Re: [EVGRAY] What is this?

DougHmmmm? I'll have to try that.The first rendition produced 1.614 more than the input amps, as you know. Now what can we get from this new tap on the power winding?This bridge rectifier, is it shunted out of the circuit for startup? There is otherwise, to great of a load for the start capacitor.It is an exciting prospect, getting more out of the RVCheers Warren
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  On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 at 5:52 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Warren
The lower circuit Hector put up is for a Rotovertor, motor, not 3ph transformer although you could experiment with 3ph transformer instead.
It's just like you did with dc boat motor as load with the series transformer coming off run cap phase however Hector now includes a FWBR over one off the AC powered phases to be rectified
and this.power added to what you already get from the series transformer...
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HI KONE  ,I have a RV motor set up to play w/and have not seen that new RV circuit.OR MAYBE I HAVE & DID'NT NOTICE!!Could you maybe send it ? 

    On Friday, August 10, 2018 8:44 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     Hi Warren
I assume that extra HV DC from the bridge shoves itself back into lead acid battery powering the invertor that feeds AC intootor to run it as you know you can hat away when using big lead acids with running HV DC into them to charge them.
So sort of like amps comes from series transformer and voltage comes from HV FWBR and they coheree when paralleled into lead acid battery as the "recceptacle" of each.
There might be something going on when that output from series transformer and the HV DC combine togetherr in parallel looping back to DC source of the lead.acid battery that is not realized until the experiment is done on bench
Hector has put up this "new" RV circuit 20 times at least and still nobody with an RV motor to play with has tried it!
No big problem if start up needs a cut out switch during stsrtup.maybe it doesnt...
I see where an invertor that simply alternates low voltage or higher voltage DC into AC by swapping polarity flow everyyother pulse could be looped back.into the RV motor and caps could be.used insread.of a battery. ( maybe electrets!)
Also that HV DC could be fed into a 2nd Dc type motor, such as treadmill or universal ACDC washing machine motorr and belted to shaft of RV motor to give.more torque, maybe make stand alone looper like that
......."You got the pow-wah"
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Hi Werner
Go backwards about ten posts ( #107962)
And you will see it in Hector's post (ark research)
It is the lower drawing
Kone

DougYou know on the multi tap transformer I used to step the voltage down on the series capacitor run circuit of the RV?There was that test I did using my Rene charger using the 20 volt winding at the same time which oddly enough did not raise the load amps to the little 5 amp battery running the whole works including the outboard motor.I still have everything, more or less, scattered about various farm buildings, from that experiment.I didn't consider the results so surprising, and feel that the entire setup can be looped in several different ways, using batteries.Rebuilding these barns, using a Dewalt 20 volt  brushless screw gun, and lithium batteries, driving four inch timberlock screws all day, has enlightened me a bit regarding what one can do with batteries.Those tools are magic technology.My steel gusset brackets, and the 20'x6"×6" lodgepole pine beams are super quick, and adaptable for framing. The Stihl chainsaw is my friend in this game.Toiling away on the ground, with tons of stone on the property, the old used Catepillar excavator, that I made hydraulic stone grabber lower jaws for, has paid for itself twenty times over. We just use it for everything heavy now, and a lot of stuff around here is heavy, like the 8"×8"x20' posts which it lifts and puts in place easy as can be.The Dewalt cordless is still king with that battery that outdoes the Everready bunny, I used to make those commercials for.The charger seems to take less than 15 minutes to charge the battery. The brushless motor in that tool is unbelievably powerful going from straight drive into impact as the torque demands it. There has been some serious design thought going into these tools.All carpenters are using them now.I might try to run the big Kromery with the drill.We still have the awkward battery charge swapping and changing battery issue to deal with, but I am pretty sure there is another way to loop in there.Industry is creeping up on us when we aren't looking.We should take full advantage of the good ideas.Cheers Warren

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  On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 at 5:45 AM, werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

HI KONE  ,I have a RV motor set up to play w/and have not seen that new RV circuit.OR MAYBE I HAVE & DID'NT NOTICE!!Could you maybe send it ? 

    On Friday, August 10, 2018 8:44 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     Hi Warren
I assume that extra HV DC from the bridge shoves itself back into lead acid battery powering the invertor that feeds AC intootor to run it as you know you can hat away when using big lead acids with running HV DC into them to charge them.
So sort of like amps comes from series transformer and voltage comes from HV FWBR and they coheree when paralleled into lead acid battery as the "recceptacle" of each.
There might be something going on when that output from series transformer and the HV DC combine togetherr in parallel looping back to DC source of the lead.acid battery that is not realized until the experiment is done on bench
Hector has put up this "new" RV circuit 20 times at least and still nobody with an RV motor to play with has tried it!
No big problem if start up needs a cut out switch during stsrtup.maybe it doesnt...
I see where an invertor that simply alternates low voltage or higher voltage DC into AC by swapping polarity flow everyyother pulse could be looped back.into the RV motor and caps could be.used insread.of a battery. ( maybe electrets!)
Also that HV DC could be fed into a 2nd Dc type motor, such as treadmill or universal ACDC washing machine motorr and belted to shaft of RV motor to give.more torque, maybe make stand alone looper like that
........"You got the pow-wah"
Kome  

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DougI think Sven's work with the solid state three phase transformer Transverter is more exciting, as we don't have to deal with the start up nonsense. It can be made automatic, much easier, I expect.I am having a bit of difficulty getting Sven's observations regarding his experiments, as my LG failed and then they gave me this Samsung which I am still having trouble making friends with.I would like to know how efficient his rig was coming out to be.Is it 1.614 or is it a little better?I know he was really working hard on it.Cheers Warren
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  On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 at 8:09 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Doug
You know on the multi tap transformer I used to step the voltage down on the series capacitor run circuit of the RV?There was that test I did using my Rene charger using the 20 volt winding at the same time which oddly enough did not raise the load amps to the little 5 amp battery running the whole works including the outboard motor.I still have everything, more or less, scattered about various farm buildings, from that experiment.I didn't consider the results so surprising, and feel that the entire setup can be looped in several different ways, using batteries.Rebuilding these barns, using a Dewalt 20 volt  brushless screw gun, and lithium batteries, driving four inch timberlock screws all day, has enlightened me a bit regarding what one can do with batteries.Those tools are magic technology.My steel gusset brackets, and the 20'x6"×6" lodgepole pine beams are super quick, and adaptable for framing. The Stihl chainsaw is my friend in this game.Toiling away on the ground, with tons of stone on the property, the old used Catepillar excavator, that I made hydraulic stone grabber lower jaws for, has paid for itself twenty times over. We just use it for everything heavy now, and a lot of stuff around here is heavy, like the 8"×8"x20' posts which it lifts and puts in place easy as can be.The Dewalt cordless is still king with that battery that outdoes the Everready bunny, I used to make those commercials for.The charger seems to take less than 15 minutes to charge the battery. The brushless motor in that tool is unbelievably powerful going from straight drive into impact as the torque demands it. There has been some serious design thought going into these tools.All carpenters are using them now.I might try to run the big Kromery with the drill.We still have the awkward battery charge swapping and changing battery issue to deal with, but I am pretty sure there is another way to loop in there.Industry is creeping up on us when we aren't looking.We should take full advantage of the good ideas.Cheers Warren

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  On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 at 5:45 AM, werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

HI KONE  ,I have a RV motor set up to play w/and have not seen that new RV circuit..OR MAYBE I HAVE & DID'NT NOTICE!!Could you maybe send it ? 

    On Friday, August 10, 2018 8:44 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     Hi Warren
I assume that extra HV DC from the bridge shoves itself back into lead acid battery powering the invertor that feeds AC intootor to run it as you know you can hat away when using big lead acids with running HV DC into them to charge them.
So sort of like amps comes from series transformer and voltage comes from HV FWBR and they coheree when paralleled into lead acid battery as the "recceptacle" of each.
There might be something going on when that output from series transformer and the HV DC combine togetherr in parallel looping back to DC source of the lead.acid battery that is not realized until the experiment is done on bench
Hector has put up this "new" RV circuit 20 times at least and still nobody with an RV motor to play with has tried it!
No big problem if start up needs a cut out switch during stsrtup.maybe it doesnt...
I see where an invertor that simply alternates low voltage or higher voltage DC into AC by swapping polarity flow everyyother pulse could be looped back.into the RV motor and caps could be.used insread.of a battery. ( maybe electrets!)
Also that HV DC could be fed into a 2nd Dc type motor, such as treadmill or universal ACDC washing machine motorr and belted to shaft of RV motor to give.more torque, maybe make stand alone looper like that
........."You got the pow-wah"
Kome  

       
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Hello Warren,

the diode plug works perfectly, unfortunately I have very little time currently, probably only in a few months, I can go on again, as long as I'm looking for old HV capacitors I can operate in high impedance in Ferroresonanz.

The charging and discharging of the capacitors works wonderfully, probably I can reduce the capacitors and still achieve the full saturation of the push-pull transformer which would increase the efficiency. I think that also means the vote is that you have to find the minimum energy so that just enters the saturation.

Nevertheless, I think that I will not find the sweetspot of the transformer with the sine wave inverter with fixed frequency.

Therefore, I will soon finish the push-pull inverter first, I will try it with 3 voltage sources or over 3 transformers to separate the energy so there are no more interference.

Operating circuit
Control circuit for driver optocoupler mosfet side
Rectangular generator SG3525 adjustable frequency and pulse width.

It is always amazing how the sound when discharging the capacitors in the transformer or transformers is.

As a note:
I think that you can install the Series transformer in Rotoverter Primemover as well in the resonant circuit of the Transverter to achieve similar results or charge a battery.

regards

Sven

Hi Warren
I dont know exactly what effiency  Sven has got because his switching is always exploding!
He does say the diode plug wrks good with no reflection back to primary so that is good.
Kone

the only thing required is the 3 phase motors , a capacitor vector and an impedance vector .... 
 

 

I had posted and explained this one million times put a capacitor the motor spins one way put a reactive inductor and the motor spins the other way ,

put them in opposed phases  you manage the spin in one direction changing
capacitance & impedance values and that can be made by LOADING either the impedance and or the capacitance .

Its not my fault others take the information and mix it with their personal bullshit ! 


RV info Suffices for a novel  as extreme simple concept of energy savings

Only requires a serious university R&D effort , but the forces to be want people enslaved to energy waste ...

People are too easy distracted (  Fuck, Shit, Cunt, Dick  )  ) thats for the 
post reading robots !


(H)





 [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

 
Hi Hector These circuits make good sense
 It requires some careful coil winding on a proper three phase transformer laminated core.
 Also I see that though you have charging, you don't include the inverter drive from 13.8 volts to 120 volts AC.
 What prevents this from being included?
 Is this not related to Sven's work with the Transferred experiments?
 On  practical level, more instruction might be useful for those challenged with rewinding a 3 phase transformer core.
 Unless more people get to make successful RV and Transverter replications, this discovery will go nowhere, except curious circuit archives, read only by whacko nerds probing the history of our era, if at all.
 Take a little time to try a step by step manual. If only one 20 year old can build this, you will have been a success.
 If an Inuit recycling an abandoned DEW line radar station is able to follow your instructions, and  build one, you will have my vote of nomination for an Order Of Canada, if not a Nobel award.
 Cheers Warren
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 On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 at 7:57 AM, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

Warren,
Tell me more about the Dewalt impact driver and the battery.  What is the rating on the battery and the model number of the impact driver?  I might buy a couple of them as ours are nearly ready to be replaced.  I'm also amazed at how much work they can do, but it all depends on the size and capacity of the battery.
George

    On Saturday, 11 August 2018, 10:09:09 pm AEST, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
Doug
You know on the multi tap transformer I used to step the voltage down on the series capacitor run circuit of the RV?There was that test I did using my Rene charger using the 20 volt winding at the same time which oddly enough did not raise the load amps to the little 5 amp battery running the whole works including the outboard motor.I still have everything, more or less, scattered about various farm buildings, from that experiment.I didn't consider the results so surprising, and feel that the entire setup can be looped in several different ways, using batteries.Rebuilding these barns, using a Dewalt 20 volt  brushless screw gun, and lithium batteries, driving four inch timberlock screws all day, has enlightened me a bit regarding what one can do with batteries.Those tools are magic technology.My steel gusset brackets, and the 20'x6"×6" lodgepole pine beams are super quick, and adaptable for framing. The Stihl chainsaw is my friend in this game.Toiling away on the ground, with tons of stone on the property, the old used Catepillar excavator, that I made hydraulic stone grabber lower jaws for, has paid for itself twenty times over. We just use it for everything heavy now, and a lot of stuff around here is heavy, like the 8"×8"x20' posts which it lifts and puts in place easy as can be.The Dewalt cordless is still king with that battery that outdoes the Everready bunny, I used to make those commercials for.The charger seems to take less than 15 minutes to charge the battery. The brushless motor in that tool is unbelievably powerful going from straight drive into impact as the torque demands it. There has been some serious design thought going into these tools.All carpenters are using them now.I might try to run the big Kromery with the drill.We still have the awkward battery charge swapping and changing battery issue to deal with, but I am pretty sure there is another way to loop in there.Industry is creeping up on us when we aren't looking.We should take full advantage of the good ideas.Cheers Warren

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  On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 at 5:45 AM, werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

HI KONE  ,I have a RV motor set up to play w/and have not seen that new RV circuit..OR MAYBE I HAVE & DID'NT NOTICE!!Could you maybe send it ? 

    On Friday, August 10, 2018 8:44 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     Hi Warren
I assume that extra HV DC from the bridge shoves itself back into lead acid battery powering the invertor that feeds AC intootor to run it as you know you can hat away when using big lead acids with running HV DC into them to charge them.
So sort of like amps comes from series transformer and voltage comes from HV FWBR and they coheree when paralleled into lead acid battery as the "recceptacle" of each.
There might be something going on when that output from series transformer and the HV DC combine togetherr in parallel looping back to DC source of the lead.acid battery that is not realized until the experiment is done on bench
Hector has put up this "new" RV circuit 20 times at least and still nobody with an RV motor to play with has tried it!
No big problem if start up needs a cut out switch during stsrtup.maybe it doesnt...
I see where an invertor that simply alternates low voltage or higher voltage DC into AC by swapping polarity flow everyyother pulse could be looped back.into the RV motor and caps could be.used insread.of a battery. ( maybe electrets!)
Also that HV DC could be fed into a 2nd Dc type motor, such as treadmill or universal ACDC washing machine motorr and belted to shaft of RV motor to give.more torque, maybe make stand alone looper like that
........."You got the pow-wah"
Kome

makita is quite good , they got an indicator in the battery ...


https://www.homedepot.com/b/Tools-Power-Tools-Power-Tool-Combo-Kits/Makita/N-5yc1vZc2ecZyg https://www.homedepot.com/b/Tools-Power-Tools-Power-Tool-Combo-Kits/Makita/N-5yc1vZc2ecZyg

I got the dual 18 volts one with the extended battery packs .....i may say
 
much better than dewalt .


(H)

---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :

 
 Warren,
 

 Tell me more about the Dewalt impact driver and the battery.  What is the rating on the battery and the model number of the impact driver?  I might buy a couple of them as ours are nearly ready to be replaced.  I'm also amazed at how much work they can do, but it all depends on the size and capacity of the battery.
 

 George

 


 On Saturday, 11 August 2018, 10:09:09 pm AEST, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: 
 

 

   Doug
 You know on the multi tap transformer I used to step the voltage down on the series capacitor run circuit of the RV?
 There was that test I did using my Rene charger using the 20 volt winding at the same time which oddly enough did not raise the load amps to the little 5 amp battery running the whole works including the outboard motor.
 I still have everything, more or less, scattered about various farm buildings, from that experiment.
 I didn't consider the results so surprising, and feel that the entire setup can be looped in several different ways, using batteries.
 Rebuilding these barns, using a Dewalt 20 volt  brushless screw gun, and lithium batteries, driving four inch timberlock screws all day, has enlightened me a bit regarding what one can do with batteries.
 Those tools are magic technology.
 My steel gusset brackets, and the 20'x6"×6" lodgepole pine beams are super quick, and adaptable for framing. The Stihl chainsaw is my friend in this game.
 Toiling away on the ground, with tons of stone on the property, the old used Catepillar excavator, that I made hydraulic stone grabber lower jaws for, has paid for itself twenty times over. We just use it for everything heavy now, and a lot of stuff around here is heavy, like the 8"×8"x20' posts which it lifts and puts in place easy as can be.
 The Dewalt cordless is still king with that battery that outdoes the Everready bunny, I used to make those commercials for.
 The charger seems to take less than 15 minutes to charge the battery. The brushless motor in that tool is unbelievably powerful going from straight drive into impact as the torque demands it. There has been some serious design thought going into these tools.
 All carpenters are using them now.
 I might try to run the big Kromery with the drill.
 We still have the awkward battery charge swapping and changing battery issue to deal with, but I am pretty sure there is another way to loop in there.
 Industry is creeping up on us when we aren't looking.
 We should take full advantage of the good ideas.
 Cheers Warren

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 On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 at 5:45 AM, werner held heldfabrication@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   
 HI KONE  ,I have a RV motor set up to play w/and have not seen that new RV circuit..OR MAYBE I HAVE & DID'NT NOTICE!!
 Could you maybe send it ?
 


 On Friday, August 10, 2018 8:44 PM, "konehead@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

 

   Hi Warren
 I assume that extra HV DC from the bridge shoves itself back into lead acid battery powering the invertor that feeds AC intootor to run it as you know you can hat away when using big lead acids with running HV DC into them to charge them.
 So sort of like amps comes from series transformer and voltage comes from HV FWBR and they coheree when paralleled into lead acid battery as the "recceptacle" of each.
 There might be something going on when that output from series transformer and the HV DC combine togetherr in parallel looping back to DC source of the lead.acid battery that is not realized until the experiment is done on bench
 Hector has put up this "new" RV circuit 20 times at least and still nobody with an RV motor to play with has tried it!
 No big problem if start up needs a cut out switch during stsrtup.maybe it doesnt...
 I see where an invertor that simply alternates low voltage or higher voltage DC into AC by swapping polarity flow everyyother pulse could be looped back.into the RV motor and caps could be.used insread.of a battery. ( maybe electrets!)
 Also that HV DC could be fed into a 2nd Dc type motor, such as treadmill or universal ACDC washing machine motorr and belted to shaft of RV motor to give.more torque, maybe make stand alone looper like that
 ........."You got the pow-wah"
 Kome

GeorgeThe big 5/16" torx drive screws which are either 4" or 8" long can be driven all day on a charge usually.The gun goes into impact mode going through a knot, or tough wood.The battery is a clunker which charges in less than 15 minutes at the end of the day. Look up Dewalt 20 volt drivers and lithium batteries.I don't know if you have the square Robertson headed screws where you are, since they were a Canadian invention, but they are perfect for # 6,8, and 10 screws, working very well using prepared deck screws on1 1/8" pine barn wood planks, onto the posts and beams.I hate working with Philips headed screws.Cheers Warren

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  On Sun, 12 Aug 2018 at 9:49 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

 Warren,
Tell me more about the Dewalt impact driver and the battery.  What is the rating on the battery and the model number of the impact driver?  I might buy a couple of them as ours are nearly ready to be replaced.  I'm also amazed at how much work they can do, but it all depends on the size and capacity of the battery.
George

    On Saturday, 11 August 2018, 10:09:09 pm AEST, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
Doug
You know on the multi tap transformer I used to step the voltage down on the series capacitor run circuit of the RV?There was that test I did using my Rene charger using the 20 volt winding at the same time which oddly enough did not raise the load amps to the little 5 amp battery running the whole works including the outboard motor.I still have everything, more or less, scattered about various farm buildings, from that experiment.I didn't consider the results so surprising, and feel that the entire setup can be looped in several different ways, using batteries.Rebuilding these barns, using a Dewalt 20 volt  brushless screw gun, and lithium batteries, driving four inch timberlock screws all day, has enlightened me a bit regarding what one can do with batteries.Those tools are magic technology.My steel gusset brackets, and the 20'x6"×6" lodgepole pine beams are super quick, and adaptable for framing. The Stihl chainsaw is my friend in this game.Toiling away on the ground, with tons of stone on the property, the old used Catepillar excavator, that I made hydraulic stone grabber lower jaws for, has paid for itself twenty times over. We just use it for everything heavy now, and a lot of stuff around here is heavy, like the 8"×8"x20' posts which it lifts and puts in place easy as can be.The Dewalt cordless is still king with that battery that outdoes the Everready bunny, I used to make those commercials for.The charger seems to take less than 15 minutes to charge the battery. The brushless motor in that tool is unbelievably powerful going from straight drive into impact as the torque demands it. There has been some serious design thought going into these tools.All carpenters are using them now.I might try to run the big Kromery with the drill.We still have the awkward battery charge swapping and changing battery issue to deal with, but I am pretty sure there is another way to loop in there.Industry is creeping up on us when we aren't looking.We should take full advantage of the good ideas.Cheers Warren

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  On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 at 5:45 AM, werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

HI KONE  ,I have a RV motor set up to play w/and have not seen that new RV circuit..OR MAYBE I HAVE & DID'NT NOTICE!!Could you maybe send it ? 

    On Friday, August 10, 2018 8:44 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     Hi Warren
I assume that extra HV DC from the bridge shoves itself back into lead acid battery powering the invertor that feeds AC intootor to run it as you know you can hat away when using big lead acids with running HV DC into them to charge them.
So sort of like amps comes from series transformer and voltage comes from HV FWBR and they coheree when paralleled into lead acid battery as the "recceptacle" of each.
There might be something going on when that output from series transformer and the HV DC combine togetherr in parallel looping back to DC source of the lead.acid battery that is not realized until the experiment is done on bench
Hector has put up this "new" RV circuit 20 times at least and still nobody with an RV motor to play with has tried it!
No big problem if start up needs a cut out switch during stsrtup.maybe it doesnt...
I see where an invertor that simply alternates low voltage or higher voltage DC into AC by swapping polarity flow everyyother pulse could be looped back.into the RV motor and caps could be.used insread.of a battery. ( maybe electrets!)
Also that HV DC could be fed into a 2nd Dc type motor, such as treadmill or universal ACDC washing machine motorr and belted to shaft of RV motor to give.more torque, maybe make stand alone looper like that
.........."You got the pow-wah"
Kome  

       
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Hector,
Yes, I agree that Makita gear is good.  We have been using Ryobi for about 15 years and during that time they stopped making tools for tradesmen and they are only sold in Bunnings stores here as handyman tools.  We had bought 6AH batteries on line and then we could not buy tradesmen quality stuff anymore.  So now they are near the end and we will probably have to go with Makita, but I thought that Warren was very impressed with Dewalt.
George

    On Monday, 13 August 2018, 12:13:09 am AEST, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
makita is quite good , they got an indicator in the battery ...


https://www.homedepot.com/b/Tools-Power-Tools-Power-Tool-Combo-Kits/Makita/N-5yc1vZc2ecZyg

I got the dual 18 volts one with the extended battery packs .....i may say


much better than dewalt .


(H)

---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :

Warren,
Tell me more about the Dewalt impact driver and the battery.  What is the rating on the battery and the model number of the impact driver?  I might buy a couple of them as ours are nearly ready to be replaced.  I'm also amazed at how much work they can do, but it all depends on the size and capacity of the battery.
George


 On Saturday, 11 August 2018, 10:09:09 pm AEST, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:


 
Doug
You know on the multi tap transformer I used to step the voltage down on the series capacitor run circuit of the RV?There was that test I did using my Rene charger using the 20 volt winding at the same time which oddly enough did not raise the load amps to the little 5 amp battery running the whole works including the outboard motor.I still have everything, more or less, scattered about various farm buildings, from that experiment.I didn't consider the results so surprising, and feel that the entire setup can be looped in several different ways, using batteries.Rebuilding these barns, using a Dewalt 20 volt  brushless screw gun, and lithium batteries, driving four inch timberlock screws all day, has enlightened me a bit regarding what one can do with batteries.Those tools are magic technology.My steel gusset brackets, and the 20'x6"×6" lodgepole pine beams are super quick, and adaptable for framing. The Stihl chainsaw is my friend in this game.Toiling away on the ground, with tons of stone on the property, the old used Catepillar excavator, that I made hydraulic stone grabber lower jaws for, has paid for itself twenty times over. We just use it for everything heavy now, and a lot of stuff around here is heavy, like the 8"×8"x20' posts which it lifts and puts in place easy as can be.The Dewalt cordless is still king with that battery that outdoes the Everready bunny, I used to make those commercials for.The charger seems to take less than 15 minutes to charge the battery. The brushless motor in that tool is unbelievably powerful going from straight drive into impact as the torque demands it. There has been some serious design thought going into these tools.All carpenters are using them now.I might try to run the big Kromery with the drill.We still have the awkward battery charge swapping and changing battery issue to deal with, but I am pretty sure there is another way to loop in there.Industry is creeping up on us when we aren't looking.We should take full advantage of the good ideas.Cheers Warren

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On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 at 5:45 AM, werner held heldfabrication@... [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 

HI KONE  ,I have a RV motor set up to play w/and have not seen that new RV circuit..OR MAYBE I HAVE & DID'NT NOTICE!!Could you maybe send it ?

 On Friday, August 10, 2018 8:44 PM, "konehead@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

 Hi Warren
I assume that extra HV DC from the bridge shoves itself back into lead acid battery powering the invertor that feeds AC intootor to run it as you know you can hat away when using big lead acids with running HV DC into them to charge them.
So sort of like amps comes from series transformer and voltage comes from HV FWBR and they coheree when paralleled into lead acid battery as the "recceptacle" of each.
There might be something going on when that output from series transformer and the HV DC combine togetherr in parallel looping back to DC source of the lead.acid battery that is not realized until the experiment is done on bench
Hector has put up this "new" RV circuit 20 times at least and still nobody with an RV motor to play with has tried it!
No big problem if start up needs a cut out switch during stsrtup.maybe it doesnt...
I see where an invertor that simply alternates low voltage or higher voltage DC into AC by swapping polarity flow everyyother pulse could be looped back.into the RV motor and caps could be.used insread.of a battery. ( maybe electrets!)
Also that HV DC could be fed into a 2nd Dc type motor, such as treadmill or universal ACDC washing machine motorr and belted to shaft of RV motor to give.more torque, maybe make stand alone looper like that
........."You got the pow-wah"
Kome

Warren,
We use phillips head screws by the thousands in our everyday work.  But we use a lot of the big hex head roofing screws when we have to take rood sheets off.  I see you said it is 20 volt but what is the AH of the battery?
George

    On Monday, 13 August 2018, 2:51:54 am AEST, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
George
The big 5/16" torx drive screws which are either 4" or 8" long can be driven all day on a charge usually.The gun goes into impact mode going through a knot, or tough wood.The battery is a clunker which charges in less than 15 minutes at the end of the day. Look up Dewalt 20 volt drivers and lithium batteries.I don't know if you have the square Robertson headed screws where you are, since they were a Canadian invention, but they are perfect for # 6,8, and 10 screws, working very well using prepared deck screws on1 1/8" pine barn wood planks, onto the posts and beams.I hate working with Philips headed screws.Cheers Warren

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  On Sun, 12 Aug 2018 at 9:49 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

 Warren,
Tell me more about the Dewalt impact driver and the battery.  What is the rating on the battery and the model number of the impact driver?  I might buy a couple of them as ours are nearly ready to be replaced.  I'm also amazed at how much work they can do, but it all depends on the size and capacity of the battery.
George

    On Saturday, 11 August 2018, 10:09:09 pm AEST, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
Doug
You know on the multi tap transformer I used to step the voltage down on the series capacitor run circuit of the RV?There was that test I did using my Rene charger using the 20 volt winding at the same time which oddly enough did not raise the load amps to the little 5 amp battery running the whole works including the outboard motor.I still have everything, more or less, scattered about various farm buildings, from that experiment.I didn't consider the results so surprising, and feel that the entire setup can be looped in several different ways, using batteries.Rebuilding these barns, using a Dewalt 20 volt  brushless screw gun, and lithium batteries, driving four inch timberlock screws all day, has enlightened me a bit regarding what one can do with batteries.Those tools are magic technology.My steel gusset brackets, and the 20'x6"×6" lodgepole pine beams are super quick, and adaptable for framing. The Stihl chainsaw is my friend in this game..Toiling away on the ground, with tons of stone on the property, the old used Catepillar excavator, that I made hydraulic stone grabber lower jaws for, has paid for itself twenty times over. We just use it for everything heavy now, and a lot of stuff around here is heavy, like the 8"×8"x20' posts which it lifts and puts in place easy as can be.The Dewalt cordless is still king with that battery that outdoes the Everready bunny, I used to make those commercials for.The charger seems to take less than 15 minutes to charge the battery. The brushless motor in that tool is unbelievably powerful going from straight drive into impact as the torque demands it. There has been some serious design thought going into these tools.All carpenters are using them now.I might try to run the big Kromery with the drill.We still have the awkward battery charge swapping and changing battery issue to deal with, but I am pretty sure there is another way to loop in there.Industry is creeping up on us when we aren't looking.We should take full advantage of the good ideas.Cheers Warren

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  On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 at 5:45 AM, werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

HI KONE  ,I have a RV motor set up to play w/and have not seen that new RV circuit..OR MAYBE I HAVE & DID'NT NOTICE!!Could you maybe send it ? 

    On Friday, August 10, 2018 8:44 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     Hi Warren
I assume that extra HV DC from the bridge shoves itself back into lead acid battery powering the invertor that feeds AC intootor to run it as you know you can hat away when using big lead acids with running HV DC into them to charge them.
So sort of like amps comes from series transformer and voltage comes from HV FWBR and they coheree when paralleled into lead acid battery as the "recceptacle" of each.
There might be something going on when that output from series transformer and the HV DC combine togetherr in parallel looping back to DC source of the lead.acid battery that is not realized until the experiment is done on bench
Hector has put up this "new" RV circuit 20 times at least and still nobody with an RV motor to play with has tried it!
No big problem if start up needs a cut out switch during stsrtup.maybe it doesnt...
I see where an invertor that simply alternates low voltage or higher voltage DC into AC by swapping polarity flow everyyother pulse could be looped back.into the RV motor and caps could be.used insread.of a battery. ( maybe electrets!)
Also that HV DC could be fed into a 2nd Dc type motor, such as treadmill or universal ACDC washing machine motorr and belted to shaft of RV motor to give.more torque, maybe make stand alone looper like that
..........."You got the pow-wah"
Kome

GeorgeIt is the Dewalt 20 volt max XR lithium Ion 4 amp brushless
If you ever have a chance to use the square drive Robertson screws you will ever after hate Philips as a source of frustration. The high alloy steel insert type Robertson driver bits with deck type screws are awesome, serious fasteners.Once you leave #8 &#10 screws, the Torx drive Timberlock type of engineered 3/8" and 5/16" up to 10" long are hurricane worthy, I read.In use, they take airplane propeller twists out of 20' 8"×8" timbers against my 3/16" thick steel angle gussets which are 6" wide10"×8", which I had mass produced on a big shear and bender, then brought home to drill and paint, as a fastening system. It is working fantastic for me on this rebuild of a 150 year old post and beam structure, that was on death's door.The Dewalt are a super efficient addition to the building system, being small and powerful. The screws are very easy to drive with incredible pulling power without stripping, even in pine. They go in slick without splitting the wood.The screws are expensive in Timberlox size but come with driver bits in each package. They are not cheap, but every one counts when you use them.I just thought the Dewalt drill might be a contender for a drive charging generator system as the batteries charge so quickly and the tiny motors are so powerful?At least for a test.Cheers Warren
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  On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 at 1:57 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

 Warren,
We use phillips head screws by the thousands in our everyday work.  But we use a lot of the big hex head roofing screws when we have to take rood sheets off.  I see you said it is 20 volt but what is the AH of the battery?
George

    On Monday, 13 August 2018, 2:51:54 am AEST, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
George
The big 5/16" torx drive screws which are either 4" or 8" long can be driven all day on a charge usually.The gun goes into impact mode going through a knot, or tough wood.The battery is a clunker which charges in less than 15 minutes at the end of the day. Look up Dewalt 20 volt drivers and lithium batteries.I don't know if you have the square Robertson headed screws where you are, since they were a Canadian invention, but they are perfect for # 6,8, and 10 screws, working very well using prepared deck screws on1 1/8" pine barn wood planks, onto the posts and beams.I hate working with Philips headed screws.Cheers Warren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sun, 12 Aug 2018 at 9:49 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

 Warren,
Tell me more about the Dewalt impact driver and the battery.  What is the rating on the battery and the model number of the impact driver?  I might buy a couple of them as ours are nearly ready to be replaced.  I'm also amazed at how much work they can do, but it all depends on the size and capacity of the battery.
George

    On Saturday, 11 August 2018, 10:09:09 pm AEST, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
Doug
You know on the multi tap transformer I used to step the voltage down on the series capacitor run circuit of the RV?There was that test I did using my Rene charger using the 20 volt winding at the same time which oddly enough did not raise the load amps to the little 5 amp battery running the whole works including the outboard motor.I still have everything, more or less, scattered about various farm buildings, from that experiment.I didn't consider the results so surprising, and feel that the entire setup can be looped in several different ways, using batteries.Rebuilding these barns, using a Dewalt 20 volt  brushless screw gun, and lithium batteries, driving four inch timberlock screws all day, has enlightened me a bit regarding what one can do with batteries.Those tools are magic technology.My steel gusset brackets, and the 20'x6"×6" lodgepole pine beams are super quick, and adaptable for framing. The Stihl chainsaw is my friend in this game..Toiling away on the ground, with tons of stone on the property, the old used Catepillar excavator, that I made hydraulic stone grabber lower jaws for, has paid for itself twenty times over. We just use it for everything heavy now, and a lot of stuff around here is heavy, like the 8"×8"x20' posts which it lifts and puts in place easy as can be.The Dewalt cordless is still king with that battery that outdoes the Everready bunny, I used to make those commercials for.The charger seems to take less than 15 minutes to charge the battery. The brushless motor in that tool is unbelievably powerful going from straight drive into impact as the torque demands it. There has been some serious design thought going into these tools.All carpenters are using them now.I might try to run the big Kromery with the drill.We still have the awkward battery charge swapping and changing battery issue to deal with, but I am pretty sure there is another way to loop in there.Industry is creeping up on us when we aren't looking.We should take full advantage of the good ideas.Cheers Warren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 at 5:45 AM, werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

HI KONE  ,I have a RV motor set up to play w/and have not seen that new RV circuit..OR MAYBE I HAVE & DID'NT NOTICE!!Could you maybe send it ? 

    On Friday, August 10, 2018 8:44 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     Hi Warren
I assume that extra HV DC from the bridge shoves itself back into lead acid battery powering the invertor that feeds AC intootor to run it as you know you can hat away when using big lead acids with running HV DC into them to charge them.
So sort of like amps comes from series transformer and voltage comes from HV FWBR and they coheree when paralleled into lead acid battery as the "recceptacle" of each.
There might be something going on when that output from series transformer and the HV DC combine togetherr in parallel looping back to DC source of the lead.acid battery that is not realized until the experiment is done on bench
Hector has put up this "new" RV circuit 20 times at least and still nobody with an RV motor to play with has tried it!
No big problem if start up needs a cut out switch during stsrtup.maybe it doesnt...
I see where an invertor that simply alternates low voltage or higher voltage DC into AC by swapping polarity flow everyyother pulse could be looped back.into the RV motor and caps could be.used insread.of a battery. ( maybe electrets!)
Also that HV DC could be fed into a 2nd Dc type motor, such as treadmill or universal ACDC washing machine motorr and belted to shaft of RV motor to give.more torque, maybe make stand alone looper like that
............"You got the pow-wah"
Kome  

       
        
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Hi George
The screws Warren mentions are not hex or Phillips they are square holes to insert the square bits into...t they really are the best as near impossible to strip, and if you have to pull them out and re do they Zip right out can be used again and again ...alll decent carpenters working with wood use them up in Seattle area, they are a Canadian invention...
I prefer Milwaukee screw guns, and still like long electric cords for better torque never batteries to charge ...i was union carpenter,  metal stud framer. drywall hanger for a few years and  would also go through maybe thousand screws in 8 hour shift. zing zing  zing  have to be fast or you.get a freeway job (you're down the road). electricians always in our way! 
Kone

DougI have a Milwaukee screw gun like you mention.It is very good, and never fails.What I am saying, is there is a new kid on the block with these Dewalt little plastic toys, so tiny, it is hard to take them seriously, until you do a day's work with them.I like the Milwaukee with the dry wall screw automatic release as a rugged piece of gear. You rarely have to remove a drywall screw once in as it gets muddled over anyway.We put up an industrial show in Las Vegas back in the mid Eighties at Comdex for Omni Magazine, a "room of the future" on a 30'x30 raised stage. It was delivered from Toronto as a pile of spruce 2x4's and plywood , making the union carps snicker and poke each other in the ribs with their elbows next door, at the neighbouring booths.Most companies spent at least half a million bucks on a booth that size, with very fancy snap together fittings.When we arrived with our Robertson screws and little Makitas they didn't know what the neighbours were up to. Our "set" was designed by an Argentine Architech, I hired as an art director, and the whole "stage" was prefabricated in the manner of summer traveling theatre that they did in Canada, back then, on zero budget. However, from those very humble materials, a glitzy room of the future morphed into one of the best booths in the show, getting Omni Magazine three million a year in IBM advertising, and having us screw it together in New York, and Atlanta, Comdex shows.This was a crazy deviation from our film making making, all started by me answering the phone in my office to a caller from Florida, asking " how much for a room of the future?"to which, I replied with the questions " how big of a room, and how far in to the future?"as we had been doing science fiction films,  it was a normal request.Ah, screw guns!We should keep in mind what is happening with the brushless dc motors and super magnets with our device designs. I might also rethink the concept of batteries after you having the experience with those Dewalt lithium systems. Over unity is a concept we strive for.Reality is fast approaching that border, with on the market tools.It is a combination of ideas that wi likely be successful when it happens.Cheers Warren

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  On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 at 3:24 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi George
The screws Warren mentions are not hex or Phillips they are square holes to insert the square bits into...t they really are the best as near impossible to strip, and if you have to pull them out and re do they Zip right out can be used again and again ...alll decent carpenters working with wood use them up in Seattle area, they are a Canadian invention...
I prefer Milwaukee screw guns, and still like long electric cords for better torque never batteries to charge ...i was union carpenter, metal stud framer. drywall hanger for a few years and would also go through maybe thousand screws in 8 hour shift. zing zing zing have to be fast or you.get a freeway job (you're down the road). electricians always in our way! 
Kone


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Hi James,

"...did you notice the twin copper rails that were just a long loop which would be a dead short with conventional electrical energy .."
This would only apply for steady state DC. Copper rails have inductance and resistance as well as capacitance between them and to the ambient. Thus treated in an AC model it can store energy and have crests and nodes along their length when waves are traveling along them. This was exactly what Tesla demonstrated in that experiment.

Regards
Ole

 

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 Norm in that PDF he states that Tesla said that there were three things when handled right create the effect .resistance .voltage ..capacitance ..I think that's right .which brings me to something else did you notice the twin copper rails that were just a long loop which would be a dead short with conventional electrical energy ...he slid a light blub along the rods till it lite up ..at a point on the rods .this would be a Node point were all things got right .so if your not looking for it you wouldn't get the real power it has to offer .all so I saw don Smith in one of his vids using a gator clip seeking a Node point on his coil..and Bedini said that you could just keep finding them along a wire and pull more and more energy without effecting the others . just a thought .
 On Aug 7, 2018 1:04 PM, "James Glinski" <jglinski01@... mailto:jglinski01@...> wrote:
 Yes looks like we've been looking for love ...free energy in all the wrong places .I thank it's miss direction by evil people looking to control the information .and just a general lack of replication .what ? Hivoltage  positive pluse stream using a cap a spark gap and magnetic or air quenching ? Then collect the radiant .sounds simple .that Swiss power wheel may be the same tec in a different form .it said in the PDF that there is a way to use hivoltage negitve the same way .that wheel uses both I think firing those hivoltage pluses from the electrostatic wheel into those big cans/caps collect the radiant and they recycle it to run the wheel .easy because your not using any solid state in it only caps . Bedini was shown the insides of it and he drew a picture of what he saw its on the net somewhere I've seen it before but lost track of it .if I remember right theres a spark gap ...a carbon rod siver tipped ... in the middle surounded by concentric copper rings with holes in them to collect the radiant .remember radiant will run a inverter when put Thu caps first . when something will electrify a whole room and several floors down too that's impressive .nothing else compares. It's like rain it's there just get more buckets .
 On Aug 6, 2018 7:44 PM, "edarrell71@... mailto:edarrell71@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
   
 JIm, you said; " tesla's work was completely different from modern energy sources ."
 

 Just like Stanley Meyers Hydrogen Buggy invention, it never even looked like what has been shared with the public. Stan's semi- complete device had only three parts, 1. the spark plug and optics connected to it, 2. A connection to the distributor, and an onboard computer.
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=Zf6GvCvcEDg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf6GvCvcEDg

Sounds good Doug.  We haven't used them for roof sheets.
George

    On Tuesday, 14 August 2018, 5:24:05 pm AEST, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
Hi George
The screws Warren mentions are not hex or Phillips they are square holes to insert the square bits into...t they really are the best as near impossible to strip, and if you have to pull them out and re do they Zip right out can be used again and again ...alll decent carpenters working with wood use them up in Seattle area, they are a Canadian invention...
I prefer Milwaukee screw guns, and still like long electric cords for better torque never batteries to charge ...i was union carpenter, metal stud framer. drywall hanger for a few years and would also go through maybe thousand screws in 8 hour shift. zing zing zing have to be fast or you.get a freeway job (you're down the road). electricians always in our way! 
Kone

The torx  wood screws are  good too as long as you keep drive bit  vertical / aligned properly . 

                                                                                                     Joe.

Those have been around for AGES , I remember working on a 1972 champion trailer that used those SQUARE BIT COUNTERSUNK WOOD SCREWS ALL OVER THE TRAILER !!CHEERS W.M.HELD 

    On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 12:54 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     The torx  wood screws are  good too as long as you keep drive bit  vertical / aligned properly .
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