Re: AW: Re: [EVGRAY] Capacitor and how to reach the capacity.

From: Homemade Lightning Creative Experiments in Electricity, R.A. Ford

The electrical entitiespages 173 – 178

A LABORATORY ILLUSTRATION OF BALL LIGHTNING

In Dr. Elihu Thompson’s Address at the opening of the Palmer Physical 
Laboratory at Princeton University he made , with regard to ball 
lightning, the statement, “The difficulty here is that it is too 
accidental and rare for consistent study, and we have not asyet any 
laboratory phenomenon which resemble it closely”. This suggested to me 
that a phenomenon which I witnessed some six or seven years ago might be 
worth recording.

With a copper wire a student accidentally short-circuited the terminals 
of an ordinary 110 volt circuit. I happened at the time to be a few 
meters from him and to looking toward the terminals. At the instant of 
the short circuit I saw an incandescent ball which appeared to roll 
slowly from the terminals across the laboratory table and then 
disappeared.As I remember it, I should say that the ball may have 
appeared to be about three centimeters in diameter. I think no one else 
in the room saw anything more than a flash of light-much as if a fuse 
had blown. On the table where the ball had rolled we found a line of 
scorched spots, as if the ball had bounced along the table and had 
scorched the wood wherever it touched.As I remember them, these scorched 
spots were rather close together, perhaps not more than one or two 
centimeters apart.In the top of the table was a crack perhaps a 
millimeter or two wide, and at this crack the scorched line ended. In 
the drawer immediately under this crack we found a tiny copper ball, 
perhaps a millimeter in diameter. Apparently the ball that rolled across 
the table was incandescent copper vapor, although my memory of it is of 
a yellow-white than of a greenish light.

The above suggested the possibility of a laboratory study of a 
phenomenon which may very possibly be similar to that of ball lightning, 
but have never attempted to repeat the experiment.

A.T. Jones

Purdue University

18-8A laboratory illustration of ball lightning.Science, B.S. 1910

EXTRACT OF A LETTER FROM MR. ARDEN, LECTURER, IN NATURAL PHILOSOPHY, 
DATED SEPTEMBER 25, 1772

“About fourteen or fifteen years ago, in the presence of Wm. Constable, 
Esq. at his seat at Burton, in Holderness, I made the following experiments:

“I placed a large coated jar that would hold three or four gallons, 
directly under the prime Conductor of a very good electrical machine. 
The prime Conductor was at least eight or ten inches above the top of 
the jar, and the communication was made by a brass wire, bent at one end 
over the prime Conductor, and the other end passed through small glass 
tube (contrived by Mr. Constable to prevent the electric matter from 
easily flying off) was suspended in the middle of the jar, and had a 
small piece of brass chain fastened to it, that rested on the bottom of 
the jar.

“I then began to turn the wheel, and about 100 or 150 times, as low in 
the jar as I could for the coating, I perceived a ball of fire, much 
resembling a red hot iron bullet, and three quarters of an inch in 
diameter, turning round upon its axis, and ascending up the glass tube 
that contained the brass wire, which was the Conductor to the inside of 
the jar.

“I immediately asked Mr. Constable, if he saw the ball of fire? He said, 
certainly.I said, ‘I will turn on’. He answered, ‘By all means’.I kept 
turning the wheel, and the ball of fire continued turning on its axis, 
and ascending up the glass tube till it got quite upon the top of the 
prime Conductor.There it turned upon its axis for some time, then 
gradually descended, turning upon its axis as it had done on its assent, 
and so continued till it was so much below the top of the coating that 
we couldno longer see it. But soon

18-9 The Arden and Constable experiment, De L’ Electricite’ Des 
Meteores, Vol. 1, 1787, Abbe Bertholon

Insert photo #1

After this, a very great flash was seen; a large explosion was heard, 
and strong smell of Sulphur was present all over the room; a round 
aperture was cut through the side of the jar, as fine as if it were cut 
with a diamond, rather more than three quarters of an inch in diameter, 
and between two to three inches below the top of the coating, and the 
coating was torn off all round the aperture, about three to four inches 
in diameter. The jar was a pretty strong one, of crown glass.

Insert photo #2

“I then took another jar, so like the first, that when both were whole I 
could not perceive any difference between them.I then attempted to 
charge this, in the same manner as the other, and we both observed it 
accurately. No ball of fire was seen, but presently the jar discharged 
itself with a great flash and explosion, and at about the same part as 
the first jar, but instead of an aperture which was made in the first 
jar, there was a circle about three quarters of an inch in diameter, as 
white as chalk, and the coating torn off round about it as before.Upon 
touching the white part, it dropped out and appeared to be glass in fine 
powder.

“We broke several other different sized jars that day, (which made Mr. 
Constable say we were in great luck) but without any thing remarkable.

“The first experiment was made soon in the afternoon of a clear day, and 
the machine stood directly between us and a window, which was not above 
a yard from it.I don’t hear that the ball of fire has been produced by 
art by anyone else, to this day, although it is produced by nature.

“I had the pleasure of seeing Mr. Constable this day, and of reading the 
account of these experiments to him, and, to the best of his memory, he 
thought the whole was strictly true.

“Mr. Constable thinks it would not be difficult to repeat the 
experiment, and to produce the ball of fire at any time, provided the 
jar is large, and not coated too near the top, and that the wire 
communicating the prime Conductor to the inside of the jar is made to 
pass through a small glass tube (which is certainly of great advantage 
of making experiments of this kind) and that the machine acts very 
strong. If not, it will be in vain to attempt it’.

R.A. Ford

I can only conclude that Mr. Constable was a man of few words!

Several key points are worth noting in Arden and Constable’s 
experiment:the Leyden jar’s central wire has several points of lose 
contact including the chain links and sliding joint.The jar is large and 
and is charged slowly, almost to the flash over point.The open jar, the 
overhead window, and the fact that the visible fireball was formed early 
in the test, but not later, indicates that a film of moisture in the 
glass jar and the central glass tube is the most important requirements. 
In In the historical evolution of the Leyden jar, the early form 
included no lid. Natural philosophers soon discovered that by blowing 
into the jar, the moisture would greatly increase the storable charge.

Many theories have been advanced to account for the large amounts of 
energy and long lifetimes of these electric entities (usually 1 to 5 
seconds).Fireballs have been known to cause major damage to tile roofs 
and chimneys, bend heavy iron gates and door hinges, bring a barrel of 
water to its boiling point in a short time, and bore small holes through 
granite blocks.Some of these points are described in Brand’s report of 
1923.An especially good book on the subject is Ball Lightning and Bead 
Lightning by James D. Barry (1980). None of the theories mentioned in 
these two sources require a major shift in fundamental physics concepts.

Theoretical implications

I personally feel these explanations do not account for the enormous 
energy content in a small space.The three artificial electric-entity 
productions featured here involve no large power requirement to initiate 
a formation.

Following are two unorthodox theories, seldom seen:

1.In line with Gustave Le Bon’s ideas on the universal dissociation of 
matter, a fireball would be seen as a slow energy-conversion process, in 
which elemental matter (water molecules, for example) yields its 
intrinsic potential energy. When the quantity of moisture is reduced to 
a low level, the fireball becomes starved out of existence. Le Bon 
pointed out the large number of electrons bound in a single gram of 
water.Should these electrons be freed to appear as charge, an enormous 
96,000 coulombs of electricity would be produced.One coulomb applied to 
each of two spheres 1 meter apart represents an electrostatic force of 2 
billion pounds!Normally, only tiny fraction of a coulomb is found in nature.

2.The second view involves a return to our discussion of gravitation. In 
this theory, an energy conversion occurs that disturbs the “concealed or 
hidden” motions in space (hypothesized by Heinrich Hertz in 1899 to 
account for the storage of potential energy).

Also, odd gravity anomalies are associated with electric entities, 
specifically, heavy, fragile objects fall without being broken.This 
action implies that the basic properties or constants od space itself 
have been altered.Since the true nature of electrification is concealed 
a the molecular level, perhaps electrification produces disturbances in 
the incessant, hidden motions of space.These disturbancesare manifested 
as heat, light and mass motion-one form of which is the appearance of 
ball lightning.

These two views, of course, are quite unsettling because they require a 
major paradigm shift in fundamental physics concepts and an enlargement 
of our scientific foundational principles.Some physicist have admitted 
that the formation of ball lightning in metal enclosures, such as 
airplanes, raises the question of how such large energy densities in a 
small space are maintained (see Nature, volume 224, 1969, p, 895 , for 
example).The metal enclosures ensure that fireballs are not supplied 
externally with electromagnetic energy, as some theoretical physicists 
have imagined.We have, in ball lightning, a means by which energy is 
extracted from the nearby quiescent environment and manifests itself as 
heat, light and mass motion.If this conclusion is justified, then it 
would be a natural case of negative entropy; that is , energy flowing 
“uphill”, not downhill, as is required by the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

One article in favor of this limitation is “The Second Law of 
Thermodynamics and the ‘Death’ of Energy, with Notes on the 
Thermodynamics of the Atmosphere,” by Charles P. Steinmetz from General 
Electric Review (July1912).

Expressing the second law of thermodynamics in the words: “With out 
expenditure of other form of energy heat flows only from higher to lower 
temperature,” the author shows that the logical sequence from this is 
the conclusion that eventually all energy transformation will stop, 
i.e., all motion will cease and the universe will be dead.The conclusion 
is not a reasonable one and the author sets out to disprove the general 
applicability of the law.Adopting as his line of reasoning the 
thermodynamics of gases, he shows how, attending the escape of molecules 
from the attraction of earth into the cosmic space, there is a heat 
energy flow from a temperature of 10 deg. C, to one of 60,000 deg. 
C.Even within the earth’s atmosphere, and without considering what 
happens in cosmic space, he shows that there is a transferenceof heat 
energy from lower to higher temperatures, and leads us to the conclusion 
that this law of thermodynamics is not of universal application, but 
applies only within the limited range of thermodynamic engines, from 
which it has been derived.

In addition to Dr. Steinmetz, physicists James Clerk Maxwell, Thomas 
Preston, and Lucien Poincare held a similar view of the Second Law of 
Thermodynamics.

A thought-provoking implication presented itself when I reflected on 
Arden and Constable’s simple experiment, performed during the latter 
part of the eighteenth century. With their homemade frictional generator 
and Leyden jar, they succeeded in producing a phenomenon that today’s 
government research centers have failed to duplicate using the best 
high-powered generators and large financial investments.

Extrapolating from this paradox, it now appears that it is possible to 
produce quite anomalous results by employing a large number of 
principles through which nature operates.The experimental lab should 
duplicate natural environmental conditions; sterility and uniformity are 
often barriers to the discovery of new laws.

The application of this philosophical approach could result in a great 
simplification of our technology, making it more reliable with less 
waste and pollution as by-products.These possibilities require a greater 
resiliency and willingness to think in different modes.Fortunately, the 
spirt of inquiry and creativity is innate in each new generation of 
children.

R.A. Ford

At the “New Energy Conference”, 1995Fusion Facts, Hal Fox sponsored, 
Radisson Hotel, Denver CO.I had the opportunity to discuss, during 
breakfast, the above “Dissociation of matter” with Hal Puthoff and 
Kenneth Shoulders. My question was: “If you were able to “annihilate” a 
quantity of water yielding an enormous electron output, what would 
happen to the ‘protons”???Hal Puthoff did not even think twice and said 
“They would “snap” back into the space background, just as I presented 
in ZPE doc, Nature. “Spontaneous formation of hydrogen in free space”!

Ball Lightning was a big area of research by Ken Shoulders (RIP) and was 
a centerpiece of his Charged Cluster Research.

http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue61/chargeclusters.html

http://www.padrak.com/ine/NEN_5_2_8.html

http://padrak.com/ine/FB97_1.html


On 4/23/2018 5:40 AM, 'S.friedrich' [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hello Warren, I have Unfortunately, just a DC Motor 1.3 kw 
> performance, everything else are toys engines or Universal engines the 
> not magnets have. I have now 4 of the 3,15kv capacitors ordered. I 
> think if we free energy search then in the high voltage or in the 
> electric field. it's here very still has become prepare all at the end 
> time zenario before? greetings Sven
>
> Von Samsung Mobile gesendet
>
>
> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
> Von: "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]"
> Datum:22.04.2018 20:51 (GMT+01:00)
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: [EVGRAY] Capacitor and how to reach the capacity.
>
> Sven
>
> The capacitor experimenting is very interesting indeed.
> You know, I ws making capacitors a while back, and found it 
> ridiculously easy to make very good capacitors from cheap common 
> materials.
> How about polyethylene sheet plastic and aluminium foil? How cheap can 
> you get, along with spray adhesive, hot glue and some scraps of 
> aluminium wire for tig welding. Oh! I forgot, empty toilet paper core 
> tubes hahaha. They work great, even for 10,000 volts without flash 
> over. They are not tiny little packages by any means, but you can make 
> them any value you want to, just more surface area, and a bigger or 
> smaller roll.
> I have news regarding my daisey chain bridge rectifiers and big dc motors.
> I have been running the 1.5 hp dc motor that is currently driving the 
> 100 lb flywheel because I am too lazy to take it apart. It is also 
> driving a little 40 volt fractional horsepower dc motor with a vee 
> belt none of which is directly part of the experiment, except possibly 
> as a load. I am running it using a variac and bridge rectifier at 
> about 11.2 volts.
> Just inserting another bridge rectifier ac
> Now I am working these big motors way below their rated hlegs down 
> between the two brush wires of the 1.5 hp 90 volt motor( running on 
> 11.2 volts) yields 12.4 volts dc !
> Interesting! However, I noticed a slight jump in the line amperage 
> required of half an amp using a little automotive 12 dc motor. When 
> taking that connection to a big 1.5 horsepower dc gearhead motor with 
> a 10:1 heavy gearbox, there was zero rise in amperage, as opposed to 
> the little automotive motor.l am running these big motors way below 
> their standard voltage.
> I have noted the voltage increase, and now the zero feedback to the 
> source amperage.
> If you have any largish dc motors, give it a try, as I think you have 
> everything in your test room.
> It is not fancy, or in anyway difficult to do.
> I have yet to flip the ac leads back and forth to see if it makes a 
> difference in performance regarding the second motor, and system 
> amperage draw.
> Cheers Warren
>
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>
>     On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 1:58 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     I found something interesting and wonder if this is relevant.
>
>     Capacitor Capacitance is reached by the size of the plates, that
>     will be clear to everyone here, but the distance of the plates
>     also has a strong influence on it I would not have thought now.
>
>     In tests the distance between the plates is increased and the
>     voltage increases and vice versa the capacity. I had not thought
>     of that.
>
>     I always wonder if it's because of the capacitors we get today
>     which are much more compact and smaller than before, maybe the
>     dielectric is so thin that the gaps between the plates are so
>     small that the new capacitors do not produce the same effect as
>     the old ones , The old capacitors certainly had much larger plates
>     than the new ones at a greater distance to achieve the same
>     capacity. I may be on the wrong track, but I think you can think
>     about it.
>
>     I was able to get 4x 10μF capacitors from old production and
>     withstand the 3.15kv and in relation to the other capacitors I
>     have huge.
>
>     I want the transverter with max. Drive impedance and make the
>     connection via small coupling capacitors to the diode plug.
>     Perhaps one could tap the earth into the resonance system via a
>     diode. I wanted to protect the diode connector with several
>     suppressor diodes in series to short-circuit if more like 1200V
>     are transmitted.
>
>     I always have to think about my high-voltage test where the ground
>     connection could trigger the spark gap faster. Unfortunately, I
>     could not measure any voltage or no devices that can stand it.
>
>     regards
>
>     Sven
>
>
>

Hello Warren, I have Unfortunately, just a DC Motor 1.3 kw performance, everything else are toys engines or Universal engines the not magnets have. I have now 4 of the 3,15kv capacitors ordered. I think if we free energy search then in the high voltage or in the electric field. it's here very still has become prepare all at the end time zenario before? greetings Sven

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Von: "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
Datum:22.04.2018  20:51  (GMT+01:00) 
An: [email protected] 
Betreff: Re: [EVGRAY] Capacitor and how to reach the capacity. 

Sven

The capacitor experimenting is very interesting indeed.
You know, I ws making capacitors a while back, and found it ridiculously easy to make very good capacitors from cheap common materials.
How about polyethylene sheet plastic and aluminium foil? How cheap can you get, along with spray adhesive, hot glue and some scraps of aluminium wire for tig welding. Oh! I forgot, empty toilet paper core tubes hahaha. They work great, even for 10,000 volts without flash over. They are not tiny little packages by any means, but you can make them any value you want to, just more surface area, and a bigger or smaller roll.
I have news regarding my daisey chain bridge rectifiers and big dc motors.
I have been running the 1.5 hp dc motor that is currently driving the 100 lb flywheel because I am too lazy to take it apart. It is also driving a little 40 volt fractional horsepower dc motor with a vee belt none of which is directly part of the experiment, except possibly as a load. I am running it using a variac and bridge rectifier at about 11.2 volts.
Just inserting another bridge rectifier ac 
Now I am working these big motors way below their rated hlegs down between the two brush wires of the 1.5 hp 90 volt motor( running on 11.2 volts) yields 12.4 volts dc !
Interesting! However, I noticed a slight jump in the line amperage required of half an amp using a little automotive 12 dc motor. When taking that connection to a big 1.5 horsepower dc gearhead motor with a 10:1 heavy gearbox, there was zero rise in amperage, as opposed to the little automotive motor.l am running these big motors way below their standard voltage.
I have noted the voltage increase, and now the zero feedback to the source amperage.
If you have any largish dc motors, give it a try, as I think you have everything in your test room.
It is not fancy, or in anyway difficult to do. 
I have yet to flip the ac leads back and forth to see if it makes a difference in performance regarding the second motor, and system amperage draw.
Cheers Warren

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On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 1:58 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:
 
I found something interesting and wonder if this is relevant.

Capacitor Capacitance is reached by the size of the plates, that will be clear to everyone here, but the distance of the plates also has a strong influence on it I would not have thought now.

In tests the distance between the plates is increased and the voltage increases and vice versa the capacity. I had not thought of that.

I always wonder if it's because of the capacitors we get today which are much more compact and smaller than before, maybe the dielectric is so thin that the gaps between the plates are so small that the new capacitors do not produce the same effect as the old ones , The old capacitors certainly had much larger plates than the new ones at a greater distance to achieve the same capacity. I may be on the wrong track, but I think you can think about it.

I was able to get 4x 10μF capacitors from old production and withstand the 3.15kv and in relation to the other capacitors I have huge.

I want the transverter with max. Drive impedance and make the connection via small coupling capacitors to the diode plug. Perhaps one could tap the earth into the resonance system via a diode. I wanted to protect the diode connector with several suppressor diodes in series to short-circuit if more like 1200V are transmitted.

I always have to think about my high-voltage test where the ground connection could trigger the spark gap faster. Unfortunately, I could not measure any voltage or no devices that can stand it.

regards

Sven

SvenPlease don' t stop what you are reseaching with the high voltage.It is completely important, and valid.I only suggested, because this is such an easy, and quick, experiment to do, if you have the apparatus, mainly large dc permanent magnet motors over 1 hp.These are usually found in urban areas in the garbage as treadmills sitting on the sidewalks by discouraged atheletes in Toronto.Actually, perhaps they were spousal gifts? "Honey what's this?" "do you think I look fat? The contraption then takes up valuable city real estate in the basement until it is quietly moved out to the street.Then it will be a vacuum cleaner out on the street. Soon the house is up for sale.Men, buy your love chocolate, flowers, and silk. Keep machines for yourself to use. Good intentions can quickly go bad.Now back to the found on the street treadmill.The best means I have found is to walk the dog around the neighbourhood. Our black Labrador will only pee after carefully examining every smell on the neighbourhood walk. This means getting up early every day and doing a patrol of the area. When I found Tread mill, would then rush home for the car and tools.On bad days, a scrapper would be loading it in his pickup truck, by the time I got back. I would then have this awkward negotiation as he is chopping the wires off the components, in some cases even the dc motor. I would then have to pull out small folding money until I reach about$10 Canadian, and shrug my shoulders. He might then shrug his shoulders and give me the motor, knowing I am a fool, who doesn't know the damn things are useless. Why any fool knows you can plug them into the power line socket and they don't turn. The scrap yard he goes to gives him about $2 each for them. By the time I get to the scrap yard, they may be in a fifty gallon oil drum half full of rain water, or worse yet, a giant bulk hopper.Buying them new is very expensive, but for work, I have had to do it.Working in New York, and having my crew back in Toronto, with a deadline on another job, needing a big gearhead motor. What can you do but pay the big bucks over $2,500 Canadian for the gearhead unit and feel lucky they have one in stock.Now, in the film business, everything is trash after the scene is captured. They must move out of the rented studio, putting all the scenery in bulk hoppers, and pleased your crew comes in for free to take away the "trash" you supplied, even though it cost thousands.They are just happy with the little moving images captured on film negative or now hard drives, or whatever.The thing is, these motors are very useful for so many applications.When ever you find one cheap, buy it, it is worth it, to keep them, fellow hoarders.Remember: chocolate. It helpsCheers Warren
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  On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 6:40 AM, 'S.friedrich' [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


Hello Warren, I have Unfortunately, just a DC Motor 1.3 kw performance, everything else are toys engines or Universal engines the not magnets have. I have now 4 of the 3,15kv capacitors ordered. I think if we free energy search then in the high voltage or in the electric field. it's here very still has become prepare all at the end time zenario before? greetings Sven
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Von: "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" 
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An: [email protected] 
Betreff: Re: [EVGRAY] Capacitor and how to reach the capacity. 

   
Sven
The capacitor experimenting is very interesting indeed.You know, I ws making capacitors a while back, and found it ridiculously easy to make very good capacitors from cheap common materials.How about polyethylene sheet plastic and aluminium foil? How cheap can you get, along with spray adhesive, hot glue and some scraps of aluminium wire for tig welding. Oh! I forgot, empty toilet paper core tubes hahaha. They work great, even for 10,000 volts without flash over. They are not tiny little packages by any means, but you can make them any value you want to, just more surface area, and a bigger or smaller roll.I have news regarding my daisey chain bridge rectifiers and big dc motors.I have been running the 1.5 hp dc motor that is currently driving the 100 lb flywheel because I am too lazy to take it apart. It is also driving a little 40 volt fractional horsepower dc motor with a vee belt none of which is directly part of the experiment, except possibly as a load. I am running it using a variac and bridge rectifier at about 11.2 volts.Just inserting another bridge rectifier ac Now I am working these big motors way below their rated hlegs down between the two brush wires of the 1.5 hp 90 volt motor( running on 11.2 volts) yields 12.4 volts dc !Interesting! However, I noticed a slight jump in the line amperage required of half an amp using a little automotive 12 dc motor. When taking that connection to a big 1.5 horsepower dc gearhead motor with a 10:1 heavy gearbox, there was zero rise in amperage, as opposed to the little automotive motor.l am running these big motors way below their standard voltage.I have noted the voltage increase, and now the zero feedback to the source amperage.If you have any largish dc motors, give it a try, as I think you have everything in your test room.It is not fancy, or in anyway difficult to do. I have yet to flip the ac leads back and forth to see if it makes a difference in performance regarding the second motor, and system amperage draw.Cheers Warren

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  On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 1:58 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


I found something interesting and wonder if this is relevant.

Capacitor Capacitance is reached by the size of the plates, that will be clear to everyone here, but the distance of the plates also has a strong influence on it I would not have thought now.

In tests the distance between the plates is increased and the voltage increases and vice versa the capacity. I had not thought of that.

I always wonder if it's because of the capacitors we get today which are much more compact and smaller than before, maybe the dielectric is so thin that the gaps between the plates are so small that the new capacitors do not produce the same effect as the old ones , The old capacitors certainly had much larger plates than the new ones at a greater distance to achieve the same capacity. I may be on the wrong track, but I think you can think about it.

I was able to get 4x 10μF capacitors from old production and withstand the 3.15kv and in relation to the other capacitors I have huge.

I want the transverter with max. Drive impedance and make the connection via small coupling capacitors to the diode plug. Perhaps one could tap the earth into the resonance system via a diode. I wanted to protect the diode connector with several suppressor diodes in series to short-circuit if more like 1200V are transmitted.

I always have to think about my high-voltage test where the ground connection could trigger the spark gap faster. Unfortunately, I could not measure any voltage or no devices that can stand it.

regards

Sven



    


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SvenAlthough in English, "engine" is technically correct, electric self propelling rotating devices are by convention, referred to as "motors"in general talk."Engines" are mechanical devices involving the use of a petro chemical fuel, and is a more archaic form than "motor"which now has been adopted for all energy machine that convert energy into mechanical motion.Please don't take offense, as it is such a small thing.Cheers Warren

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  On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 6:40 AM, 'S.friedrich' [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


Hello Warren, I have Unfortunately, just a DC Motor 1.3 kw performance, everything else are toys engines or Universal engines the not magnets have. I have now 4 of the 3,15kv capacitors ordered. I think if we free energy search then in the high voltage or in the electric field. it's here very still has become prepare all at the end time zenario before? greetings Sven
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Von: "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" 
Datum:22.04.2018 20:51 (GMT+01:00) 
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Betreff: Re: [EVGRAY] Capacitor and how to reach the capacity. 

   
Sven
The capacitor experimenting is very interesting indeed.You know, I ws making capacitors a while back, and found it ridiculously easy to make very good capacitors from cheap common materials.How about polyethylene sheet plastic and aluminium foil? How cheap can you get, along with spray adhesive, hot glue and some scraps of aluminium wire for tig welding. Oh! I forgot, empty toilet paper core tubes hahaha. They work great, even for 10,000 volts without flash over. They are not tiny little packages by any means, but you can make them any value you want to, just more surface area, and a bigger or smaller roll.I have news regarding my daisey chain bridge rectifiers and big dc motors.I have been running the 1.5 hp dc motor that is currently driving the 100 lb flywheel because I am too lazy to take it apart. It is also driving a little 40 volt fractional horsepower dc motor with a vee belt none of which is directly part of the experiment, except possibly as a load. I am running it using a variac and bridge rectifier at about 11.2 volts.Just inserting another bridge rectifier ac Now I am working these big motors way below their rated hlegs down between the two brush wires of the 1.5 hp 90 volt motor( running on 11.2 volts) yields 12.4 volts dc !Interesting! However, I noticed a slight jump in the line amperage required of half an amp using a little automotive 12 dc motor. When taking that connection to a big 1.5 horsepower dc gearhead motor with a 10:1 heavy gearbox, there was zero rise in amperage, as opposed to the little automotive motor.l am running these big motors way below their standard voltage.I have noted the voltage increase, and now the zero feedback to the source amperage.If you have any largish dc motors, give it a try, as I think you have everything in your test room.It is not fancy, or in anyway difficult to do. I have yet to flip the ac leads back and forth to see if it makes a difference in performance regarding the second motor, and system amperage draw.Cheers Warren

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  On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 1:58 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


I found something interesting and wonder if this is relevant.

Capacitor Capacitance is reached by the size of the plates, that will be clear to everyone here, but the distance of the plates also has a strong influence on it I would not have thought now.

In tests the distance between the plates is increased and the voltage increases and vice versa the capacity. I had not thought of that.

I always wonder if it's because of the capacitors we get today which are much more compact and smaller than before, maybe the dielectric is so thin that the gaps between the plates are so small that the new capacitors do not produce the same effect as the old ones , The old capacitors certainly had much larger plates than the new ones at a greater distance to achieve the same capacity. I may be on the wrong track, but I think you can think about it.

I was able to get 4x 10μF capacitors from old production and withstand the 3.15kv and in relation to the other capacitors I have huge.

I want the transverter with max. Drive impedance and make the connection via small coupling capacitors to the diode plug. Perhaps one could tap the earth into the resonance system via a diode. I wanted to protect the diode connector with several suppressor diodes in series to short-circuit if more like 1200V are transmitted.

I always have to think about my high-voltage test where the ground connection could trigger the spark gap faster. Unfortunately, I could not measure any voltage or no devices that can stand it.

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Sven



    


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NormanOn coming back from Bermuda in Solstice Moon, about 150 miles North East we encounter a horrific thunderstorm that lasted for at least 24 hours. There was not much wind, but the lightning was amazing. In addition to chain lightning, St Almos fire, and every other form of lightning in the catalog, there was ball lightning.This Gulf Stream event was very scary to be on deck with, as it was all around us so close that when lightning bolts struck the water nearby, one could see what looked like tree roots or swimming snakes of brilliant light on the water's surface crawling on top, yet too powerful to be absorbed into the saltwater. Perhaps they were less dense than water? It could be a issue with gravity too, as the ball lightning seemed to float in the air. The sounds were very frightening, like a major battle going on, on that endless expanse of ocean. It was non stop, continuous, night, and day.Nothing hit the ferrocement vessel, with grounded metal masts, six and a half stories in the air. It seemed there was a sixty degree cone of protection around the boat, but I was frightened anyway, and stayed down below in our Fariday cage interior, content to just look out the plexiglas hatches, and bronze portholes, at the fireworks. The hairs on my arms bristled straight out and tingled.I have heard such events are common in the Gulf stteamCheers Warren

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  On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:57 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 


 

 
 

From: Homemade Lightning Creative Experiments in Electricity, R.A. Ford
  
The electrical entities   pages 173 – 178
  
A LABORATORY ILLUSTRATION OF BALL LIGHTNING
 
In Dr. Elihu Thompson’s Address at the opening of the Palmer Physical Laboratory at Princeton University he made , with regard to ball lightning, the statement, “The difficulty here is that it is too accidental and rare for consistent study, and we have not as  yet any laboratory phenomenon which resemble it closely”. This suggested to me that a phenomenon which I witnessed some six or seven years ago might be worth recording.
 
With a copper wire a student accidentally short-circuited the terminals of an ordinary 110 volt circuit. I happened at the time to be a few meters from him and to looking toward the terminals. At the instant of the short circuit I saw an incandescent ball which appeared to roll slowly from the terminals across the laboratory table and then disappeared.  As I remember it, I should say that the ball may have appeared to be about three centimeters in diameter. I think no one else in the room saw anything more than a flash of light-much as if a fuse had blown. On the table where the ball had rolled we found a line of scorched spots, as if the ball had bounced along the table and had scorched the wood wherever it touched.  As I remember them, these scorched spots were rather close together, perhaps not more than one or two centimeters apart.  In the top of the table was a crack perhaps a millimeter or two wide, and at this crack the scorched line ended. In the drawer immediately under this crack we found a tiny copper ball, perhaps a millimeter in diameter. Apparently the ball that rolled across the table was incandescent copper vapor, although my memory of it is of a yellow-white than of a greenish light.
 
      The above suggested the possibility of a laboratory study of a phenomenon which may very possibly be similar to that of ball lightning, but have never attempted to repeat the experiment.
 
A.T. Jones
 
Purdue University
 
 
  
18-8  A laboratory illustration of ball lightning.  Science, B.S. 1910
  
EXTRACT OF A LETTER FROM MR. ARDEN, LECTURER, IN NATURAL PHILOSOPHY, DATED SEPTEMBER 25, 1772
 
      “About fourteen or fifteen years ago, in the presence of Wm. Constable, Esq. at his seat at Burton, in Holderness, I made the following experiments:
 
       “I placed a large coated jar that would hold three or four gallons, directly under the prime Conductor of a very good electrical machine. The prime Conductor was at least eight or ten inches above the top of the jar, and the communication was made by a brass wire, bent at one end over the prime Conductor, and the other end passed through small glass tube (contrived by Mr. Constable to prevent the electric matter from easily flying off) was suspended in the middle of the jar, and had a small piece of brass chain fastened to it, that rested on the bottom of the jar.
 
      “I then began to turn the wheel, and about 100 or 150 times, as low in the jar as I could for the coating, I perceived a ball of fire, much resembling a red hot iron bullet, and three quarters of an inch in diameter, turning round upon its axis, and ascending up the glass tube that contained the brass wire, which  was the Conductor to the inside of the jar.
 
      “I immediately asked Mr. Constable, if he saw the ball of fire? He said, certainly.  I said, ‘I will turn on’. He answered, ‘By all means’.  I kept turning the wheel, and the ball of fire continued turning on its axis, and ascending up the glass tube till it got quite upon the top of the prime Conductor.  There it turned upon its axis for some time, then gradually descended, turning upon its axis as it had done on its assent, and so continued till it was so much below the top of the coating that we could  no longer see it. But soon
 
18-9 The Arden and Constable experiment, De L’ Electricite’ Des Meteores, Vol. 1, 1787, Abbe Bertholon
 
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After this, a very great flash was seen; a large explosion was heard, and strong smell of Sulphur was present all over the room; a round aperture was cut through the side of the jar, as fine as if it were cut with a diamond, rather more than three quarters of an inch in diameter, and between two to three inches below the top of the coating, and the coating was torn off all round the aperture, about three to four inches in diameter. The jar was a pretty strong one, of crown glass.
 
 
 
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    “I then took another jar, so like the first, that when both were whole I could not perceive any difference between them.  I then attempted to charge this, in the same manner as the other, and we both observed it accurately. No ball of fire was seen, but presently the jar discharged itself with a great flash and explosion, and at about the same part as the first jar, but instead of an aperture which was made in the first jar, there was a circle about three quarters of an inch in diameter, as white as chalk, and the coating torn off round about it as before.  Upon touching the white part, it dropped out and appeared to be glass in fine powder.
 
    “We broke several other different sized jars that day, (which made Mr. Constable say we were in great luck) but without any thing remarkable.
 
     “The first experiment was made soon in the afternoon of a clear day, and the machine stood directly between us and a window, which was not above a yard from it.  I don’t hear that the ball of fire has been produced by art by anyone else, to this day, although it is produced by nature.
 
     “I had the pleasure of seeing Mr. Constable this day, and of reading the account of these experiments to him, and, to the best of his memory, he thought the whole was strictly true.
  
       “Mr. Constable thinks it would not be difficult to repeat the experiment, and to produce the ball of fire at any time, provided the jar is large, and not coated too near the top, and that the wire communicating the prime Conductor to the inside of the jar is made to pass through a small glass tube (which is certainly of great advantage of making experiments of this kind) and that the machine acts very strong. If not, it will be in vain to attempt it’.
  
R.A. Ford
 
               I can only conclude that Mr. Constable was a man of few words!
 
               Several key points are worth noting in Arden and Constable’s experiment:  the Leyden jar’s central wire has several points of lose contact including the chain links and sliding joint.  The jar is large and and is charged slowly, almost to the flash over point.  The open jar, the overhead window, and the fact that the visible fireball was formed early in the test, but not later, indicates that a film of moisture in the glass jar and the central glass tube is the most important requirements. In In the historical evolution of the Leyden jar, the early form included no lid.  Natural philosophers soon discovered that by blowing into the jar, the moisture would greatly increase the storable charge.
 
      Many theories have been advanced to account for the large amounts of energy and long lifetimes of these electric entities (usually 1 to 5 seconds).  Fireballs have been known to cause major damage to tile roofs and chimneys, bend heavy iron gates and door hinges, bring a barrel of water to its boiling point in a short time, and bore small holes through granite blocks.  Some of these points are described in Brand’s report of 1923.  An especially good book on the subject is Ball Lightning and Bead Lightning by James D. Barry (1980). None of the theories mentioned in these two sources require a major shift in fundamental physics concepts.
 
Theoretical implications
 
         I personally feel these explanations do not account for the enormous energy content in a small space.  The three artificial electric-entity productions featured here involve no large power requirement to initiate a formation.
 
Following are two unorthodox theories, seldom seen:
 
1.    In line with Gustave Le Bon’s ideas on the universal dissociation of matter, a fireball would be seen as a slow energy-conversion process, in which elemental matter (water molecules, for example) yields its intrinsic potential energy. When the quantity of moisture is reduced to a low level, the fireball becomes starved out of existence. Le Bon pointed out the large number of electrons bound in a single gram of water.  Should these electrons be freed to appear as charge, an enormous 96,000 coulombs of electricity would be produced.  One coulomb applied to each of two spheres 1 meter apart represents an electrostatic force of 2 billion pounds!  Normally, only tiny fraction of a coulomb is found in nature.
 
2.    The second view involves a return to our discussion of gravitation. In this theory, an energy conversion occurs that disturbs the “concealed or hidden” motions in space (hypothesized by Heinrich Hertz in 1899 to account for the storage of potential energy).
 
 
 
Also, odd gravity anomalies are associated with electric entities, specifically, heavy, fragile objects fall without being broken.  This action implies that the basic properties or constants od space itself have been altered.  Since the true nature of electrification is concealed a the molecular level, perhaps electrification produces disturbances in the incessant, hidden motions of space.  These disturbances  are manifested as heat, light and mass motion-one form of which is the appearance of ball lightning.
 
These two views, of course, are quite unsettling because they require a major paradigm shift in fundamental physics concepts and an enlargement of our scientific foundational principles.  Some physicist have admitted that the formation of ball lightning in metal enclosures, such as airplanes, raises the question of how such large energy densities in a small space are maintained (see Nature, volume 224, 1969, p, 895 , for example).  The metal enclosures ensure that fireballs are not supplied externally with electromagnetic energy, as some theoretical physicists have imagined.  We have, in ball lightning, a means by which energy is extracted from the nearby quiescent environment and manifests itself as heat, light and mass motion.  If this conclusion is justified, then it would be a natural case of negative entropy; that is , energy flowing “uphill”, not downhill, as is required by the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
 
 
 
One article in favor of this limitation is “The Second Law of Thermodynamics and the ‘Death’ of Energy, with Notes on the Thermodynamics of the Atmosphere,” by Charles P. Steinmetz from General Electric Review (July1912).
 
 
 
Expressing the second law of thermodynamics in the words: “With out expenditure of other form of energy heat flows only from higher to lower temperature,” the author shows that the logical sequence from this is the conclusion that eventually all energy transformation will stop, i.e., all motion will cease and the universe will be dead.  The conclusion is not a reasonable one and the author sets out to disprove the general applicability of the law.  Adopting as his line of reasoning the thermodynamics of gases, he shows how, attending the escape of molecules from the attraction of earth into the cosmic space, there is a heat energy flow from a temperature of 10 deg. C, to one of 60,000 deg. C.   Even within the earth’s atmosphere, and without considering what happens in cosmic space, he shows that there is a transference  of heat energy from lower to higher temperatures, and leads us to the conclusion that this law of thermodynamics is not of universal application, but applies only within the limited range of thermodynamic engines, from which it has been derived.
 
 
 
      In addition to Dr. Steinmetz, physicists James Clerk Maxwell, Thomas Preston, and Lucien Poincare held a similar view of the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
 
      A thought-provoking implication presented itself when I reflected on Arden and Constable’s simple experiment, performed during the latter part of the eighteenth century. With their homemade frictional generator and Leyden jar, they succeeded in producing a phenomenon that today’s government research centers have failed to duplicate using the best high-powered generators and large financial investments.
 
     Extrapolating from this paradox, it now appears that it is possible to produce quite anomalous results by employing a large number of principles through which nature operates.  The experimental lab should duplicate natural environmental conditions; sterility and uniformity are often barriers to the discovery of new laws.
 
       The application of this philosophical approach could result in a great simplification of our technology, making it more reliable with less waste and pollution as by-products.  These possibilities require a greater resiliency and willingness to think in different modes.  Fortunately, the spirt of inquiry and creativity is innate in each new generation of children.
 
R.A. Ford
 
 
 
 
 
At the “New Energy Conference”, 1995    Fusion Facts, Hal Fox sponsored, Radisson Hotel, Denver CO.  I had the opportunity to discuss, during breakfast, the above “Dissociation of matter” with Hal Puthoff and Kenneth Shoulders. My question was: “If you were able to “annihilate” a quantity of water yielding an enormous electron output, what would happen to the ‘protons”???  Hal Puthoff did not even think twice and said “They would “snap” back into the space background, just as I presented in ZPE doc, Nature. “Spontaneous formation of hydrogen in free space”!
 
 
 
Ball Lightning was a big area of research by Ken Shoulders (RIP) and was a centerpiece of his Charged Cluster Research.
 
http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue61/chargeclusters.html
 
 
 
http://www.padrak.com/ine/NEN_5_2_8.html
 
 
 
http://padrak.com/ine/FB97_1.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 4/23/2018 5:40 AM, 'S.friedrich' [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
  Hello Warren, I have Unfortunately, just a DC Motor 1.3 kw performance, everything else are toys engines or Universal engines the not magnets have. I have now 4 of the 3,15kv capacitors ordered. I think if we free energy search then in the high voltage or in the electric field. it's here very still has become prepare all at the end time zenario before? greetings Sven 
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Sven
 The capacitor experimenting is very interesting indeed. You know, I ws making capacitors a while back, and found it ridiculously easy to make very good capacitors from cheap common materials. How about polyethylene sheet plastic and aluminium foil? How cheap can you get, along with spray adhesive, hot glue and some scraps of aluminium wire for tig welding. Oh! I forgot, empty toilet paper core tubes hahaha. They work great, even for 10,000 volts without flash over. They are not tiny little packages by any means, but you can make them any value you want to, just more surface area, and a bigger or smaller roll. I have news regarding my daisey chain bridge rectifiers and big dc motors. I have been running the 1.5 hp dc motor that is currently driving the 100 lb flywheel because I am too lazy to take it apart. It is also driving a little 40 volt fractional horsepower dc motor with a vee belt none of which is directly part of the experiment, except possibly as a load. I am running it using a variac and bridge rectifier at about 11.2 volts. Just inserting another bridge rectifier ac  Now I am working these big motors way below their rated hlegs down between the two brush wires of the 1.5 hp 90 volt motor( running on 11.2 volts) yields 12.4 volts dc ! Interesting! However, I noticed a slight jump in the line amperage required of half an amp using a little automotive 12 dc motor. When taking that connection to a big 1.5 horsepower dc gearhead motor with a 10:1 heavy gearbox, there was zero rise in amperage, as opposed to the little automotive motor.l am running these big motors way below their standard voltage. I have noted the voltage increase, and now the zero feedback to the source amperage. If you have any largish dc motors, give it a try, as I think you have everything in your test room. It is not fancy, or in anyway difficult to do.  I have yet to flip the ac leads back and forth to see if it makes a difference in performance regarding the second motor, and system amperage draw. Cheers Warren
 
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  On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 1:58 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
I found something interesting and wonder if this is relevant.
 
 Capacitor Capacitance is reached by the size of the plates, that will be clear to everyone here, but the distance of the plates also has a strong influence on it I would not have thought now.
 
 In tests the distance between the plates is increased and the voltage increases and vice versa the capacity. I had not thought of that.
 
 I always wonder if it's because of the capacitors we get today which are much more compact and smaller than before, maybe the dielectric is so thin that the gaps between the plates are so small that the new capacitors do not produce the same effect as the old ones , The old capacitors certainly had much larger plates than the new ones at a greater distance to achieve the same capacity. I may be on the wrong track, but I think you can think about it.
 
 I was able to get 4x 10μF capacitors from old production and withstand the 3.15kv and in relation to the other capacitors I have huge.
 
 I want the transverter with max. Drive impedance and make the connection via small coupling capacitors to the diode plug. Perhaps one could tap the earth into the resonance system via a diode. I wanted to protect the diode connector with several suppressor diodes in series to short-circuit if more like 1200V are transmitted.
 
 I always have to think about my high-voltage test where the ground connection could trigger the spark gap faster. Unfortunately, I could not measure any voltage or no devices that can stand it.
 
 regards
 
 Sven
 

 
       
    
 
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Hi Warren, that was the translator.

"Universal electric motor" if that's what you mean.

"DC motor" is unique!?!

regards

Sven

Hello Warren, These treadmill brake motors are not that common with us. With us, the garbage is always brought to a disposal company, now and then someone drives around with a small vice and Dudel music and searches and asks for old metals.

At recycling center because I still find old microwave oven, unfortunately, always other transformers are installed.

Siemens DC motors are also cheap on ebay, sometimes for 60 euros, but they can also be driven to 170 volts.

regards

Sven

Hello, another one. laughing.

Hector, Norman, Douglas and All, I hope everything is ok with you.

We all already read about the Genesis project.

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/sgenesis.htm

This project is based on the phenomenon of the electric field, perhaps static charge is wrong but you may think of it more. Actually, only a condenser of 2 tubes. The inner tube is positively charged and the outer negative on which the bidirectional coil is applied. Current is induced in the winding by the electric field.

This tube condenser has a fairly large distance to the inner tube, according to the dimensions almost 10 millimeters.

Here ambient energy is sucked in only with the electric field.

The testatika is also based on electric fields.

regards

Sven

Hi SvenIf the experience I had with my home made Van de Graff generator is useful, it was apparent that when building up, and then discharging,  running on an ancient. 1/10 hp Bodine shunt wound DC motor never changed rpm no matter how the big sphere was played with.I have been told this is static electricity.I could measure half a metre sparks, looking every bit like miniature bolts of lightning.What I found exciting is the 3d printed high voltage motors able to run on this energy. Actually, these motors are super simpleIf they have even miniscule torque, I can' t imagine them not being able to drive the little belt of the Van de Graff.
My point is there is a possibility of conversion to mechanical motion for this field energyCheers Warren
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Hello, another one. laughing.

Hector, Norman, Douglas and All, I hope everything is ok with you.

We all already read about the Genesis project.

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/sgenesis.htm

This project is based on the phenomenon of the electric field, perhaps static charge is wrong but you may think of it more. Actually, only a condenser of 2 tubes. The inner tube is positively charged and the outer negative on which the bidirectional coil is applied. Current is induced in the winding by the electric field.

This tube condenser has a fairly large distance to the inner tube, according to the dimensions almost 10 millimeters.

Here ambient energy is sucked in only with the electric field.

The testatika is also based on electric fields.

regards

Sven
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Hello Warren,

I think in the electric field, free energy works best, it acts like a vacuum cleaner. I think even if you can capture the energy and then discharged in a transformer, you have normal energy as we know it.

I have now wired the 3 phase transformer to highest impedance and am now at 1200V RMS and 1500V peak.

I will install very small coupling capacitors or connect them in series for smaller capacities and the transmission side with 2x 440V suppressor diodes in series, short circuit so that the voltage can not go above 1000V to protect the diode plug.

If the diode plug capacitors are larger, the voltage is smaller or I hope to be able to further reduce the effects on the transverter (3-phase transformer).

I found here an interesting site for the Testatika and capacitive transformer, it is in German but you can translate yes.
The drawings are clearly but above all where a condenser, a light bulb sucks energy over the earth and it brings to light.

http://www.hcrs.at/TESTA.HTM http://www.hcrs.at/TESTA.HTM


regards

Sven

Warren & Sven!  Regarding capacitors (condenser) (Leyden Jars) I had 
opportunity to talk to Ken Shoulders (RIP) at New Energy Conference, 
Denver back in 1995. I asked him what kind of power supply he used to 
charge his discharge caps to do the charged cluster experiments. He said 
he charged the caps with an electrostatic machine since what you are 
doing is potentialize the plates of the cap with HVDC to displace the 
electrons in the dielectric.  The reason that Leyden Jars carry such a 
huge amount of power is in the thick (1/4 inch) crown glass (optic clear 
glass) that has a huge electron displacement.  The modern capacitors 
have very thin film dielectrics and the old technology has been lost.  
Most people (Most on here) do not know how a condenser (capacitor) 
really works.  Take the three pail experiments  back in the old day!  
You have an outer pail (conductor) with a positive charge (+) a middle 
pail (dielectric, glass) and an inner pail (conductor) negative charge 
(-).   Charge the apparatus up with HV electrostatics. take it apart and 
you find no charge on the components.  put it back together and the 
original charge is present!  This proves that the HV potential is stored 
within the dielectric by electron displacement.  this is very old stuff 
done by Faraday way back when.   If you have a very thick dielectric 
like a good Leyden Jar there is a lot of power available here!  I would 
make condensers of soda lime glass (water clear with no metals) for my 
energy storage that you recover from Neutral Spike experiments. These 
could be flat plate stacks with thin foil conductors and 1/8th inch 
thick glass.  Do not worry about the HV aspects since this is the 
break-over limits of your caps.   Sure they will hold a 500KV charge 
(properly designed) but you are working at 1500VDC.


On 4/24/2018 12:40 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hello Warren,
>
> I think in the electric field, free energy works best, it acts like a 
> vacuum cleaner. I think even if you can capture the energy and then 
> discharged in a transformer, you have normal energy as we know it.
>
> I have now wired the 3 phase transformer to highest impedance and am 
> now at 1200V RMS and 1500V peak.
>
> I will install very small coupling capacitors or connect them in 
> series for smaller capacities and the transmission side with 2x 440V 
> suppressor diodes in series, short circuit so that the voltage can not 
> go above 1000V to protect the diode plug.
>
> If the diode plug capacitors are larger, the voltage is smaller or I 
> hope to be able to further reduce the effects on the transverter 
> (3-phase transformer).
>
> I found here an interesting site for the Testatika and capacitive 
> transformer, it is in German but you can translate yes.
> The drawings are clearly but above all where a condenser, a light bulb 
> sucks energy over the earth and it brings to light.
>
> http://www.hcrs.at/TESTA.HTM
>
>
> regards
>
> Sven
>
>

Thick champagne bottles were the best .but salt water caps are very good .
what's missing is a hivoltage large variable cap .
On Apr 25, 2018 10:14 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Warren & Sven!  Regarding capacitors (condenser) (Leyden Jars) I had
> opportunity to talk to Ken Shoulders (RIP) at New Energy Conference, Denver
> back in 1995. I asked him what kind of power supply he used to charge his
> discharge caps to do the charged cluster experiments. He said he charged
> the caps with an electrostatic machine since what you are doing is
> potentialize the plates of the cap with HVDC to displace the electrons in
> the dielectric.  The reason that Leyden Jars carry such a huge amount of
> power is in the thick (1/4 inch) crown glass (optic clear glass) that has a
> huge electron displacement.  The modern capacitors have very thin film
> dielectrics and the old technology has been lost.  Most people (Most on
> here) do not know how a condenser (capacitor) really works.  Take the three
> pail experiments  back in the old day!  You have an outer pail (conductor)
> with a positive charge (+) a middle pail (dielectric, glass) and an inner
> pail (conductor) negative charge (-).   Charge the apparatus up with HV
> electrostatics. take it apart and you find no charge on the components.
> put it back together and the original charge is present!  This proves that
> the HV potential is stored within the dielectric by electron displacement.
> this is very old stuff done by Faraday way back when.   If you have a very
> thick dielectric like a good Leyden Jar there is a lot of power available
> here!  I would make condensers of soda lime glass (water clear with no
> metals) for my energy storage that you recover from Neutral Spike
> experiments. These could be flat plate stacks with thin foil conductors and
> 1/8th inch thick glass.  Do not worry about the HV aspects since this is
> the break-over limits of your caps.   Sure they will hold a 500KV charge
> (properly designed) but you are working at 1500VDC.
>
> On 4/24/2018 12:40 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello Warren,
>
> I think in the electric field, free energy works best, it acts like a
> vacuum cleaner. I think even if you can capture the energy and then
> discharged in a transformer, you have normal energy as we know it.
>
> I have now wired the 3 phase transformer to highest impedance and am now
> at 1200V RMS and 1500V peak.
>
> I will install very small coupling capacitors or connect them in series
> for smaller capacities and the transmission side with 2x 440V suppressor
> diodes in series, short circuit so that the voltage can not go above 1000V
> to protect the diode plug.
>
> If the diode plug capacitors are larger, the voltage is smaller or I hope
> to be able to further reduce the effects on the transverter (3-phase
> transformer).
>
> I found here an interesting site for the Testatika and capacitive
> transformer, it is in German but you can translate yes.
> The drawings are clearly but above all where a condenser, a light bulb
> sucks energy over the earth and it brings to light.
>
> http://www.hcrs.at/TESTA.HTM
>
>
> regards
>
> Sven
>
>
> 
>