Re: Magnetic fields and stuff gets interesting when Einstein gets envolved. RELATIVITY

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Norman Wootan <[email protected]>

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Mick, let us not forget this guy that was lost in the history of magnets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrus_Peregrinus_de_Maricourt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_compass

http://www.thefullwiki.org/Magnetic_compass Now we know how Warren gets 
from Canada to New Zealand.  Lol

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Message 4192                                   DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 20:33
From   : JOEL MCCLAIN                       -- RECEIVED --
To     : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) Pereginus Motor
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Hi Norm,
I had a friend, who is a historian, check out old Peregrinus, and it
turns out that he's the guy who first recognized magnetic "poles" as
such, and labelled them.  Later, he invented the graduated and
calibrated compass!  Wonder why history has all but forgotten him?
I'll bring the info to the next meeting...btw, when is it?
CUL
Joel
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On 2/4/2019 8:42 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:

Must read!!!

http://exvacuo.free.fr/div/Sciences/NewEnergy/Cranks/Johnson%20-%20The%20secret%20world%20of%20magnets.pdf

On 2/4/2019 5:47 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:

Back on new years day, Bert gave an excellent explanation of magnetic 
fields.  Please review.

On 1/1/2019 9:20 AM, Bert Pool wrote:

1) Faraday generator experiments show that the magnetic field coming out 
of a magnet pole does NOT rotate when the magnet is rotated.  You can 
glue a Faraday disk to the magnet and rotate both and the disk generates 
a current.  I.e., the lines of force surrounding the magnet are 
stationary, even if the magnet rotates!  The magnet has to be there to 
align the flux lines and concentrate them, but the lines of flux are 
part and parcel of space and do not originate with the magnet.  Think of 
the magnet as a necessary "catalyst" for the flux.  To me, this shows 
that magnets do NOT produce a magnetic field, but instead they align and 
condense _magnetic flux that is already in that space_.

2) I visualize space as being filled with billions and billions of flux 
lines all coming from every possible direction and every possible 
north/south polarity.  Think of space as filled with a mass of boiled 
spaghetti, representing a chaotic mixture of flux lines.  Since these 
lines are completely random as to polarity, the sum values of all the 
flux in any one spot averages to zero. But, when you place a chunk of 
special metal (we call it a magnet) into that space, it bends and aligns 
these random flux lines all into the same direction and polarity.  A 
magnet does not produce a magnetic field, it brings order and coherence 
to the mass of field lines that already exist in that space surrounding 
the magnet. Think of it as taking that mass of bent, twisted and random 
spaghetti and straightening it out into nice, neat straight aligned fields.

3) Why do certain metal combinations affect magnetic lines of flux, 
while others do not?  I don't think anyone has a good answer to that.  
For example, Alnico magnets are made of aluminum and cobalt.  Aluminum 
is non-magnetic, so why is aluminum required for an alnico magnet to work?

4)  If space is filled with a random mass of magnetic flux lines that 
sum to zero, and are only evident to us as observers when a mass of 
appropriate metal alloy (a magnet) is present, then I wonder are there 
other kinds of flux filling space, somewhat like lines of magnetic flux, 
that are not apparent to us because they too sum to zero, but would 
appear if only a different kind of "magnet" were constructed which 
aligns those other non-magnetic fields, thus making them evident.  For 
example, it could be that gravity fields cross through space from all 
directions and with random orientations and normally sum to zero.  If I 
place you into space a few billion miles from anything else, will you 
experience "gravity"?  No.  But place a suitable piece of properly made 
alloy into that space, and it would align and concentrate those lines of 
gravitational flux so that we can percieve this new thing we might call 
a gravitational field.  Fortunately, the alloy for gravitational flux 
already exists, and is called "matter."  Some alloys work better at 
aligning and concentrating gravitational flux lines, just as different 
metal alloys differ in their ability to align and concentrate magnetic 
flux lines.  Some kinds of metals work better as magnets than others.  
Some kinds of mass work better as gravity concentrators than others 
(i.e., styrofoam versus lead.)

5) Magnetic field lines can be affected by electrical coils, which 
perform the same alignment and concentration of flux lines in space that 
permant magnets do.  It might very well be possible that producing a 
gravitational analog is possible.  Of course, the question becomes, what 
would the "coil" be made of, and what kind of energy would flow through 
it to align and concentrate gravity? And perhaps not only gravity.  
There could be other kinds of energy that fills space and sums to zero 
without the presence of a suitable nearby "magnet."  Dark energy comes 
to mind as a possible example.

Bert
On 2/5/2019 9:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
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> https://www.physics-and-radio-electronics.com/electronic-devices-and-circuits/semiconductor/intrinsic-semiconductor/electron-and-hole-current.html 
>
>
> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/semiconductors/chpt-2/electrons-and-holes/ 
>
>
> https://www.quora.com/How-does-one-explain-electricity-at-relativistic-speeds 
> This is absolutely a great dissertation on my main interest in 
> NEGATIVE ELECTRICITY.
>
> See 33432 at attachments    Remember my paper on WHAT is HEAT, 
> negative Ions = cold, positive Ions = hot.
>
> See InTech at attachments
>
> https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/71099/relativity-and-current-in-wire 
>
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> https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineering/introduction-to-ee/intro-to-ee/v/ee-conventional-current 
>
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> https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineering/introduction-to-ee/intro-to-ee/v/current-direction 
>
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> https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/magnetic-forces-and-magnetic-fields/magnetic-field-current-carrying-wire/v/magnetism-6-magnetic-field-due-to-current 
>
>
> Warren, You are an Old Navy Salt, Sailor, whom will appreciate the 
> color coding of conductors by the Marine Industry, taken from the U.S. 
> Navy days gone by.   When I went through DeVry School in 1953, I 
> learned that Black was common ground in a circuit and white
>
> was the hot wire. U.S. Navy.  Remember when General motors used a 
> POSITIVE ground on their cars and Ford had a NEGATIVE ground as did 
> the U.S. Navy to prevent the electroylisis problem.  We had to be 
> careful when using battery cables trying to jump start a Chevy from a 
> Ford battery, cause of opposite polarity.  Gee.  The salt used on the 
> roads up North ate up the fenders of Chevys. Lol
>
>
>

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