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Norman Wootan
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https://www.physics-and-radio-electronics.com/electronic-devices-and-circuits/semiconductor/intrinsic-semiconductor/electron-and-hole-current.html https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/semiconductors/chpt-2/electrons-and-holes/ https://www.quora.com/How-does-one-explain-electricity-at-relativistic-speeds This is absolutely a great dissertation on my main interest in NEGATIVE ELECTRICITY. See 33432 at attachments Remember my paper on WHAT is HEAT, negative Ions = cold, positive Ions = hot. See InTech at attachments https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/71099/relativity-and-current-in-wire https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineering/introduction-to-ee/intro-to-ee/v/ee-conventional-current https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineering/introduction-to-ee/intro-to-ee/v/current-direction https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/magnetic-forces-and-magnetic-fields/magnetic-field-current-carrying-wire/v/magnetism-6-magnetic-field-due-to-current Warren, You are an Old Navy Salt, Sailor, whom will appreciate the color coding of conductors by the Marine Industry, taken from the U.S. Navy days gone by. When I went through DeVry School in 1953, I learned that Black was common ground in a circuit and white was the hot wire. U.S. Navy. Remember when General motors used a POSITIVE ground on their cars and Ford had a NEGATIVE ground as did the U.S. Navy to prevent the electroylisis problem. We had to be careful when using battery cables trying to jump start a Chevy from a Ford battery, cause of opposite polarity. Gee. The salt used on the roads up North ate up the fenders of Chevys. Lol
[2/6] Re: Magnetic fields and stuff gets interesting when Einstein gets envolved. RELATIVITY
2019-02-05T09:44:44-06:00
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Norman Wootan
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Mick, let us not forget this guy that was lost in the history of magnets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrus_Peregrinus_de_Maricourt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_compass http://www.thefullwiki.org/Magnetic_compass Now we know how Warren gets from Canada to New Zealand. Lol =============================================================================== Message 4192 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 20:33 From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) Pereginus Motor Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Norm, I had a friend, who is a historian, check out old Peregrinus, and it turns out that he's the guy who first recognized magnetic "poles" as such, and labelled them. Later, he invented the graduated and calibrated compass! Wonder why history has all but forgotten him? I'll bring the info to the next meeting...btw, when is it? CUL Joel =============================================================================== On 2/4/2019 8:42 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: Must read!!! http://exvacuo.free.fr/div/Sciences/NewEnergy/Cranks/Johnson%20-%20The%20secret%20world%20of%20magnets.pdf On 2/4/2019 5:47 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: Back on new years day, Bert gave an excellent explanation of magnetic fields. Please review. On 1/1/2019 9:20 AM, Bert Pool wrote: 1) Faraday generator experiments show that the magnetic field coming out of a magnet pole does NOT rotate when the magnet is rotated. You can glue a Faraday disk to the magnet and rotate both and the disk generates a current. I.e., the lines of force surrounding the magnet are stationary, even if the magnet rotates! The magnet has to be there to align the flux lines and concentrate them, but the lines of flux are part and parcel of space and do not originate with the magnet. Think of the magnet as a necessary "catalyst" for the flux. To me, this shows that magnets do NOT produce a magnetic field, but instead they align and condense _magnetic flux that is already in that space_. 2) I visualize space as being filled with billions and billions of flux lines all coming from every possible direction and every possible north/south polarity. Think of space as filled with a mass of boiled spaghetti, representing a chaotic mixture of flux lines. Since these lines are completely random as to polarity, the sum values of all the flux in any one spot averages to zero. But, when you place a chunk of special metal (we call it a magnet) into that space, it bends and aligns these random flux lines all into the same direction and polarity. A magnet does not produce a magnetic field, it brings order and coherence to the mass of field lines that already exist in that space surrounding the magnet. Think of it as taking that mass of bent, twisted and random spaghetti and straightening it out into nice, neat straight aligned fields. 3) Why do certain metal combinations affect magnetic lines of flux, while others do not? I don't think anyone has a good answer to that. For example, Alnico magnets are made of aluminum and cobalt. Aluminum is non-magnetic, so why is aluminum required for an alnico magnet to work? 4) If space is filled with a random mass of magnetic flux lines that sum to zero, and are only evident to us as observers when a mass of appropriate metal alloy (a magnet) is present, then I wonder are there other kinds of flux filling space, somewhat like lines of magnetic flux, that are not apparent to us because they too sum to zero, but would appear if only a different kind of "magnet" were constructed which aligns those other non-magnetic fields, thus making them evident. For example, it could be that gravity fields cross through space from all directions and with random orientations and normally sum to zero. If I place you into space a few billion miles from anything else, will you experience "gravity"? No. But place a suitable piece of properly made alloy into that space, and it would align and concentrate those lines of gravitational flux so that we can percieve this new thing we might call a gravitational field. Fortunately, the alloy for gravitational flux already exists, and is called "matter." Some alloys work better at aligning and concentrating gravitational flux lines, just as different metal alloys differ in their ability to align and concentrate magnetic flux lines. Some kinds of metals work better as magnets than others. Some kinds of mass work better as gravity concentrators than others (i.e., styrofoam versus lead.) 5) Magnetic field lines can be affected by electrical coils, which perform the same alignment and concentration of flux lines in space that permant magnets do. It might very well be possible that producing a gravitational analog is possible. Of course, the question becomes, what would the "coil" be made of, and what kind of energy would flow through it to align and concentrate gravity? And perhaps not only gravity. There could be other kinds of energy that fills space and sums to zero without the presence of a suitable nearby "magnet." Dark energy comes to mind as a possible example. Bert On 2/5/2019 9:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote: > > https://www.physics-and-radio-electronics.com/electronic-devices-and-circuits/semiconductor/intrinsic-semiconductor/electron-and-hole-current.html > > > https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/semiconductors/chpt-2/electrons-and-holes/ > > > https://www.quora.com/How-does-one-explain-electricity-at-relativistic-speeds > This is absolutely a great dissertation on my main interest in > NEGATIVE ELECTRICITY. > > See 33432 at attachments Remember my paper on WHAT is HEAT, > negative Ions = cold, positive Ions = hot. > > See InTech at attachments > > https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/71099/relativity-and-current-in-wire > > > https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineering/introduction-to-ee/intro-to-ee/v/ee-conventional-current > > > https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineering/introduction-to-ee/intro-to-ee/v/current-direction > > > https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/magnetic-forces-and-magnetic-fields/magnetic-field-current-carrying-wire/v/magnetism-6-magnetic-field-due-to-current > > > Warren, You are an Old Navy Salt, Sailor, whom will appreciate the > color coding of conductors by the Marine Industry, taken from the U.S. > Navy days gone by. When I went through DeVry School in 1953, I > learned that Black was common ground in a circuit and white > > was the hot wire. U.S. Navy. Remember when General motors used a > POSITIVE ground on their cars and Ford had a NEGATIVE ground as did > the U.S. Navy to prevent the electroylisis problem. We had to be > careful when using battery cables trying to jump start a Chevy from a > Ford battery, cause of opposite polarity. Gee. The salt used on the > roads up North ate up the fenders of Chevys. Lol > > >
[3/6] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Magnetic fields and stuff gets interesting when Einstein gets envolved. RELATIVITY
2019-02-06T07:50:31-06:00
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Norman Wootan
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https://sciencing.com/metals-make-good-conductors-electricity-8115694.html https://www.researchgate.net/post/Why_is_silver_more_conductive_than_other_metals https://www.bluesea.com/resources/108/Electrical_Conductivity_of_Materials http://eddy-current.com/conductivity-of-metals-sorted-by-resistivity/ Back when I built a 12" replica of the famous Dotto Ring, I had to put my copper ring in an annealing furnace and bring up the temp to the curie point of the copper to get the dead soft annealed conductivity specified. I have told all of you about getting the max performance out of your coils by going through the annealing step to relieve the work hardening due to bending stress. https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=/m/0lrn5&hl=en-US&kgs=8eb4e8960f9f4384&q=Phonon&shndl=0&source=sh/x/kp&entrypoint=sh/x/kp Something very important here is the role of the Phonon in electron mobility within the atomic lattice. Bert, this sort of answers the question that Joel and I had as having to warm up the MRA Piezo crystal and Barium ferrite magnet before it displayed the O/U traits. Acoustic energy moves those electrons around. https://www.chemicool.com/definition/phonons.html https://www.yourdictionary.com/phonon On 2/5/2019 9:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: > > Mick, let us not forget this guy that was lost in the history of magnets. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrus_Peregrinus_de_Maricourt > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_compass > > http://www.thefullwiki.org/Magnetic_compass Now we know how Warren > gets from Canada to New Zealand. Lol > > =============================================================================== > > > Message 4192 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 20:33 > From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED -- > To : NORMAN WOOTAN > Subject: (R) Pereginus Motor > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Hi Norm, > I had a friend, who is a historian, check out old Peregrinus, and it > turns out that he's the guy who first recognized magnetic "poles" as > such, and labelled them. Later, he invented the graduated and > calibrated compass! Wonder why history has all but forgotten him? > I'll bring the info to the next meeting...btw, when is it? > CUL > Joel > =============================================================================== > > > On 2/4/2019 8:42 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: > > Must read!!! > > http://exvacuo.free.fr/div/Sciences/NewEnergy/Cranks/Johnson%20-%20The%20secret%20world%20of%20magnets.pdf > > On 2/4/2019 5:47 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: > > Back on new years day, Bert gave an excellent explanation of magnetic > fields. Please review. > > On 1/1/2019 9:20 AM, Bert Pool wrote: > > 1) Faraday generator experiments show that the magnetic field coming > out of a magnet pole does NOT rotate when the magnet is rotated. You > can glue a Faraday disk to the magnet and rotate both and the disk > generates a current. I.e., the lines of force surrounding the magnet > are stationary, even if the magnet rotates! The magnet has to be > there to align the flux lines and concentrate them, but the lines of > flux are part and parcel of space and do not originate with the > magnet. Think of the magnet as a necessary "catalyst" for the flux. > To me, this shows that magnets do NOT produce a magnetic field, but > instead they align and condense _magnetic flux that is already in that > space_. > > 2) I visualize space as being filled with billions and billions of > flux lines all coming from every possible direction and every possible > north/south polarity. Think of space as filled with a mass of boiled > spaghetti, representing a chaotic mixture of flux lines. Since these > lines are completely random as to polarity, the sum values of all the > flux in any one spot averages to zero. But, when you place a chunk of > special metal (we call it a magnet) into that space, it bends and > aligns these random flux lines all into the same direction and > polarity. A magnet does not produce a magnetic field, it brings order > and coherence to the mass of field lines that already exist in that > space surrounding the magnet. Think of it as taking that mass of > bent, twisted and random spaghetti and straightening it out into nice, > neat straight aligned fields. > > 3) Why do certain metal combinations affect magnetic lines of flux, > while others do not? I don't think anyone has a good answer to that. > For example, Alnico magnets are made of aluminum and cobalt. Aluminum > is non-magnetic, so why is aluminum required for an alnico magnet to > work? > > 4) If space is filled with a random mass of magnetic flux lines that > sum to zero, and are only evident to us as observers when a mass of > appropriate metal alloy (a magnet) is present, then I wonder are there > other kinds of flux filling space, somewhat like lines of magnetic > flux, that are not apparent to us because they too sum to zero, but > would appear if only a different kind of "magnet" were constructed > which aligns those other non-magnetic fields, thus making them > evident. For example, it could be that gravity fields cross through > space from all directions and with random orientations and normally > sum to zero. If I place you into space a few billion miles from > anything else, will you experience "gravity"? No. But place a > suitable piece of properly made alloy into that space, and it would > align and concentrate those lines of gravitational flux so that we can > percieve this new thing we might call a gravitational field. > Fortunately, the alloy for gravitational flux already exists, and is > called "matter." Some alloys work better at aligning and > concentrating gravitational flux lines, just as different metal alloys > differ in their ability to align and concentrate magnetic flux lines. > Some kinds of metals work better as magnets than others. Some kinds > of mass work better as gravity concentrators than others (i.e., > styrofoam versus lead.) > > 5) Magnetic field lines can be affected by electrical coils, which > perform the same alignment and concentration of flux lines in space > that permant magnets do. It might very well be possible that > producing a gravitational analog is possible. Of course, the question > becomes, what would the "coil" be made of, and what kind of energy > would flow through it to align and concentrate gravity? And perhaps > not only gravity. There could be other kinds of energy that fills > space and sums to zero without the presence of a suitable nearby > "magnet." Dark energy comes to mind as a possible example. > > Bert > On 2/5/2019 9:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote: >> >> https://www.physics-and-radio-electronics.com/electronic-devices-and-circuits/semiconductor/intrinsic-semiconductor/electron-and-hole-current.html >> >> >> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/semiconductors/chpt-2/electrons-and-holes/ >> >> >> https://www.quora.com/How-does-one-explain-electricity-at-relativistic-speeds >> This is absolutely a great dissertation on my main interest in >> NEGATIVE ELECTRICITY. >> >> See 33432 at attachments Remember my paper on WHAT is HEAT, >> negative Ions = cold, positive Ions = hot. >> >> See InTech at attachments >> >> https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/71099/relativity-and-current-in-wire >> >> >> https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineering/introduction-to-ee/intro-to-ee/v/ee-conventional-current >> >> >> https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineering/introduction-to-ee/intro-to-ee/v/current-direction >> >> >> https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/magnetic-forces-and-magnetic-fields/magnetic-field-current-carrying-wire/v/magnetism-6-magnetic-field-due-to-current >> >> >> Warren, You are an Old Navy Salt, Sailor, whom will appreciate the >> color coding of conductors by the Marine Industry, taken from the >> U.S. Navy days gone by. When I went through DeVry School in 1953, I >> learned that Black was common ground in a circuit and white >> >> was the hot wire. U.S. Navy. Remember when General motors used a >> POSITIVE ground on their cars and Ford had a NEGATIVE ground as did >> the U.S. Navy to prevent the electroylisis problem. We had to be >> careful when using battery cables trying to jump start a Chevy from a >> Ford battery, cause of opposite polarity. Gee. The salt used on the >> roads up North ate up the fenders of Chevys. Lol >> >> >> >
[4/6] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Magnetic fields and stuff gets interesting
2019-02-06T15:53:19+00:00
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Warren Keillor
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Hi NormanI have a large spool of pure silver multi strand 18 gauge teflon covered that I used to make the umbilical cable for deadmau5's video head debuted at Conchella, because it was the lightest, smallest conductor size I could get.It was surplus from the Canada Arm space program for the Shuttle.I have been hanging on to it, looking for the ultimate application of such a precious resource to over unity experiments.So far, copper has done the trick, and nothing more exotic has been needed. But...I am open to anti gravity, or other nifty projects, where we might hit the wall with ordinary copper technology. So far, copper is cheap and cheery. I am not needing to drive big amps through tiny wires for extended distances, like that stage performance guy, I designed, and built, the heads for.I was having nightmares with that head at Coachella, prio to going on stage.1 hour to go, before we were going on stage, it was still not working right, yet performed perfectly, for weeks on end, of testing.It was crazy making.After tearing it apart all night the night before, many times, I demanded to check their stage computer leads, as I was completely frustrated.The first lead connector I cut open was such a piece of crap I was jumping up and down with relief, hugging my assistant, as you all know, nothing is better than finding something really wrong, after such a hard search.These computer patch cords were made up in Georgia. Half the leads were just causally touching at the connectors having turned green and broken off at the solder joints.The wires were designed for crimps being copper, inside polyethylene rubbish, compared to the silver running to them. Every time they would disconnect under load, high voltage spikes would shoot through the TTL signal lines, and over voltage the chips controlling the high powered LEDs, of course, damaging them.Not only were the connections soldered, they had soldered them with plumber's acid core solder!Was this the work of some roadie shopping at some gas station at midnight? Who knows?After a mad soldering blitz the head was plugged in, plunked on the performer, stepped in front of 100,000 madly waving cheering fans, working perfectly.I stood there, in the darkened wing portion of the stage, thinking to myself"I am too old for this sort of shit"Beside me, was Danny Devito, cheering, and clapping, along with that sea of faces out there.Three days of torture because of "special custom made patch cords"Plumbing solder?So much for Canadian silver to plug into.Cheers Warren Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 8:50 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: https://sciencing.com/metals-make-good-conductors-electricity-8115694.html https://www.researchgate.net/post/Why_is_silver_more_conductive_than_other_metals https://www.bluesea.com/resources/108/Electrical_Conductivity_of_Materials http://eddy-current.com/conductivity-of-metals-sorted-by-resistivity/ Back when I built a 12" replica of the famous Dotto Ring, I had to put my copper ring in an annealing furnace and bring up the temp to the curie point of the copper to get the dead soft annealed conductivity specified. I have told all of you about getting the max performance out of your coils by going through the annealing step to relieve the work hardening due to bending stress. https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=/m/0lrn5&hl=en-US&kgs=8eb4e8960f9f4384&q=Phonon&shndl=0&source=sh/x/kp&entrypoint=sh/x/kp Something very important here is the role of the Phonon in electron mobility within the atomic lattice. Bert, this sort of answers the question that Joel and I had as having to warm up the MRA Piezo crystal and Barium ferrite magnet before it displayed the O/U traits. Acoustic energy moves those electrons around. https://www.chemicool.com/definition/phonons.html https://www.yourdictionary.com/phonon On 2/5/2019 9:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: Mick, let us not forget this guy that was lost in the history of magnets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrus_Peregrinus_de_Maricourt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_compass http://www.thefullwiki.org/Magnetic_compass Now we know how Warren gets from Canada to New Zealand. Lol =============================================================================== Message 4192 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 20:33 From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) Pereginus Motor Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Norm, I had a friend, who is a historian, check out old Peregrinus, and it turns out that he's the guy who first recognized magnetic "poles" as such, and labelled them. Later, he invented the graduated and calibrated compass! Wonder why history has all but forgotten him? I'll bring the info to the next meeting...btw, when is it? CUL Joel =============================================================================== On 2/4/2019 8:42 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: Must read!!! http://exvacuo.free.fr/div/Sciences/NewEnergy/Cranks/Johnson%20-%20The%20secret%20world%20of%20magnets.pdf On 2/4/2019 5:47 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: Back on new years day, Bert gave an excellent explanation of magnetic fields. Please review. On 1/1/2019 9:20 AM, Bert Pool wrote: 1) Faraday generator experiments show that the magnetic field coming out of a magnet pole does NOT rotate when the magnet is rotated. You can glue a Faraday disk to the magnet and rotate both and the disk generates a current. I.e., the lines of force surrounding the magnet are stationary, even if the magnet rotates! The magnet has to be there to align the flux lines and concentrate them, but the lines of flux are part and parcel of space and do not originate with the magnet. Think of the magnet as a necessary "catalyst" for the flux. To me, this shows that magnets do NOT produce a magnetic field, but instead they align and condense magnetic flux that is already in that space. 2) I visualize space as being filled with billions and billions of flux lines all coming from every possible direction and every possible north/south polarity. Think of space as filled with a mass of boiled spaghetti, representing a chaotic mixture of flux lines. Since these lines are completely random as to polarity, the sum values of all the flux in any one spot averages to zero. But, when you place a chunk of special metal (we call it a magnet) into that space, it bends and aligns these random flux lines all into the same direction and polarity. A magnet does not produce a magnetic field, it brings order and coherence to the mass of field lines that already exist in that space surrounding the magnet. Think of it as taking that mass of bent, twisted and random spaghetti and straightening it out into nice, neat straight aligned fields. 3) Why do certain metal combinations affect magnetic lines of flux, while others do not? I don't think anyone has a good answer to that. For example, Alnico magnets are made of aluminum and cobalt. Aluminum is non-magnetic, so why is aluminum required for an alnico magnet to work? 4) If space is filled with a random mass of magnetic flux lines that sum to zero, and are only evident to us as observers when a mass of appropriate metal alloy (a magnet) is present, then I wonder are there other kinds of flux filling space, somewhat like lines of magnetic flux, that are not apparent to us because they too sum to zero, but would appear if only a different kind of "magnet" were constructed which aligns those other non-magnetic fields, thus making them evident. For example, it could be that gravity fields cross through space from all directions and with random orientations and normally sum to zero. If I place you into space a few billion miles from anything else, will you experience "gravity"? No. But place a suitable piece of properly made alloy into that space, and it would align and concentrate those lines of gravitational flux so that we can percieve this new thing we might call a gravitational field. Fortunately, the alloy for gravitational flux already exists, and is called "matter." Some alloys work better at aligning and concentrating gravitational flux lines, just as different metal alloys differ in their ability to align and concentrate magnetic flux lines. Some kinds of metals work better as magnets than others. Some kinds of mass work better as gravity concentrators than others (i.e., styrofoam versus lead.) 5) Magnetic field lines can be affected by electrical coils, which perform the same alignment and concentration of flux lines in space that permant magnets do. It might very well be possible that producing a gravitational analog is possible. Of course, the question becomes, what would the "coil" be made of, and what kind of energy would flow through it to align and concentrate gravity? And perhaps not only gravity. There could be other kinds of energy that fills space and sums to zero without the presence of a suitable nearby "magnet." Dark energy comes to mind as a possible example. Bert On 2/5/2019 9:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote: https://www.physics-and-radio-electronics.com/electronic-devices-and-circuits/semiconductor/intrinsic-semiconductor/electron-and-hole-current.html https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/semiconductors/chpt-2/electrons-and-holes/ https://www.quora.com/How-does-one-explain-electricity-at-relativistic-speeds This is absolutely a great dissertation on my main interest in NEGATIVE ELECTRICITY. See 33432 at attachments Remember my paper on WHAT is HEAT, negative Ions = cold, positive Ions = hot. See InTech at attachments https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/71099/relativity-and-current-in-wire https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineering/introduction-to-ee/intro-to-ee/v/ee-conventional-current https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineering/introduction-to-ee/intro-to-ee/v/current-direction https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/magnetic-forces-and-magnetic-fields/magnetic-field-current-carrying-wire/v/magnetism-6-magnetic-field-due-to-current Warren, You are an Old Navy Salt, Sailor, whom will appreciate the color coding of conductors by the Marine Industry, taken from the U.S. Navy days gone by. When I went through DeVry School in 1953, I learned that Black was common ground in a circuit and white was the hot wire. U.S. Navy. Remember when General motors used a POSITIVE ground on their cars and Ford had a NEGATIVE ground as did the U.S. Navy to prevent the electroylisis problem. We had to be careful when using battery cables trying to jump start a Chevy from a Ford battery, cause of opposite polarity. Gee. The salt used on the roads up North ate up the fenders of Chevys. 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[5/6] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Magnetic fields and stuff gets interesting
2019-02-06T18:49:04+00:00
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bart woodard
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Warren While I was training in Burbank, Devito and others would eat their morning breaky down on the boulevard. I never spoke to him but he approached our group and spoke to a person in the party. He seemed really nice. 1994 ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> Sent: February 6, 2019 10:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Magnetic fields and stuff gets interesting Hi Norman I have a large spool of pure silver multi strand 18 gauge teflon covered that I used to make the umbilical cable for deadmau5's video head debuted at Conchella, because it was the lightest, smallest conductor size I could get. It was surplus from the Canada Arm space program for the Shuttle. I have been hanging on to it, looking for the ultimate application of such a precious resource to over unity experiments. So far, copper has done the trick, and nothing more exotic has been needed. But...I am open to anti gravity, or other nifty projects, where we might hit the wall with ordinary copper technology. So far, copper is cheap and cheery. I am not needing to drive big amps through tiny wires for extended distances, like that stage performance guy, I designed, and built, the heads for. I was having nightmares with that head at Coachella, prio to going on stage. 1 hour to go, before we were going on stage, it was still not working right, yet performed perfectly, for weeks on end, of testing. It was crazy making. After tearing it apart all night the night before, many times, I demanded to check their stage computer leads, as I was completely frustrated. The first lead connector I cut open was such a piece of crap I was jumping up and down with relief, hugging my assistant, as you all know, nothing is better than finding something really wrong, after such a hard search. These computer patch cords were made up in Georgia. Half the leads were just causally touching at the connectors having turned green and broken off at the solder joints. The wires were designed for crimps being copper, inside polyethylene rubbish, compared to the silver running to them. Every time they would disconnect under load, high voltage spikes would shoot through the TTL signal lines, and over voltage the chips controlling the high powered LEDs, of course, damaging them. Not only were the connections soldered, they had soldered them with plumber's acid core solder! Was this the work of some roadie shopping at some gas station at midnight? Who knows? After a mad soldering blitz the head was plugged in, plunked on the performer, stepped in front of 100,000 madly waving cheering fans, working perfectly. I stood there, in the darkened wing portion of the stage, thinking to myself"I am too old for this sort of shit" Beside me, was Danny Devito, cheering, and clapping, along with that sea of faces out there. Three days of torture because of "special custom made patch cords" Plumbing solder? So much for Canadian silver to plug into. Cheers Warren Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 8:50 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: https://sciencing.com/metals-make-good-conductors-electricity-8115694.html https://www.researchgate.net/post/Why_is_silver_more_conductive_than_other_metals https://www.bluesea.com/resources/108/Electrical_Conductivity_of_Materials http://eddy-current.com/conductivity-of-metals-sorted-by-resistivity/ Back when I built a 12" replica of the famous Dotto Ring, I had to put my copper ring in an annealing furnace and bring up the temp to the curie point of the copper to get the dead soft annealed conductivity specified. I have told all of you about getting the max performance out of your coils by going through the annealing step to relieve the work hardening due to bending stress. https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=/m/0lrn5&hl=en-US&kgs=8eb4e8960f9f4384&q=Phonon&shndl=0&source=sh/x/kp&entrypoint=sh/x/kp Something very important here is the role of the Phonon in electron mobility within the atomic lattice. Bert, this sort of answers the question that Joel and I had as having to warm up the MRA Piezo crystal and Barium ferrite magnet before it displayed the O/U traits. Acoustic energy moves those electrons around. https://www.chemicool.com/definition/phonons.html https://www.yourdictionary.com/phonon On 2/5/2019 9:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote: Mick, let us not forget this guy that was lost in the history of magnets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrus_Peregrinus_de_Maricourt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_compass http://www.thefullwiki.org/Magnetic_compass Now we know how Warren gets from Canada to New Zealand. Lol =============================================================================== Message 4192 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 20:33
[6/6] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Magnetic fields and stuff gets interesting
2019-02-06T20:49:01+00:00
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Warren Keillor
<[email protected]>
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BartDevito is a nice guy.We hit it off fine, being both short guys.He was a big fan of deadmau5's dance music, and hosted Joel at his beach place in Burbank, while he was in town. Joel got him a pass to Coachella to watch the show from back stage with the costume tech support team fromToronto Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 1:49 PM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: Warren While I was training in Burbank, Devito and others would eat their morning breaky down on the boulevard.I never spoke to him but he approached our group and spoke to a person in the party. He seemed really nice.1994 From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> Sent: February 6, 2019 10:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Magnetic fields and stuff gets interesting Hi Norman I have a large spool of pure silver multi strand 18 gauge teflon covered that I used to make the umbilical cable for deadmau5's video head debuted at Conchella, because it was the lightest, smallest conductor size I could get.It was surplus from the Canada Arm space program for the Shuttle.I have been hanging on to it, looking for the ultimate application of such a precious resource to over unity experiments.So far, copper has done the trick, and nothing more exotic has been needed. But...I am open to anti gravity, or other nifty projects, where we might hit the wall with ordinary copper technology. So far, copper is cheap and cheery. I am not needing to drive big amps through tiny wires for extended distances, like that stage performance guy, I designed, and built, the heads for.I was having nightmares with that head at Coachella, prio to going on stage.1 hour to go, before we were going on stage, it was still not working right, yet performed perfectly, for weeks on end, of testing.It was crazy making.After tearing it apart all night the night before, many times, I demanded to check their stage computer leads, as I was completely frustrated.The first lead connector I cut open was such a piece of crap I was jumping up and down with relief, hugging my assistant, as you all know, nothing is better than finding something really wrong, after such a hard search.These computer patch cords were made up in Georgia. Half the leads were just causally touching at the connectors having turned green and broken off at the solder joints.The wires were designed for crimps being copper, inside polyethylene rubbish, compared to the silver running to them. Every time they would disconnect under load, high voltage spikes would shoot through the TTL signal lines, and over voltage the chips controlling the high powered LEDs, of course, damaging them.Not only were the connections soldered, they had soldered them with plumber's acid core solder!Was this the work of some roadie shopping at some gas station at midnight? Who knows?After a mad soldering blitz the head was plugged in, plunked on the performer, stepped in front of 100,000 madly waving cheering fans, working perfectly.I stood there, in the darkened wing portion of the stage, thinking to myself"I am too old for this sort of shit"Beside me, was Danny Devito, cheering, and clapping, along with that sea of faces out there.Three days of torture because of "special custom made patch cords"Plumbing solder?So much for Canadian silver to plug into.Cheers Warren Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 8:50 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: https://sciencing.com/metals-make-good-conductors-electricity-8115694.html https://www.researchgate.net/post/Why_is_silver_more_conductive_than_other_metals https://www.bluesea.com/resources/108/Electrical_Conductivity_of_Materials http://eddy-current.com/conductivity-of-metals-sorted-by-resistivity/ Back when I built a 12" replica of the famous Dotto Ring, I had to put my copper ring in an annealing furnace and bring up the temp to the curie point of the copper to get the dead soft annealed conductivity specified. I have told all of you about getting the max performance out of your coils by going through the annealing step to relieve the work hardening due to bending stress. https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=/m/0lrn5&hl=en-US&kgs=8eb4e8960f9f4384&q=Phonon&shndl=0&source=sh/x/kp&entrypoint=sh/x/kp Something very important here is the role of the Phonon in electron mobility within the atomic lattice. Bert, this sort of answers the question that Joel and I had as having to warm up the MRA Piezo crystal and Barium ferrite magnet before it displayed the O/U traits. Acoustic energy moves those electrons around. https://www.chemicool.com/definition/phonons.html https://www.yourdictionary.com/phonon On 2/5/2019 9:44 AM, Norman [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: Mick, let us not forget this guy that was lost in the history of magnets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrus_Peregrinus_de_Maricourt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_compass http://www.thefullwiki.org/Magnetic_compass Now we know how Warren gets from Canada to New Zealand. Lol =============================================================================== Message 4192 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 20:33 From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED -- To : NORMAN WOOTAN Subject: (R) Pereginus Motor Folder : A, "Public Mail" Hi Norm, I had a friend, who is a historian, check out old Peregrinus, and it turns out that he's the guy who first recognized magnetic "poles" as such, and labelled them. Later, he invented the graduated and calibrated compass! Wonder why history has all but forgotten him? I'll bring the info to the next meeting...btw, when is it? CUL Joel =============================================================================== On 2/4/2019 8:42 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: Must read!!! http://exvacuo.free.fr/div/Sciences/NewEnergy/Cranks/Johnson%20-%20The%20secret%20world%20of%20magnets.pdf On 2/4/2019 5:47 AM, Norman [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: Back on new years day, Bert gave an excellent explanation of magnetic fields. Please review. On 1/1/2019 9:20 AM, Bert Pool wrote: 1) Faraday generator experiments show that the magnetic field coming out of a magnet pole does NOT rotate when the magnet is rotated. You can glue a Faraday disk to the magnet and rotate both and the disk generates a current. I.e., the lines of force surrounding the magnet are stationary, even if the magnet rotates! The magnet has to be there to align the flux lines and concentrate them, but the lines of flux are part and parcel of space and do not originate with the magnet. Think of the magnet as a necessary "catalyst" for the flux. To me, this shows that magnets do NOT produce a magnetic field, but instead they align and condensemagnetic flux that is already in that space. 2) I visualize space as being filled with billions and billions of flux lines all coming from every possible direction and every possible north/south polarity. Think of space as filled with a mass of boiled spaghetti, representing a chaotic mixture of flux lines. Since these lines are completely random as to polarity, the sum values of all the flux in any one spot averages to zero. But, when you place a chunk of special metal (we call it a magnet) into that space, it bends and aligns these random flux lines all into the same direction and polarity. A magnet does not produce a magnetic field, it brings order and coherence to the mass of field lines that already exist in that space surrounding the magnet. Think of it as taking that mass of bent, twisted and random spaghetti and straightening it out into nice, neat straight aligned fields. 3) Why do certain metal combinations affect magnetic lines of flux, while others do not? I don't think anyone has a good answer to that. For example, Alnico magnets are made of aluminum and cobalt. Aluminum is non-magnetic, so why is aluminum required for an alnico magnet to work? 4) If space is filled with a random mass of magnetic flux lines that sum to zero, and are only evident to us as observers when a mass of appropriate metal alloy (a magnet) is present, then I wonder are there other kinds of flux filling space, somewhat like lines of magnetic flux, that are not apparent to us because they too sum to zero, but would appear if only a different kind of "magnet" were constructed which aligns those other non-magnetic fields, thus making them evident. For example, it could be that gravity fields cross through space from all directions and with random orientations and normally sum to zero. If I place you into space a few billion miles from anything else, will you experience "gravity"? No. But place a suitable piece of properly made alloy into that space, and it would align and concentrate those lines of gravitational flux so that we can percieve this new thing we might call a gravitational field. Fortunately, the alloy for gravitational flux already exists, and is called "matter." Some alloys work better at aligning and concentrating gravitational flux lines, just as different metal alloys differ in their ability to align and concentrate magnetic flux lines. Some kinds of metals work better as magnets than others. Some kinds of mass work better as gravity concentrators than others (i.e., styrofoam versus lead.) 5) Magnetic field lines can be affected by electrical coils, which perform the same alignment and concentration of flux lines in space that permant magnets do. It might very well be possible that producing a gravitational analog is possible. Of course, the question becomes, what would the "coil" be made of, and what kind of energy would flow through it to align and concentrate gravity? And perhaps not only gravity. There could be other kinds of energy that fills space and sums to zero without the presence of a suitable nearby "magnet." Dark energy comes to mind as a possible example. BertOn 2/5/2019 9:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote: https://www.physics-and-radio-electronics.com/electronic-devices-and-circuits/semiconductor/intrinsic-semiconductor/electron-and-hole-current.html https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/semiconductors/chpt-2/electrons-and-holes/ https://www.quora.com/How-does-one-explain-electricity-at-relativistic-speeds This is absolutely a great dissertation on my main interest in NEGATIVE ELECTRICITY. See 33432 at attachments Remember my paper on WHAT is HEAT, negative Ions = cold, positive Ions = hot. See InTech at attachments https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/71099/relativity-and-current-in-wire https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineering/introduction-to-ee/intro-to-ee/v/ee-conventional-current https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineering/introduction-to-ee/intro-to-ee/v/current-direction https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/magnetic-forces-and-magnetic-fields/magnetic-field-current-carrying-wire/v/magnetism-6-magnetic-field-due-to-current Warren, You are an Old Navy Salt, Sailor, whom will appreciate the color coding of conductors by the Marine Industry, taken from the U.S. Navy days gone by. When I went through DeVry School in 1953, I learned that Black was common ground in a circuit and white was the hot wire. U.S. Navy. Remember when General motors used a POSITIVE ground on their cars and Ford had a NEGATIVE ground as did the U.S. Navy to prevent the electroylisis problem. We had to be careful when using battery cables trying to jump start a Chevy from a Ford battery, cause of opposite polarity. Gee. The salt used on the roads up North ate up the fenders of Chevys. 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