large electrical component and a small magnetic 
>> component 90 degrees to the electrical component. Thus named, 
>> electro–magnetic radiation. *
>>
>> *The second solution describes a particle wave of just the opposite 
>> structure. It explains that **from infinity traveling toward the 
>> point source from all directions radiates SuperLight**. This new 
>> radiation is composed of a large magnetic component and a small 
>> electrical component, thus the name, magneto–electric radiation. When 
>> the equations are looked at more closely, one finds that 
>> **"SuperLight" travels at the speed of light squared !**  10^20 
>> meters per second,   or 10 billion times faster than light 
>> <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/gravity2.htm>. *
>>
>> *It has a frequency 10 billion times higher, and has a corresponding, 
>> shorter wavelength. It therefore has a higher energy density. *
>>
>> *The question one asks immediately is, "if it is so powerful, how 
>> come we do not feel it, or how come it is not detected 
>> scientifically?"   Well, the frequency is so high, its wave length so 
>> short, (4 x 10^–8 nano–meters, or 4 x 10^–17 meters), its velocity so 
>> fast, that it goes through everything as though the substance was 
>> nearly completely transparent (like glass). *
>>
>> *We can say the higher frequency is completely penetrating like 
>> x–rays, but even more so. More information, regarding the relative 
>> size, will be given later. *
>>
>> *WHERE DOES SUPERLIGHT COME FROM ?***
>>
>> *It comes out of black holes !***
>>
>> *First, I will describe how regular light is formed and then make the 
>> analogy for SuperLight. *
>>
>> *Regular electro–magnetic radiation or light is formed when electric 
>> monopoles give off energy. The electron in orbit about our atoms is 
>> an electric monopole — as it changes its' orbit it either gives off 
>> or absorbs energy in the form of electro– magnetic radiation. 
>> Sunlight is converted into electricity by this process in a solar 
>> cell. Just the opposite occurs in optical diodes, which convert 
>> electricity into light. *
>>
>> *So, electro magnetic radiation or visible light is produced when an 
>> electron (an electric monopole) lowers its orbit and releases its 
>> energy in the form of light. *
>>
>> *Now, I believe a similar event occurs in the extremely dense and hot 
>> matter found in black holes. It is theorized that black holes contain 
>> magnetic monopoles and when these extremely dense, extremely small, 
>> extremely energetic magnetic monopoles release energy by lowering 
>> their orbit they radiate magneto–electric radiation, our SuperLight. 
>> So black holes really are not so black. They are radiant beings of 
>> SuperLight. Of course SuperLight escapes the strong gravitation 
>> forces of the black holes because its velocity is the square of the 
>> velocity of light and it therefore, can easily escape._{7} *
>>
>> *The current scientific thinking is that in the center of every 
>> galaxy in the universe is a black hole. There are billions and 
>> billions of galaxies all around us, and they all are producing 
>> SuperLight. We are literally bathed in a three-dimensional dynamic 
>> energy field, or an "Ether" of SuperLight — a Dynamic Ether. *
>>
>> When you get into IONS, one should remember the negative ion fields 
>> that are created around a running Tesla coil that causes chilling 
>> effects. Se my paper on What is Heat that I wrote back in the 90s.
>>
>> What is Heat #2
>>
>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>
>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>
>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>
>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>
>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>
>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>
>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>
>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>
>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>
>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>
>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>
>> junction.Historically we find thatGerman physicist,
>>
>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>
>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>
>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>
>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>
>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>
>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>
>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>
>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>
>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>
>> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>
>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>
>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>
>> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>
>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>
>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>
>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>
>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>
>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>
>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>
>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>
>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>
>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>
>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>
>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>
>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>
>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>
>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>
>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>
>> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>
>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>
>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>
>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>
>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>
>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>
>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>
>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>
>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>
>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>
>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>
>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>
>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>
>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>
>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>
>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>
>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>
>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>
>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>
>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>
>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>
>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>
>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>
>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>
>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>
>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>
>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>
>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>
>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>
>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>
>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>
>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>
>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>
>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>
>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>
>> question of,What is heat?We were told in theschool
>>
>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>
>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>
>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>
>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>
>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>
>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>
>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>
>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>
>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>
>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>
>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>
>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>
>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>
>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>
>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>
>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>
>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>
>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>
>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>
>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>
>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>
>> processes which we were taught.Everythingin chemistry is
>>
>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>
>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>
>> At a Vanguard Science Roundtable discussion several years ago
>>
>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>
>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>
>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>
>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>
>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>
>> very efficient method of air conditioning because an ion
>>
>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>
>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>
>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>
>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>
>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>
>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>
>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>
>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>
>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>
>> of experimentation.Norm
>>
>>
>> BTW, when the Patent Office started researching "Super Conductivity" 
>> they ran right into Tesla's work with the idea of using the Linde, 
>> liquid air process to provide a super conductive Tesla Coil 
>> primary.   Tesla understood the power of a "Cold Sink" with electron 
>> densities of a very high order! "Hmmmmn"!
>>
>> More here on "Evanescent wave"!     and "critical angle"! 
>> _https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_internal_reflection_
>>
>> On 1/16/2016 10:31 AM, Norman wrote:
>>
>> _https://physics.ucf.edu/~rep/publications/JournalPubs2010/ClearyGrating2010.pdf 
>> <https://physics.ucf.edu/%7Erep/publications/JournalPubs2010/ClearyGrating2010.pdf>_
>>
>> _https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field_ This article shows 
>> how to approach "Zero Loss"!       BTW, Moray, read this little note 
>> regarding your "micro sphere implosion" phenomenon!  ("Evanescent 
>> wave coupling is used to excite, for example, _dielectric microsphere 
>> resonators 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dielectric_microsphere_resonators&action=edit&redlink=1>_.").
>>
>> On 1/16/2016 10:06 AM, Norman wrote:
>>
>> PS:
>>
>> Natural infrared
>>
>> Sunlight, at an effective temperature of 5,780 kelvins, is composed 
>> of nearly thermal-spectrum radiation that is slightly more than half 
>> infrared. At zenith, sunlight provides an _irradiance 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irradiance>_ of just over 1 _kilowatt 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilowatt>_ per square meter at sea 
>> level. Of this energy, 527 watts is infrared radiation, 445 watts is 
>> _visible light <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visible_light>_, and 32 
>> watts is _ultraviolet <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet>_ 
>> radiation._^[10] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared#cite_note-10> _
>>
>> On the surface of Earth, at far lower temperatures than the surface 
>> of the Sun, almost all thermal radiation consists of infrared in 
>> various wavelengths. Of these natural thermal radiation processes 
>> only lightning and natural fires are hot enough to produce much 
>> visible energy, and fires produce far more infrared than 
>> visible-light energy.
>> If you are going to collect it you have to know what you are dealing 
>> with!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/15/2018 1:18 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Warren,
>>>
>>> Glad to see someone is paying attention, I was waiting for someone 
>>> to pick up on that. People think of the Smith device as an 
>>> transformer but it is actually an antenna. This is also what Hector 
>>> talks about with his RV, RF energy modulating the phases to usable 
>>> electricity through transformation.
>>>
>>> Most of the Smith schematics are wrong, including Zilano's which is 
>>> probably a good thing or there would be many dead experimenters.
>>>
>>> Smith:
>>>
>>> HV Dc + modulated antenna = energy pump
>>>
>>> Don't forget to remember to remove the ions or nature creates 
>>> another equilibrium, in other words the more one loads it the better 
>>> the device works up to it's own engineering limitations.  Also 
>>> design based on which ions one desires to work with the earth ones 
>>> or air.  Of course the real extreme multiplication factor comes from 
>>> utilizing the return strike or neutral spike.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field
>>>
>>> "Electromagnetic evanescent waves have been used to exert 
>>> opticalradiation pressure 
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_pressure>on small particles 
>>> to trap them for experimentation, or tocool 
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigeration>them to very low 
>>> temperatures,"
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency
>>>
>>> "The quantum interference in EIT can be exploited tolaser cool 
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_cooling>atomic particles, even 
>>> down to the quantum mechanical ground state of motion.^[2] 
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency#cite_note-2> 
>>> This has recently been used to directly image individual atoms 
>>> trapped in anoptical lattice 
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_lattice>.^[3]" 
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency#cite_note-3> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Warren,
>>>
>>> Did you procure the buzzer that Norm gave the link for?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/14/2018 8:20 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> .Mick
>>>>
>>>> That is most impressive for a SSB antenna.
>>>> I sure could have used such a nice tool on my schooner while cruising.
>>>> Do you notice how similar it is to some Don Smith, and Tesla coils?
>>>> Zilano gives detailed building instructions, as well, for a very 
>>>> similar coil.
>>>> There seems to be a whole school of study regarding this type of 
>>>> magnetic field transducer, or antenna, that we are not so familiar 
>>>> with.
>>>> I am feeling like a chimpanzee contemplating a diode.
>>>> We have a lot of work to do.
>>>> Another wide band device/(antenna) might be Tesla's spiral pancake 
>>>> coil.
>>>> I had good luck with my little experiments, using the induction 
>>>> stove top and a 3 hp treadmill motor, with a lamp cord pancake 
>>>> coil. The induction stove software sucked, but the basic concept 
>>>> was good  of driving with induction/pancake.
>>>> The current amplification seemed substantial, if the motor speed, 
>>>> and performance, was any indication.
>>>> This other coil looks interesting,now, too.
>>>> Cheers Warren
>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>
>>>>     On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 5:27 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Norm,
>>>>
>>>>     Yes the Black Hole looks super cool for energy harvesting.
>>>>
>>>>     What is kind of interesting is that this antenna has been
>>>>     around since at least 03 and there is very little information
>>>>     on how to build it.  Then of course all the engineers poo
>>>>     pooing it claiming it's just a dummy load and the coax is doing
>>>>     all the work because they cannot possibly relate to the
>>>>     additional vector claim.  The reviews of people using it claim
>>>>     it works very well in practice, lots of contacts but not all
>>>>     that well with theoretical testing ie with radiated output
>>>>     power etc. To me it looks like a 90 degree phase modulated
>>>>     diskone where one disk would be in counterphase to the other
>>>>     creating the longitudinal field aspect same as my wireless
>>>>     charging of HVAC caps.  Would be interesting to see the
>>>>     current/voltage phase plot.
>>>>
>>>>     Lights a florescent pretty well at 4 watts
>>>>
>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWR5d7t0WAw
>>>>     http://www.ehant.qrz.ru/eh_phase.pdf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 9/13/2018 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Thanks! Mick, reminds me of the Sutton Black Hole Antennae
>>>>>     that was presented at the Tesla Symposium.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 9/12/2018 4:49 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Here is a magnetic antenna that functions similar to Tesla's
>>>>>>     wireless
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     http://www.eh-antenna.com/EH_HZ.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pOV4JNFOCE     When they pan around to 
the back bench you see the Nylon & Aluminum motors which I sold to Alen 
after the Gray Family threatened to have Sherriff recover their Dads 
property!  I did the History of the EV Gray Motor for the Keely Net 
Conference in 2001 where I met Doug Konsen.


On 9/18/2018 9:02 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0iYdN-pfEo
>
>
> On 9/18/2018 8:51 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> https://youtu.be/azfxP9lBAao        Ok!  Guys, here is something that I never thought about regarding the EV Gray Repulsion Plate experiments. (I had the EV Gray plates with the motors we found in Dodge KS.) Please note the novel idea to actually extract energy from a coil energized with HV Electrostatic potential and pulsed with colliding low voltage DC to a common ground!   This is very worthy of research and  quantification!    Here again we see the Green white spark discharge which is a clue. Think! Colliding both HV Potential with DC pulse!
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: 	Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] the infinite magnetic field EH antenna
>> Date: 	Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:27:12 -0500
>> From: 	Norman Wootan <[email protected]>
>> To: 	[email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: 	Re: [EVGRAY] the infinite magnetic field EH antenna
>> Date: 	Sun, 16 Sep 2018 10:51:47 -0700
>> From: 	Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: 	[email protected]
>> To: 	[email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Norm,
>>
>> I think I stole it from you hahaha.  Anyways I know Smith was using 
>> magnets in his devices or at least a very rectangular BH curve 
>> material, his use of the GDT was brilliant by the way.  I also know 
>> he was not fucking around because of the amount of experimental 
>> devices and scale of some of the other stuff.  As he told people he 
>> left things out of his explanations and the circuit diagrams have 
>> obvious issues.
>>
>> I have a feeling it went like this, same way as Wesley  who was 
>> visited, and they said "we don't care what you make or sell just as 
>> long as no one believes you" therefore no more demo after the first 
>> one.  He could have been brain blasted too where they target the 
>> person with serious gain extremely short waves  or he was just plain 
>> unlucky.   The fact that brilliant guy from Cavetonics had a stroke 
>> gives me pause.
>>
>> Negative impedance, capacitance resistance, it doesn't matter, a pump 
>> is a pump is a pump.
>>
>> BTW I don't think one needs microspheres if working with lower 
>> frequencies, Teslas sperical topload comes to mind and was not the 
>> TMT supposed to have a multitude a spheres packed around the torus 
>> topload...
>> Dr Tesla was so insanely brilliant the fact we are not super advanced 
>> as a species is because too many scientists were/are too stupid to 
>> understand him and the greed won out from there.
>>
>> Surface plasmon polaritron, see a similarity to aether along a 
>> polished conductor...
>>
>> Norm you still play in the lab or permanently gone crawdadding?
>>
>> http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/acousticsystem/resonators.html
>>
>> https://econtact.ca/7_2/godman_vitruvius.pdf
>>
>>
>> On 9/16/2018 6:02 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Mick!  Glad to see someone is paying attention!  Your quote! BTW.  I 
>>> was a friend of Smith and can verify that his goal was to capture 
>>> and utilize the earth magnetic fields as his source of power.  He 
>>> had all the maps of magnetic flux anomalies around the earth. His 
>>> favorite was at Little Rock AR.  You are correct in your 
>>> assumption!  You mentioned the Neutral Spike phenomenon.  It all 
>>> goes back to the John Miliske Super Light which you should re-read 
>>> and appreciate its implications.  See: Super Light.
>>>
>>> *WHAT IS SUPERLIGHT ?*
>>>
>>> *By:Dr. John Mileweski***
>>>
>>> *SuperLight is magnetic light; it is **magneto–electric radiation**. *
>>>
>>> *Regular light is electric light or **electro–magnetic radiation**. 
>>> There is parity or symmetry the Universe, everything has an equal 
>>> and opposite mirror–image counterpart, the Ying and the Yang, right 
>>> and left, matter and anti matter, the electron and the positron. Why 
>>> not light? *
>>>
>>> *Both science and metaphysics have honored this parity law in all 
>>> things except light. They are wrong. **There is parity in light as 
>>> well ! *
>>>
>>> *I will now explain and give you more detail. *
>>>
>>> *SuperLight is the unseen force in nature that has been ignored by 
>>> science but real to the mystics and metaphysicians for thousands of 
>>> years. It has been given different names by different cultures for 
>>> thousands of years. *
>>>
>>> *A Nuous, Chi, Biomagnetic Energy, Wilhelm Reich's Orgone Energy, 
>>> Tesler's Free Earth Energy, Animal Magnetism, Space Energy, Vacuum 
>>> Energy, and Zero Point Energy, etc. Those who have subtle perception 
>>> know it is real. *
>>>
>>> *SuperLight was identified scientifically over 100 years ago when 
>>> James Clerk Maxwell <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/report.htm> 
>>> solved his famous wave equation. This occurred shortly after radio 
>>> was invented by Nikola Tesla 
>>> <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/tesla.htm>, and theoretical 
>>> physicists tried to find a mathematical model to explain radio 
>>> waves. When using positive numbers in Maxwell's Equations this 
>>> explains radio waves and also all forms of electro–magnetic 
>>> radiation such as light, radio, TV, microwaves, x–rays, etc. What 
>>> his equation also explains 100 years ago was SuperLight but because 
>>> it was the solution that comes from the use of negative numbers, 
>>> **"this second solution"**was ignored for over 100 years. Remember 
>>> when you were taught algebra and were told to ignore imaginary 
>>> numbers (e.g. The square root of –1) because they have no meaning in 
>>> this world. Well, times have changed and now we have a very valid 
>>> second solution to Maxwell's equation and it is SuperLight. *
>>>
>>> *In the mid 70's a scientist, Dr. William Tiller, at Stanford 
>>> University took another look at Maxwell's equation and asked; "What 
>>> does this second solution explain when interpreted in our world."_{1} *
>>>
>>> *To understand this second solution, we must first review what the 
>>> first or positive solution explains. The first solution is as 
>>> follows: Radio waves leave the antenna and radiate out into space 
>>> from a point source (the antenna) equally in all directions into 
>>> space toward infinity traveling at the speed of light. The wave is 
>>> composed of a large electrical component and a small magnetic 
>>> component 90 degrees to the electrical component. Thus named, 
>>> electro–magnetic radiation. *
>>>
>>> *The second solution describes a particle wave of just the opposite 
>>> structure. It explains that **from infinity traveling toward the 
>>> point source from all directions radiates SuperLight**. This new 
>>> radiation is composed of a large magnetic component and a small 
>>> electrical component, thus the name, magneto–electric radiation. 
>>> When the equations are looked at more closely, one finds that 
>>> **"SuperLight" travels at the speed of light squared !**  10^20 
>>> meters per second,   or 10 billion times faster than light 
>>> <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/gravity2.htm>. *
>>>
>>> *It has a frequency 10 billion times higher, and has a 
>>> corresponding, shorter wavelength.   It therefore has a higher 
>>> energy density. *
>>>
>>> *The question one asks immediately is, "if it is so powerful, how 
>>> come we do not feel it, or how come it is not detected 
>>> scientifically?"   Well, the frequency is so high, its wave length 
>>> so short, (4 x 10^–8 nano–meters, or 4 x 10^–17 meters), its 
>>> velocity so fast, that it goes through everything as though the 
>>> substance was nearly completely transparent (like glass). *
>>>
>>> *We can say the higher frequency is completely penetrating like 
>>> x–rays, but even more so. More information, regarding the relative 
>>> size, will be given later. *
>>>
>>> *WHERE DOES SUPERLIGHT COME FROM ?***
>>>
>>> *It comes out of black holes !***
>>>
>>> *First, I will describe how regular light is formed and then make 
>>> the analogy for SuperLight. *
>>>
>>> *Regular electro–magnetic radiation or light is formed when electric 
>>> monopoles give off energy. The electron in orbit about our atoms is 
>>> an electric monopole — as it changes its' orbit it either gives off 
>>> or absorbs energy in the form of electro– magnetic radiation. 
>>> Sunlight is converted into electricity by this process in a solar 
>>> cell. Just the opposite occurs in optical diodes, which convert 
>>> electricity into light. *
>>>
>>> *So, electro magnetic radiation or visible light is produced when an 
>>> electron (an electric monopole) lowers its orbit and releases its 
>>> energy in the form of light. *
>>>
>>> *Now, I believe a similar event occurs in the extremely dense and 
>>> hot matter found in black holes. It is theorized that black holes 
>>> contain magnetic monopoles and when these extremely dense, extremely 
>>> small, extremely energetic magnetic monopoles release energy by 
>>> lowering their orbit they radiate magneto–electric radiation, our 
>>> SuperLight. So black holes really are not so black. They are radiant 
>>> beings of SuperLight. Of course SuperLight escapes the strong 
>>> gravitation forces of the black holes because its velocity is the 
>>> square of the velocity of light and it therefore, can easily 
>>> escape._{7} *
>>>
>>> *The current scientific thinking is that in the center of every 
>>> galaxy in the universe is a black hole. There are billions and 
>>> billions of galaxies all around us, and they all are producing 
>>> SuperLight. We are literally bathed in a three-dimensional dynamic 
>>> energy field, or an "Ether" of SuperLight — a Dynamic Ether. *
>>>
>>> When you get into IONS, one should remember the negative ion fields 
>>> that are created around a running Tesla coil that causes chilling 
>>> effects.  Se my paper on What is Heat that I wrote back in the 90s.
>>>
>>> What is Heat #2
>>>
>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>
>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>
>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>
>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>>
>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>
>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>>
>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>
>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>
>>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>>
>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>
>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>
>>> junction.Historically we find thatGerman physicist,
>>>
>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>
>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>
>>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>
>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>
>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>>
>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>
>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>
>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>
>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>
>>> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>
>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>
>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>
>>> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>
>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>>
>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>
>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>
>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>
>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>
>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>
>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>
>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>>
>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>
>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>>
>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>
>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>>
>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>
>>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>
>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>
>>> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>
>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>
>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>
>>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>>
>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>
>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>
>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>
>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>>
>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>
>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>
>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>
>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>>
>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>
>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>>
>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>
>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>
>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>
>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>
>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>
>>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>
>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>
>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>
>>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>>
>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>
>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>
>>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>>
>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>
>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>
>>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>
>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>
>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>
>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>
>>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>>
>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>
>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>
>>> question of,What is heat?We were told in theschool
>>>
>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>
>>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>>
>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>
>>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>
>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>
>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>
>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>>
>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>>
>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>
>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>
>>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>>
>>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>>
>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>
>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>
>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>
>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>
>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>
>>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>
>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>
>>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>>
>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>
>>> processes which we were taught.Everythingin chemistry is
>>>
>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>
>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>
>>> At a Vanguard Science Roundtable discussion several years ago
>>>
>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>
>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>
>>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>
>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>
>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>>
>>> very efficient method of air conditioning because an ion
>>>
>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>
>>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>>
>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>
>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>>
>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>
>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>
>>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>>
>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>
>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>
>>> of experimentation.Norm
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW, when the Patent Office started researching "Super Conductivity" 
>>> they ran right into Tesla's work with the idea of using the Linde, 
>>> liquid air process to provide a super conductive Tesla Coil 
>>> primary.   Tesla understood the power of a "Cold Sink" with electron 
>>> densities of a very high order!   "Hmmmmn"!
>>>
>>> More here on "Evanescent wave"!     and "critical angle"! 
>>> _https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_internal_reflection_
>>>
>>> On 1/16/2016 10:31 AM, Norman wrote:
>>>
>>> _https://physics.ucf.edu/~rep/publications/JournalPubs2010/ClearyGrating2010.pdf 
>>> <https://physics.ucf.edu/%7Erep/publications/JournalPubs2010/ClearyGrating2010.pdf>_
>>>
>>> _https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field_ This article shows 
>>> how to approach "Zero Loss"!       BTW, Moray, read this little note 
>>> regarding your "micro sphere implosion" phenomenon!  ("Evanescent 
>>> wave coupling is used to excite, for example, _dielectric 
>>> microsphere resonators 
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dielectric_microsphere_resonators&action=edit&redlink=1>_.").
>>>
>>> On 1/16/2016 10:06 AM, Norman wrote:
>>>
>>> PS:
>>>
>>> Natural infrared
>>>
>>> Sunlight, at an effective temperature of 5,780 kelvins, is composed 
>>> of nearly thermal-spectrum radiation that is slightly more than half 
>>> infrared. At zenith, sunlight provides an _irradiance 
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irradiance>_ of just over 1 _kilowatt 
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilowatt>_ per square meter at sea 
>>> level. Of this energy, 527 watts is infrared radiation, 445 watts is 
>>> _visible light <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visible_light>_, and 
>>> 32 watts is _ultraviolet 
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet>_ radiation._^[10] 
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared#cite_note-10> _
>>>
>>> On the surface of Earth, at far lower temperatures than the surface 
>>> of the Sun, almost all thermal radiation consists of infrared in 
>>> various wavelengths. Of these natural thermal radiation processes 
>>> only lightning and natural fires are hot enough to produce much 
>>> visible energy, and fires produce far more infrared than 
>>> visible-light energy.
>>> If you are going to collect it you have to know what you are dealing 
>>> with!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/15/2018 1:18 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Warren,
>>>>
>>>> Glad to see someone is paying attention, I was waiting for someone 
>>>> to pick up on that.  People think of the Smith device as an 
>>>> transformer but it is actually an antenna.  This is also what 
>>>> Hector talks about with his RV, RF energy modulating the phases to 
>>>> usable electricity through transformation.
>>>>
>>>> Most of the Smith schematics are wrong, including Zilano's which is 
>>>> probably a good thing or there would be many dead experimenters.
>>>>
>>>> Smith:
>>>>
>>>> HV Dc + modulated antenna = energy pump
>>>>
>>>> Don't forget to remember to remove the ions or nature creates 
>>>> another equilibrium, in other words the more one loads it the 
>>>> better the device works up to it's own engineering limitations.  
>>>> Also design based on which ions one desires to work with the earth 
>>>> ones or air.  Of course the real extreme multiplication factor 
>>>> comes from utilizing the return strike or neutral spike.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field
>>>>
>>>> "Electromagnetic evanescent waves have been used to exert 
>>>> opticalradiation pressure 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_pressure>on small 
>>>> particles to trap them for experimentation, or tocool 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigeration>them to very low 
>>>> temperatures,"
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency
>>>>
>>>> "The quantum interference in EIT can be exploited tolaser cool 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_cooling>atomic particles, even 
>>>> down to the quantum mechanical ground state of motion.^[2] 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency#cite_note-2> 
>>>> This has recently been used to directly image individual atoms 
>>>> trapped in anoptical lattice 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_lattice>.^[3]" 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency#cite_note-3> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Warren,
>>>>
>>>> Did you procure the buzzer that Norm gave the link for?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/14/2018 8:20 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> .Mick
>>>>>
>>>>> That is most impressive for a SSB antenna.
>>>>> I sure could have used such a nice tool on my schooner while cruising.
>>>>> Do you notice how similar it is to some Don Smith, and Tesla coils?
>>>>> Zilano gives detailed building instructions, as well, for a very 
>>>>> similar coil.
>>>>> There seems to be a whole school of study regarding this type of 
>>>>> magnetic field transducer, or antenna, that we are not so familiar 
>>>>> with.
>>>>> I am feeling like a chimpanzee contemplating a diode.
>>>>> We have a lot of work to do.
>>>>> Another wide band device/(antenna) might be Tesla's spiral pancake 
>>>>> coil.
>>>>> I had good luck with my little experiments, using the induction 
>>>>> stove top and a 3 hp treadmill motor, with a lamp cord pancake 
>>>>> coil. The induction stove software sucked, but the basic concept 
>>>>> was good  of driving with induction/pancake.
>>>>> The current amplification seemed substantial, if the motor speed, 
>>>>> and performance, was any indication.
>>>>> This other coil looks interesting,now, too.
>>>>> Cheers Warren
>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>>>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 5:27 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Norm,
>>>>>
>>>>>     Yes the Black Hole looks super cool for energy harvesting.
>>>>>
>>>>>     What is kind of interesting is that this antenna has been
>>>>>     around since at least 03 and there is very little information
>>>>>     on how to build it.  Then of course all the engineers poo
>>>>>     pooing it claiming it's just a dummy load and the coax is
>>>>>     doing all the work because they cannot possibly relate to the
>>>>>     additional vector claim.  The reviews of people using it claim
>>>>>     it works very well in practice, lots of contacts but not all
>>>>>     that well with theoretical testing ie with radiated output
>>>>>     power etc.  To me it looks like a 90 degree phase modulated
>>>>>     diskone where one disk would be in counterphase to the other
>>>>>     creating the longitudinal field aspect same as my wireless
>>>>>     charging of HVAC caps.  Would be interesting to see the
>>>>>     current/voltage phase plot.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Lights a florescent pretty well at 4 watts
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWR5d7t0WAw
>>>>>     http://www.ehant.qrz.ru/eh_phase.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 9/13/2018 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Thanks! Mick, reminds me of the Sutton Black Hole Antennae
>>>>>>     that was presented at the Tesla Symposium.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 9/12/2018 4:49 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Here is a magnetic antenna that functions similar to Tesla's
>>>>>>>     wireless
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     http://www.eh-antenna.com/EH_HZ.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> 
>

http://www.keelynet.com/knconf.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK_-n9Tus7o


On 9/18/2018 9:26 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pOV4JNFOCE When they pan around to 
> the back bench you see the Nylon & Aluminum motors which I sold to 
> Alen after the Gray Family threatened to have Sherriff recover their 
> Dads property!  I did the History of the EV Gray Motor for the Keely 
> Net Conference in 2001 where I met Doug Konsen.
>
>
> On 9/18/2018 9:02 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0iYdN-pfEo
>>
>>
>> On 9/18/2018 8:51 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/azfxP9lBAao        Ok!  Guys, here is something that I never thought about regarding the EV Gray Repulsion Plate experiments. (I had the EV Gray plates with the motors we found in Dodge KS.) Please note the novel idea to actually extract energy from a coil energized with HV Electrostatic potential and pulsed with colliding low voltage DC to a common ground!   This is very worthy of research and  quantification!    Here again we see the Green white spark discharge which is a clue. Think! Colliding both HV Potential with DC pulse!
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject: 	Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] the infinite magnetic field EH antenna
>>> Date: 	Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:27:12 -0500
>>> From: 	Norman Wootan <[email protected]>
>>> To: 	[email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject: 	Re: [EVGRAY] the infinite magnetic field EH antenna
>>> Date: 	Sun, 16 Sep 2018 10:51:47 -0700
>>> From: 	Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>> Reply-To: 	[email protected]
>>> To: 	[email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Norm,
>>>
>>> I think I stole it from you hahaha.  Anyways I know Smith was using 
>>> magnets in his devices or at least a very rectangular BH curve 
>>> material, his use of the GDT was brilliant by the way.  I also know 
>>> he was not fucking around because of the amount of experimental 
>>> devices and scale of some of the other stuff.  As he told people he 
>>> left things out of his explanations and the circuit diagrams have 
>>> obvious issues.
>>>
>>> I have a feeling it went like this, same way as Wesley  who was 
>>> visited, and they said "we don't care what you make or sell just as 
>>> long as no one believes you" therefore no more demo after the first 
>>> one.  He could have been brain blasted too where they target the 
>>> person with serious gain extremely short waves  or he was just plain 
>>> unlucky.   The fact that brilliant guy from Cavetonics had a stroke 
>>> gives me pause.
>>>
>>> Negative impedance, capacitance resistance, it doesn't matter, a 
>>> pump is a pump is a pump.
>>>
>>> BTW I don't think one needs microspheres if working with lower 
>>> frequencies, Teslas sperical topload comes to mind and was not the 
>>> TMT supposed to have a multitude a spheres packed around the torus 
>>> topload...
>>> Dr Tesla was so insanely brilliant the fact we are not super 
>>> advanced as a species is because too many scientists were/are too 
>>> stupid to understand him and the greed won out from there.
>>>
>>> Surface plasmon polaritron, see a similarity to aether along a 
>>> polished conductor...
>>>
>>> Norm you still play in the lab or permanently gone crawdadding?
>>>
>>> http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/acousticsystem/resonators.html
>>>
>>> https://econtact.ca/7_2/godman_vitruvius.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/16/2018 6:02 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mick!  Glad to see someone is paying attention!  Your quote! BTW.  
>>>> I was a friend of Smith and can verify that his goal was to capture 
>>>> and utilize the earth magnetic fields as his source of power.  He 
>>>> had all the maps of magnetic flux anomalies around the earth. His 
>>>> favorite was at Little Rock AR.  You are correct in your 
>>>> assumption! You mentioned the Neutral Spike phenomenon. It all goes 
>>>> back to the John Miliske Super Light which you should re-read and 
>>>> appreciate its implications.  See: Super Light.
>>>>
>>>> *WHAT IS SUPERLIGHT ?*
>>>>
>>>> *By:Dr. John Mileweski***
>>>>
>>>> *SuperLight is magnetic light; it is **magneto–electric radiation**. *
>>>>
>>>> *Regular light is electric light or **electro–magnetic radiation**. 
>>>> There is parity or symmetry the Universe, everything has an equal 
>>>> and opposite mirror–image counterpart, the Ying and the Yang, right 
>>>> and left, matter and anti matter, the electron and the positron. 
>>>> Why not light? *
>>>>
>>>> *Both science and metaphysics have honored this parity law in all 
>>>> things except light. They are wrong. **There is parity in light as 
>>>> well ! *
>>>>
>>>> *I will now explain and give you more detail. *
>>>>
>>>> *SuperLight is the unseen force in nature that has been ignored by 
>>>> science but real to the mystics and metaphysicians for thousands of 
>>>> years. It has been given different names by different cultures for 
>>>> thousands of years. *
>>>>
>>>> *A Nuous, Chi, Biomagnetic Energy, Wilhelm Reich's Orgone Energy, 
>>>> Tesler's Free Earth Energy, Animal Magnetism, Space Energy, Vacuum 
>>>> Energy, and Zero Point Energy, etc. Those who have subtle 
>>>> perception know it is real. *
>>>>
>>>> *SuperLight was identified scientifically over 100 years ago when 
>>>> James Clerk Maxwell <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/report.htm> 
>>>> solved his famous wave equation. This occurred shortly after radio 
>>>> was invented by Nikola Tesla 
>>>> <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/tesla.htm>, and theoretical 
>>>> physicists tried to find a mathematical model to explain radio 
>>>> waves. When using positive numbers in Maxwell's Equations this 
>>>> explains radio waves and also all forms of electro–magnetic 
>>>> radiation such as light, radio, TV, microwaves, x–rays, etc. What 
>>>> his equation also explains 100 years ago was SuperLight but because 
>>>> it was the solution that comes from the use of negative numbers, 
>>>> **"this second solution"**was ignored for over 100 years. Remember 
>>>> when you were taught algebra and were told to ignore imaginary 
>>>> numbers (e.g. The square root of –1) because they have no meaning 
>>>> in this world. Well, times have changed and now we have a very 
>>>> valid second solution to Maxwell's equation and it is SuperLight. *
>>>>
>>>> *In the mid 70's a scientist, Dr. William Tiller, at Stanford 
>>>> University took another look at Maxwell's equation and asked; "What 
>>>> does this second solution explain when interpreted in our world."_{1} *
>>>>
>>>> *To understand this second solution, we must first review what the 
>>>> first or positive solution explains. The first solution is as 
>>>> follows: Radio waves leave the antenna and radiate out into space 
>>>> from a point source (the antenna) equally in all directions into 
>>>> space toward infinity traveling at the speed of light. The wave is 
>>>> composed of a large electrical component and a small magnetic 
>>>> component 90 degrees to the electrical component. Thus named, 
>>>> electro–magnetic radiation. *
>>>>
>>>> *The second solution describes a particle wave of just the opposite 
>>>> structure. It explains that **from infinity traveling toward the 
>>>> point source from all directions radiates SuperLight**. This new 
>>>> radiation is composed of a large magnetic component and a small 
>>>> electrical component, thus the name, magneto–electric radiation. 
>>>> When the equations are looked at more closely, one finds that 
>>>> **"SuperLight" travels at the speed of light squared !**  10^20 
>>>> meters per second, or 10 billion times faster than light 
>>>> <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/gravity2.htm>. *
>>>>
>>>> *It has a frequency 10 billion times higher, and has a 
>>>> corresponding, shorter wavelength.   It therefore has a higher 
>>>> energy density. *
>>>>
>>>> *The question one asks immediately is, "if it is so powerful, how 
>>>> come we do not feel it, or how come it is not detected 
>>>> scientifically?"   Well, the frequency is so high, its wave length 
>>>> so short, (4 x 10^–8 nano–meters, or 4 x 10^–17 meters), its 
>>>> velocity so fast, that it goes through everything as though the 
>>>> substance was nearly completely transparent (like glass). *
>>>>
>>>> *We can say the higher frequency is completely penetrating like 
>>>> x–rays, but even more so. More information, regarding the relative 
>>>> size, will be given later. *
>>>>
>>>> *WHERE DOES SUPERLIGHT COME FROM ?***
>>>>
>>>> *It comes out of black holes !***
>>>>
>>>> *First, I will describe how regular light is formed and then make 
>>>> the analogy for SuperLight. *
>>>>
>>>> *Regular electro–magnetic radiation or light is formed when 
>>>> electric monopoles give off energy. The electron in orbit about our 
>>>> atoms is an electric monopole — as it changes its' orbit it either 
>>>> gives off or absorbs energy in the form of electro– magnetic 
>>>> radiation. Sunlight is converted into electricity by this process 
>>>> in a solar cell. Just the opposite occurs in optical diodes, which 
>>>> convert electricity into light. *
>>>>
>>>> *So, electro magnetic radiation or visible light is produced when 
>>>> an electron (an electric monopole) lowers its orbit and releases 
>>>> its energy in the form of light. *
>>>>
>>>> *Now, I believe a similar event occurs in the extremely dense and 
>>>> hot matter found in black holes. It is theorized that black holes 
>>>> contain magnetic monopoles and when these extremely dense, 
>>>> extremely small, extremely energetic magnetic monopoles release 
>>>> energy by lowering their orbit they radiate magneto–electric 
>>>> radiation, our SuperLight. So black holes really are not so black. 
>>>> They are radiant beings of SuperLight. Of course SuperLight escapes 
>>>> the strong gravitation forces of the black holes because its 
>>>> velocity is the square of the velocity of light and it therefore, 
>>>> can easily escape._{7} *
>>>>
>>>> *The current scientific thinking is that in the center of every 
>>>> galaxy in the universe is a black hole. There are billions and 
>>>> billions of galaxies all around us, and they all are producing 
>>>> SuperLight. We are literally bathed in a three-dimensional dynamic 
>>>> energy field, or an "Ether" of SuperLight — a Dynamic Ether. *
>>>>
>>>> When you get into IONS, one should remember the negative ion fields 
>>>> that are created around a running Tesla coil that causes chilling 
>>>> effects.  Se my paper on What is Heat that I wrote back in the 90s.
>>>>
>>>> What is Heat #2
>>>>
>>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>>
>>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>>
>>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>>
>>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>>>
>>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>>
>>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>>>
>>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>>
>>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>>
>>>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>>>
>>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>>
>>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>>
>>>> junction.Historically we find thatGerman physicist,
>>>>
>>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>>
>>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>>
>>>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>>
>>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>>
>>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>>>
>>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>>
>>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>>
>>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>>
>>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>>
>>>> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>>
>>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>>
>>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>>
>>>> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>>
>>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>>>
>>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>>
>>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>>
>>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>>
>>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>>
>>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>>
>>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>>
>>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>>>
>>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>>
>>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>>>
>>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>>
>>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>>>
>>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>>
>>>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>>
>>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>>
>>>> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>>
>>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>>
>>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>>
>>>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>>>
>>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>>
>>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>>
>>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>>
>>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>>>
>>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>>
>>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>>
>>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>>
>>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>>>
>>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>>
>>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>>>
>>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>>
>>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>>
>>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>>
>>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>>
>>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>>
>>>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>>
>>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>>
>>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>>
>>>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>>>
>>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>>
>>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>>
>>>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>>>
>>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>>
>>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>>
>>>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>>
>>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>>
>>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>>
>>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>>
>>>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>>>
>>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>>
>>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>>
>>>> question of,What is heat?We were told in theschool
>>>>
>>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>>
>>>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>>>
>>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>>
>>>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>>
>>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>>
>>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>>
>>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>>>
>>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>>>
>>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>>
>>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>>
>>>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>>>
>>>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>>>
>>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>>
>>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>>
>>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>>
>>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>>
>>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>>
>>>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>>
>>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>>
>>>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>>>
>>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>>
>>>> processes which we were taught.Everythingin chemistry is
>>>>
>>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>>
>>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>>
>>>> At a Vanguard Science Roundtable discussion several years ago
>>>>
>>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>>
>>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>>
>>>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>>
>>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>>
>>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>>>
>>>> very efficient method of air conditioning because an ion
>>>>
>>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>>
>>>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>>>
>>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>>
>>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>>>
>>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>>
>>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>>
>>>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>>>
>>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>>
>>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>>
>>>> of experimentation.Norm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BTW, when the Patent Office started researching "Super 
>>>> Conductivity" they ran right into Tesla's work with the idea of 
>>>> using the Linde, liquid air process to provide a super conductive 
>>>> Tesla Coil primary.   Tesla understood the power of a "Cold Sink" 
>>>> with electron densities of a very high order!   "Hmmmmn"!
>>>>
>>>> More here on "Evanescent wave"!     and "critical angle"! 
>>>> _https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_internal_reflection_
>>>>
>>>> On 1/16/2016 10:31 AM, Norman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> _https://physics.ucf.edu/~rep/publications/JournalPubs2010/ClearyGrating2010.pdf 
>>>> <https://physics.ucf.edu/%7Erep/publications/JournalPubs2010/ClearyGrating2010.pdf>_
>>>>
>>>> _https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field_ This article shows 
>>>> how to approach "Zero Loss"!       BTW, Moray, read this little 
>>>> note regarding your "micro sphere implosion" phenomenon!  
>>>> ("Evanescent wave coupling is used to excite, for example, 
>>>> _dielectric microsphere resonators 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dielectric_microsphere_resonators&action=edit&redlink=1>_.").
>>>>
>>>> On 1/16/2016 10:06 AM, Norman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> PS:
>>>>
>>>> Natural infrared
>>>>
>>>> Sunlight, at an effective temperature of 5,780 kelvins, is composed 
>>>> of nearly thermal-spectrum radiation that is slightly more than 
>>>> half infrared. At zenith, sunlight provides an _irradiance 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irradiance>_ of just over 1 
>>>> _kilowatt <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilowatt>_ per square 
>>>> meter at sea level. Of this energy, 527 watts is infrared 
>>>> radiation, 445 watts is _visible light 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visible_light>_, and 32 watts is 
>>>> _ultraviolet <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet>_ 
>>>> radiation._^[10] 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared#cite_note-10> _
>>>>
>>>> On the surface of Earth, at far lower temperatures than the surface 
>>>> of the Sun, almost all thermal radiation consists of infrared in 
>>>> various wavelengths. Of these natural thermal radiation processes 
>>>> only lightning and natural fires are hot enough to produce much 
>>>> visible energy, and fires produce far more infrared than 
>>>> visible-light energy.
>>>> If you are going to collect it you have to know what you are 
>>>> dealing with!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/15/2018 1:18 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Warren,
>>>>>
>>>>> Glad to see someone is paying attention, I was waiting for someone 
>>>>> to pick up on that.  People think of the Smith device as an 
>>>>> transformer but it is actually an antenna.  This is also what 
>>>>> Hector talks about with his RV, RF energy modulating the phases to 
>>>>> usable electricity through transformation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most of the Smith schematics are wrong, including Zilano's which 
>>>>> is probably a good thing or there would be many dead experimenters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Smith:
>>>>>
>>>>> HV Dc + modulated antenna = energy pump
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't forget to remember to remove the ions or nature creates 
>>>>> another equilibrium, in other words the more one loads it the 
>>>>> better the device works up to it's own engineering limitations. 
>>>>> Also design based on which ions one desires to work with the earth 
>>>>> ones or air.  Of course the real extreme multiplication factor 
>>>>> comes from utilizing the return strike or neutral spike.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field
>>>>>
>>>>> "Electromagnetic evanescent waves have been used to exert 
>>>>> opticalradiation pressure 
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_pressure>on small 
>>>>> particles to trap them for experimentation, or tocool 
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigeration>them to very low 
>>>>> temperatures,"
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency
>>>>>
>>>>> "The quantum interference in EIT can be exploited tolaser cool 
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_cooling>atomic particles, 
>>>>> even down to the quantum mechanical ground state of motion.^[2] 
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency#cite_note-2> 
>>>>> This has recently been used to directly image individual atoms 
>>>>> trapped in anoptical lattice 
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_lattice>.^[3]" 
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency#cite_note-3> 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Warren,
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you procure the buzzer that Norm gave the link for?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/14/2018 8:20 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .Mick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is most impressive for a SSB antenna.
>>>>>> I sure could have used such a nice tool on my schooner while 
>>>>>> cruising.
>>>>>> Do you notice how similar it is to some Don Smith, and Tesla coils?
>>>>>> Zilano gives detailed building instructions, as well, for a very 
>>>>>> similar coil.
>>>>>> There seems to be a whole school of study regarding this type of 
>>>>>> magnetic field transducer, or antenna, that we are not so 
>>>>>> familiar with.
>>>>>> I am feeling like a chimpanzee contemplating a diode.
>>>>>> We have a lot of work to do.
>>>>>> Another wide band device/(antenna) might be Tesla's spiral 
>>>>>> pancake coil.
>>>>>> I had good luck with my little experiments, using the induction 
>>>>>> stove top and a 3 hp treadmill motor, with a lamp cord pancake 
>>>>>> coil. The induction stove software sucked, but the basic concept 
>>>>>> was good  of driving with induction/pancake.
>>>>>> The current amplification seemed substantial, if the motor speed, 
>>>>>> and performance, was any indication.
>>>>>> This other coil looks interesting,now, too.
>>>>>> Cheers Warren
>>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>>>>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 5:27 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Norm,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Yes the Black Hole looks super cool for energy harvesting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     What is kind of interesting is that this antenna has been
>>>>>>     around since at least 03 and there is very little information
>>>>>>     on how to build it.  Then of course all the engineers poo
>>>>>>     pooing it claiming it's just a dummy load and the coax is
>>>>>>     doing all the work because they cannot possibly relate to the
>>>>>>     additional vector claim. The reviews of people using it claim
>>>>>>     it works very well in practice, lots of contacts but not all
>>>>>>     that well with theoretical testing ie with radiated output
>>>>>>     power etc.  To me it looks like a 90 degree phase modulated
>>>>>>     diskone where one disk would be in counterphase to the other
>>>>>>     creating the longitudinal field aspect same as my wireless
>>>>>>     charging of HVAC caps.  Would be interesting to see the
>>>>>>     current/voltage phase plot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Lights a florescent pretty well at 4 watts
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWR5d7t0WAw
>>>>>>     http://www.ehant.qrz.ru/eh_phase.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 9/13/2018 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Thanks! Mick, reminds me of the Sutton Black Hole Antennae
>>>>>>>     that was presented at the Tesla Symposium.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 9/12/2018 4:49 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Here is a magnetic antenna that functions similar to
>>>>>>>>     Tesla's wireless
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     http://www.eh-antenna.com/EH_HZ.pdf
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>
>

No! Mick, I have no additional info on Aaron's video!  He is using a 
rectified HV source from an ignition coil which technically is not 
electrostatic.  He should be using an influence machine to generate true 
HVDC electrostatic potential instead! You would have to do the 
experiment using true electrostatic potential.  Easy to do by putting a 
Lyden Jar in series with coil and then puslsing (bucking polarity with 
low voltage Dc discharge through coil.


On 9/18/2018 10:53 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> Do you have any more background on Aarons video?    Easy to get 
> magnets to jump discharging through a coil, how is the setup different 
> such as source of DC and source of static?
>
>
> On 9/18/2018 7:02 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0iYdN-pfEo
>>
>>
>> On 9/18/2018 8:51 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/azfxP9lBAao        Ok!  Guys, here is something that I never thought about regarding the EV Gray Repulsion Plate experiments. (I had the EV Gray plates with the motors we found in Dodge KS.) Please note the novel idea to actually extract energy from a coil energized with HV Electrostatic potential and pulsed with colliding low voltage DC to a common ground!   This is very worthy of research and  quantification!    Here again we see the Green white spark discharge which is a clue. Think! Colliding both HV Potential with DC pulse!
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject: 	Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] the infinite magnetic field EH antenna
>>> Date: 	Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:27:12 -0500
>>> From: 	Norman Wootan <[email protected]>
>>> To: 	[email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject: 	Re: [EVGRAY] the infinite magnetic field EH antenna
>>> Date: 	Sun, 16 Sep 2018 10:51:47 -0700
>>> From: 	Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>> Reply-To: 	[email protected]
>>> To: 	[email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Norm,
>>>
>>> I think I stole it from you hahaha. Anyways I know Smith was using 
>>> magnets in his devices or at least a very rectangular BH curve 
>>> material, his use of the GDT was brilliant by the way.  I also know 
>>> he was not fucking around because of the amount of experimental 
>>> devices and scale of some of the other stuff.  As he told people he 
>>> left things out of his explanations and the circuit diagrams have 
>>> obvious issues.
>>>
>>> I have a feeling it went like this, same way as Wesley  who was 
>>> visited, and they said "we don't care what you make or sell just as 
>>> long as no one believes you" therefore no more demo after the first 
>>> one. He could have been brain blasted too where they target the 
>>> person with serious gain extremely short waves  or he was just plain 
>>> unlucky.   The fact that brilliant guy from Cavetonics had a stroke 
>>> gives me pause.
>>>
>>> Negative impedance, capacitance resistance, it doesn't matter, a 
>>> pump is a pump is a pump.
>>>
>>> BTW I don't think one needs microspheres if working with lower 
>>> frequencies, Teslas sperical topload comes to mind and was not the 
>>> TMT supposed to have a multitude a spheres packed around the torus 
>>> topload...
>>> Dr Tesla was so insanely brilliant the fact we are not super 
>>> advanced as a species is because too many scientists were/are too 
>>> stupid to understand him and the greed won out from there.
>>>
>>> Surface plasmon polaritron, see a similarity to aether along a 
>>> polished conductor...
>>>
>>> Norm you still play in the lab or permanently gone crawdadding?
>>>
>>> http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/acousticsystem/resonators.html
>>>
>>> https://econtact.ca/7_2/godman_vitruvius.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/16/2018 6:02 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mick!  Glad to see someone is paying attention!  Your quote! BTW.  
>>>> I was a friend of Smith and can verify that his goal was to capture 
>>>> and utilize the earth magnetic fields as his source of power.  He 
>>>> had all the maps of magnetic flux anomalies around the earth. His 
>>>> favorite was at Little Rock AR.  You are correct in your 
>>>> assumption!  You mentioned the Neutral Spike phenomenon. It all 
>>>> goes back to the John Miliske Super Light which you should re-read 
>>>> and appreciate its implications.  See: Super Light.
>>>>
>>>> *WHAT IS SUPERLIGHT ?*
>>>>
>>>> *By:Dr. John Mileweski***
>>>>
>>>> *SuperLight is magnetic light; it is **magneto–electric radiation**. *
>>>>
>>>> *Regular light is electric light or **electro–magnetic radiation**. 
>>>> There is parity or symmetry the Universe, everything has an equal 
>>>> and opposite mirror–image counterpart, the Ying and the Yang, right 
>>>> and left, matter and anti matter, the electron and the positron. 
>>>> Why not light? *
>>>>
>>>> *Both science and metaphysics have honored this parity law in all 
>>>> things except light. They are wrong. **  There is parity in light 
>>>> as well ! *
>>>>
>>>> *I will now explain and give you more detail. *
>>>>
>>>> *SuperLight is the unseen force in nature that has been ignored by 
>>>> science but real to the mystics and metaphysicians for thousands of 
>>>> years. It has been given different names by different cultures for 
>>>> thousands of years. *
>>>>
>>>> *A Nuous, Chi, Biomagnetic Energy, Wilhelm Reich's Orgone Energy, 
>>>> Tesler's Free Earth Energy, Animal Magnetism, Space Energy, Vacuum 
>>>> Energy, and Zero Point Energy, etc. Those who have subtle 
>>>> perception know it is real. *
>>>>
>>>> *SuperLight was identified scientifically over 100 years ago when 
>>>> James Clerk Maxwell <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/report.htm> 
>>>> solved his famous wave equation. This occurred shortly after radio 
>>>> was invented by Nikola Tesla 
>>>> <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/tesla.htm>, and theoretical 
>>>> physicists tried to find a mathematical model to explain radio 
>>>> waves. When using positive numbers in Maxwell's Equations this 
>>>> explains radio waves and also all forms of electro–magnetic 
>>>> radiation such as light, radio, TV, microwaves, x–rays, etc. What 
>>>> his equation also explains 100 years ago was SuperLight but because 
>>>> it was the solution that comes from the use of negative numbers, 
>>>> **"this second solution"**was ignored for over 100 years. Remember 
>>>> when you were taught algebra and were told to ignore imaginary 
>>>> numbers (e.g. The square root of –1) because they have no meaning 
>>>> in this world. Well, times have changed and now we have a very 
>>>> valid second solution to Maxwell's equation and it is SuperLight. *
>>>>
>>>> *In the mid 70's a scientist, Dr. William Tiller, at Stanford 
>>>> University took another look at Maxwell's equation and asked; "What 
>>>> does this second solution explain when interpreted in our world."_{1} *
>>>>
>>>> *To understand this second solution, we must first review what the 
>>>> first or positive solution explains. The first solution is as 
>>>> follows: Radio waves leave the antenna and radiate out into space 
>>>> from a point source (the antenna) equally in all directions into 
>>>> space toward infinity traveling at the speed of light. The wave is 
>>>> composed of a large electrical component and a small magnetic 
>>>> component 90 degrees to the electrical component. Thus named, 
>>>> electro–magnetic radiation. *
>>>>
>>>> *The second solution describes a particle wave of just the opposite 
>>>> structure. It explains that **from infinity traveling toward the 
>>>> point source from all directions radiates SuperLight**. This new 
>>>> radiation is composed of a large magnetic component and a small 
>>>> electrical component, thus the name, magneto–electric radiation. 
>>>> When the equations are looked at more closely, one finds that 
>>>> **"SuperLight" travels at the speed of light squared !**  10^20 
>>>> meters per second,   or 10 billion times faster than light 
>>>> <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/gravity2.htm>. *
>>>>
>>>> *It has a frequency 10 billion times higher, and has a 
>>>> corresponding, shorter wavelength.   It therefore has a higher 
>>>> energy density. *
>>>>
>>>> *The question one asks immediately is, "if it is so powerful, how 
>>>> come we do not feel it, or how come it is not detected 
>>>> scientifically?" Well, the frequency is so high, its wave length so 
>>>> short, (4 x 10^–8 nano–meters, or 4 x 10^–17 meters), its velocity 
>>>> so fast, that it goes through everything as though the substance 
>>>> was nearly completely transparent (like glass). *
>>>>
>>>> *We can say the higher frequency is completely penetrating like 
>>>> x–rays, but even more so. More information, regarding the relative 
>>>> size, will be given later. *
>>>>
>>>> *WHERE DOES SUPERLIGHT COME FROM ?***
>>>>
>>>> *It comes out of black holes !***
>>>>
>>>> *First, I will describe how regular light is formed and then make 
>>>> the analogy for SuperLight. *
>>>>
>>>> *Regular electro–magnetic radiation or light is formed when 
>>>> electric monopoles give off energy. The electron in orbit about our 
>>>> atoms is an electric monopole — as it changes its' orbit it either 
>>>> gives off or absorbs energy in the form of electro– magnetic 
>>>> radiation. Sunlight is converted into electricity by this process 
>>>> in a solar cell. Just the opposite occurs in optical diodes, which 
>>>> convert electricity into light. *
>>>>
>>>> *So, electro magnetic radiation or visible light is produced when 
>>>> an electron (an electric monopole) lowers its orbit and releases 
>>>> its energy in the form of light. *
>>>>
>>>> *Now, I believe a similar event occurs in the extremely dense and 
>>>> hot matter found in black holes. It is theorized that black holes 
>>>> contain magnetic monopoles and when these extremely dense, 
>>>> extremely small, extremely energetic magnetic monopoles release 
>>>> energy by lowering their orbit they radiate magneto–electric 
>>>> radiation, our SuperLight. So black holes really are not so black. 
>>>> They are radiant beings of SuperLight. Of course SuperLight escapes 
>>>> the strong gravitation forces of the black holes because its 
>>>> velocity is the square of the velocity of light and it therefore, 
>>>> can easily escape._{7} *
>>>>
>>>> *The current scientific thinking is that in the center of every 
>>>> galaxy in the universe is a black hole. There are billions and 
>>>> billions of galaxies all around us, and they all are producing 
>>>> SuperLight. We are literally bathed in a three-dimensional dynamic 
>>>> energy field, or an "Ether" of SuperLight — a Dynamic Ether. *
>>>>
>>>> When you get into IONS, one should remember the negative ion fields 
>>>> that are created around a running Tesla coil that causes chilling 
>>>> effects.  Se my paper on What is Heat that I wrote back in the 90s.
>>>>
>>>> What is Heat #2
>>>>
>>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>>
>>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>>
>>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>>
>>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>>>
>>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>>
>>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>>>
>>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>>
>>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>>
>>>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>>>
>>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>>
>>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>>
>>>> junction.Historically we find thatGerman physicist,
>>>>
>>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>>
>>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>>
>>>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>>
>>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>>
>>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>>>
>>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>>
>>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>>
>>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>>
>>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>>
>>>> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>>
>>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>>
>>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>>
>>>> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>>
>>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>>>
>>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>>
>>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>>
>>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>>
>>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>>
>>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>>
>>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>>
>>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>>>
>>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>>
>>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>>>
>>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>>
>>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>>>
>>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>>
>>>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>>
>>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>>
>>>> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>>
>>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>>
>>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>>
>>>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>>>
>>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>>
>>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>>
>>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>>
>>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>>>
>>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>>
>>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>>
>>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>>
>>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>>>
>>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>>
>>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>>>
>>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>>
>>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>>
>>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>>
>>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>>
>>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>>
>>>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>>
>>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>>
>>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>>
>>>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>>>
>>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>>
>>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>>
>>>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>>>
>>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>>
>>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>>
>>>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>>
>>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>>
>>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>>
>>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>>
>>>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>>>
>>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>>
>>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>>
>>>> question of,What is heat?We were told in theschool
>>>>
>>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>>
>>>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>>>
>>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>>
>>>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>>
>>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>>
>>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>>
>>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>>>
>>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>>>
>>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>>
>>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>>
>>>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>>>
>>>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>>>
>>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>>
>>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>>
>>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>>
>>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>>
>>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>>
>>>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>>
>>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>>
>>>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>>>
>>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>>
>>>> processes which we were taught.Everythingin chemistry is
>>>>
>>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>>
>>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>>
>>>> At a Vanguard Science Roundtable discussion several years ago
>>>>
>>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>>
>>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>>
>>>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>>
>>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>>
>>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>>>
>>>> very efficient method of air conditioning because an ion
>>>>
>>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>>
>>>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>>>
>>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>>
>>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>>>
>>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>>
>>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>>
>>>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>>>
>>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>>
>>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>>
>>>> of experimentation.Norm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BTW, when the Patent Office started researching "Super 
>>>> Conductivity" they ran right into Tesla's work with the idea of 
>>>> using the Linde, liquid air process to provide a super conductive 
>>>> Tesla Coil primary.   Tesla understood the power of a "Cold Sink" 
>>>> with electron densities of a very high order!   "Hmmmmn"!
>>>>
>>>> More here on "Evanescent wave"!     and "critical angle"! 
>>>> _https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_internal_reflection_
>>>>
>>>> On 1/16/2016 10:31 AM, Norman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> _https://physics.ucf.edu/~rep/publications/JournalPubs2010/ClearyGrating2010.pdf 
>>>> <https://physics.ucf.edu/%7Erep/publications/JournalPubs2010/ClearyGrating2010.pdf>_
>>>>
>>>> _https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field_ This article shows 
>>>> how to approach "Zero Loss"!       BTW, Moray, read this little 
>>>> note regarding your "micro sphere implosion" phenomenon! 
>>>> ("Evanescent wave coupling is used to excite, for example, 
>>>> _dielectric microsphere resonators 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dielectric_microsphere_resonators&action=edit&redlink=1>_.").
>>>>
>>>> On 1/16/2016 10:06 AM, Norman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> PS:
>>>>
>>>> Natural infrared
>>>>
>>>> Sunlight, at an effective temperature of 5,780 kelvins, is composed 
>>>> of nearly thermal-spectrum radiation that is slightly more than 
>>>> half infrared. At zenith, sunlight provides an _irradiance 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irradiance>_ of just over 1 
>>>> _kilowatt <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilowatt>_ per square 
>>>> meter at sea level. Of this energy, 527 watts is infrared 
>>>> radiation, 445 watts is _visible light 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visible_light>_, and 32 watts is 
>>>> _ultraviolet <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet>_ 
>>>> radiation._^[10] 
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared#cite_note-10> _
>>>>
>>>> On the surface of Earth, at far lower temperatures than the surface 
>>>> of the Sun, almost all thermal radiation consists of infrared in 
>>>> various wavelengths. Of these natural thermal radiation processes 
>>>> only lightning and natural fires are hot enough to produce much 
>>>> visible energy, and fires produce far more infrared than 
>>>> visible-light energy.
>>>> If you are going to collect it you have to know what you are 
>>>> dealing with!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/15/2018 1:18 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Warren,
>>>>>
>>>>> Glad to see someone is paying attention, I was waiting for someone 
>>>>> to pick up on that.  People think of the Smith device as an 
>>>>> transformer but it is actually an antenna.  This is also what 
>>>>> Hector talks about with his RV, RF energy modulating the phases to 
>>>>> usable electricity through transformation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most of the Smith schematics are wrong, including Zilano's which 
>>>>> is probably a good thing or there would be many dead experimenters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Smith:
>>>>>
>>>>> HV Dc + modulated antenna = energy pump
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't forget to remember to remove the ions or nature creates 
>>>>> another equilibrium, in other words the more one loads it the 
>>>>> better the device works up to it's own engineering limitations.  
>>>>> Also design based on which ions one desires to work with the earth 
>>>>> ones or air.  Of course the real extreme multiplication factor 
>>>>> comes from utilizing the return strike or neutral spike.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field
>>>>>
>>>>> "Electromagnetic evanescent waves have been used to exert 
>>>>> opticalradiation pressure 
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_pressure>on small 
>>>>> particles to trap them for experimentation, or tocool 
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigeration>them to very low 
>>>>> temperatures,"
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency
>>>>>
>>>>> "The quantum interference in EIT can be exploited tolaser cool 
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_cooling>atomic particles, 
>>>>> even down to the quantum mechanical ground state of motion.^[2] 
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency#cite_note-2> 
>>>>> This has recently been used to directly image individual atoms 
>>>>> trapped in anoptical lattice 
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_lattice>.^[3]" 
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency#cite_note-3> 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Warren,
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you procure the buzzer that Norm gave the link for?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/14/2018 8:20 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .Mick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is most impressive for a SSB antenna.
>>>>>> I sure could have used such a nice tool on my schooner while 
>>>>>> cruising.
>>>>>> Do you notice how similar it is to some Don Smith, and Tesla coils?
>>>>>> Zilano gives detailed building instructions, as well, for a very 
>>>>>> similar coil.
>>>>>> There seems to be a whole school of study regarding this type of 
>>>>>> magnetic field transducer, or antenna, that we are not so 
>>>>>> familiar with.
>>>>>> I am feeling like a chimpanzee contemplating a diode.
>>>>>> We have a lot of work to do.
>>>>>> Another wide band device/(antenna) might be Tesla's spiral 
>>>>>> pancake coil.
>>>>>> I had good luck with my little experiments, using the induction 
>>>>>> stove top and a 3 hp treadmill motor, with a lamp cord pancake 
>>>>>> coil. The induction stove software sucked, but the basic concept 
>>>>>> was good  of driving with induction/pancake.
>>>>>> The current amplification seemed substantial, if the motor speed, 
>>>>>> and performance, was any indication.
>>>>>> This other coil looks interesting,now, too.
>>>>>> Cheers Warren
>>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>>>>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 5:27 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Norm,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Yes the Black Hole looks super cool for energy harvesting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     What is kind of interesting is that this antenna has been
>>>>>>     around since at least 03 and there is very little information
>>>>>>     on how to build it.  Then of course all the engineers poo
>>>>>>     pooing it claiming it's just a dummy load and the coax is
>>>>>>     doing all the work because they cannot possibly relate to the
>>>>>>     additional vector claim. The reviews of people using it claim
>>>>>>     it works very well in practice, lots of contacts but not all
>>>>>>     that well with theoretical testing ie with radiated output
>>>>>>     power etc.  To me it looks like a 90 degree phase modulated
>>>>>>     diskone where one disk would be in counterphase to the other
>>>>>>     creating the longitudinal field aspect same as my wireless
>>>>>>     charging of HVAC caps. Would be interesting to see the
>>>>>>     current/voltage phase plot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Lights a florescent pretty well at 4 watts
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWR5d7t0WAw
>>>>>>     http://www.ehant.qrz.ru/eh_phase.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 9/13/2018 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Thanks! Mick, reminds me of the Sutton Black Hole Antennae
>>>>>>>     that was presented at the Tesla Symposium.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 9/12/2018 4:49 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Here is a magnetic antenna that functions similar to
>>>>>>>>     Tesla's wireless
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     http://www.eh-antenna.com/EH_HZ.pdf
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Hi Mick
Way understand it is you need diodes pointed at each at the meeting point of the HV static pulse and the low voltage high amps pulse and it is when there is enough potential to jump a spark gap is when the pulse of both hits the coil...i would guess that meeting point is the spark gap and upon there being enough potential to jump the gap the discharge goes to ground and the coil is beteewn spark gap and ground.
Ismael Avisos repelling force kicks the gray motors butt I tbink....ismael could use 9v and two AAs for 12v  battery and.shoot 2kg shorted out coil 35 ft into air 14 times attend of test still 11.4v in batteries
Will put up video after this.
Kone

Hi Mick
 last message didn't make it but I think to combine the HV static and LV amps you need diodes "front to front" at meeting point which I think is the spark gap. When enough potential to jump gap both pulses head to ground with coil between ground and spark gap...not sure where the static comes from.maybe small cap very HV potential filled up by however you want the dc LV also has its own cap.
Ismael aviso I think kicked the gray motors butt.see videos I put up.
One video shows 9v battery and two AAs or 12v shooting 1kg coil 35 feet in airv14btimes batteries drop to only 11.4 b at end
Kone

NormanIt is in good company with some similar ideas.Although, we are not certain how it works, we keep getting reports of devices working in generally loosely the same way.As we throw these ideas in the save bucket, we might refine them further, and find the real magic behind them. It is a happy thing that most of them work in some manner.It is very encouraging, and soon we might parse those features exactly common to them all, to make a more predictable hibred versionCheers Warren

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  On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 9:51 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 
https://youtu.be/azfxP9lBAao       Ok!  Guys, here is something that I never thought about regarding the EV Gray Repulsion Plate experiments. (I had the EV Gray plates with the motors we found in Dodge KS.) Please note the novel idea to actually extract energy from a coil energized with HV Electrostatic potential and pulsed with colliding low voltage DC to a common ground!   This is very worthy of research and  quantification!    Here again we see the Green white spark discharge which is a clue. Think! Colliding both HV Potential with DC pulse! 
 
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Hi Norm,
 
I think I stole it from you hahaha.  Anyways I know Smith was using magnets in his devices or at least a very rectangular BH curve material, his use of the GDT was brilliant by the way.  I also know he was not fucking around because of the amount of experimental devices and scale of some of the other stuff.  As he told people he left things out of his explanations and the circuit diagrams have obvious issues.
 
 
I have a feeling it went like this, same way as Wesley  who was visited, and they said "we don't care what you make or sell just as long as no one believes you" therefore no more demo after the first one.  He could have been brain blasted too where they target the person with serious gain extremely short waves  or he was just plain unlucky.   The fact that brilliant guy from Cavetonics had a stroke gives me pause.
 
Negative impedance, capacitance resistance, it doesn't matter, a pump is a pump is a pump.
 
BTW I don't think one needs microspheres if working with lower frequencies, Teslas sperical topload comes to mind and was not the TMT supposed to have a multitude a spheres packed around the torus topload...
 Dr Tesla was so insanely brilliant the fact we are not super advanced as a species is because too many scientists were/are too stupid to understand him and the greed won out from there.
 
 
Surface plasmon polaritron, see a similarity to aether along a polished conductor...
 
Norm you still play in the lab or permanently gone crawdadding?
 
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/acousticsystem/resonators.html
 
https://econtact.ca/7_2/godman_vitruvius.pdf
 
 
 On 9/16/2018 6:02 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Mick!  Glad to see someone is paying attention!  Your quote! BTW.  I was a friend of Smith and can verify that his goal was to capture and utilize the earth magnetic fields as his source of power.  He had all the maps of magnetic flux anomalies around the earth. His favorite was at Little Rock AR.  You are correct in your assumption!  You mentioned the Neutral Spike phenomenon.  It all goes back to the John Miliske Super Light which you should re-read and appreciate its implications.  See: Super Light.
 

 
 
 
WHAT IS SUPERLIGHT ?
 
By:  Dr. John Mileweski
 
SuperLight is magnetic light; it is magneto–electric radiation. 
 
Regular light is electric light or electro–magnetic radiation. There is parity or symmetry the Universe, everything has an equal and opposite mirror–image counterpart, the Ying and the Yang, right and left, matter and anti matter, the electron and the positron. Why not light? 
 
Both science and metaphysics have honored this parity law in all things except light. They are wrong.   There is parity in light as well ! 
 
I will now explain and give you more detail. 
 
SuperLight is the unseen force in nature that has been ignored by science but real to the mystics and metaphysicians for thousands of years. It has been given different names by different cultures for thousands of years. 
 
A Nuous, Chi, Biomagnetic Energy, Wilhelm Reich's Orgone Energy, Tesler's Free Earth Energy, Animal Magnetism, Space Energy, Vacuum Energy, and Zero Point Energy, etc. Those who have subtle perception know it is real. 
 
SuperLight was identified scientifically over 100 years ago when James Clerk Maxwell solved his famous wave equation. This occurred shortly after radio was invented by Nikola Tesla, and theoretical physicists tried to find a mathematical model to explain radio waves. When using positive numbers in Maxwell's Equations this explains radio waves and also all forms of electro–magnetic radiation such as light, radio, TV, microwaves, x–rays, etc. What his equation also explains 100 years ago was SuperLight but because it was the solution that comes from the use of negative numbers, "this second solution" was ignored for over 100 years. Remember when you were taught algebra and were told to ignore imaginary numbers (e.g. The square root of –1) because they have no meaning in this world. Well, times have changed and now we have a very valid second solution to Maxwell's equation and it is SuperLight. 
 
In the mid 70's a scientist, Dr. William Tiller, at Stanford University took another look at Maxwell's equation and asked; "What does this second solution explain when interpreted in our world."{1} 
 
To understand this second solution, we must first review what the first or positive solution explains. The first solution is as follows: Radio waves leave the antenna and radiate out into space from a point source (the antenna) equally in all directions into space toward infinity traveling at the speed of light. The wave is composed of a large electrical component and a small magnetic component 90 degrees to the electrical component. Thus named, electro–magnetic radiation. 
 
The second solution describes a particle wave of just the opposite structure. It explains that from infinity traveling toward the point source from all directions radiates SuperLight. This new radiation is composed of a large magnetic component and a small electrical component, thus the name, magneto–electric radiation. When the equations are looked at more closely, one finds that "SuperLight" travels at the speed of light squared !   1020 meters per second,   or 10 billion times faster than light. 
 
It has a frequency 10 billion times higher, and has a corresponding, shorter wavelength.   It therefore has a higher energy density. 
 
The question one asks immediately is, "if it is so powerful, how come we do not feel it, or how come it is not detected scientifically?"   Well, the frequency is so high, its wave length so short, (4 x 10–8 nano–meters, or 4 x 10–17 meters), its velocity so fast, that it goes through everything as though the substance was nearly completely transparent (like glass). 
 
We can say the higher frequency is completely penetrating like x–rays, but even more so. More information, regarding the relative size, will be given later. 
 
WHERE DOES SUPERLIGHT COME FROM ?
 
It comes out of black holes !
 
First, I will describe how regular light is formed and then make the analogy for SuperLight. 
 
Regular electro–magnetic radiation or light is formed when electric monopoles give off energy. The electron in orbit about our atoms is an electric monopole — as it changes its' orbit it either gives off or absorbs energy in the form of  electro– magnetic radiation. Sunlight is converted into electricity by this process in a solar cell. Just the opposite occurs in optical diodes, which convert electricity into light. 
 
So, electro magnetic radiation or visible light is produced when an electron (an electric monopole) lowers its orbit and releases its energy in the form of light. 
 
Now, I believe a similar event occurs in the extremely dense and hot matter found in black holes. It is theorized that black holes contain magnetic monopoles and when these extremely dense, extremely small, extremely energetic magnetic monopoles release energy by lowering their orbit they radiate magneto–electric radiation, our SuperLight. So black holes really are not so black. They are radiant beings of SuperLight. Of course SuperLight escapes the strong gravitation forces of the black holes because its velocity is the square of the velocity of light and it therefore, can easily escape.{7} 
 
The current scientific thinking is that in the center of every galaxy in the universe is a black hole. There are billions and billions of galaxies all around us, and they all are producing SuperLight. We are literally bathed in a three-dimensional dynamic energy field, or an "Ether" of SuperLight — a Dynamic Ether. 
 When you get into IONS, one should remember the negative ion fields that are created around a running Tesla coil that causes chilling effects.  Se my paper on What is Heat that I wrote back in the 90s.
 
 
 
                     What is Heat #2
 
 
 
For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
 
heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
 
liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
 
electrical power around the phenomenon.  The reason for this
 
interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
 
from the ambient background via thermal differentials.  My
 
line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
 
with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
 
electronic cooling devices.  Would you believe that most
 
people do not understand how these devices move thermal
 
energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
 
junction.  Historically we find that  German physicist,
 
Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
 
applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
 
electrical energy resulted.  Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
 
discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
 
dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.  It was not
 
until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
 
both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
 
water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
 
melted when the polarity of the direct current was
 
reversed.  These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
 
years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
 
materials which could provide the wide temperature
 
differentials.  In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
 
available which revived the electric cooling principles.  In
 
the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
 
devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
 
junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
 
materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
 
thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
 
conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
 
coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.  The first
 
Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
 
ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.   With a
 
small temperature differential across the device a weak
 
current with an attendant voltage was developed.  Increasing
 
the differential provided a proportional increase in current
 
and voltage.  About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
 
wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
 
the KeelyNet BBS.   My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
 
how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
 
junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
 
thermal energy across the junction.  This is a directly
 
reversible situation based on polarity.
 
Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
 
refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
 
change material such as water and refrigerants.  We have
 
always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
 
cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
 
mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
 
condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.  Would
 
you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
 
provides an attendant electrical effect.   Back in 1840
 
Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
 
escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
 
of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
 
Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
 
the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
 
passing through the nozzles.   After reading an old (1920 s)
 
Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
 
phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
 
not purely mechanical.  The atoms of the material lose or
 
gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
 
discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
 
transitions between phases.  More energy is present after
 
the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
 
text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
 
explained.  When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
 
Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
 
physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
 
of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
 
totally not understood by modern science.  Now my suspicions
 
were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
 
electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
 
question of,  What is heat?    We were told in the  school 
 
that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
 
of energy.  What is the form of this energy?  Let us look at
 
a very simple example of heating which may explain this
 
process.  When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
 
heated because electrons in the material are converted to
 
photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
 
leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.  The
 
more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.  Now
 
the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
 
from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
 
net negative state or cold.  Heat or cold is based on the
 
ion relationship in the material.  When we apply a flame
 
(ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
 
which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
 
structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
 
Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
 
across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
 
(ions).  Since the energy is in the form of presence or
 
absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
 
how the process works.  All phase change processes work the
 
same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
 
processes which we were taught.  Everything  in chemistry is
 
an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
 
based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
 
At a Vanguard Science Roundtable discussion several years ago
 
we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
 
which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
 
cooling effects.  Now we see Patents issued based on
 
negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
 
cool because it becomes net negative charged.  This is a
 
very efficient method of air conditioning because an ion
 
generator operates at very high voltages with very little
 
current involved.   It is possible to develop this ion
 
transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
 
output from very subtle temperature differentials.  Remember
 
that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
 
differential will cause a development of current and voltage
 
as in the Peltier device.   I hope that this dialog will
 
provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
 
Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
 
of experimentation.   Norm
 

 BTW, when the Patent Office started researching "Super Conductivity" they ran right into Tesla's work with the idea of using the Linde, liquid air process to provide a super conductive Tesla Coil primary.   Tesla understood the power of a "Cold Sink" with electron densities of a very high order!   "Hmmmmn"!
 
 
 
 
 
More here on "Evanescent wave"!     and "critical angle"!   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_internal_reflection
 
On 1/16/2016 10:31 AM, Norman wrote:
 
https://physics.ucf.edu/~rep/publications/JournalPubs2010/ClearyGrating2010.pdf
 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field         This article shows how to approach "Zero Loss"!       BTW, Moray, read this little note regarding your "micro sphere implosion" phenomenon!  ("Evanescent wave coupling is used to excite, for example, dielectric microsphere resonators.").
 
On 1/16/2016 10:06 AM, Norman wrote:
 
PS:    
 
Natural infrared
 
Sunlight, at an effective temperature of 5,780 kelvins, is composed of nearly thermal-spectrum radiation that is slightly more than half infrared. At zenith, sunlight provides an irradiance of just over 1 kilowatt per square meter at sea level. Of this energy, 527 watts is infrared radiation, 445 watts is visible light, and 32 watts is ultraviolet radiation.[10]
 
On the surface of Earth, at far lower temperatures than the surface of the Sun, almost all thermal radiation consists of infrared in various wavelengths. Of these natural thermal radiation processes only lightning and natural fires are hot enough to produce much visible energy, and fires produce far more infrared than visible-light energy.
 If you are going to collect it you have to know what you are dealing with!
 
 
 On 9/15/2018 1:18 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Warren,
 
Glad to see someone is paying attention, I was waiting for someone to pick up on that.  People think of the Smith device as an transformer but it is actually an antenna.  This is also what Hector talks about with his RV, RF energy modulating the phases to usable electricity through transformation.
 
Most of the Smith schematics are wrong, including Zilano's which is probably a good thing or there would be many dead experimenters.
 
 
Smith:
 
 
HV Dc + modulated antenna = energy pump
 
Don't forget to remember to remove the ions or nature creates another equilibrium, in other words the more one loads it the better the device works up to it's own engineering limitations.  Also design based on which ions one desires to work with the earth ones or air.  Of course the real extreme multiplication factor comes from utilizing the return strike or neutral spike.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field
 
"Electromagnetic evanescent waves have been used to exert optical radiation pressure on small particles to trap them for experimentation, or to cool them to very low temperatures,"
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetically_induced_transparency
 
 
"The quantum interference in EIT can be exploited to laser cool atomic particles, even down to the quantum mechanical ground state of motion.[2] This has recently been used to directly image individual atoms trapped in an optical lattice. [3]"
 

 
 
Warren,
 
Did you procure the buzzer that Norm gave the link for?
 
 
 On 9/14/2018 8:20 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
      
.Mick
 That is most impressive for a SSB antenna. I sure could have used such a nice tool on my schooner while cruising. Do you notice how similar it is to some Don Smith, and Tesla coils? Zilano gives detailed building instructions, as well, for a very similar coil. There seems to be a whole school of study regarding this type of magnetic field transducer, or antenna, that we are not so familiar with. I am feeling like a chimpanzee contemplating a diode. We have a lot of work to do. Another wide band device/(antenna) might be Tesla's spiral pancake coil. I had good luck with my little experiments, using the induction stove top and a 3 hp treadmill motor, with a lamp cord pancake coil. The induction stove software sucked, but the basic concept was good  of driving with induction/pancake. The current amplification seemed substantial, if the motor speed, and performance, was any indication.
 This other coil looks interesting,now, too. Cheers Warren
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 5:27 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
 
 
Norm,
 
Yes the Black Hole looks super cool for energy harvesting.
 
 
What is kind of interesting is that this antenna has been around since at least 03 and there is very little information on how to  build it.  Then of course all the engineers poo pooing it claiming it's just a dummy load and the coax is doing all the work because  they cannot possibly relate to the additional vector claim.  The reviews of people using it claim it works very well in practice, lots of contacts but not all that well with  theoretical testing ie with radiated output power etc.  To me it looks like a 90 degree phase modulated diskone where one disk would be in counterphase to the other creating the  longitudinal field aspect same as my wireless charging of HVAC caps.  Would be interesting to see the current/voltage phase plot.
 
 
Lights a florescent pretty well at 4 watts  
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWR5d7t0WAw
 http://www.ehant.qrz.ru/eh_phase.pdf
 
 
  On 9/13/2018 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Thanks! Mick, reminds me of the Sutton Black Hole Antennae that was presented at the Tesla Symposium.
 
 
 On 9/12/2018 4:49 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Here is a magnetic antenna that functions similar to Tesla's  wireless
 
 http://www.eh-antenna.com/EH_HZ.pdf
 
  
 
  
  
       
     
 
  
 
  
 
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Kone,

Your concept makes sense.  It is difficult to get much differential to
ground without either the static charge or exciting the magnetic with
high voltage. Completely isolating the experiment from any house power
is paramount to determine the ground coupling as even transformer
isolated floated systems seem to have ground coupling somehow.

Do you know the way you described is how Ismael effects the magnet
repulsion or what exactly he is doing?

That coil/magent or whatever it is sure gets some altitude for a flat
unit unless it is a barrel like a coil gun.  Interesting just to try
running a piston motor with coil gun tech and compare to electric motor
efficiency.


On 9/18/2018 12:35 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Mick
> last message didn't make it but I think to combine the HV static and
> LV amps you need diodes "front to front" at meeting point which I
> think is the spark gap. When enough potential to jump gap both pulses
> head to ground with coil between ground and spark gap...not sure where
> the static comes from.maybe small cap very HV potential filled up by
> however you want the dc LV also has its own cap.
> Ismael aviso I think kicked the gray motors butt.see videos I put up.
> One video shows 9v battery and two AAs or 12v shooting 1kg coil 35
> feet in airv14btimes batteries drop to only 11.4 b at end
> Kone
>
>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0iYdN-pfEo  Pay close attention to the 
source of the HVDC!  He is useing an automotive coil then rectifying and 
charging a cap for HV.


On 9/19/2018 12:15 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Kone,
>
> Your concept makes sense.  It is difficult to get much differential to 
> ground without either the static charge or exciting the magnetic with 
> high voltage. Completely isolating the experiment from any house power 
> is paramount to determine the ground coupling as even transformer 
> isolated floated systems seem to have ground coupling somehow.
>
> Do you know the way you described is how Ismael effects the magnet 
> repulsion or what exactly he is doing?
>
> That coil/magent or whatever it is sure gets some altitude for a flat 
> unit unless it is a barrel like a coil gun.  Interesting just to try 
> running a piston motor with coil gun tech and compare to electric 
> motor efficiency.
>
>
> On 9/18/2018 12:35 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mick
>> last message didn't make it but I think to combine the HV static and 
>> LV amps you need diodes "front to front" at meeting point which I 
>> think is the spark gap. When enough potential to jump gap both pulses 
>> head to ground with coil between ground and spark gap...not sure 
>> where the static comes from.maybe small cap very HV potential filled 
>> up by however you want the dc LV also has its own cap.
>> Ismael aviso I think kicked the gray motors butt.see videos I put up.
>> One video shows 9v battery and two AAs or 12v shooting 1kg coil 35 
>> feet in airv14btimes batteries drop to only 11.4 b at end
>> Kone
>>
>
>

MickIsmael's coil experiment sure was impressive.Although at the present time, my work shop is a work, itself, in progress, it would be a wonderful experiment to replicate.I tried a few years ago, but didn't have it right, and it did not work for me.I think wire size, and length of coil is important, but am not sure, as I had such an imperfect understanding of how it worked.I even have a nice reciprocating test bed to make a captive version as a motor, complete with flywheelI think the basic concepts elude me.As you likely know, winding a solenoid coil is easy.Providing a high voltage dc pulse is also easy, given some decent high voltage diodes, perhaps in series, I think.My coil proved to be remarkably stationary to a fault.Even the piston placed inside the coil, continued the impression my experiment was a dud.I believe Ismael's video was accurate, and my understanding of the elements of the device is faulty.Has anyone replicated Ismael's work? If so, what did you do, and how did it work for you?Cheers Warren
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  On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 1:16 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Kone,
 
Your concept makes sense.  It is difficult to get much differential to ground without either the static charge or exciting the magnetic with high voltage. Completely isolating the experiment from any house power is paramount to determine the ground coupling as even transformer isolated floated systems seem to have ground coupling somehow.
 
 
Do you know the way you described is how Ismael effects the magnet repulsion or what exactly he is doing?
 
That coil/magent or whatever it is sure gets some altitude for a flat unit unless it is a barrel like a coil gun.  Interesting just to try running a piston motor with coil gun tech and compare to electric motor efficiency.
 
 
 On 9/18/2018 12:35 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Hi Mick
 last message didn't make it but I think to combine the HV static and LV amps you need diodes "front to front" at meeting point which I think is the spark gap. When enough potential to jump gap both pulses head to ground with coil between ground and spark gap...not sure where the static comes from.maybe small cap very HV potential filled up by however you want the dc LV also has its own cap.
 Ismael aviso I think kicked the gray motors butt.see videos I put up.
 One video shows 9v battery and two AAs or 12v shooting 1kg coil 35 feet in airv14btimes batteries drop to only 11.4 b at end
 Kone
  
 
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Hi Mick 
The way car ignition coil shoots out HV to chassis ground is.sort of similar when the ignition points open now include 2nd cap with lower.voltage discharge and big amps then mix it with HV contained within diodes pointing at each othrt....
I don't know just what I saw in gray motor youtube videos.
Ismsel.has a 1000 to 2000v cap  discarge into a launcher coil at bottom of tube,  with it getting  a pulsed high frequency that matchrs up to the hyper.inging frequecncy of that fat "missle" coil that is shorted out at the in and out coil leads. So more advanced than shooting.magnets or shooting copper.coins as example since he takes advantage of the shorted coil's hyper ringing when induced by the HV induction from the " launcher" coil.
More on Gray motor subject, having facing identical bucking coils is so superior to magnet piston because when the fields corkscrew into each other, the coils "turn off" naturally upon maximum NN power and the cancelling of opposite fields, plus the backemf /reoil/flyback  is greatly enhanced since it gets shoved  backwards with such force by opposite coil.
Also there is great amoumt of flux that shoots out 90 degrees at NN Airgap this can be tapped easily with ferrite thin long cores wrapped with wire, these "splatter" coils arranged in clusters pointed right at the Airgap.
This compressed flux splatter energy free for taking as zero reflection.
Finally with NN coils and cores, upon approach, the cores remain in their pulsed polarity of NN so upon approac, there is a backwards clash of flux shoving rotor coil back which has to push its way past for the next NN firing position.
If you place a magnet facing correct polarity between the stator coils the magnet can and will flip polarity of core,  and now upon approach there will be a free NS pull to the rotor coil approaching the stator col for much more power and speed and lower draw plus this works to induce power into rotor coils too ( Lenz free pulsed generator design using bucking coils...)
Kone
.

Hi Warre
Dima Ivanow from Russia did nice job replicating Ismaels repelling force.
If you can get into files section of EVGRAY it is the 6th file from the to of list down
I put up his tests and photos and circuits so it is under koneheadx as author
It is very detailed and excellent easy to read circuits.
Kone

Hi DougI am so challenged, getting into our yahoo files.My only source has been through the kindness of members of this group passing these files on to me.
I am unable to access them on my own, since yahoo changed.I would like to see how it was done, and perhaps see if it can be made by one of us.As I said, I have a nice apparatus to make it work as a motor, providing I can simply make the Ismael coil trick to work.Cheers Warren
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  On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 6:17 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Warre
Dima Ivanow from Russia did nice job replicating Ismaels repelling force.
If you can get into files section of EVGRAY it is the 6th file from the to of list down
I put up his tests and photos and circuits so it is under koneheadx as author
It is very detailed and excellent easy to read circuits.
Kone


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Hi Warren
I think I have Dima's folder and files on my laptop I can send them all to your email later today or tommorow.
You could sign up to Yahoo with another name.password and handle could be your email mame.now is so long it does not copy and paste very well just guessing..
Maybe good you can't access files as the info in them is overwhelming stuff you.can go off in tangents forever.
Kone
Kone

DougYes, I bet you may be right about my email address, being just too long. I hadn't thought of that.I am on track to get heat and light in my stone barn studio by winter, since it is now insulated, and has the radiant floor slab poured.How I miss my workshop!I am sure you can relate too!The big barn, too, will be roofed, too, having replaced the foundation, posts, beams, and all the structure of this 150+ year old building.We only moved in on the 22 of December. Last winter was brutal, with all my stuff in scattered boxes, in various sheds, and out buildings.I would only be more frustrated with access to our files.By the way, I have come up with a super strong, cheap method of post and beam building, making building from scratch, really fast, providing you have the wood. Since the trade situation with the US has stalled, really good stuff is available in Canada, now, that used to be exported.
My list of projects to be built has grown, even though I don't have file access. However, I have real energy projects to explore and use ASAP, and the space to build them coming along nicely.Cheers Warren
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  On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 12:50 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Warren
I think I have Dima's folder and files on my laptop I can send them all to your email later today or tommorow.
You could sign up to Yahoo with another name.password and handle could be your email mame.now is so long it does not copy and paste very well just guessing..
Maybe good you can't access files as the info in them is overwhelming stuff you.can go off in tangents forever.
Kone
Kone
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Hi Warren
Jakob I think was replying to you, and he said go to your email from EVGRAY then find where it says "visit your group" then  click there and you hould be in online mode now at EVGRAY I assume...so then click on files up at top this should work maybe not..
Kone