Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
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[1/56] Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-08T18:15:20+00:00
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Douglas Konzen
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Hi all Here is a drawing below in link I did representing a stator with36 poles,(from a 2pole rotor genset, or a 3ph AC motor, or a 3ph AC generator) And there is shown a fixed non-rotating otor, with winds around it (Pierre Cotnoir has 700 feet of 20 GA wire bifilar-paralleled) Pierre says that he sequentially pulses "six magnetic fields" around the stator, which induces power into that rotor, and so the rotor becomes the secondary and also the power-output of this generator ... So the question is, what would be the best "pattern" of the 36 numbered pole-windings around the stator to make the best power with least draw? Pierre says his stator field rotates at 600rpm and there are 6 poles and he gets 60hz from this...but not sure exactly what all that means as those 5 poles could be many different configurations....maybe the way he does it is not necessarily the best way to do it? - any ideas out there knowing the numbered stator poles the best way to do this?? Here is link....if it says page not found, click on PIERRE STATOR .JPG https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator ciao Kone.
[2/56] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-08T18:25:06+00:00
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Douglas Konzen
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correctuion "those 6 poles" (not 5 duh my eyes hurt)
[3/56] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-09T16:22:38+00:00
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Douglas Konzen
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Hi all Poere Cotnoir just wrote me, and told me how the stator winds are done in his looping sequentially pulsed non-rotating generator. The numbers he gives are in reference to the drawing I did a couple days ago, and this drawing is in the link below this description from Pierre: "hello, the magic numbers are 1-6,2-7,3-8,4-9,5-10,6-11,7-12,8-13,9-14,10-15,11-16, 12-17,13-18,14-19,15-20,16-21,17-22,18-23,19-24,20-25,21-26,22-27,23-28,24- 29,25-30,26-31,27-32,28-33,29-34,30-35,31-36,32-1,33-2,34-3,35-4,36-5 there are 6 poles; 3 north and 3 south alternately " note: this is the pattern (NSNSNS) that is sequentially pulsed around the stator to create the rotating field, which is induced into the fixed-rotor with the 700ft of 2X20GA winds around it.... 170W in and 1600W out and it LOOPS https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator
[4/56] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-09T19:41:27+00:00
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Douglas Konzen
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Hi all I added a colorful schematic to my drawing of 36 pole stator, using the magic numbers that Pierre gave me. Note how everything is logically placed and spaced (linear?) until poles 31 and 32, now the pattern of red black blue green yellow and red again gets seriously fucked up! It is like 7 groups of 5 vs 6 groups of 6 sort of...... note the sequentially pulsed rotating field is 6 pole NSNSNS here is the drawing with schematic in link: https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator
[5/56] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-10T13:54:39+00:00
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Joe
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Hi Doug ,
is the central core bifilar your drawing shows 4 leads coming out .
Thanks Joe.
[6/56] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-10T16:25:35+00:00
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Douglas Konzen
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Hi Joe yes it is bifilar and 700 feet of 20ga thick wire.....it looks in Pierres videos that he twists the two leads together at each end, so is two parallel wires to it.... Here are his videos again of his looping generator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYlU4UNz6EE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf-PL6j84vU&t=281s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_-xw_hL8nQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1abEsE4R3U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1abEsE4R3U
[7/56] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-10T17:05:00+00:00
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onielsen2000
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Hi Kone, In a normal motor the stator poles are fixed and the current is sinusoidal. Perhaps Pierre is rotating the field at full power and then sequentially shifting the poles instead of having the poles fixed and the current varying in a sine curve fashion like the normal way of doing it. Pierre's way is then a 6 phased 6-pole stator with the poles shifting places in small increments. I modified your drawing to the attached animated gif showing how I think the poles are switched. Regards Ole ---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote : Hi all I added a colorful schematic to my drawing of 36 pole stator, using the magic numbers that Pierre gave me. Note how everything is logically placed and spaced (linear?) until poles 31 and 32, now the pattern of red black blue green yellow and red again gets seriously fucked up! It is like 7 groups of 5 vs 6 groups of 6 sort of...... note the sequentially pulsed rotating field is 6 pole NSNSNS here is the drawing with schematic in link: https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator
[8/56] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-10T17:08:58+00:00
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onielsen2000
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Hi Kone, Perhaps the animation is better viewed in a browser if it comes through: Regards Ole ---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote : Hi Kone, In a normal motor the stator poles are fixed and the current is sinusoidal. Perhaps Pierre is rotating the field at full power and then sequentially shifting the poles instead of having the poles fixed and the current varying in a sine curve fashion like the normal way of doing it. Pierre's way is then a 6 phased 6-pole stator with the poles shifting places in small increments. I modified your drawing to the attached animated gif showing how I think the poles are switched. Regards Ole ---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote : Hi all I added a colorful schematic to my drawing of 36 pole stator, using the magic numbers that Pierre gave me. Note how everything is logically placed and spaced (linear?) until poles 31 and 32, now the pattern of red black blue green yellow and red again gets seriously fucked up! It is like 7 groups of 5 vs 6 groups of 6 sort of...... note the sequentially pulsed rotating field is 6 pole NSNSNS here is the drawing with schematic in link: https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator
[9/56] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-10T18:38:33+00:00
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Joe
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Ok Doug thanks Joe.
[10/56] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-11T07:50:02+00:00
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Douglas Konzen
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Hi Ole I cant see anything at all, not even a small black box with X in middle.... Maybe try again, with another email sent to EVGRAY@yahoogroups,com with the GIF in attachment,.... If you make yourself a folder inside files section of EVGRAY (or EVGRAYTOOC which is not so stuffed with files in its file section) Now you can upload there, and then others can download and view from there too......the attachments and email and photos uploads on EVGRAY" message board is very very unreliable there is no one to complain to about it, and have it fixed as well...the have no support anymore for yahoogroups but a long list of moderators complaining on a yahoo message site that no one at yahoo cares about or reads... ciaoKone
[11/56] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-11T11:39:59+00:00
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Douglas Konzen
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Hi Everyone Here is method from Gary Porter (Skipperbythesea) to pulse sequentially 360 degrees around the stators of Pierre Contoir's looping generator....the idea is to pulse sequentially a 6 pole NSNSNS rotating field, with the stators being wound as is shown, and are reference as well to rotation of field in drawing...the stators wound in pattern with the "magic numbers" that Pierre provided me with....here is link I just put up from my site :https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator
[12/56] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-11T11:44:03+00:00
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Douglas Konzen
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link again: https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generato https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generato
[13/56] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-11T11:49:26+00:00
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onielsen2000
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Hi Kone, I did get the attachment and the gif in the mail but not in the group. I give it another try: In a normal motor the stator poles are fixed and the current is sinusoidal. Perhaps Pierre is rotating the field at full power and then sequentially shifting the poles instead of having the poles fixed and the current varying in a sine curve fashion like the normal way of doing it. Pierre's way is then a 6 phased 6-pole stator with the poles shifting places in small increments. I modified your drawing to the attached animated gif showing how I think the poles are switched. And the animated gif pasted: Regards Ole ---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote : Hi Ole I cant see anything at all, not even a small black box with X in middle.... Maybe try again, with another email sent to EVGRAY@yahoogroups,com with the GIF in attachment,.... If you make yourself a folder inside files section of EVGRAY (or EVGRAYTOOC which is not so stuffed with files in its file section) Now you can upload there, and then others can download and view from there too......the attachments and email and photos uploads on EVGRAY" message board is very very unreliable there is no one to complain to about it, and have it fixed as well...the have no support anymore for yahoogroups but a long list of moderators complaining on a yahoo message site that no one at yahoo cares about or reads... ciaoKone
[14/56] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-11T11:57:06+00:00
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werner held
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THIS is kindof off topic but NOT HAS ANYONE EVER HEARD OF /LOOKED INTO ATOMIC HYDROGEN . JL NAUDIN built a atomic hydrogen set up that work EXCEPTIONALLY!!! It seems to me to be THE HOLY GRAIL OF FREE ENERGY.I HAVE BUILT A PARTIAL SET UP TO MAKE ATOMIC HYDROGEN,however I am kinda hesitant ! INPUT WOULD BE APPRECIATED??THANKS WMH
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[15/56] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-11T12:01:59+00:00
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onielsen2000
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Link missing an 'r' in the end: https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator Regards Ole ---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote : link again: https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generato https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generato
[16/56] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-11T16:49:33+00:00
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Douglas Konzen
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Hi Ole and all Here is the link again for the sequential rotating field generator schematics and diagrams and stuff: https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator
[17/56] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-11T16:50:29+00:00
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Douglas Konzen
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hi all It got chopped again! here is third try: https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator
[18/56] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-11T16:55:22+00:00
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Douglas Konzen
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Hi Werner Sorry don't know about Naudins atomic hydrogen thing, can you send link to it? Also when you get to doing the rotovertor again, look at the circuit diagram Hector just put up today! He has put this up 20 times the last six months, nobody has tried it yet!!!! It has the series transformer coming off run cap phase, but ALSO has a FWBR to rectify the AC to DC on another phase this FWBR is the new addition.... ciaoKone
[19/56] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-12T14:36:18+00:00
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Warren Keillor
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Ole, Doug and allWhat do we use for the stator? What make, and model type, of motor, or generator, did you use, or will be using? I found a local guy who collects stuff that people, around here, throw out.I am new here in the rural situation, a city boy, without my connections.So, for future projects involving the Sentsequencial pulse ( by which time everybody else will have moved on to plasma orgasimatrons, or something) I will be trying to replicate what you guys are doing now, with these sequenced coils. I need to get one first, yet don't know how to recognize what it is that I should be on the lookout for. I then have to explain to someone else what he , in turn, should haul home, for me.Furnaces and farm equipment abound in this area, along with abandoned factories in the towns.I only have a legasy of horse drawn farm implements, here, at my place, complete with horse collars, sleigh, and hay rake.It seems they were expecting this new fangled steam era would be a passing fad.I brought a lot of stuff from my storage horde in Toronto. It would be good to employ some of it to rationalize my insanity.Cheers Warren Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 8:02 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: Link missing an 'r' in the end: https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator Regards Ole ---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote : link again: https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generato #yiv3716169441 #yiv3716169441 -- #yiv3716169441ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv3716169441 #yiv3716169441ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv3716169441 #yiv3716169441ygrp-mkp #yiv3716169441hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv3716169441 #yiv3716169441ygrp-mkp #yiv3716169441ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv3716169441 #yiv3716169441ygrp-mkp .yiv3716169441ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv3716169441 #yiv3716169441ygrp-mkp .yiv3716169441ad p 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[20/56] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator
2018-03-12T15:39:29+00:00
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Douglas Konzen
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Hi Warren The exact motor Pierre uses as the stator frame is this one: 36A01W462 Which is from a Baldor 5HP 2850 RPM 50Hz 3Phase Motor, Volts 208/360/415, AMPs 13.2/7.6/6 Baldor motor PDF: https://www.baldorvip.com/servlet/productInfoPacket/M3613T-50.pdf https://www.baldorvip.com/servlet/productInfoPacket/M3613T-50.pdf I should think once we get all the information and figure it all out and understand the princilple and method very well,,,, (which is almost here now since Pierre is open sourced and wants other people to give it a try and help improve upon it) I should think most any AC motor or generator could be "configured" tp work....Pierre's has 36 slots to the stator... I want to try a cheap 2cycle gas motor 750W gen set as it has a 2 pole rotor in it and it could be wound like Pierre did (plus I already have one I tore apart and put bearing and plate where gas motor used to be)....seems like the stators are going to have to be re-wound no matter what you have as it does not seem very conventional wiring to the stator frame in what Pierre has. ciaoKone