Re: [EVGRAY] Fwd: Man on the Moon

Smokey!  In a very strange way, I acquired two audio tapes, 7 inch, recorded at 1 7/8 speed, of the entire Appolo 11 mission done by an amateur radio buff.  Jon Gentry. Dallas now has these original recordings.  Really i interesting to listen to the real live dialog!

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  On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 7:09, David G Dawson [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

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| Subject:  | Man on the Moon |
| Date:  | Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:15:33 +1000 |
| From:  | David G Dawson <[email protected]> |
| Reply-To:  | [email protected] |
| To:  | 
  |

 
 
Man on the Moon:
 
Hello xxxxx,
 
 
"Hahaha went to the moon. Yeah right."
 
Very obvious that you do not believe Man has gone to the Moon. If you do any current Video viewing you will see that there are currently a multitude of videos on all of the Missions as we celebrate 50 years from these events.
 
After 9 years in the Royal Australian Navy, Petty Officer after less than 4 years service and going for Chief at 8 years, and being screwed by the Public Service in delays (5 months) for a job as a Technical Officer at Navy Office Canberra which was listed as mine, I rang Canberra Deep Space Communications Complex (CDSCC).
 
Rang on a Tuesday, response was immediate, yes, please come down for an interview on Thursday. Did so and was offerred 3 positions, which one did you want? Chose RF as that was my background. When can you start, when do you want me? Monday, I was picked up by one of the 17 cars that were used to get to the Station as it was 37 kms out of Canberra. At that time xxxx was pregnant with xxxx and we rented a country cottage only 5 miles from Tidbinbilla but was a start. I could have walked over the hills, it was only two miles away in a direct line.
 
 
After being there only 5 months the RF Engineer chose me to go to Parkes as assitant RF (Movie - The Dish) for the Apollo 17 Moon landing - December 12 1972. ( I was one of the few operator RF types who was also a technical asset) Our job was to ensure their receiver Maser was working as designed as it was the only real NASA input to the Parkes CSIRO operation. The Az/El 64m Dish at Tidbinbilla (DSS43) was still in its final commissioning stage and why Parkes was still being used as the Video receiver station. The 34m Ha/Dec Dish at Tidbibilla (DSS42) was the same as Honeysuckle Creek where the first Moon walk was received from. Both TID and HSK had uplink capability using their 10 Kw transmitters.
 
So, on the day, I am sitting in the Parkes Control Room with the 64m Dish looking at the Moon and recording all of the Apollo 17 landing details. This went on daily for the length of the final Mission, about a week. There was a video directly in front of us with real time data displayed and yes, the Dish was pointing at the Moon.
 
 
There was no means by which any of this could be faked as there were too many stations involved at Goldstone -3/Madrid - 3/Australia - 4, as well as the multitude of world wide Radio Hams who were also in on this.. Most of the Movie practice scenes were done on Earth but have gotten into the video mix and what is concerning those more interested in a conspiracy than a truth.
 
My time at Tidbinbilla was spent as the prime RF team operator with up front exposure to any specific special projects that required top operator input as in the Pioneer Venus Multi Probe - 3 Probes into the surface. I covered all of the Pioneer 10 and II/Mars Viking- Lander/Voyager I & II/Helios I & II, also involved at times with the Space Shuttle at DSS 42 and any of the other manned operations.
 
 I was the receiver operator to first lock Helios II after its launch at DSS 42. I am also the one to discredit the Helios Missions in that there was a 16 second time delay purposefully installed in both Spacecraft to make it look as if the Sun is that ridiculous 93mill miles away.
 
I was there helping in pushing the buttons, there was no coverup.
 
Respectfully.
 
 
Smokey
 
 
Addendum:
 
Cooby Creek just North of Toowoomba was also involved and made a high quality video of the event but was trashed and never used:
 
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-20/legend-of-cooby-creek-tracking-station-nasa-confiscated-video/11326648
 
Also - Carnarvon in Western Australia had an important role to play for the Apollo II Mission in taking over from Honeysuckle Creek before Madrid in Spain came into view:
 
 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-14/the-vital-role-played-by-carnarvon-in-the-apollo-11-moon-landing/11261800
 
And the main Tx/Rx site at Honeysuckle Creek (HSK - DSS44) which was backed up by DSS 42 at Tidbinbilla:
 
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-19/nasa-apollo-11-moon-landing-footage-sent-via-honeysuckle-creek/11273724
 
So as a correction - Australia had 5 Tracking Stations involved with Apollo 11 and if you were spending 1c of every 10c of taxpayer's money at the time on sending a Man to the Moon, wouldn't you make sure you had every contingency in place no matter what?
 
At that time we also had in South Australia, Woomera (Missiles) and Ceduna (Telecommunications) available and were probably also on standby.
 
Trump is doing his best to retrieve all of the lost/stolen technology that is no longer available in the USA and that is why they are now talking of a Moon Mission using Females in 2023.
 
 
Smokey
 
 

 
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I remember being glued to our black and white TV screen, watching it all, live.
Ironically, I got to build a full scale replica of the first and second stage of the lunar lander, years later, for the film, "Fly Away Home"Where I got first hand experience with all the engineering details, and how they worked, in such a straight forward sensible manner, for a suspension system to crash save astronauts. It very much reminded me of my space frame sports car experiences with Lotus, and Chinook, formula Fords. My leg suspension actually worked on that movie prop, and could be separated from the living module, as it was all steel tube,( as opposed to titanium )Non the less, I could see if anything could work, this was a good shot at it.I had the complete plans and engineering drawings to work with.Cheers Warren
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  On Fri., 26 Jul. 2019 at 9:18 a.m., Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Smokey!  In a very strange way, I acquired two audio tapes, 7 inch, recorded at 1 7/8 speed, of the entire Appolo 11 mission done by an amateur radio buff.  Jon Gentry. Dallas now has these original recordings.  Really i interesting to listen to the real live dialog!


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  On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 7:09, David G Dawson [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

 -------- Forwarded Message -------- 
| Subject:  | Man on the Moon |
| Date:  | Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:15:33 +1000 |
| From:  | David G Dawson <[email protected]> |
| Reply-To:  | [email protected] |
| To:  | 
  |

 
 
Man on the Moon:
 
Hello xxxxx,
 
 
"Hahaha went to the moon. Yeah right."
 
Very obvious that you do not believe Man has gone to the Moon. If you do any current Video viewing you will see that there are currently a multitude of videos on all of the Missions as we celebrate 50 years from these events.
 
After 9 years in the Royal Australian Navy, Petty Officer after less than 4 years service and going for Chief at 8 years, and being screwed by the Public Service in delays (5 months) for a job as a Technical Officer at Navy Office Canberra which was listed as mine, I rang Canberra Deep Space Communications Complex (CDSCC).
 
Rang on a Tuesday, response was immediate, yes, please come down for an interview on Thursday. Did so and was offerred 3 positions, which one did you want? Chose RF as that was my background. When can you start, when do you want me? Monday, I was picked up by one of the 17 cars that were used to get to the Station as it was 37 kms out of Canberra. At that time xxxx was pregnant with xxxx and we rented a country cottage only 5 miles from Tidbinbilla but was a start. I could have walked over the hills, it was only two miles away in a direct line.
 
 
After being there only 5 months the RF Engineer chose me to go to Parkes as assitant RF (Movie - The Dish) for the Apollo 17 Moon landing - December 12 1972. ( I was one of the few operator RF types who was also a technical asset) Our job was to ensure their receiver Maser was working as designed as it was the only real NASA input to the Parkes CSIRO operation. The Az/El 64m Dish at Tidbinbilla (DSS43) was still in its final commissioning stage and why Parkes was still being used as the Video receiver station. The 34m Ha/Dec Dish at Tidbibilla (DSS42) was the same as Honeysuckle Creek where the first Moon walk was received from. Both TID and HSK had uplink capability using their 10 Kw transmitters.
 
So, on the day, I am sitting in the Parkes Control Room with the 64m Dish looking at the Moon and recording all of the Apollo 17 landing details. This went on daily for the length of the final Mission, about a week. There was a video directly in front of us with real time data displayed and yes, the Dish was pointing at the Moon.
 
 
There was no means by which any of this could be faked as there were too many stations involved at Goldstone -3/Madrid - 3/Australia - 4, as well as the multitude of world wide Radio Hams who were also in on this.. Most of the Movie practice scenes were done on Earth but have gotten into the video mix and what is concerning those more interested in a conspiracy than a truth.
 
My time at Tidbinbilla was spent as the prime RF team operator with up front exposure to any specific special projects that required top operator input as in the Pioneer Venus Multi Probe - 3 Probes into the surface. I covered all of the Pioneer 10 and II/Mars Viking- Lander/Voyager I & II/Helios I & II, also involved at times with the Space Shuttle at DSS 42 and any of the other manned operations.
 
 I was the receiver operator to first lock Helios II after its launch at DSS 42. I am also the one to discredit the Helios Missions in that there was a 16 second time delay purposefully installed in both Spacecraft to make it look as if the Sun is that ridiculous 93mill miles away.
 
I was there helping in pushing the buttons, there was no coverup.
 
Respectfully.
 
 
Smokey
 
 
Addendum:
 
Cooby Creek just North of Toowoomba was also involved and made a high quality video of the event but was trashed and never used:
 
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-20/legend-of-cooby-creek-tracking-station-nasa-confiscated-video/11326648
 
Also - Carnarvon in Western Australia had an important role to play for the Apollo II Mission in taking over from Honeysuckle Creek before Madrid in Spain came into view:
 
 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-14/the-vital-role-played-by-carnarvon-in-the-apollo-11-moon-landing/11261800
 
And the main Tx/Rx site at Honeysuckle Creek (HSK - DSS44) which was backed up by DSS 42 at Tidbinbilla:
 
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-19/nasa-apollo-11-moon-landing-footage-sent-via-honeysuckle-creek/11273724
 
So as a correction - Australia had 5 Tracking Stations involved with Apollo 11 and if you were spending 1c of every 10c of taxpayer's money at the time on sending a Man to the Moon, wouldn't you make sure you had every contingency in place no matter what?
 
At that time we also had in South Australia, Woomera (Missiles) and Ceduna (Telecommunications) available and were probably also on standby.
 
Trump is doing his best to retrieve all of the lost/stolen technology that is no longer available in the USA and that is why they are now talking of a Moon Mission using Females in 2023.
 
 
Smokey
 
 

 
     
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All this could of been put to bed if they had just left a bright strobe
flashing on the moon for everyone to see at night . instead of all this
distraction from real problems .

On Friday, July 26, 2019, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> I remember being glued to our black and white TV screen, watching it all,
> live.
> Ironically, I got to build a full scale replica of the first and second
> stage of the lunar lander, years later, for the film, "Fly Away Home"
> Where I got first hand experience with all the engineering details, and
> how they worked, in such a straight forward sensible manner, for a
> suspension system to crash save astronauts. It very much reminded me of my
> space frame sports car experiences with Lotus, and Chinook, formula Fords.
> My leg suspension actually worked on that movie prop, and could be
> separated from the living module, as it was all steel tube,( as opposed to
> titanium )
> Non the less, I could see if anything could work, this was a good shot at
> it.
> I had the complete plans and engineering drawings to work with.
> Cheers Warren
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> On Fri., 26 Jul. 2019 at 9:18 a.m., Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Smokey!  In a very strange way, I acquired two audio tapes, 7 inch,
> recorded at 1 7/8 speed, of the entire Appolo 11 mission done by an amateur
> radio buff.  Jon Gentry. Dallas now has these original recordings.  Really
> i interesting to listen to the real live dialog!
>
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> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 7:09, David G Dawson [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Man on the Moon
> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:15:33 +1000
> From: David G Dawson <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> To:
>
> *Man on the Moon:*
>
> Hello xxxxx,
>
> "Hahaha went to the moon. Yeah right."
>
> Very obvious that you do not believe Man has gone to the Moon. If you do
> any current Video viewing you will see that there are currently a multitude
> of videos on all of the Missions as we celebrate 50 years from these events.
>
> After 9 years in the Royal Australian Navy, Petty Officer after less than
> 4 years service and going for Chief at 8 years, and being screwed by the
> Public Service in delays (5 months) for a job as a Technical Officer at
> Navy Office Canberra which was listed as mine, I rang Canberra Deep Space
> Communications Complex (CDSCC).
>
> Rang on a Tuesday, response was immediate, yes, please come down for an
> interview on Thursday. Did so and was offerred 3 positions, which one did
> you want? Chose RF as that was my background. When can you start, when do
> you want me? Monday, I was picked up by one of the 17 cars that were used
> to get to the Station as it was 37 kms out of Canberra. At that time xxxx
> was pregnant with xxxx and we rented a country cottage only 5 miles from
> Tidbinbilla but was a start. I could have walked over the hills, it was
> only two miles away in a direct line.
>
> After being there only 5 months the RF Engineer chose me to go to Parkes
> as assitant RF (Movie - The Dish) for the Apollo 17 Moon landing - December
> 12 1972. ( I was one of the few operator RF types who was also a technical
> asset) Our job was to ensure their receiver Maser was working as designed
> as it was the only real NASA input to the Parkes CSIRO operation. The Az/El
> 64m Dish at Tidbinbilla (DSS43) was still in its final commissioning stage
> and why Parkes was still being used as the Video receiver station. The 34m
> Ha/Dec Dish at Tidbibilla (DSS42) was the same as Honeysuckle Creek where
> the first Moon walk was received from. Both TID and HSK had uplink
> capability using their 10 Kw transmitters.
>
> So, on the day, I am sitting in the Parkes Control Room with the 64m Dish
> looking at the Moon and recording all of the Apollo 17 landing details.
> This went on daily for the length of the final Mission, about a week. There
> was a video directly in front of us with real time data displayed and yes,
> the Dish was pointing at the Moon.
>
> There was no means by which any of this could be faked as there were too
> many stations involved at Goldstone -3/Madrid - 3/Australia - 4, as well as
> the multitude of world wide Radio Hams who were also in on this.. *Most
> of the Movie practice scenes were done on Earth but have gotten into the
> video mix and what is concerning those more interested in a conspiracy than
> a truth.*
>
> My time at Tidbinbilla was spent as the prime RF team operator with up
> front exposure to any specific special projects that required top operator
> input as in the Pioneer Venus Multi Probe - 3 Probes into the surface. I
> covered all of the Pioneer 10 and II/Mars Viking- Lander/Voyager I &
> II/Helios I & II, also involved at times with the Space Shuttle at DSS 42
> and any of the other manned operations.
>
> I was the receiver operator to first lock Helios II after its launch at
> DSS 42. I am also the one to discredit the Helios Missions in that there
> was a 16 second time delay purposefully installed in both Spacecraft to
> make it look as if the Sun is that ridiculous 93mill miles away.
>
> I was there helping in pushing the buttons, there was no coverup.
>
> Respectfully.
>
> Smokey
>
> *Addendum:*
>
> Cooby Creek just North of Toowoomba was also involved and made a high
> quality video of the event but was trashed and never used:
>
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-20/legend-of-cooby-
> creek-tracking-station-nasa-confiscated-video/11326648
>
> Also - Carnarvon in Western Australia had an important role to play for
> the Apollo II Mission in taking over from Honeysuckle Creek before Madrid
> in Spain came into view:
>
>  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-14/the-vital-role-
> played-by-carnarvon-in-the-apollo-11-moon-landing/11261800
>
> And the main Tx/Rx site at Honeysuckle Creek (HSK - DSS44) which was
> backed up by DSS 42 at Tidbinbilla:
>
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-19/nasa-apollo-11-
> moon-landing-footage-sent-via-honeysuckle-creek/11273724
>
> So as a correction - Australia had 5 Tracking Stations involved with
> Apollo 11 and if you were spending 1c of every 10c of taxpayer's money at
> the time on sending a Man to the Moon, wouldn't you make sure you had every
> contingency in place no matter what?
>
> At that time we also had in South Australia, Woomera (Missiles) and Ceduna
> (Telecommunications) available and were probably also on standby.
>
> Trump is doing his best to retrieve all of the lost/stolen technology that
> is no longer available in the USA and that is why they are now talking of a
> Moon Mission using Females in 2023.
>
> Smokey
>
>
> 
>

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	Man on the Moon
Date: 	Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:15:33 +1000
From: 	David G Dawson <[email protected]>
Reply-To: 	[email protected]
To: 	


*Man on the Moon:*

Hello xxxxx,

"Hahaha went to the moon. Yeah right."

Very obvious that you do not believe Man has gone to the Moon. If you do 
any current Video viewing you will see that there are currently a 
multitude of videos on all of the Missions as we celebrate 50 years from 
these events.

After 9 years in the Royal Australian Navy, Petty Officer after less 
than 4 years service and going for Chief at 8 years, and being screwed 
by the Public Service in delays (5 months) for a job as a Technical 
Officer at Navy Office Canberra which was listed as mine, I rang 
Canberra Deep Space Communications Complex (CDSCC).

Rang on a Tuesday, response was immediate, yes, please come down for an 
interview on Thursday. Did so and was offerred 3 positions, which one 
did you want? Chose RF as that was my background. When can you start, 
when do you want me? Monday, I was picked up by one of the 17 cars that 
were used to get to the Station as it was 37 kms out of Canberra. At 
that time xxxx was pregnant with xxxx and we rented a country cottage 
only 5 miles from Tidbinbilla but was a start. I could have walked over 
the hills, it was only two miles away in a direct line.

After being there only 5 months the RF Engineer chose me to go to Parkes 
as assitant RF (Movie - The Dish) for the Apollo 17 Moon landing - 
December 12 1972. ( I was one of the few operator RF types who was also 
a technical asset) Our job was to ensure their receiver Maser was 
working as designed as it was the only real NASA input to the Parkes 
CSIRO operation. The Az/El 64m Dish at Tidbinbilla (DSS43) was still in 
its final commissioning stage and why Parkes was still being used as the 
Video receiver station. The 34m Ha/Dec Dish at Tidbibilla (DSS42) was 
the same as Honeysuckle Creek where the first Moon walk was received 
from. Both TID and HSK had uplink capability using their 10 Kw transmitters.

So, on the day, I am sitting in the Parkes Control Room with the 64m 
Dish looking at the Moon and recording all of the Apollo 17 landing 
details. This went on daily for the length of the final Mission, about a 
week. There was a video directly in front of us with real time data 
displayed and yes, the Dish was pointing at the Moon.

There was no means by which any of this could be faked as there were too 
many stations involved at Goldstone -3/Madrid - 3/Australia - 4, as well 
as the multitude of world wide Radio Hams who were also in on this.. 
*Most of the Movie practice scenes were done on Earth but have gotten 
into the video mix and what is concerning those more interested in a 
conspiracy than a truth.*

My time at Tidbinbilla was spent as the prime RF team operator with up 
front exposure to any specific special projects that required top 
operator input as in the Pioneer Venus Multi Probe - 3 Probes into the 
surface. I covered all of the Pioneer 10 and II/Mars Viking- 
Lander/Voyager I & II/Helios I & II, also involved at times with the 
Space Shuttle at DSS 42 and any of the other manned operations.

I was the receiver operator to first lock Helios II after its launch at 
DSS 42. I am also the one to discredit the Helios Missions in that there 
was a 16 second time delay purposefully installed in both Spacecraft to 
make it look as if the Sun is that ridiculous 93mill miles away.

I was there helping in pushing the buttons, there was no coverup.

Respectfully.

Smokey

*Addendum:*

Cooby Creek just North of Toowoomba was also involved and made a high 
quality video of the event but was trashed and never used:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-20/legend-of-cooby-creek-tracking-station-nasa-confiscated-video/11326648

Also - Carnarvon in Western Australia had an important role to play for 
the Apollo II Mission in taking over from Honeysuckle Creek before 
Madrid in Spain came into view:

  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-14/the-vital-role-played-by-carnarvon-in-the-apollo-11-moon-landing/11261800

And the main Tx/Rx site at Honeysuckle Creek (HSK - DSS44) which was 
backed up by DSS 42 at Tidbinbilla:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-19/nasa-apollo-11-moon-landing-footage-sent-via-honeysuckle-creek/11273724

So as a correction - Australia had 5 Tracking Stations involved with 
Apollo 11 and if you were spending 1c of every 10c of taxpayer's money 
at the time on sending a Man to the Moon, wouldn't you make sure you had 
every contingency in place no matter what?

At that time we also had in South Australia, Woomera (Missiles) and 
Ceduna (Telecommunications) available and were probably also on standby.

Trump is doing his best to retrieve all of the lost/stolen technology 
that is no longer available in the USA and that is why they are now 
talking of a Moon Mission using Females in 2023.

Smokey