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[1/7] Reynolds numbers, Bernoulli, vortex induced negative ionization
2019-02-07T06:09:42-06:00
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Norman Wootan
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https://www.britannica.com/science/Reynolds-number https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli%27s_principle Negative ionization via vortex cooling Sorry Guys, Mr. Reynolds not involved here. Neither is Bernoulli. Induced negative ionization. Go back to the old days of studying the lifters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion-propelled_aircraft The above document does not discuss the vortex induced AG effect.
[2/7] Fwd: Reynolds numbers, Bernoulli, vortex induced negative ionization
2019-02-07T06:20:38-06:00
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Norman Wootan
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Bert, This discussion is worth your time to read since you built the famous lifters and studied them. -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: 44 2019 <> X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: To: [email protected] From: Norman Wootan <[email protected]> Subject: Reynolds numbers, Bernoulli, vortex induced negative ionization Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 06:09:42 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------2F538DFC92814B2A3C00D55A" Content-Language: en-US https://www.britannica.com/science/Reynolds-number https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli%27s_principle Negative ionization via vortex cooling Sorry Guys, Mr. Reynolds not involved here. Neither is Bernoulli. Induced negative ionization. Go back to the old days of studying the lifters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion-propelled_aircraft The above document does not discuss the vortex induced AG effect. How this critter flies. https://animalcorner.co.uk/animals/rhinoceros-beetle/
[3/7] Re: [EVGRAY] Reynolds numbers, Bernoulli, vortex induced negative ionization [1 Attachment]
2019-02-07T07:55:17-08:00
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Mick
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Norm, I brought up Reynolds in the spirit of lowering turbulence via negative ionization of the leading edge. OK I recall your drawing showing the beetle and it's elantra creating a vortex on each side from it's wing motion similar to a hummingbird but don't recall you bringing ionization into the expression. Must be along the lines of vortex induced ionization via the air somehow cooling (according to your treatise "What is Heat") from the expansion mode, but not sure the mechanics of this. And what about Lamour spin locking? On 2/7/2019 7:09 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > https://www.britannica.com/science/Reynolds-number > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli%27s_principle > > Negative ionization via vortex cooling > > > Sorry Guys, Mr. Reynolds not involved here. Neither is Bernoulli. > Induced negative ionization. > > Go back to the old days of studying the lifters. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion-propelled_aircraft > > The above document does not discuss the vortex induced AG effect. > >
[4/7] Re: [EVGRAY] Reynolds numbers, Bernoulli, vortex induced negative ionization [1 Attachment]
2019-02-08T07:05:26-06:00
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Norman Wootan
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Mick, it is a given phenomenon that all low pressures cause cooling and high pressures cause heating, that is how our atmosphere works. The cooling is negative ionization and the heating is positive ionization. The vortex as found in tornadoes does the very same charge separation as found in the very familiar *Ranque-Hilsch vortex tube *where due to the implosion vortex, charge separation occurs with cold more dense air goes to the core of the vortex and the lighter hot air goes to the perifia of the tube. Very powerful eddy vortex action forms around the main core vortex which strips electrons from matter giving the rapid cooling effect It is all in the What is Heat document. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex_tube On 2/7/2019 9:55 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: > > Norm, > > I brought up Reynolds in the spirit of lowering turbulence via > negative ionization of the leading edge. > > OK I recall your drawing showing the beetle and it's elantra creating > a vortex on each side from it's wing motion similar to a hummingbird > but don't recall you bringing ionization into the expression. Must be > along the lines of vortex induced ionization via the air somehow > cooling (according to your treatise "What is Heat") from the expansion > mode, but not sure the mechanics of this. And what about Lamour spin > locking? > > > > On 2/7/2019 7:09 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> https://www.britannica.com/science/Reynolds-number >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli%27s_principle >> >> Negative ionization via vortex cooling >> >> >> Sorry Guys, Mr. Reynolds not involved here. Neither is Bernoulli. >> Induced negative ionization. >> >> Go back to the old days of studying the lifters. >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion-propelled_aircraft >> >> The above document does not discuss the vortex induced AG effect. >> >
[5/7] Re: [EVGRAY] Reynolds numbers, Bernoulli, vortex induced negative ionization [1 Attachment]
2019-02-08T07:24:11-06:00
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Norman Wootan
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd2IyoBl2ag Thank You Jon Gentry for this reminder. Moray King, since plasmas have very large magnetic fields, it follows that there is allway a vortex spin. On 2/8/2019 7:05 AM, Norman Wootan wrote: > > Mick, it is a given phenomenon that all low pressures cause cooling > and high pressures cause heating, that is how our atmosphere works. > The cooling is negative ionization and the heating is positive > ionization. The vortex as found in tornadoes does the very same charge > separation as found in the very familiar *Ranque-Hilsch vortex tube > *where due to the implosion vortex, charge separation occurs with cold > more dense air goes to the core of the vortex and the lighter hot air > goes to the perifia of the tube. Very powerful eddy vortex action > forms around the main core vortex which strips electrons from matter > giving the rapid cooling effect It is all in the What is Heat document. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex_tube > > On 2/7/2019 9:55 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> Norm, >> >> I brought up Reynolds in the spirit of lowering turbulence via >> negative ionization of the leading edge. >> >> OK I recall your drawing showing the beetle and it's elantra creating >> a vortex on each side from it's wing motion similar to a hummingbird >> but don't recall you bringing ionization into the expression. Must >> be along the lines of vortex induced ionization via the air somehow >> cooling (according to your treatise "What is Heat") from the >> expansion mode, but not sure the mechanics of this. And what about >> Lamour spin locking? >> >> >> >> On 2/7/2019 7:09 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: >>> >>> https://www.britannica.com/science/Reynolds-number >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli%27s_principle >>> >>> Negative ionization via vortex cooling >>> >>> >>> Sorry Guys, Mr. Reynolds not involved here. Neither is Bernoulli. >>> Induced negative ionization. >>> >>> Go back to the old days of studying the lifters. >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion-propelled_aircraft >>> >>> The above document does not discuss the vortex induced AG effect. >>> >>
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2019-02-08T07:37:55-08:00
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Mick
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Norm, Yes the vortex as a separator of charge is overlooked and reminds me of the Kelvin rainstorm. However there seems to be more to the AG story than simply the charge else a lifter design could lift more than balsa wood with a million volts of potential. My opinion is two things are required for the AG result to manifest and the negative/cold polarity charge is one. On 2/8/2019 8:05 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: > > > Mick, it is a given phenomenon that all low pressures cause cooling > and high pressures cause heating, that is how our atmosphere works. > The cooling is negative ionization and the heating is positive > ionization. The vortex as found in tornadoes does the very same charge > separation as found in the very familiar *Ranque-Hilsch vortex tube > *where due to the implosion vortex, charge separation occurs with cold > more dense air goes to the core of the vortex and the lighter hot air > goes to the perifia of the tube. Very powerful eddy vortex action > forms around the main core vortex which strips electrons from matter > giving the rapid cooling effect It is all in the What is Heat document. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex_tube > > On 2/7/2019 9:55 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> >> Norm, >> >> I brought up Reynolds in the spirit of lowering turbulence via >> negative ionization of the leading edge. >> >> OK I recall your drawing showing the beetle and it's elantra creating >> a vortex on each side from it's wing motion similar to a hummingbird >> but don't recall you bringing ionization into the expression. Must >> be along the lines of vortex induced ionization via the air somehow >> cooling (according to your treatise "What is Heat") from the >> expansion mode, but not sure the mechanics of this. And what about >> Lamour spin locking? >> >> >> >> On 2/7/2019 7:09 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: >>> >>> >>> https://www.britannica.com/science/Reynolds-number >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli%27s_principle >>> >>> Negative ionization via vortex cooling >>> >>> >>> Sorry Guys, Mr. Reynolds not involved here. Neither is Bernoulli. >>> Induced negative ionization. >>> >>> Go back to the old days of studying the lifters. >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion-propelled_aircraft >>> >>> The above document does not discuss the vortex induced AG effect. >>> >
[7/7] Re: [EVGRAY] Reynolds numbers, Bernoulli, vortex induced negative ionization [1 Attachment]
2019-02-08T10:51:50-06:00
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Norman Wootan
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex_tube See the history regarding gas separation. http://blog.hasslberger.com/2006/02/technology_turned_insideout_im.html Please see attached PDF for complete history of Victor. The original use of the Vortex technology was to separate gasses based on their molecular weight and was not the cooling phenomenon. That use purpose was why I incorporated the Implosion Technology into my Patent for the Hydrogen Reactor. The Implosion Technology worked perfect for separating Hydrogen from Carbon Dioxide based on molecular weight. Centripetal is totally opposite of the well known Centrifugal applications. On 2/8/2019 9:37 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: > > Norm, > > Yes the vortex as a separator of charge is overlooked and reminds me > of the Kelvin rainstorm. However there seems to be more to the AG > story than simply the charge else a lifter design could lift more than > balsa wood with a million volts of potential. My opinion is two > things are required for the AG result to manifest and the > negative/cold polarity charge is one. > Just how the IONIZATION counters the gravity force is an ongoing research effort. We know it has something to do with the cooling effects and negative ionization. Joel McClain found the effects dealing with the famous Neiper Ring. > On 2/8/2019 8:05 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> Mick, it is a given phenomenon that all low pressures cause cooling >> and high pressures cause heating, that is how our atmosphere works. >> The cooling is negative ionization and the heating is positive >> ionization. The vortex as found in tornadoes does the very same >> charge separation as found in the very familiar *Ranque-Hilsch vortex >> tube *where due to the implosion vortex, charge separation occurs >> with cold more dense air goes to the core of the vortex and the >> lighter hot air goes to the perifia of the tube. Very powerful >> eddy vortex action forms around the main core vortex which strips >> electrons from matter giving the rapid cooling effect It is all in >> the What is Heat document. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex_tube >> >> On 2/7/2019 9:55 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: >>> >>> Norm, >>> >>> I brought up Reynolds in the spirit of lowering turbulence via >>> negative ionization of the leading edge. >>> >>> OK I recall your drawing showing the beetle and it's elantra >>> creating a vortex on each side from it's wing motion similar to a >>> hummingbird but don't recall you bringing ionization into the >>> expression. Must be along the lines of vortex induced ionization >>> via the air somehow cooling (according to your treatise "What is >>> Heat") from the expansion mode, but not sure the mechanics of this. >>> And what about Lamour spin locking? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/7/2019 7:09 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: >>>> >>>> https://www.britannica.com/science/Reynolds-number >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli%27s_principle >>>> >>>> Negative ionization via vortex cooling >>>> >>>> >>>> Sorry Guys, Mr. Reynolds not involved here. Neither is Bernoulli. >>>> Induced negative ionization. >>>> >>>> Go back to the old days of studying the lifters. >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion-propelled_aircraft >>>> >>>> The above document does not discuss the vortex induced AG effect. >>>> >
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