Re: [EVGRAY] Gary Porter looper ready to bideo lnk

Warren,

Perhaps you could use this motor as a motor/gen in one.  Just throw on a
PWM speed control and tune for load. But more likely just use two of
them, one with the motor and one for the gen with the PWM and a
transmission between the two so you can define the differential you
would need for the sweet spot.

Not sure the type of motor Hector is referring to a DC with DELTA...

On 1/22/2019 11:17 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hector
>
> Just before you again, skip off, into silence, I have asked you
> questions regarding this, you never responded to.
> I have some interesting dc motors that have double commutators, and
> brushes. The commutators have a lot of segments on each.
> They share the same set of four magnets, but there are brushes coming
> out either end.
> I have been able to wire them in series and also parallel for more
> amperage or more voltage.
> You are suggesting a whole new game with using these motors.
> I'll fish one out, and take some pictures, to see what you can make of
> it. This might be a ready made magical motor.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>
>     On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 at 11:14 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>      
>
>     PM dc motors can be rewired to WYE from its customary DELTA wiring
>     and a second set of brushes used to Recover the reverse pulse into
>     a capacitor across a diode bridge. simply you cut one wire
>     segments from the brushes that have 2 wires in delta  in one
>     direction and solder into a wire ring ( any number of brushes )
>
>     with no self shunting will work ou ..... at X speed (sweet spot)
>
>     not the first time i post this , and still no one had commented on
>     it ....
>
>     its so fucking simple to experiment with a dc 12v car PM dc motor . 
>
>     the hardest  part will be to place extra set of collector brushes
>     but is not so hard as building
>
>     a wachumacallit little school brat toy motor !
>
>     (H)
>
>     PS why not stop going back to the bullshit toys ?
>
>
>
>     ---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :
>
>     Doug
>     If we are experimenting to find a speed, nothing is easier than a
>     dc motor run by a variac.
>     Once the magic sweet rpm is found, it is fairly simple to note
>     that rpm and then with pulleys and belts use a fixed rpm ac motor.
>     Now my question concerns the RV running as a motor. It takes a
>     certain horse power to turn the generator shaft at a speed, even
>     without a load on the generator, and friction with belts and pulleys.
>     What I am curious about is delivering that specific load, with
>     whatever device, and comparing an RV driving that load at a
>     certain draw, and for instance a permanent magnet motor draw for
>     that same load, comparing them with numbers indicating relative
>     efficiencies.
>     I told you how I have run my drill press on the boat using 12
>     volts and a weenie 300 watt inverter that I have never blown the
>     breaker on, even drilling 1" holes in stainless plate! The little
>     belt on the drill press may slip, but that motor doesn't even know
>     there is a load , hardly.
>     It is a very practical system to use involving a 5 amp Variac run
>     by the 300 watt inverter (120 v 60hz) and a bridge rectifier, a
>     double pole, double throw, switch, and to the motor.
>     I change the speeds with either the belt, or the knob on the
>     Variac, using the drill press for everything from router, using
>     carbide cutters, for aluminium, or teak, using vertical milling
>     cutters, and cross slide vise for cast iron machining, high speeds
>     with wire brushes for polishing metal, or grinding with grind
>     stones, rotary files etc.
>     Oh, and I also drill holes with it.
>     300 watts does it just fine for everything, using a cheap
>     Taiwanese cast iron drill press, that was under $100, with the ac
>     motor changed for a permanent magnet Dayton 5/8" shaft ordinary dc
>     motor of perhaps 90 volts nominal used for computer tape drives,
>     and bought for scrap.
>     I have lots of unemployed RV motors too.
>     I am curious to get this right, and sort out what is making the magic.
>     Cheers Warren
>
>
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>             On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 at 7:34 AM, konehead@... [EVGRAY]
>             <[email protected]> wrote:
>              
>
>             Hi Warren
>             Not trying to confuse., just saying any sort of prime
>             mover motor could be used IF your generators are no lenz.....
>             Rotovertor is stuck in its sinewave speed so would need a
>             VFD to test the generators at specific rpms that will give
>             the delayed Lenz effect.
>             Why this design loops and with power left over is the
>             generators are turned by belts and pulleys that put them
>             into that delayed Lenz effect rpm window.
>             To find that rpm window you need to run the generators
>             through wide rpm range until you find through the testing
>             where amps drop low while generator is under load noe.keep
>             rpm steady there, and loop it...msybe rpms drops some when
>             you try and loop it, so if so, go for higher rpm initially
>             and let the rpms drop into the delayed Lenz effect window
>             zone...this I believe why the flywheel. As Gary said
>             original builder said he looped it without flywheel and
>             flywheel only makes it easier to ":introduce" the load.
>             As for rotovertor shsft power, you must increase run cap
>             uf to give the shaft some decent torque....the original
>             lowest draw run cap value at idle with no load on shaft
>             will stall the shaft very easy with just light load on
>             shaft so you need to increase run cap uf when turning
>             loads...i found about 30uf gave me good power not so much
>             extra draw with 7.5hp baldor as example. Be careful
>             introducing large caps while motor runs!!! You might/will
>             need to shut down motor and restart with new larger uf run
>             cap in place
>             already, so use start cap to get it going from stop, and
>             pull off start cap leaving just the new larger size if run
>             cap.....try putting a 30uf cap on your rv motor as it runs
>             very very briefly you will see lots of magnetic braking
>             manifest...
>             Kone
>
>

MickYes, I am confused with DC and delta as well

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  On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 at 10:07 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Warren,
 
Perhaps you could use this motor as a motor/gen in one.  Just throw on a PWM speed control and tune for load. But more likely just use two of them, one with the motor and one for the gen with the PWM and a transmission between the two so you can define the differential you would need for the sweet spot.
 
 
Not sure the type of motor Hector is referring to a DC with DELTA...
 
 On 1/22/2019 11:17 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Hector
 Just before you again, skip off, into silence, I have asked you questions regarding this, you never responded to. I have some interesting dc motors that have double commutators, and brushes. The commutators have a lot of segments on each. They share the same set of four magnets, but there are brushes coming out either end. I have been able to wire them in series and also parallel for more amperage or more voltage. You are suggesting a whole new game with using these motors. I'll fish one out, and take some pictures, to see what you can make of it. This might be a ready made magical motor.
 Cheers Warren
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 at 11:14 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
PM dc motors can be rewired to WYE from its customary DELTA wiring and a second set of brushes used to Recover the reverse pulse into a capacitor across a diode bridge. simply you cut one wire segments from the brushes that have 2 wires in delta  in one direction and solder into a wire ring ( any number of brushes )
 
 with no self shunting will work ou ..... at X speed (sweet spot) 
 
 not the first time i post this , and still no one had commented on it ....
 
 its so fucking simple to experiment with a dc 12v car PM dc motor .  
 
 the hardest  part will be to place extra set of collector brushes but is not so hard as building 
 
 a wachumacallit little school brat toy motor ! 
 
 (H) 
 
 PS why not stop going back to the bullshit toys ? 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :
 
 Doug If we are experimenting to find a speed, nothing is easier than a dc motor run by a variac. Once the magic sweet rpm is found, it is fairly simple to note that rpm and then with pulleys and belts use a fixed rpm ac motor. Now my question concerns the RV running as a motor. It takes a certain horse power to turn the generator shaft at a speed, even without a load on the generator, and friction with belts and  pulleys. What I am curious about is delivering that specific load, with whatever device, and comparing an RV driving that load at a certain draw, and for instance a permanent magnet motor draw for that  same load, comparing them with numbers indicating relative efficiencies. I told you how I have run my drill press on the boat using 12 volts and a weenie 300 watt inverter that I have never blown the breaker on, even drilling 1" holes in stainless plate!  The little belt on the drill press may slip, but that motor doesn't even know there is a load , hardly. It is a very practical system to use involving a 5 amp Variac run by the 300 watt inverter (120 v 60hz) and a bridge rectifier, a double pole, double throw, switch, and to the motor. I change the speeds with either the belt, or the knob on the Variac, using the drill press for everything from router, using carbide cutters, for aluminium, or teak, using vertical  milling cutters, and cross slide vise for cast iron machining, high speeds with wire brushes for polishing metal, or grinding with grind stones, rotary files etc. Oh, and I also drill holes with it. 300 watts does it just fine for everything, using a cheap Taiwanese cast iron drill press, that was under $100, with the ac motor changed for a permanent magnet Dayton 5/8" shaft  ordinary dc motor of perhaps 90 volts nominal used for computer tape drives, and bought for scrap. I have lots of unemployed RV motors too. I am curious to get this right, and sort out what is making the magic. Cheers Warren 
 
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  On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 at 7:34 AM, konehead@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
Hi Warren
 Not trying to confuse., just saying any sort of prime mover motor could be used IF  your generators are no lenz.....
 Rotovertor is stuck in its sinewave speed so would need a VFD to test the generators at  specific rpms that will give the delayed Lenz effect.
 Why this design loops and with power left over is the generators are turned by belts and  pulleys that put them into that delayed Lenz effect rpm window.
 To find that rpm window you need to run the generators through wide rpm range until you find  through the testing where amps drop low while generator is under load noe.keep rpm steady there,  and loop it...msybe rpms drops some when you try and loop it, so if so, go for higher rpm initially and let the rpms drop into the delayed Lenz effect window zone...this I believe why the flywheel. As Gary  said original builder said he looped it without flywheel and flywheel only makes it easier to  ":introduce" the load.
 As for rotovertor shsft power, you must increase run cap uf to give the shaft some decent  torque....the original lowest draw run cap value at idle with no load on shaft will stall the shaft very easy with just light load on shaft so you need to increase run cap uf when turning loads...i found  about 30uf gave me good power not so much extra draw with 7.5hp baldor as example. Be careful  introducing large caps while motor runs!!! You might/will need to shut down motor and restart with new  larger uf run cap in place
 already, so use start cap to get it going from stop, and pull off start cap leaving just the new  larger size if run cap.....try putting a 30uf cap on your rv motor as it runs very very briefly  you will see lots of magnetic braking manifest...
 Kone
 
 
       
 
          
   
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Hi Hector
Can you give bit.mote elaboration on this double brush WYE not DELTA  dc motor simple modificatiob?
Some question;
Is this a 3ph DC motor you are talking about? Like electric bike dc motor?
And/or dc treadmill motor?
DC stepper motor could this possibly work?
Man you give abit.more info maybe link to suitable motor?
One thing I see easy to do is use two motors mated at shaft, one gets juice pumped through as usual, the other uses its brush commutator mechanism only for timing purposes to bring out the "reverse energy" and now the timing of the second set of brushes is easily adjusted in relation to the main motor getting the juice...now you can do the approx 5 degree delay like an echo I always talk about for people to try as to when the backemf/flyback/reverse energy connects to caps....
The EYE configuration reminds me of rotovertor with run cap phase....maybe you are thinking very similar but dc motor and 3ph type and only run on two windings but bring out power with 3rd into caps like AC rotovertor and also fill same caps or others with the backemf/ recoil/ flyback reverse energy as well??
Kone

Hi James
I agree with some of the comments - such as where is the transmitter and how.many watts does it consume?
Seems like demo of wireless transmission more or less...
Kone

Doug
Here's a video on free energy from Russia I think its pretty good you wife
might get more out of it and help you in translation down load on higher
definition they have text and circuit diagrams .looks like they are finding
cold electricity .and they explain it .

On Wednesday, January 23, 2019, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Hector
> Can you give bit.mote elaboration on this double brush WYE not DELTA dc
> motor simple modificatiob?
> Some question;
> Is this a 3ph DC motor you are talking about? Like electric bike dc motor?
> And/or dc treadmill motor?
> DC stepper motor could this possibly work?
> Man you give abit.more info maybe link to suitable motor?
> One thing I see easy to do is use two motors mated at shaft, one gets
> juice pumped through as usual, the other uses its brush commutator
> mechanism only for timing purposes to bring out the "reverse energy" and
> now the timing of the second set of brushes is easily adjusted in relation
> to the main motor getting the juice...now you can do the approx 5 degree
> delay like an echo I always talk about for people to try as to when the
> backemf/flyback/reverse energy connects to caps....
> The EYE configuration reminds me of rotovertor with run cap phase....maybe
> you are thinking very similar but dc motor and 3ph type and only run on two
> windings but bring out power with 3rd into caps like AC rotovertor and also
> fill same caps or others with the backemf/ recoil/ flyback reverse energy
> as well??
> Kone
>
> 
>

Try again
https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4On Wednesday, January 23, 2019, James Glinski <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Doug
> Here's a video on free energy from Russia I think its pretty good you wife
> might get more out of it and help you in translation down load on higher
> definition they have text and circuit diagrams .looks like they are finding
> cold electricity .and they explain it .
>
> On Wednesday, January 23, 2019, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Hector
>> Can you give bit.mote elaboration on this double brush WYE not DELTA dc
>> motor simple modificatiob?
>> Some question;
>> Is this a 3ph DC motor you are talking about? Like electric bike dc motor?
>> And/or dc treadmill motor?
>> DC stepper motor could this possibly work?
>> Man you give abit.more info maybe link to suitable motor?
>> One thing I see easy to do is use two motors mated at shaft, one gets
>> juice pumped through as usual, the other uses its brush commutator
>> mechanism only for timing purposes to bring out the "reverse energy" and
>> now the timing of the second set of brushes is easily adjusted in relation
>> to the main motor getting the juice...now you can do the approx 5 degree
>> delay like an echo I always talk about for people to try as to when the
>> backemf/flyback/reverse energy connects to caps....
>> The EYE configuration reminds me of rotovertor with run cap
>> phase....maybe you are thinking very similar but dc motor and 3ph type and
>> only run on two windings but bring out power with 3rd into caps like AC
>> rotovertor and also fill same caps or others with the backemf/ recoil/
>> flyback reverse energy as well??
>> Kone
>>
>> 
>>
>

Weres the dam address at ?              https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4    I
think this might go though

https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4On Wednesday, January 23, 2019, James Glinski <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Try again
> https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4On Wednesday, January 23, 2019, James Glinski
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Doug
>> Here's a video on free energy from Russia I think its pretty good you
>> wife might get more out of it and help you in translation down load on
>> higher definition they have text and circuit diagrams .looks like they are
>> finding cold electricity .and they explain it .
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 23, 2019, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Hector
>>> Can you give bit.mote elaboration on this double brush WYE not DELTA dc
>>> motor simple modificatiob?
>>> Some question;
>>> Is this a 3ph DC motor you are talking about? Like electric bike dc
>>> motor?
>>> And/or dc treadmill motor?
>>> DC stepper motor could this possibly work?
>>> Man you give abit.more info maybe link to suitable motor?
>>> One thing I see easy to do is use two motors mated at shaft, one gets
>>> juice pumped through as usual, the other uses its brush commutator
>>> mechanism only for timing purposes to bring out the "reverse energy" and
>>> now the timing of the second set of brushes is easily adjusted in relation
>>> to the main motor getting the juice...now you can do the approx 5 degree
>>> delay like an echo I always talk about for people to try as to when the
>>> backemf/flyback/reverse energy connects to caps....
>>> The EYE configuration reminds me of rotovertor with run cap
>>> phase....maybe you are thinking very similar but dc motor and 3ph type and
>>> only run on two windings but bring out power with 3rd into caps like AC
>>> rotovertor and also fill same caps or others with the backemf/ recoil/
>>> flyback reverse energy as well??
>>> Kone
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>

Kone,

Its a confusing video.  What is happening offscreen is a Tesla coil
built along the lines of the Corum bros to demonstrate Zenneck waves
based on their patent app.  Not excess energy but rather that the power
appears at the junction of an insulator and conductor namely the base of
the bulb on the plastic standoff block.

On 1/24/2019 12:03 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi James
> I agree with some of the comments - such as where is the transmitter
> and how.many watts does it consume?
> Seems like demo of wireless transmission more or less...
> Kone
>
>

James,

You have some really sick gangsters down there.I read about the incident
in Tasmania which was used to illegalize guns.  Basically a mercenary
was brought in and killed 20 people with headshots from the hip right
handed in under 30 seconds and it was blamed on a retarded man who was
left handed with no shooting skills.  Looks like possible Mossad mercs,
very sick shit, the kid was presumed guilty by the press and no one who
was there and lived was allowed to testify that the shooter had an ugly
pockmarked face while the kid was angelic looking with perfect skin.  Oh
yeah the pigs stole the kids fortune he had been left so he had no money
for an attorney.  That's some really evil shit but the same types have
pulled some of the school shootings in the US also.  The Batman killer
where they drugged him with devils breath and had him do the theatre,
same way Manson setup Tex Watson, the original Tex Watson recorded
confession to the LAPD is sealed and remains so. This is all a really a
sick group that gets off on this shit.  Criminals in Colombia use the
same drug to get victims to empty ATM's willingly.  The drugging and
hours of required programming are passed down by an oral criminal
tradition, specifics are kept secret.  Later anything the evil press
spews people believe hook line and sinker.  All the people whining about
racisim and slavery in the US 200 years ago who refuse to do anything
about real slavery still active in many parts of the world, most also
own I phones made by Chinese slave children taken from school and made
to work for free 12 hour days at Foxconn company store or not graduate.
At least in Colombia many people refuse to buy I phones because they
consider the product immoral.  I hate what Apple has become. The world
has become a society of inept castrated social posturing parrots, very
sad.  I know what you are up against- Gods speed!

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/18/foxconn-life-death-forbidden-city-longhua-suicide-apple-iphone-brian-merchant-one-device-extract

https://www.ft.com/content/7cb56786-cda1-11e7-b781-794ce08b24dc


On 1/23/2019 10:31 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Doug
>
> Here's a video on free energy from Russia I think its pretty good you
> wife might get more out of it and help you in translation down load on
> higher definition they have text and circuit diagrams .looks like they
> are finding cold electricity .and they explain it .
>
> On Wednesday, January 23, 2019, [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>      
>
>     Hi Hector
>     Can you give bit.mote elaboration on this double brush WYE not
>     DELTA dc motor simple modificatiob?
>     Some question;
>     Is this a 3ph DC motor you are talking about? Like electric bike
>     dc motor?
>     And/or dc treadmill motor?
>     DC stepper motor could this possibly work?
>     Man you give abit.more info maybe link to suitable motor?
>     One thing I see easy to do is use two motors mated at shaft, one
>     gets juice pumped through as usual, the other uses its brush
>     commutator mechanism only for timing purposes to bring out the
>     "reverse energy" and now the timing of the second set of brushes
>     is easily adjusted in relation to the main motor getting the
>     juice...now you can do the approx 5 degree delay like an echo I
>     always talk about for people to try as to when the
>     backemf/flyback/reverse energy connects to caps....
>     The EYE configuration reminds me of rotovertor with run cap
>     phase....maybe you are thinking very similar but dc motor and 3ph
>     type and only run on two windings but bring out power with 3rd
>     into caps like AC rotovertor and also fill same caps or others
>     with the backemf/ recoil/ flyback reverse energy as well??
>     Kone
>
>

Any DC pm motor !  



Try an small one first!  using WYE ring as shown voltage rating is V x 2 current rating is I/2

there are several options like using one pole or offset poles or extra .

had told several times the delta setup self shunts dc motors not the WYE one. why built a Bedini 

motor if all DC motors can be turned to Newman , Bedini , and RV motors .....? why stay reworking useless shit time after time ? DC motor rotor cores are hi quality laminate else hysteresis burns them within working minutes in the crosscurrents ...

there is no excuse ,. there are several ways to combine also the brush segments in invert shorting to create huge spikes using extra brushes ! ( neutral spikes within rotor ) Read kelly on his never disclosed self running DC motor , fist disclosure it worked  in WYE  not delta , and 3 brushes can be used to tap 3 phase DC pulsing power.

ARK Ω © 1996, 2019   not for patent or public paper unless source quoted , other rights apply
not for sale or profit .   

(H) 
 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

 Hi Hector
 Can you give bit.mote elaboration on this double brush WYE not DELTA dc motor simple modification?
 Some question;
 Is this a 3ph DC motor you are talking about? Like electric bike dc motor?
 And/or dc treadmill motor?
 DC stepper motor could this possibly work?
 Man you give abit.more info maybe link to suitable motor?
 One thing I see easy to do is use two motors mated at shaft, one gets juice pumped through as usual, the other uses its brush commutator mechanism only for timing purposes to bring out the "reverse energy" and now the timing of the second set of brushes is easily adjusted in relation to the main motor getting the juice...now you can do the approx 5 degree delay like an echo I always talk about for people to try as to when the backemf/flyback/reverse energy connects to caps....
 The EYE configuration reminds me of rotovertor with run cap phase....maybe you are thinking very similar but dc motor and 3ph type and only run on two windings but bring out power with 3rd into caps like AC rotovertor and also fill same caps or others with the backemf/ recoil/ flyback reverse energy as well??
 Kone

Also it can be any number of poles and or commutator or brushes , the WYE connection will be universal ,

 some experimental  notes :

hi voltage will cause brush segment crossover arcing , ( on back EMFP ) during brush disconnect !

no shunting means motor will tent to accelerate with no restriction this will create huge voltage spikes .

be careful  commutation can deliver very hi voltage spikes   and make you jump like a frog tossed 

in a Yellowstone hot geyser pool  wile touching the wrong wire , yes even if using a 12V car battery 

more if using secondary extra brushes to capture the CEMP release ! 

be careful! 

revise my old notes on 40 phase alternator  WYE & DELTA wiring .....

(H)  





---In [email protected], <arkresearch@...> wrote :

 Any DC pm motor !  



Try an small one first!  using WYE ring as shown voltage rating is V x 2 current rating is I/2

there are several options like using one pole or offset poles or extra .

had told several times the delta setup self shunts dc motors not the WYE one. why built a Bedini 

motor if all DC motors can be turned to Newman , Bedini , and RV motors .....? why stay reworking useless shit time after time ? DC motor rotor cores are hi quality laminate else hysteresis burns them within working minutes in the crosscurrents ...

there is no excuse ,. there are several ways to combine also the brush segments in invert shorting to create huge spikes using extra brushes ! ( neutral spikes within rotor ) Read kelly on his never disclosed self running DC motor , fist disclosure it worked  in WYE  not delta , and 3 brushes can be used to tap 3 phase DC pulsing power.

ARK Ω © 1996, 2019   not for patent or public paper unless source quoted , other rights apply
not for sale or profit .   

(H) 
 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

 Hi Hector
 Can you give bit.mote elaboration on this double brush WYE not DELTA dc motor simple modification?
 Some question;
 Is this a 3ph DC motor you are talking about? Like electric bike dc motor?
 And/or dc treadmill motor?
 DC stepper motor could this possibly work?
 Man you give abit.more info maybe link to suitable motor?
 One thing I see easy to do is use two motors mated at shaft, one gets juice pumped through as usual, the other uses its brush commutator mechanism only for timing purposes to bring out the "reverse energy" and now the timing of the second set of brushes is easily adjusted in relation to the main motor getting the juice...now you can do the approx 5 degree delay like an echo I always talk about for people to try as to when the backemf/flyback/reverse energy connects to caps....
 The EYE configuration reminds me of rotovertor with run cap phase....maybe you are thinking very similar but dc motor and 3ph type and only run on two windings but bring out power with 3rd into caps like AC rotovertor and also fill same caps or others with the backemf/ recoil/ flyback reverse energy as well??
 Kone

MickOh man! Did you ever get this morning grumpy!Where are you living that has gone so much to rat shit?I admit, the big city was getting to me, but even there, pockets of civilization exist. Neighborhoods still function even in Toronto, gender bent, and racially, diverse as it is, people do tend to get along with each other, in respectful coexistence, up and down the street.Drugs become a whole new ball game, with really screwed up users, cutting across the entire spectrum.Screwed up? They lose the social fabric that holds us all together, where people generally respect law and order, because they have such urgent needs.Organized crime? Corporations?
The new generation of mafia kids have graduated from Harvard, wirh business degrees.Do you think any old Don wants his kids graduating from jail, and carrying a pistol, like he did?However, predatory business practice abounds, using the tooth and claw ethics of the street, shifted to more sophisticated methods, and far more effective for removing money from the gullible.Fake news? I know plenty of journalists, and have worked with them. The ones I know, have sharp minds, are far braver than I am, willing to die getting the truth, using their enquiring skills, seeing, and recording stuff, just because that is how they are.They are professional witnesses to the World's current events, and just want to share with us, what they have found.The scammers come out of the World of advertising, and public relations. There are people there, in that industry, that have not a care in the World whether they lie, or tell the truth, as long as it works to achieve their client's goals.They have subspecies scientists that can determine exactly the kind of lie that will achieve to desired effect within a few percentage points on a given population.Having worked on over 4,000 television commercials, I have also met these people.Political parties hire them too!It becomes a matter of who pays more, rather than democracy, considering ideas, and what is right for people.Cheers Warren
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  On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 6:06 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

James, 
 
 
You have some really sick gangsters down there.I read about the incident in Tasmania which was used to illegalize guns.  Basically a mercenary was brought in and killed 20 people with headshots from the hip right handed in under 30 seconds and it was blamed on a retarded man who was left handed with no shooting skills.  Looks like possible Mossad mercs, very sick shit, the kid was presumed guilty by the press and no one who was there and lived was allowed to testify that the shooter had an ugly pockmarked face while the kid was angelic looking with perfect skin.  Oh yeah the pigs stole the kids fortune he had been left so he had no money for an attorney.  That's some really evil shit but the same types have pulled some of the school shootings in the US also.  The Batman killer where they drugged him with devils breath and had him do the theatre, same way Manson setup Tex Watson, the original Tex Watson recorded confession to the LAPD is sealed and remains so. This is all a really a sick group that gets off on this shit.  Criminals in Colombia use the same drug to get victims to empty ATM's willingly.  The drugging and hours of required programming are passed down by an oral criminal tradition, specifics are kept secret.  Later anything the evil press spews people believe hook line and sinker.  All the people whining about racisim and slavery in the US 200 years ago who refuse to do anything about real slavery still active in many parts of the world, most also own I phones made by Chinese slave children taken from school and made to work for free 12 hour days at Foxconn company store or not graduate. At least in Colombia many people refuse to buy I phones because they consider the product immoral.  I hate what Apple has become. The world has become a society of inept castrated social posturing parrots, very sad.  I know what you are up against- Gods speed!
 
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/18/foxconn-life-death-forbidden-city-longhua-suicide-apple-iphone-brian-merchant-one-device-extract
 
https://www.ft.com/content/7cb56786-cda1-11e7-b781-794ce08b24dc
 

 
 On 1/23/2019 10:31 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Doug
 Here's a video on free energy from Russia I think its pretty good you wife might get more out of it and help you in translation down load on higher definition they have text and circuit diagrams .looks like they are finding cold electricity .and they explain it .
 
 On Wednesday, January 23, 2019, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
 
       
Hi Hector
 Can you give bit.mote elaboration on this double brush WYE not DELTA dc motor simple modificatiob?
 Some question;
 Is this a 3ph DC motor you are talking about? Like electric bike dc motor?
 And/or dc treadmill motor?
 DC stepper motor could this possibly work?
 Man you give abit.more info maybe link to suitable motor?
 One thing I see easy to do is use two motors mated at shaft, one gets juice pumped through as usual, the other uses its brush commutator mechanism only for timing purposes to bring out the "reverse energy" and now the timing of  the second set of brushes is easily adjusted in relation to the main motor getting the juice...now you can do the approx 5 degree delay like an echo I always talk about for people to try as to when the backemf/flyback/reverse energy connects to caps....
 The EYE configuration reminds me of rotovertor with run cap phase....maybe you are thinking very similar but dc motor and 3ph type and only run on two windings but bring out power with 3rd into caps like AC rotovertor and also  fill same caps or others with the backemf/ recoil/ flyback reverse energy as well??
 Kone
 
 
     
   
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DougI have found that it is no big deal to increase the capacitance value on a running RV providing you have a fine graduation of you selection of caps in your tuning box.It is good to have a pile of 1Mf capacitors of 600 volts, oil filled types, and a long row of sturdy switches, looking like an audio mixing board as your tuning box.You go down the line progressively increasing the capacitance value gradually, and nothing bad happens. Most times, one capacitormakes no difference to the ammeter, because it is not such a big increment value to the 3 hp RV.So ok , same game, only go for power.Cheers Warren
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  On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 at 7:34 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Warren
Not trying to confuse., just saying any sort of prime mover motor could be used IF your generators are no lenz.....
Rotovertor is stuck in its sinewave speed so would need a VFD to test the generators at specific rpms that will give the delayed Lenz effect.
Why this design loops and with power left over is the generators are turned by belts and pulleys that put them into that delayed Lenz effect rpm window.
To find that rpm window you need to run the generators through wide rpm range until you find through the testing where amps drop low while generator is under load noe.keep rpm steady there, and loop it...msybe rpms drops some when you try and loop it, so if so, go for higher rpm initially and let the rpms drop into the delayed Lenz effect window zone...this I believe why the flywheel. As Gary said original builder said he looped it without flywheel and flywheel only makes it easier to ":introduce" the load.
As for rotovertor shsft power, you must increase run cap uf to give the shaft some decent torque....the original lowest draw run cap value at idle with no load on shaft will stall the shaft very easy with just light load on shaft so you need to increase run cap uf when turning loads...i found about 30uf gave me good power not so much extra draw with 7.5hp baldor as example. Be careful introducing large caps while motor runs!!! You might/will need to shut down motor and restart with new larger uf run cap in place
already, so use start cap to get it going from stop, and pull off start cap leaving just the new larger size if run cap.....try putting a 30uf cap on your rv motor as it runs very very briefly you will see lots of magnetic braking manifest...
Kone


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DougHave you been able to spend any time on your recent device?It was looking promising in the last video.Cheers Warren


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  On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 12:03 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi James
I agree with some of the comments - such as where is the transmitter and how.many watts does it consume?
Seems like demo of wireless transmission more or less...
Kone
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Hi Warren 
I haven't done anything since the copper commutator with brush. Next experiment is pulse motor coil  with hall effect and mosfet relay to about 1000 rpm drawing around 1 watt, this using one half of the split motor and generator coil damdwiched between the two 16 magnet rotors, then short at peaks with that copper commutator into cap the other (induced generator)half of the split coil.....i hope to fill same cap with both shorting the generator half and collecting the backemf/recoil/flyback in the motor half of the coil too.
It's 22F below zero here in Minsk now...our flat warm Soviet style concrete walls imbedded with steam pipes I guess are in there...gas heating is everywhere here cheap...
Kone

Hi all 
Gary porter just put up new video, he as his 4 ecm.motors working as generators spinning now via belts and pulleys  and is getting about 80v per ecm motor....the primeover wash machine pancake motor going about open it draws 2.3 amps and 110v...he also has the added feature of all the induced pickup coils next to the motor could of the pancakemotor he wound up....
Anyways he hasn't looped it yet but got it ruining pretty good so far...here is link to his youtube video...sounds like he has had a bad cold his voice hoarse...
https://youtu.be/QbR0K6mHGio
Kone

Hector,

Cool schematic, pretty damn brilliant cycling the shorted coils, thanks!

Which diodes 4007?

So leave one or two of the old poles connected and then use the
remaining as such or just spin with a second motor?

Do you have a link for the Kelly material?  Not sure if you mean
unreleased as not in his book or not physically produced.



On 1/24/2019 2:49 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Any DC pm motor ! 
>
>
>
> Try an small one first!  using WYE ring as shown voltage rating is V x
> 2 current rating is I/2
>
> there are several options like using one pole or offset poles or extra .
>
> had told several times the delta setup self shunts dc motors not the
> WYE one. why built a Bedini
>
> motor if all DC motors can be turned to Newman , Bedini , and RV
> motors .....? why stay reworking useless shit time after time ? DC
> motor rotor cores are hi quality laminate else hysteresis burns them
> within working minutes in the crosscurrents ...
>
> there is no excuse ,. there are several ways to combine also the brush
> segments in invert shorting to create huge spikes using extra brushes
> ! ( neutral spikes within rotor ) Read kelly on his never disclosed
> self running DC motor , fist disclosure it worked  in WYE  not delta ,
> and 3 brushes can be used to tap 3 phase DC pulsing power.
>
> ARK Ω © 1996, 2019   not for patent or public paper unless source
> quoted , other rights apply
> not for sale or profit .  
>
> (H)
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :
>
> Hi Hector
> Can you give bit.mote elaboration on this double brush WYE not DELTA
> dc motor simple modification?
> Some question;
> Is this a 3ph DC motor you are talking about? Like electric bike dc motor?
> And/or dc treadmill motor?
> DC stepper motor could this possibly work?
> Man you give abit.more info maybe link to suitable motor?
> One thing I see easy to do is use two motors mated at shaft, one gets
> juice pumped through as usual, the other uses its brush commutator
> mechanism only for timing purposes to bring out the "reverse energy"
> and now the timing of the second set of brushes is easily adjusted in
> relation to the main motor getting the juice...now you can do the
> approx 5 degree delay like an echo I always talk about for people to
> try as to when the backemf/flyback/reverse energy connects to caps....
> The EYE configuration reminds me of rotovertor with run cap
> phase....maybe you are thinking very similar but dc motor and 3ph type
> and only run on two windings but bring out power with 3rd into caps
> like AC rotovertor and also fill same caps or others with the backemf/
> recoil/ flyback reverse energy as well??
> Kone
>

I wouldn't be to concerned about China because of there one child policy in
thirty years they will nothing .all they have is getting g old and no new
children to replace the work fource .not with any numbers no one to take
care of the old foke .unless they go full robotic there will be no work
force . another great idea from China no future no children like when moa
planted the corn 22 inchs dept and starved to death millions .

On Thursday, January 24, 2019, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Any DC pm motor !
>
>
>
> Try an small one first!  using WYE ring as shown voltage rating is V x 2
> current rating is I/2
>
> there are several options like using one pole or offset poles or extra .
>
> had told several times the delta setup self shunts dc motors not the WYE
> one. why built a Bedini
>
> motor if all DC motors can be turned to Newman , Bedini , and RV motors
> .....? why stay reworking useless shit time after time ? DC motor rotor
> cores are hi quality laminate else hysteresis burns them within working
> minutes in the crosscurrents ...
>
> there is no excuse ,. there are several ways to combine also the brush
> segments in invert shorting to create huge spikes using extra brushes ! (
> neutral spikes within rotor ) Read kelly on his never disclosed self
> running DC motor , fist disclosure it worked  in WYE  not delta , and 3
> brushes can be used to tap 3 phase DC pulsing power.
>
> ARK Ω © 1996, 2019   not for patent or public paper unless source quoted ,
> other rights apply
> not for sale or profit .
>
> (H)
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :
>
> Hi Hector
> Can you give bit.mote elaboration on this double brush WYE not DELTA dc
> motor simple modification?
> Some question;
> Is this a 3ph DC motor you are talking about? Like electric bike dc motor?
> And/or dc treadmill motor?
> DC stepper motor could this possibly work?
> Man you give abit.more info maybe link to suitable motor?
> One thing I see easy to do is use two motors mated at shaft, one gets
> juice pumped through as usual, the other uses its brush commutator
> mechanism only for timing purposes to bring out the "reverse energy" and
> now the timing of the second set of brushes is easily adjusted in relation
> to the main motor getting the juice...now you can do the approx 5 degree
> delay like an echo I always talk about for people to try as to when the
> backemf/flyback/reverse energy connects to caps....
> The EYE configuration reminds me of rotovertor with run cap phase....maybe
> you are thinking very similar but dc motor and 3ph type and only run on two
> windings but bring out power with 3rd into caps like AC rotovertor and also
> fill same caps or others with the backemf/ recoil/ flyback reverse energy
> as well??
> Kone
>
> 
>

When I spent some time in India . I felt the movement between the two . India/China. China has lifted the one child rule due to the aging pop.



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-------- Original message --------
From: "James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Date: 2019-01-24 3:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Gary Porter looper ready to bideo lnk



I wouldn't be to concerned about China because of there one child policy in thirty years they will nothing .all they have is getting g old and no new children to replace the work fource .not with any numbers no one to take care of the old foke .unless they go full robotic there will be no work force . another great idea from China no future no children like when moa planted the corn 22 inchs dept and starved to death millions .

On Thursday, January 24, 2019, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



Any DC pm motor !

[X][https://s.yimg.com/ok/u/assets/img/emoticons/emo31.gif]

Try an small one first!  using WYE ring as shown voltage rating is V x 2 current rating is I/2

there are several options like using one pole or offset poles or extra .

had told several times the delta setup self shunts dc motors not the WYE one. why built a Bedini

motor if all DC motors can be turned to Newman , Bedini , and RV motors .....? why stay reworking useless shit time after time ? DC motor rotor cores are hi quality laminate else hysteresis burns them within working minutes in the crosscurrents ...

there is no excuse ,. there are several ways to combine also the brush segments in invert shorting to create huge spikes using extra brushes ! ( neutral spikes within rotor ) Read kelly on his never disclosed self running DC motor , fist disclosure it worked  in WYE  not delta , and 3 brushes can be used to tap 3 phase DC pulsing power.

ARK Ω © 1996, 2019   not for patent or public paper unless source quoted , other rights apply
not for sale or profit .

(H)


---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <konehead@...> wrote :

Hi Hector
Can you give bit.mote elaboration on this double brush WYE not DELTA dc motor simple modification?
Some question;
Is this a 3ph DC motor you are talking about? Like electric bike dc motor?
And/or dc treadmill motor?
DC stepper motor could this possibly work?
Man you give abit.more info maybe link to suitable motor?
One thing I see easy to do is use two motors mated at shaft, one gets juice pumped through as usual, the other uses its brush commutator mechanism only for timing purposes to bring out the "reverse energy" and now the timing of the second set of brushes is easily adjusted in relation to the main motor getting the juice...now you can do the approx 5 degree delay like an echo I always talk about for people to try as to when the backemf/flyback/reverse energy connects to caps....
The EYE configuration reminds me of rotovertor with run cap phase....maybe you are thinking very similar but dc motor and 3ph type and only run on two windings but bring out power with 3rd into caps like AC rotovertor and also fill same caps or others with the backemf/ recoil/ flyback reverse energy as well??
Kone

India has 400 million unregistered civilians



Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.


-------- Original message --------
From: "James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Date: 2019-01-24 3:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Gary Porter looper ready to bideo lnk



I wouldn't be to concerned about China because of there one child policy in thirty years they will nothing .all they have is getting g old and no new children to replace the work fource .not with any numbers no one to take care of the old foke .unless they go full robotic there will be no work force . another great idea from China no future no children like when moa planted the corn 22 inchs dept and starved to death millions .

On Thursday, January 24, 2019, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



Any DC pm motor !

[X][https://s.yimg.com/ok/u/assets/img/emoticons/emo31.gif]

Try an small one first!  using WYE ring as shown voltage rating is V x 2 current rating is I/2

there are several options like using one pole or offset poles or extra .

had told several times the delta setup self shunts dc motors not the WYE one. why built a Bedini

motor if all DC motors can be turned to Newman , Bedini , and RV motors .....? why stay reworking useless shit time after time ? DC motor rotor cores are hi quality laminate else hysteresis burns them within working minutes in the crosscurrents ...

there is no excuse ,. there are several ways to combine also the brush segments in invert shorting to create huge spikes using extra brushes ! ( neutral spikes within rotor ) Read kelly on his never disclosed self running DC motor , fist disclosure it worked  in WYE  not delta , and 3 brushes can be used to tap 3 phase DC pulsing power.

ARK Ω © 1996, 2019   not for patent or public paper unless source quoted , other rights apply
not for sale or profit .

(H)


---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <konehead@...> wrote :

Hi Hector
Can you give bit.mote elaboration on this double brush WYE not DELTA dc motor simple modification?
Some question;
Is this a 3ph DC motor you are talking about? Like electric bike dc motor?
And/or dc treadmill motor?
DC stepper motor could this possibly work?
Man you give abit.more info maybe link to suitable motor?
One thing I see easy to do is use two motors mated at shaft, one gets juice pumped through as usual, the other uses its brush commutator mechanism only for timing purposes to bring out the "reverse energy" and now the timing of the second set of brushes is easily adjusted in relation to the main motor getting the juice...now you can do the approx 5 degree delay like an echo I always talk about for people to try as to when the backemf/flyback/reverse energy connects to caps....
The EYE configuration reminds me of rotovertor with run cap phase....maybe you are thinking very similar but dc motor and 3ph type and only run on two windings but bring out power with 3rd into caps like AC rotovertor and also fill same caps or others with the backemf/ recoil/ flyback reverse energy as well??
Kone