Re: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Patent, Dotto

Norman,

          I am trying to comprehend and envision your build with the desired outcome.
Once I was a millwright for a Hudson Bay store, once finished i had a truck load of lexan  cuts.
I used them up over the years . I made some vacuum sealed boxes and had leads through for convenience.
Perhaps the same could be done and inject a low value of a phosphorous combination (aluminum, magnesium or what have you) in reference to
have a visual on the charging vortex's  shape and desire of results on input.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: February 9, 2019 11:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Patent, Dotto



Ole, take the time to watch this interesting presentation at the Royal Institute.  http://vega.org.uk/video/programme/66

On 2/9/2019 9:52 AM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


Hi Norman,

After reading about the Dotto ring it does look amazing. My belief is that the field given off by the ring is a powerful motional electric field (W.J. Hooper's research http://www.rexresearch.com/hooper/gibson.htm). This could explain the antigravity effect. According to Hooper the electrons move faster in hot metals than in cold metals. At constant current in cold conductors few electrons move at a high speed while in hot conductors many electrons move at low speed. As the magnetic field is determined by the current only there's no difference in its size because of the temperature of the conductor. But as the motional electric field is also determined by the speed of the charges this has great influence on the size of the motional electric field. As the Dotto ring has different temperatures along the ring this means decelerating the speed of the electrons which again means electromagnetic radiation as in antennas. Citing from the F. Gibson report (http://www.rexresearch.com/hooper/gibson.htm):

"These experiments show that the number of conduction electrons remains fairly constant at room temperatures and that the drift velocity increases linearly with the current. When resistance in the form of heat, carbon pile rheostat, or photo floods was added to the circuit, the number of conduction electrons decreased from that of room temperature and normal resistance while the drift velocity increased. At dry ice temperature and at low current, there were almost ten times as many conduction electrons moving, but moving very slowly, like cars on a crowded highway. As the amperage increased, the number of conduction electrons decreased rapidly, causing a greatly accelerated increase in the electron drift velocity. When AC current was put in the generator, it appeared that 3 to 4 times as many electrons were moving at low amperage as move under DC current at room temperature, but as with dry ice, when more electrons were moving, they were moving very slowly. By the time the amperage increased to 20 amps the number of electrons had decreased to almost the same number as with DC current at room temperature. From 20 to 30 amps the number of electrons remained fairly constant. The electron drift velocity increased rapidly at low amperages and continued to increase but at a decreasing rate at higher amperages.

These observations regarding electron drift velocity and number of conduction electrons would appear to be more consistent with current theory regarding gases, semiconductors, and semi-metals, than with the current theory for metals. If these findings are true, they would seem to indicate that the conductivity of a metal is related to the number of electrons in motion and their velocity, both of which change with temperature and resistance."

Looking at Alexey Chekurov's antigravity device this also has variable motional fields as well as a conventional permanent magnetic field which is actually rotating like in motors and generators. The motional part is done by mechanical rotating the rippled discs which gives much higher speeds than the normal conduction speed of electrons in metals.

In the Dotto paper is mentioned scalar waves which is an oxymoron as waves can't be scalars and vice versa. Waves have a time factor as well as a direction besides their size (scalar) which is varying too.

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...><mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :


https://www.remedyspot.com/content/topic/1430589-dotto-ring/

http://www.keelynet.com/biology/dotto.htm

What is the Thompson Effect?

One end of a copper rod is heated and the other is cooled. If the hot side is heated high enough, it will thermally increase the kinetic energy of the outer orbit electrons to a point where their kinetic energy (1/2 mv squared) will be greater than the work function and allow them to discharge into space. Due to the copper conductivity the electrons, instead of dissipating into the air, will shift in tremendous quantity toward the cool side in straight lines, following the heat propagation velocity. By reaction, excited electrons from the cool side will travel in the opposite direction at the speed of a particle (1/2 mv squared) toward the hot side encircling the copper rod by gyroscopic phenomenon and following the Fleming's rule. The product is very low voltage (few millivolts) as a resultant of the electrons traveling in circular motion. But, as in any electrical circuit, the EMF in the copper rod is governed by the Ohm's law (E/R=I), and will be in the range of several thousand amperes.

Peltier Effect

In a metal alloy bar (such as constantan, 60% Cu, 40% Ni) one end is heated and the other is maintained cold. When the hot end is heated enough, electrons of nickel and copper atoms become excited. The electrons of nickel force the electrons of coper to reverse orbital spinning (as described in Part 1). By centripetal force electrons from the cool side shift toward the hot side. The hot side becomes negative in respect to the cold positive side, exactly opposite to the Thompson effect. Of course, the Thompson and the Peltier effects are temporary; they last only until the proportion between the cool and the hot side reaches the electrons numerical balance. Let's now combine the Thompson and Peltier effects together in the thermocouple fashion. In the Thompson effect the electrons move from the hot side toward the cold side.

Ole, Hermes, I suggest a little pipe smoking time here and grasp the whole theory of operation.  Norm


On 2/8/2019 6:26 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771    Simple reading and reading comprehension are totally different animals.  Please read the Rex Research article to understand how the Dotto Ring worked with the DNA of the body. My understanding of the ring and counter flow of high amperage cyclic currents  within the copper gave a scarlar effect in that there was partial magnetic field cancellation and even possible reconnect phenomenon since there was an emission of photon energy when in operation.  The reason for my bringing up of the Dotto Ring was to alert you as to the possible reconnect phenomenon here in this device. I was very interested in the temperature differential causing the anti-gravity effect just as Walter Russel had mentioned. Here we get back into on of my pet theory of ionization causing the AG effect.

On 2/7/2019 5:32 PM, onielsen@...<mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:


Hi Hermes,

"What happens with Lenz Law in an inductor if a capacitor is added?"
Nothing will happen to Lenz's law by adding capacitors. The reactive part of the power can be shifted from inductive power to capacitive power or simply cancel the inductive power when at resonance. At resonance the inductive reactance is equal in size to the capacitive reactance but of opposite sign. This makes them cancel to leave only the resistive part of the circuit.

>From Wikipedia:
Lenz's law<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenz%27s_law> states that the direction of the current induced in a conductor by a changing magnetic field<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field> is such that the magnetic field created by the induced current opposes the initial changing magnetic field. This is similar to Newtons third law<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion#Newtons_3rd_Law> of motion in physics when talking about motion of bodies: "Law III: To every action there is always opposed an equal reaction: or the mutual actions of two bodies upon each other are always equal, and directed to contrary parts."

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <hermesatar@...><mailto:hermesatar@...> wrote :

"Wouldn't it be easier and more energy efficient to use 1000 turns for a winding and then send one or more amps of current through it?"

What happens with Lenz Law in an inductor if a capacitor is added? Best Wishes, Hermes

Den torsdag 7 februari 2019 15:28:28 CET, onielsen@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> skrev:




Wouldn't it be easier and more energy efficient to use 1000 turns for a winding and then send one or more amps of current through it? That way at least a thousand amps magnetic field is made.

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <wall_jakob@...><mailto:wall_jakob@...> wrote :

In canada its probably good enought just to stick the copperr bar tru the wall, -23 outsiide, +22 inside
= 55 Degree difference, here you go. Don't forget to wind a nice coil around the rod. ''Thousends of amps''
should be enough to induce 30 amps 115volt after transforming the voltage to 115Volt
Would be nice if it could be thru:
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On Sun, 2/3/19, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@...<mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Patent, Dotto
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Received: Sunday, February 3, 2019, 7:58
Norman
couldn't open the attachment link on my phone, but your
description of the ring experiment was cool, so to
speak.So,
you take a 3 foot length of solid copper bar stock 1/2"
thick, and roll it in a ring. Heat one end, and freeze the
other to get a potential difference between the
ends?You
say current? Lots of current? How does it manifest
itself?
A
CO2 fire extinguisher gets you dry ice any time you want
it.Butane,
propane, what ever, gets you heat, maybe concentrated
sunlight?Now
lets talk making a practical fun gadget here! You suggest a
lot of amps. How do you lead those suckers out of you toy,
into the big World so we can have fun with them.Can
it make the tires of my Tesla screech? A hot rodder's
super charger on command?Pull
you electric airplane out of a stall?What
do we have here?Cheers
Warren
Sent
from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 8:25
AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...>
[EVGRAY]<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:













Talking about Anti-Gravity, take a look at this
Patent.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771
I actually formed a Dotto ring out of 2 inch wide X
1/2 inch
thick X 36 inch long yielding a 12 inch  of pure
copper bar stock
into the familiar ring design of Dotto. By heating one
end of ring
with butane flame and cooling other end with liquid
CO2, measured
the millivolt differential of the ring ends and ,
using Ohms Law
calculated a flowing current of several thousands of
amps. You say
, Flowing with open circuit of ring ends,  the
current flows one
way on the surface of the copper and returns to the
other end via
the core conductivity.   Really strange.  The
bridge is made of
material which will cause oscillations in the current
flow of
which I never built.  At least I did the
experiment.



...

MickRight on!Here that Hector? Watch your ass, Mick looks interested.Cheers Warren
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  On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 at 8:32 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Hector,
 
Why don't you kick down the build specs in easy to understand instructions in order to get the serious power out of the thing it's capable of.  If people understood that kilowatts are possible not just a few hundred the many here who have RV's and had RV's may just upgrade their RV's and you would have nothing to bitch about.
 
Your the inventor so take the people the extra distance in order to power their homes instead.
 
Nice ass!
 
 On 2/9/2019 5:26 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Well over 5600 RVs had being looped and self sustaining all over the planet , not my fault if some cant make it ....or loopers just shut up upon noticing the reaction of other people and really don't try to insist on the evident , just have to be sure their lives does not get fucked beyond measure !  
 
 how many have told here RV is ou and had posted the evidence , some even posting schematics 
 and solutions , , only to be ignored totally at the first fancy distraction ! 
 
  
 here just look at this red hot ass~ 
 
 
 (H) 
 
 
 ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
 
  
Warren, that is quite a task, to take a device which was designed to adjust your DNA and convert it into a power source.  Just as elusive as My and Hectors quest to harness Neutral Spike Energy.   That will take quit some reverse engineering.
 
 On 2/8/2019 9:11 AM, Mick mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
 
    
Warren,
 
Thanks for the lucidity. As with patents there is always something more.  Why would the unit vibrate at the proper length?  It must be phase locking to some other RF vibration or earth flux field else all size rings would vibrate.
 
 On 2/8/2019 9:02 AM, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Norman
 Now let us try to put this in layman's terms.Simple ones.
 I start to get a glimmer of understanding, when the patent speaks of tuning the resistor metal length. Stainless steel is a crappy conductor, compared to copper. There might be worse conducting metals, but off hand, I am not sure. It is spoken of using resistance coils to heat the one end Well, off the bat, we know how to improve that problem, perhaps, if it wln't interfere with those cyclic whatevers. Lets use our cheap and cheery 12 volt induction furnace we got from China, to be used for the Tesla pan cake coil tests! Cooling? OKAY. HEY! Wait a minute, What does a refrigeration compressor do? My heat pump takes from A, and delivers to B. It is all about heat differential. Now, we know that heat pumps are over unity, saving perhaps two thirds the energy required to heat, using resistance elements. Hmmmm? Okay, so then we have a turnbuckle or screw adjustment made out of a crappy conducting metal joining the two open ends of the not quite continuous ring made of copper, until by getting just the right length, it starts to vibrate when one end is heated, and the other cooled. How about the pay off? We are trying to get energy out of this ring that is supposed to be there. How do we tap into the ring? Running the compressor makes one end hot, and the other end cold, one end the condenser, the other wrapped with an evaporator coil. Can we use our induction coil to start the rig on 12 volts dc, with battery, then drive the 12 volt compressor with the power drawn from the ring? Norman. Where would you draw the power from this oscillating ring? Now, the magical thing about all of this, is that it is all off the shelf now, and free of any stinking patents, for all of us to make and use. If it, indeed, works. This is a public forum, and it has all been publically disclosed, so lurkers can just suck eggs regarding getting some frigging monopoly on concepts here. The original patent has timed out, and is now also public....Just to be clear to all. Trouble is, can it in fact be done, and will it work? As always, it is the bench that proves, or disproves, whether something is practical or not. Someone once said  "build it, and they will come" Rude connotations aside, maybe they will, with fresh underwear. Cheers Warren  Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 at 7:27 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771    Simple reading and reading comprehension are totally different animals.  Please read the Rex Research article to understand how the Dotto Ring worked with the DNA of the body. My understanding of the ring and counter flow of high amperage cyclic currents  within the copper gave a scarlar effect in that there was partial magnetic field cancellation and even possible reconnect phenomenon since there was an emission of photon energy when in operation.  The reason for my bringing up of the Dotto Ring was to alert you as to the possible reconnect phenomenon here in this device. I was very interested in the temperature differential causing the anti-gravity effect just as Walter Russel had mentioned. Here we get back into on of my pet theory of ionization causing the AG effect.
 
 On 2/7/2019 5:32 PM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Hi Hermes,
 
 "What happens with Lenz Law in an inductor if a capacitor is added?"
 Nothing will happen to Lenz's law by adding capacitors. The reactive part of the power can be shifted from inductive power to capacitive power or simply cancel the inductive power when at resonance. At resonance the inductive reactance is equal in size to the capacitive reactance but of opposite sign. This makes them cancel to leave only the resistive part of the circuit.
 
 From Wikipedia:
 Lenz's law states that the direction of the current induced in a conductor by a changing magnetic field is such that the magnetic field created by the induced current opposes the initial changing magnetic field. This is similar to Newtons third law of motion in physics when talking about motion of bodies: "Law III: To every action there is always opposed an equal reaction: or the mutual actions of two bodies upon each other are always equal, and directed to contrary parts."
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected], <hermesatar@...> wrote :
 
   "Wouldn't it be easier and more energy efficient to use 1000 turns for a winding and then send one or more amps of current through it?" 
  What happens with Lenz Law in an inductor if a capacitor is added? Best Wishes, Hermes
  
      Den torsdag 7 februari 2019 15:28:28 CET, onielsen@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> skrev: 
  
          
Wouldn't it be easier and more energy efficient to use 1000 turns for a winding and then send one or more amps of current through it? That way at least a thousand amps magnetic field is made.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected], <wall_jakob@...> wrote :
 
 In canada its probably good enought just to stick the copperr bar tru the wall, -23 outsiide, +22 inside
 = 55 Degree difference, here you go. Don't forget to wind a nice coil around the rod. ''Thousends of amps''
 should be enough to induce 30 amps 115volt after transforming the voltage to 115Volt
 Would be nice if it could be thru: 
--------------------------------------------
 
  
 On Sun, 2/3/19, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Patent, Dotto
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
 Received: Sunday, February 3, 2019, 7:58
 Norman
 couldn't open the attachment link on my phone, but your
 description of the ring experiment was cool, so to
 speak.So,
 you take a 3 foot length of solid copper bar stock 1/2"
 thick, and roll it in a ring. Heat one end, and freeze the
 other to get a potential difference between the
 ends?You
 say current? Lots of current? How does it manifest
 itself?
 A
 CO2 fire extinguisher gets you dry ice any time you want
 it.Butane,
 propane, what ever, gets you heat, maybe concentrated
 sunlight?Now
 lets talk making a practical fun gadget here! You suggest a
 lot of amps. How do you lead those suckers out of you toy,
 into the big World so we can have fun with them.Can
 it make the tires of my Tesla screech? A hot rodder's
 super charger on command?Pull
 you electric airplane out of a stall?What
 do we have here?Cheers
 Warren
 Sent
 from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 8:25
 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
 [EVGRAY]<[email protected]>
 wrote: 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Talking about Anti-Gravity, take a look at this
 Patent. 
 https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771
 I actually formed a Dotto ring out of 2 inch wide X
 1/2 inch
 thick X 36 inch long yielding a 12 inch  of pure
 copper bar stock
 into the familiar ring design of Dotto. By heating one
 end of ring
 with butane flame and cooling other end with liquid
 CO2, measured
 the millivolt differential of the ring ends and ,
 using Ohms Law
 calculated a flowing current of several thousands of
 amps. You say
 , Flowing with open circuit of ring ends,  the
 current flows one
 way on the surface of the copper and returns to the
 other end via
 the coreconductivity.   Really strange.  The
 bridge is made of
 material which will cause oscillations in the current
 flow of
 which I never built.  At least I did the
 experiment.
 
 
 
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Well over 5600 RVs had being looped and self sustaining all over the planet , not my fault if some cant make it 
 

 The old BS meter sure pegged on that one.
 

 I have tried every experiment that had any information with it and no jam!
 Am I just stupid? or is there any working example with PROPER instructions out there????
 

 The RV was common knowledge in Norway or Sweden well before H brought it to our attention. 5600 people like Ash and myself have tried to make it work ... would be a more correct statement.
 

 Ron

Hi Ron
Rotovertor means more than typical 3ph AC induction notor conerted to single phase with the run cap phase to it...at leaxt in Hectors broad band definition...the motor could be instead permanent magnet 3ph ac motor, or single phase or flat disc muller thing or pancske washing machine motor then a prime mover  spins some sort of low lenz generator loopit wuth caps loop it with batteries loop it with battery swappung whatever....so if you think of "rotovertor" as a motor and generator hooked togetber that loops then not so hard to imagine 5000 in world with virtually them all beig  top secret systems too, either by government research,  very private parties or someone living in cave. If you get into alien agenda and what ufos run on then more than 5000....really all it takes is lenz free generstor and any decent motor can be looped not such a big deal eh...
Kone

RonI guess my RV work can be classed as a success. I did manage to measure a 1.614 times input, plus a free battery charge, on top of that, with my 3hp WEG RV.
Don't be so hard on Hector, though he is prone to hyperboleCheers Warren.
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  On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 at 11:43 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Well over 5600 RVs had being looped and self sustaining all over the planet , not my fault if some cant make it 


The old BS meter sure pegged on that one.
I have tried every experiment that had any information with it and no jam!Am I just stupid? or is there any working example with PROPER instructions out there????
The RV was common knowledge in Norway or Sweden well before H brought it to our attention. 5600 people like Ash and myself have tried to make it work ... would be a more correct statement.
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Well as told some here had looped it they tell you in the face and tell you its ou and you people deny it in the base you had failed to do it .....

so turning to other disclosures you fall for things that cannot be replicated in a hundred thousandth years ..

is that my fault ? 

nope  ! 

and a rotophase converter is not a rotoverter its easy to say the cat is male after you touch his balls , but Rotary conversion using hi impedance low loss modes was never disclosed by anyone else , yet the principles in MRA, Newman Motor , Bedini motor , all konemotors are the same including several other motors out there ..

Only German Iron cross DC motor was known  In Norway & Sweden WW2 but RV is pure AC and 
no one before if it was KNOWN demonstrated Over-unity or looped it , and do i do give A shit if you don't believe it , fact is humanity does not deserve the technology as is socially primitive and retrograde & in involution  state .

(H)

 

---In [email protected], <iron1of1@...> wrote :

 Well over 5600 RVs had being looped and self sustaining all over the planet , not my fault if some cant make it 
 

 The old BS meter sure pegged on that one.
 

 I have tried every experiment that had any information with it and no jam!
 Am I just stupid? or is there any working example with PROPER instructions out there????
 

 The RV was common knowledge in Norway or Sweden well before H brought it to our attention. 5600 people like Ash and myself have tried to make it work ... would be a more correct statement.
 

 Ron

Norman,

         Well...!!!    I am trying to understand what you are up to yourself here with the dotto work? . lol
Are you trying to strengthen some ones dna on a schedules support from afar?
 The anti gravity results are more thoughts that seem to be chatted on.
When I listened to Lazar and the 117 element (If I am correct with memory ) , he was saying the diffuse-rs were really gig coils
that moved for direction.  I had chatted with him on the discussion of designing some kind of flowing gravy for my heat pump.
Incorporating the flow battery concept.
We were to regroup later but never did. In his defense he had a contract to for-fill and I was stealing his time.
So maybe some time in the future perhaps ?  .
So ok .. What am I trying to build..?

Currently I have three projects that I am trying to get over the edge.  They all have some merits with in their make up.
1/ reactor combination hho cell - can run ic motor for 30-60 (low idle) min on 100%.
Currently needs a new controller and monitoring for complete cycle event.

2/ heat pump- have done and completed tests with chief engineer signing on tests results. cop 1.25

3/water structuring , using vortex's with mags  enhancing parts per million on implosion values and ec.
Have blood results before and after resulting in positive healing values for all participants.
Ismael has gotten 80% but really he can get 100% -  5, perhaps he can but does not want to say.

You yourself know whats possible.
All operate with in similar principles.
The water structuring unit is the one most ready for market and I have parties interested in taking it.
Just have to scale it down for the kitchen counter top . Then go for patent pending or what ever.
I had acceptance on a patent for the heat pump but could not follow through on the finances required, so I copyrighted it.
I have a lot of responsibilities from  day to day week to week and need to change hats often, so when I can do something
it has to be done under its own schedule or it may not happen at all kind of thing.
As far as the dope thing! LOl   It was a way to generate financing only , I smoked some joints when I was in my teens
now I am in the 60 s .  lol  The young friend has his newly acquired masters in genetics and I was going to go into a
commercial government operation with him but he is getting offers now for 350k per year so I told him to go.
Not to wait for me.

So, so far a lot of nothing   lol



________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: February 9, 2019 7:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Patent, Dotto



Bart, Man slow down.� Sounds like you have been smoking your crop. I would like to help you understand something, If I could figure out what you are tying to build?????

On 2/9/2019 1:51 PM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Norman,

��������� I am trying to comprehend and envision your build with the desired outcome.
Once I was a millwright for a Hudson Bay store, once finished i had a truck load of lexan� cuts.
I used them up over the years . I made some vacuum sealed boxes and had leads through for convenience.
Perhaps the same could be done and inject a low value of a phosphorous combination (aluminum, magnesium or what have you) in reference to
have a visual on the charging vortex's� shape and desire of results on input.

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: February 9, 2019 11:17 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Patent, Dotto
�
�

Ole, take the time to watch this interesting presentation at the Royal Institute.� http://vega.org.uk/video/programme/66

On 2/9/2019 9:52 AM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Hi Norman,

After reading about the Dotto ring it does look amazing. My belief is that the field given off by the ring is a powerful motional electric field (W.J. Hooper's research http://www.rexresearch.com/hooper/gibson.htm). This could explain the antigravity effect. According to Hooper the electrons move faster in hot metals than in cold metals. At constant current in cold conductors few electrons move at a high speed while in hot conductors many electrons move at low speed. As the magnetic field is determined by the current only there's no difference in its size because of the temperature of the conductor. But as the motional electric field is also determined by the speed of the charges this has great influence on the size of the motional electric field. As the Dotto ring has different temperatures along the ring this means decelerating the speed of the electrons which again means electromagnetic radiation as in antennas. Citing from the F. Gibson report (http://www.rexresearch.com/hooper/gibson.htm):

"These experiments show that the number of conduction electrons remains fairly constant at room temperatures and that the drift velocity increases linearly with the current. When resistance in the form of heat, carbon pile rheostat, or photo floods was added to the circuit, the number of conduction electrons decreased from that of room temperature and normal resistance while the drift velocity increased. At dry ice temperature and at low current, there were almost ten times as many conduction electrons moving, but moving very slowly, like cars on a crowded highway. As the amperage increased, the number of conduction electrons decreased rapidly, causing a greatly accelerated increase in the electron drift velocity. When AC current was put in the generator, it appeared that 3 to 4 times as many electrons were moving at low amperage as move under DC current at room temperature, but as with dry ice, when more electrons were moving, they were moving very slowly. By the time the amperage increased to 20 amps the number of electrons had decreased to almost the same number as with DC current at room temperature. From 20 to 30 amps the number of electrons remained fairly constant. The electron drift velocity increased rapidly at low amperages and continued to increase but at a decreasing rate at higher amperages.�

These observations regarding electron drift velocity and number of conduction electrons would appear to be more consistent with current theory regarding gases, semiconductors, and semi-metals, than with the current theory for metals. If these findings are true, they would seem to indicate that the conductivity of a metal is related to the number of electrons in motion and their velocity, both of which change with temperature and resistance."

Looking at Alexey Chekurov's antigravity device this also has variable motional fields as well as a conventional permanent magnetic field which is actually rotating like in motors and generators. The motional part is done by mechanical rotating the rippled discs which gives much higher speeds than the normal conduction speed of electrons in metals.

In the Dotto paper is mentioned scalar waves which is an oxymoron as waves can't be scalars and vice versa. Waves have a time factor as well as a direction besides their size (scalar) which is varying too.

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...><mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :


https://www.remedyspot.com/content/topic/1430589-dotto-ring/

http://www.keelynet.com/biology/dotto.htm

What is the Thompson Effect?

One end of a copper rod is heated and the other is cooled. If the hot side is heated high enough, it will thermally increase the kinetic energy of the outer orbit electrons to a point where their kinetic energy (1/2 mv squared) will be greater than the work function and allow them to discharge into space. Due to the copper conductivity the electrons, instead of dissipating into the air, will shift in tremendous quantity toward the cool side in straight lines, following the heat propagation velocity. By reaction, excited electrons from the cool side will travel in the opposite direction at the speed of a particle (1/2 mv squared) toward the hot side encircling the copper rod by gyroscopic phenomenon and following the Fleming's rule. The product is very low voltage (few millivolts) as a resultant of the electrons traveling in circular motion. But, as in any electrical circuit, the EMF in the copper rod is governed by the Ohm's law (E/R=I), and will be in the range of several thousand amperes.

Peltier Effect

In a metal alloy bar (such as constantan, 60% Cu, 40% Ni) one end is heated and the other is maintained cold. When the hot end is heated enough, electrons of nickel and copper atoms become excited. The electrons of nickel force the electrons of coper to reverse orbital spinning (as described in Part 1). By centripetal force electrons from the cool side shift toward the hot side. The hot side becomes negative in respect to the cold positive side, exactly opposite to the Thompson effect. Of course, the Thompson and the Peltier effects are temporary; they last only until the proportion between the cool and the hot side reaches the electrons numerical balance. Let's now combine the Thompson and Peltier effects together in the thermocouple fashion. In the Thompson effect the electrons move from the hot side toward the cold side.

Ole, Hermes, I suggest a little pipe smoking time here and grasp the whole theory of operation.� Norm


On 2/8/2019 6:26 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771��� Simple reading and reading comprehension are totally different animals.� Please read the Rex Research article to understand how the Dotto Ring worked with the DNA of the body. My understanding of the ring and counter flow of high amperage cyclic currents� within the copper gave a scarlar effect in that there was partial magnetic field cancellation and even possible reconnect phenomenon since there was an emission of photon energy when in operation.� The reason for my bringing up of the Dotto Ring was to alert you as to the possible reconnect phenomenon here in this device. I was very interested in the temperature differential causing the anti-gravity effect just as Walter Russel had mentioned. Here we get back into on of my pet theory of ionization causing the AG effect.

On 2/7/2019 5:32 PM, onielsen@...<mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Hi Hermes,

"What happens with Lenz Law in an inductor if a capacitor is added?"
Nothing will happen to Lenz's law by adding capacitors. The reactive part of the power can be shifted from inductive power to capacitive power or simply cancel the inductive power when at resonance. At resonance the inductive reactance is equal in size to the capacitive reactance but of opposite sign. This makes them cancel to leave only the resistive part of the circuit.

>From Wikipedia:
Lenz's law<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenz%27s_law> states that the direction of the current induced in a conductor by a changing magnetic field<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field> is such that the magnetic field created by the induced current opposes the initial changing magnetic field. This is similar to Newtons third law<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion#Newtons_3rd_Law> of motion in physics when talking about motion of bodies: "Law III: To every action there is always opposed an equal reaction: or the mutual actions of two bodies upon each other are always equal, and directed to contrary parts."

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <hermesatar@...><mailto:hermesatar@...> wrote :

"Wouldn't it be easier and more energy efficient to use 1000 turns for a winding and then send one or more amps of current through it?"

What happens with Lenz Law in an inductor if a capacitor is added? Best Wishes, Hermes

Den torsdag 7 februari 2019 15:28:28 CET, onielsen@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> skrev:


�

Wouldn't it be easier and more energy efficient to use 1000 turns for a winding and then send one or more amps of current through it? That way at least a thousand amps magnetic field is made.

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <wall_jakob@...><mailto:wall_jakob@...> wrote :

In canada its probably good enought just to stick the copperr bar tru the wall, -23 outsiide, +22 inside
= 55 Degree difference, here you go. Don't forget to wind a nice coil around the rod. ''Thousends of amps''
should be enough to induce 30 amps 115volt after transforming the voltage to 115Volt
Would be nice if it could be thru:
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On Sun, 2/3/19, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@...<mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Patent, Dotto
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Received: Sunday, February 3, 2019, 7:58
Norman
couldn't open the attachment link on my phone, but your
description of the ring experiment was cool, so to
speak.So,
you take a 3 foot length of solid copper bar stock 1/2"
thick, and roll it in a ring. Heat one end, and freeze the
other to get a potential difference between the
ends?You
say current? Lots of current? How does it manifest
itself?
A
CO2 fire extinguisher gets you dry ice any time you want
it.Butane,
propane, what ever, gets you heat, maybe concentrated
sunlight?Now
lets talk making a practical fun gadget here! You suggest a
lot of amps. How do you lead those suckers out of you toy,
into the big World so we can have fun with them.Can
it make the tires of my Tesla screech? A hot rodder's
super charger on command?Pull
you electric airplane out of a stall?What
do we have here?Cheers
Warren
Sent
from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 8:25
AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...>
[EVGRAY]<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
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Talking about Anti-Gravity, take a look at this
Patent.�
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771
I actually formed a Dotto ring out of 2 inch wide X
1/2 inch
thick X 36 inch long yielding a 12 inch� of pure
copper bar stock
into the familiar ring design of Dotto. By heating one
end of ring
with butane flame and cooling other end with liquid
CO2, measured
the millivolt differential of the ring ends and ,
using Ohms Law
calculated a flowing current of several thousands of
amps. You say
, Flowing with open circuit of ring ends,� the
current flows one
way on the surface of the copper and returns to the
other end via
the core conductivity.�� Really strange.� The
bridge is made of
material which will cause oscillations in the current
flow of
which I never built.� At least I did the
experiment.



...

Hector,

You make an important point about humans devolving. 

The elite PTB feel if they disclose publicly the inane stupidity that
can be easily disproved by logic and stable historical factual data but
are still able to con people to happily follow their lies then their
karma is clean via full disclosure. This even though they with malice of
forethought create the epsilon moron class. I agree that at least in the
USA the intentional dumbing down is working as per the plan in order to
create very centralized control model very similar to Brave New World. 

The big question is if people are happy to become stuck on stupid and
have their amigdlia switched to reptile brain mode instead of frontal
cortex mode, based on the fact that there is a powerful conspiracy
creating this downfall of mankind, do the humans deserve a break as
experts are manipulating them or should they be written off for not
being shrewd enough to figure it out?

On 2/10/2019 7:02 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Well as told some here had looped it they tell you in the face and
> tell you its ou and you people deny it in the base you had failed to
> do it .....
>
> so turning to other disclosures you fall for things that cannot be
> replicated in a hundred thousandth years ..
>
> is that my fault ?
>
> nope  !
>
> and a rotophase converter is not a rotoverter its easy to say the cat
> is male after you touch his balls , but Rotary conversion using hi
> impedance low loss modes was never disclosed by anyone else , yet the
> principles in MRA, Newman Motor , Bedini motor , all konemotors are
> the same including several other motors out there ..
>
> Only German Iron cross DC motor was known  In Norway & Sweden WW2 but
> RV is pure AC and
> no one before if it was KNOWN demonstrated Over-unity or looped it ,
> and do i do give A shit if you don't believe it , fact is humanity
> does not deserve the technology as is socially primitive and
> retrograde & in involution  state .
>
> (H)
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <iron1of1@...> wrote :
>
> Well over 5600 RVs had being looped and self sustaining all over the
> planet , not my fault if some cant make it 
>
> The old BS meter sure pegged on that one.
>
> I have tried every experiment that had any information with it and no jam!
> Am I just stupid? or is there any working example with PROPER
> instructions out there????
>
> The RV was common knowledge in Norway or Sweden well before H brought
> it to our attention. 5600 people like Ash and myself havetried to make
> it work ... would be a more correct statement.
>
> Ron
>

RonI have no idea what you did.I made up two identical 3hp
RV units. The capacitor tuning box is very crucial to it being simple to run, or not. Alligator clips and jumpers are just asking for a dud.Washing out the grease from the bearings changes the base draw from 400ma to 200ma, but, hey, whst's 200 ma, anyway? I now prefer to leave the grease and seals be, for quiet running and longevity.The damn thing works okay with the grease in. I have just been using the capacitor series circuit to a transformer., or direct from that circuit, to run the other RV motor as well as a Rene charger that if you bother, you can just keep swapping batteries out, running forever.I just hate batteries, as they are.Cheers WarrenSent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 at 10:02 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Well as told some here had looped it they tell you in the face and tell you its ou and you people deny it in the base you had failed to do it .....

so turning to other disclosures you fall for things that cannot be replicated in a hundred thousandth years ..

is that my fault ? 

nope  ! 

and a rotophase converter is not a rotoverter its easy to say the cat is male after you touch his balls , but Rotary conversion using hi impedance low loss modes was never disclosed by anyone else , yet the principles in MRA, Newman Motor , Bedini motor , all konemotors are the same including several other motors out there ..

Only German Iron cross DC motor was known  In Norway & Sweden WW2 but RV is pure AC and 
no one before if it was KNOWN demonstrated Over-unity or looped it , and do i do give A shit if you don't believe it , fact is humanity does not deserve the technology as is socially primitive and retrograde & in involution  state .

(H)




---In [email protected], <iron1of1@...> wrote :

Well over 5600 RVs had being looped and self sustaining all over the planet , not my fault if some cant make it 

The old BS meter sure pegged on that one.
I have tried every experiment that had any information with it and no jam!Am I just stupid? or is there any working example with PROPER instructions out there????
The RV was common knowledge in Norway or Sweden well before H brought it to our attention. 5600 people like Ash and myself have tried to make it work ... would be a more correct statement.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_converter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_phase_converter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_converter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_phase_converter#Single-phase_supply

I remember as a teen age, going to a machine shop and seeing a phase 
converter, idler motor and they even started it up with a pull rope on a 
sheave.  The 3 phase motor idler with condensers has been around since 
turn of the century.  I had a 20 HP unit in my lab to run my machine 
tools. Self starting too via a current relay that would drop out 
starting capacitance when up to speed.

On 2/10/2019 10:28 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Well over 5600 RVs had being looped and self sustaining all over the 
> planet , not my fault if some cant make it
>
>
> The old BS meter sure pegged on that one.
>
> I have tried every experiment that had any information with it and no jam!
> Am I just stupid? or is there any working example with PROPER 
> instructions out there????
>
> The RV was common knowledge in Norway or Sweden well before H brought 
> it to our attention. 5600 people like Ash and myself havetried to make 
> it work ... would be a more correct statement.
>
> Ron
>

See Comments.

On 2/10/2019 1:13 PM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norman,
>
> �������� Well...!!! �� I am trying to understand what you are up to 
> yourself here with the dotto work? . lol
> Are you trying to strengthen some ones dna on a schedules support from 
> afar?
> �The anti gravity results are more thoughts that seem to be chatted on.

The only reason that I constructed a small version of the Dotto Ring was 
to verify the generation of a DC current flow in the copper ring via 
application of heat and cold. If Ohms Law is to be believed then there 
is a very unusual DC counter current flow taking place obeying the 
Thompson, Seebeck and Peltier effects that I wrote about in my paper, 
What is Heat.�� It would take quite an investment of money and time to 
duplicate the original Dotto Ring.�� I'm sure the anti-gravity effect 
was the same that we saw in the Neiper Ring experiments which we documented.



> When I listened to Lazar and the 117 element (If I am correct with 
> memory ) , he was saying the diffuse-rs were really gig coils
> that moved for direction.� I had chatted with him on the discussion of 
> designing some kind of flowing gravy for my heat pump.
> Incorporating the flow battery concept.
> We were to regroup later but never did. In his defense he had a 
> contract to for-fill and I was stealing his time.
> So maybe some time in the future perhaps ?� .
> So ok .. What am I trying to build..?
>
> Currently I have three projects that I am trying to get over the 
> edge.� They all have some merits with in their make up.
> 1/ reactor combination hho cell - can run ic motor for 30-60 (low 
> idle) min on 100%.
> Currently needs a new controller and monitoring for complete cycle event.
>
> 2/ heat pump- have done and completed tests with chief engineer 
> signing on tests results. cop 1.25


https://www.sprsunheatpump.com/5P-High-Cop-Air-to-Water-Heat-Pump-Heating-and-Hot-Water-Heater-pd6267665.html 
This is an example of off the shelf unit using the Copland Scroll 
Compressor which give a great COP.



>
> 3/water structuring , using vortex's with mags� enhancing parts per 
> million on implosion values and ec.
> Have blood results before and after resulting in positive healing 
> values for all participants.
> Ismael has gotten 80% but really he can get 100% -� 5, perhaps he can 
> but does not want to say.


I have been using the old Dr. John Mileweski magnet water treatment 
since 2001 when I first met him in Albuquerque.



Dr. Johns wife planter being fed magnet water.� Real healthy.


>
> You yourself know whats possible.
> All operate with in similar principles.
> The water structuring unit is the one most ready for market and I have 
> parties interested in taking it.
> Just have to scale it down for the kitchen counter top . Then go for 
> patent pending or what ever.
> I had acceptance on a patent for the heat pump but could not follow 
> through on the finances required, so I copyrighted it.


Sonodiffusser Patent sold to finance my Research Farm.��� infused 60mg 
oxygen into water and it was persistant over sever weeks. Very healthy 
water.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
*United States Patent * 	*6,386,751*
*Wootan , � et al.* 	*May 14, 2002 *

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Diffuser/emulsifier

*Abstract*

A diffuser for incorporating one or more infusion materials into a host 
material. The diffuser includes a rotor 12 and stator 30 rotating 
relative to one another. The infusion materials are drawn through 
openings in the rotor and stator. During movement of the rotor, the 
openings cause cavitation of the host material in the channel 32 
resulting in diffusion of the infusion materials through the openings 
and into the host material. The opening patterns in the rotor and stator 
can be designed to operate at a single frequency or a multiple 
frequencies. The frequencies of operation may affect bonding between the 
infusion materials and the host material and may also be effective in 
breakdown of complex molecular structures.


> I have a lot of responsibilities from� day to day week to week and 
> need to change hats often, so when I can do something
> it has to be done under its own schedule or it may not happen at all 
> kind of thing.
> As far as the dope thing! LOl�� It was a way to generate financing 
> only , I smoked some joints when I was in my teens
> now I am in the 60 s .� lol� The young friend has his newly acquired 
> masters in genetics and I was going to go into a
> commercial government operation with him but he is getting offers now 
> for 350k per year so I told him to go.
> Not to wait for me.
>
> So, so far a lot of nothing�� lol
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of 
> Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* February 9, 2019 7:41 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] Patent, Dotto
>
> Bart, Man slow down.� Sounds like you have been smoking your crop. I 
> would like to help you understand something, If I could figure out 
> what you are tying to build?????
>
> On 2/9/2019 1:51 PM, bart woodard [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>> �
>> Norman,
>>
>> ��������� I am trying to comprehend and envision 
>> your build with the desired outcome.
>> Once I was a millwright for a Hudson Bay store, once finished i had a 
>> truck load of lexan� cuts.
>> I used them up over the years . I made some vacuum sealed boxes and 
>> had leads through for convenience.
>> Perhaps the same could be done and inject a low value of a 
>> phosphorous combination (aluminum, magnesium or what have you) in 
>> reference to
>> have a visual on the charging vortex's� shape and desire of results 
>> on input.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of 
>> Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] 
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* February 9, 2019 11:17 AM
>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] Patent, Dotto
>> �
>> �
>>
>> Ole, take the time to watch this interesting presentation at the 
>> Royal Institute.� http://vega.org.uk/video/programme/66
>>
>> On 2/9/2019 9:52 AM, [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>> �
>>>
>>> Hi Norman,
>>>
>>> After reading about the Dotto ring it does look amazing. My belief 
>>> is that the field given off by the ring is a powerful motional 
>>> electric field (W.J. Hooper's research 
>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/hooper/gibson.htm). This could explain 
>>> the antigravity effect. According to Hooper the electrons move 
>>> faster in hot metals than in cold metals. At constant current in 
>>> cold conductors few electrons move at a high speed while in hot 
>>> conductors many electrons move at low speed. As the magnetic field 
>>> is determined by the current only there's no difference in its size 
>>> because of the temperature of the conductor. But as the motional 
>>> electric field is also determined by the speed of the charges this 
>>> has great influence on the size of the motional electric field. As 
>>> the Dotto ring has different temperatures along the ring this means 
>>> decelerating the speed of the electrons which again means 
>>> electromagnetic radiation as in antennas. Citing from the F. Gibson 
>>> report (http://www.rexresearch.com/hooper/gibson.htm):
>>>
>>> "These experiments show that the number of conduction electrons 
>>> remains fairly constant at room temperatures and that the drift 
>>> velocity increases linearly with the current. When resistance in the 
>>> form of heat, carbon pile rheostat, or photo floods was added to the 
>>> circuit, the number of conduction electrons decreased from that of 
>>> room temperature and normal resistance while the drift velocity 
>>> increased. At dry ice temperature and at low current, there were 
>>> almost ten times as many conduction electrons moving, but moving 
>>> very slowly, like cars on a crowded highway. As the amperage 
>>> increased, the number of conduction electrons decreased rapidly, 
>>> causing a greatly accelerated increase in the electron drift 
>>> velocity. When AC current was put in the generator, it appeared that 
>>> 3 to 4 times as many electrons were moving at low amperage as move 
>>> under DC current at room temperature, but as with dry ice, when more 
>>> electrons were moving, they were moving very slowly. By the time the 
>>> amperage increased to 20 amps the number of electrons had decreased 
>>> to almost the same number as with DC current at room temperature. 
>>> From 20 to 30 amps the number of electrons remained fairly constant. 
>>> The electron drift velocity increased rapidly at low amperages and 
>>> continued to increase but at a decreasing rate at higher amperages.�
>>>
>>> These observations regarding electron drift velocity and number of 
>>> conduction electrons would appear to be more consistent with current 
>>> theory regarding gases, semiconductors, and semi-metals, than with 
>>> the current theory for metals. If these findings are true, they 
>>> would seem to indicate that the conductivity of a metal is related 
>>> to the number of electrons in motion and their velocity, both of 
>>> which change with temperature and resistance."
>>>
>>> Looking at Alexey Chekurov's antigravity device this also has 
>>> variable motional fields as well as a conventional permanent 
>>> magnetic field which is actually rotating like in motors and 
>>> generators. The motional part is done by mechanical rotating the 
>>> rippled discs which gives much higher speeds than the normal 
>>> conduction speed of electrons in metals.
>>>
>>> In the Dotto paper is mentioned scalar waves which is an oxymoron as 
>>> waves can't be scalars and vice versa. Waves have a time factor as 
>>> well as a direction besides their size (scalar) which is varying too.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Ole
>>>
>>>
>>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, 
>>> <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>
>>> https://www.remedyspot.com/content/topic/1430589-dotto-ring/
>>>
>>> http://www.keelynet.com/biology/dotto.htm
>>>
>>> What is the Thompson Effect?
>>>
>>>
>>>         One end of a copper rod is heated and the other is cooled.
>>>         If the hot side is heated high enough, it will thermally
>>>         increase the kinetic energy of the outer orbit electrons to
>>>         a point where their kinetic energy (1/2 mv squared) will be
>>>         greater than the work function and allow them to discharge
>>>         into space. Due to the copper conductivity the electrons,
>>>         instead of dissipating into the air, will shift in
>>>         tremendous quantity toward the cool side in straight lines,
>>>         following the heat propagation velocity. By reaction,
>>>         excited electrons from the cool side will travel in the
>>>         opposite direction at the speed of a particle (1/2 mv
>>>         squared) toward the hot side encircling the copper rod by
>>>         gyroscopic phenomenon and following the Fleming's rule. The
>>>         product is very low voltage (few millivolts) as a resultant
>>>         of the electrons traveling in circular motion. But, as in
>>>         any electrical circuit, the EMF in the copper rod is
>>>         governed by the Ohm's law (E/R=I), and will be in the range
>>>         of several thousand amperes.
>>>
>>> Peltier Effect
>>>
>>>
>>>         In a metal alloy bar (such as constantan, 60% Cu, 40% Ni)
>>>         one end is heated and the other is maintained cold. When the
>>>         hot end is heated enough, electrons of nickel and copper
>>>         atoms become excited. The electrons of nickel force the
>>>         electrons of coper to reverse orbital spinning (as described
>>>         in Part 1). By centripetal force electrons from the cool
>>>         side shift toward the hot side. The hot side becomes
>>>         negative in respect to the cold positive side, exactly
>>>         opposite to the Thompson effect. Of course, the Thompson and
>>>         the Peltier effects are temporary; they last only until the
>>>         proportion between the cool and the hot side reaches the
>>>         electrons numerical balance. Let's now combine the Thompson
>>>         and Peltier effects together in the thermocouple fashion. In
>>>         the Thompson effect the electrons move from the hot side
>>>         toward the cold side.
>>>
>>> Ole, Hermes, I suggest a little pipe smoking time here and grasp the 
>>> whole theory of operation.� Norm
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/8/2019 6:26 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>>>     https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771��� Simple
>>>>     reading and reading comprehension are totally different
>>>>     animals.� Please read the Rex Research article to understand
>>>>     how the Dotto Ring worked with the DNA of the body. My
>>>>     understanding of the ring and counter flow of high amperage
>>>>     cyclic currents� within the copper gave a scarlar effect in
>>>>     that there was partial magnetic field cancellation and even
>>>>     possible reconnect phenomenon since there was an emission of
>>>>     photon energy when in operation.� The reason for my bringing
>>>>     up of the Dotto Ring was to alert you as to the possible
>>>>     reconnect phenomenon here in this device. I was very interested
>>>>     in the temperature differential causing the anti-gravity effect
>>>>     just as Walter Russel had mentioned. Here we get back into on
>>>>     of my pet theory of ionization causing the AG effect.
>>>>
>>>>     On 2/7/2019 5:32 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...>
>>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>     �
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hi Hermes,
>>>>>
>>>>>     "What happens with Lenz Law in an inductor if a capacitor is
>>>>>     added?"
>>>>>     Nothing will happen to Lenz's law by adding capacitors. The
>>>>>     reactive part of the power can be shifted from inductive power
>>>>>     to capacitive power or simply cancel the inductive power when
>>>>>     at resonance. At resonance the inductive reactance is equal in
>>>>>     size to the capacitive reactance but of opposite sign. This
>>>>>     makes them cancel to leave only the resistive part of the circuit.
>>>>>
>>>>>     >From Wikipedia:
>>>>>     Lenz's law <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenz%27s_law> states
>>>>>     that the direction of the current induced in a conductor by a
>>>>>     changing magnetic field
>>>>>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field> is such that
>>>>>     the magnetic field created by the induced current opposes the
>>>>>     initial changing magnetic field. This is similar to Newtons
>>>>>     third law
>>>>>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion#Newtons_3rd_Law>
>>>>>     of motion in physics when talking about motion of bodies: "Law
>>>>>     III: To every action there is always opposed an equal
>>>>>     reaction: or the mutual actions of two bodies upon each other
>>>>>     are always equal, and directed to contrary parts."
>>>>>
>>>>>     Regards
>>>>>     Ole
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>     <hermesatar@...> <mailto:hermesatar@...> wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>     "Wouldn't it be easier and more energy efficient to use 1000
>>>>>     turns for a winding and then send one or more amps of current
>>>>>     through it?"
>>>>>
>>>>>     What happens with Lenz Law in an inductor if a capacitor is
>>>>>     added? Best Wishes, Hermes
>>>>>
>>>>>     Den torsdag 7 februari 2019 15:28:28 CET, onielsen@...
>>>>>     [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> skrev:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     �
>>>>>
>>>>>     Wouldn't it be easier and more energy efficient to use 1000
>>>>>     turns for a winding and then send one or more amps of current
>>>>>     through it? That way at least a thousand amps magnetic field
>>>>>     is made.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Regards
>>>>>     Ole
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>     <wall_jakob@...> <mailto:wall_jakob@...> wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>     In canada its probably good enought just to stick the copperr
>>>>>     bar tru the wall, -23 outsiide, +22 inside
>>>>>     = 55 Degree difference, here you go. Don't forget to wind a
>>>>>     nice coil around the rod. ''Thousends of amps''
>>>>>     should be enough to induce 30 amps 115volt after transforming
>>>>>     the voltage to 115Volt
>>>>>     Would be nice if it could be thru:
>>>>>     --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>             On Sun, 2/3/19, Warren Keillor
>>>>>             schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>             <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>             <[email protected]
>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>             Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Patent, Dotto
>>>>>             To: "[email protected]
>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>"
>>>>>             <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>             Received: Sunday, February 3, 2019, 7:58
>>>>>             Norman
>>>>>             couldn't open the attachment link on my phone, but your
>>>>>             description of the ring experiment was cool, so to
>>>>>             speak.So,
>>>>>             you take a 3 foot length of solid copper bar stock 1/2"
>>>>>             thick, and roll it in a ring. Heat one end, and freeze the
>>>>>             other to get a potential difference between the
>>>>>             ends?You
>>>>>             say current? Lots of current? How does it manifest
>>>>>             itself?
>>>>>             A
>>>>>             CO2 fire extinguisher gets you dry ice any time you want
>>>>>             it.Butane,
>>>>>             propane, what ever, gets you heat, maybe concentrated
>>>>>             sunlight?Now
>>>>>             lets talk making a practical fun gadget here! You
>>>>>             suggest a
>>>>>             lot of amps. How do you lead those suckers out of you toy,
>>>>>             into the big World so we can have fun with them.Can
>>>>>             it make the tires of my Tesla screech? A hot rodder's
>>>>>             super charger on command?Pull
>>>>>             you electric airplane out of a stall?What
>>>>>             do we have here?Cheers
>>>>>             Warren
>>>>>             Sent
>>>>>             from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>             On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 8:25
>>>>>             AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>             [EVGRAY]<[email protected]
>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>             wrote:
>>>>>             �
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             Talking about Anti-Gravity, take a look at this
>>>>>             Patent.�
>>>>>             https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771
>>>>>             I actually formed a Dotto ring out of 2 inch wide X
>>>>>             1/2 inch
>>>>>             thick X 36 inch long yielding a 12 inch� of pure
>>>>>             copper bar stock
>>>>>             into the familiar ring design of Dotto. By heating one
>>>>>             end of ring
>>>>>             with butane flame and cooling other end with liquid
>>>>>             CO2, measured
>>>>>             the millivolt differential of the ring ends and ,
>>>>>             using Ohms Law
>>>>>             calculated a flowing current of several thousands of
>>>>>             amps. You say
>>>>>             , Flowing with open circuit of ring ends,� the
>>>>>             current flows one
>>>>>             way on the surface of the copper and returns to the
>>>>>             other end via
>>>>>             the core conductivity.�� Really strange.� The
>>>>>             bridge is made of
>>>>>             material which will cause oscillations in the current
>>>>>             flow of
>>>>>             which I never built.� At least I did the
>>>>>             experiment.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             ...
>>>>>
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