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Sometimes it is fun to go back in the archive and retrieve past dialog on subjects like Anti-gravity etc. Moray, I have several slides that will reveal more on the Counter Vortices Pair production and the Ionizing AG effects that occur. The magnetic lines re-connect phenomenon has opened the door to a lot of explanations. See: The interaction with the Aether via magnetic reconnect may not be the only connection. Time for some serious Grey Matter massage. Our dialog from 2017. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Slap the iron [1 Attachment] Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 01:06:07 -0400 From: Mbking42 <[email protected]> To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Norm, You see the pattern! Counter-rotating vortices, pair production, caduceus coils, magnetic lines recombination,... The vacuum manifests excess energy in counter-rotating pairs - conserves angular momentum. It can be done at the macroscopic level. -Moray -----Original Message----- From: Norman Wootan <[email protected]> To: Jerry Decker <[email protected]>; Mbking42 <[email protected]>; Toby Grotz <[email protected]>; EVGRAY <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Apr 2, 2017 9:25 am Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Slap the iron [1 Attachment] http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91463-Anti-Gravity-From-A-Bug-s-Wing-More-Than-Just-Possible "Please read all of this posting, "especially all the comments"! "All low pressure zones create natural vortices "pair production" in air as did we find in water cavitation". (Implosion vortex phenomenon) which produces a "plasma event"! "Hello Moray"!! Vortex "pair production" I documented in water cavitation! It has been documented (in wind tunnel) that vortices pair production occurs in an "activated boundary layer" on an airfoil. Moray, this is how the "aetheric energy" produces the anti-gravity effect in the "lift puzzle". Sure! at angle of attack we have Newton's Third Law in play along with the Bernoulli Theory but unseen is the contribution of the vortices pair production. As in water cavitation, so be it in air since both are "motive fluids"! On 3/31/2017 7:50 PM, Norman Wootan wrote: On 3/31/2017 7:40 PM, Norman Wootan wrote: On 3/31/2017 7:39 PM, Norman Wootan wrote: The answer is in the vortices that are generated As in tornadoes, ionization occurs at micro level! Schauberger's Repulsine device worked this way and produced AG effect! On 3/31/2017 7:18 PM, John Berry [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote: So someone had reason to think that it was a beetle that was the mystery insect and this is a close up of a structure that is uncovered and changes angle during flight: Inline image 1 I am not sure who found this and I forget the supporting details, but there is a good reason to think that's it, but now I am going to try and explain how and why it works. So we could sum this up as a bunch of cones shooting energy through circular holes. Ok, now I want to take what will seem like a funny unconnected turn and point out the work of James Cornwell: http://rexresearch.com/cornwell/cornwell.htm So he made a device that seems to disrupt electronics to a point that seem mysterious and the radiation passes through Faraday cages, so this is aetheric energy, we could say "radiant energy:. If we look at the design of his device, he uses a magnetron that is powered in an unbalanced manner (I would expect that to output aetheric energy), and then this radiation passed through transparent electropositive and electronegitive transparent windows. What I have found from my own research is that is what I term "neutral" aether energy passes through a transparent charged film, it is changed by that. Tesla made a radiant energy receiver which was a large plate covered in a special transparent coating. The wire in Edwin's tube are coated in Teflon which is the most strongly known electronegative material. I also want to point out this: http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/e-wall.html <A transparent force wall from highly charged moving cling film. So we want to send energy through a transparent material, but is there another way? Well it turns out you can make a window with aetheric energy, this can be done in either a cylinder, or a plane, if a cylinder and there is an aether vortex going on, the "ghost" of that cylinder rotates such that there is "energy" from the solid parts of the cylinder where the windows are. With a plane (flat surface not the 'aero type'), an aetheric radiation that occurs in the plane and focuses in the center. So, where is this window method used? Paul Baumann and Edwin Gray both used holes in cylinders and plates for this reason I believe, they condition energies that are emitted through the windows. But this is where we run into another group of devices. So there was this guy in this field who went by the handle DMBoss, he experimented with a discovery that others have researched which is an energy beam that occurs with magnets placed on tubes of noble gas, anyway he also did other experiments and while I forget all the details of the experiment, this one experiment he told me about, he had a large pancake coil with a hole in the middle and it was suspended, at some point with no conventional cause it just suddenly started swinging. It was a one off as such, but I will now explore several similar things! Next is Jeff Cook, he make a coil that while not quite a pancake as it is long as well as wide the effect still occurs, it also has the kind of asymmetry that effects the aether, this was given an impulse of power that could apparently bend flames, and when Tim Ventura of the site "American Antigravity" tested it, this thing sent out a beam that killed the piezo starters in a distant gas cook top. Basically gravity like impulses occurred. Next, is Ronald Stiffler who made a device that created an impulse that moved bits of paper and might have bent a laser beam a bit, it consisted of one large and one smaller iron toroid wrapped in a copper coil. Again there is asymmetry and the larger fatter toroid is again very thick. Next is Morton L. Morton, he made a series of experiment where a Van de Graff is induced somehow to discharge through a glass tube to a large aluminium plate with a hole in the center, this caused the emission of a repulsive or attractive force depending on finer details. Next is Podkletnov who after his spinning superconductor success did a seriously suped up version of the Morton experiment, his impulses were incomparably stronger, the details are more exotic but the structure is similar to a combo of Morton, Stiffler and Jeff Cook's device. Next is Howard Menger, I will describe a hybrid device that is a combo of his early experiment and his later experiment for simplicity, take a large circular aluminium disk with a hole in the center, put a carbon rod wrapped with a copper coil around the rod, apply a pulse from a battery (a modest 1.5v cell from a flash light). This resulted in a huge thrusting up of the aluminium plate that broke through his ceiling. He actually could not fully replicate his early success without making a seriously more built up version which involved more coils and more power, but he was apparently able to replicate the results to create an antigravity craft. Next, we will change thing a bit and look at the "capwarp": http://amasci.com/caps/capwarp.html This device creates a thrust, it was replicated successfully by 2-3 people, one using the pages of a book as the dielectric and pasting tin coil circles and connecting strips on the pages. Each layer again influences the space through the center, flow through the center happens due to both a rotational effect that occurs and possible having a positive on one end and negative on the other. Next is Doyle, this was in the Rex Research paper infolios but not online I don't think, it was a large circular capacitor that lost weight, no matter if the positive or negative was up. it was just a science fare project. He used Styrofoam as the dielectric. Ok, so now have you watched the "fluxliner" documentary? If not I HIGHLY recommend it! The construction there and this is an "Alien Reproduction Vehicle" is a large capacitor the size of the saucer craft, the capacitor is in segments like the cap warp with a hole in the middle, it also has a coil the energy also goes through. Glass dielectric. The guy who made the documentary was assassinated, but in another version some report to have seen an extra detail given, about a guy in university who made a circular HV capacitor with glass dielectric, it lost all weight. I myself can vouch that this segmented approach is powerful. If we look at moving through the center of such a capacitor, we would see a series of positive and negative planes (plates), alternating positive negative. Much like Cornwell's transparent windows! In addition while a plane creates a much stronger energy that just a ring, Hamel and Searl and even Otis T. Car would qualify, Searl has 3 concentric rings in the same plane, and Hamel as 2 concentric rings but stacked 3 in series and another large ring magnet below that. To some extent all you need is a circle (a loop), it's just that the more you have the more extreme the "window". The biggest question is how the different types of "window" change the effects of the energy that goes through, a capacitor and a coil or a neutral object are all very different and likely relate to different effects on the energy that goes through the window. Also my theory is that the window is about picking up energies or qualities, but it is possible that it is about filtering out energies or qualities, or about changing energies of what moves through it. But I think this is the basis of the bugs secret, and a powerful secret of aetheric energy, this allows energy to be variously conditioned. John John Berry On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: John! I would love to read your ideas and theory and will also share my ideas as to how "flight" actually works. I'm 79 now and have been at this since my childhood since I grew up around aircraft. My Dad had two and I would wash airplanes just for a ride. (Late 40s). Norm On 3/31/2017 2:43 PM, John Berry [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote: Norm, yes I know. And I think I know what was going on with the insects, I think I might know the shape and how it worked. I can write it up, but I just need to know you want to read it, It might be a little long, it makes a decent case. John John Berry On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: John! regarding the "shimmer/invisibility", see this: Viktor Stepanovich Grebennikov --- naturalist and a professional entomologist. He is also an artist and an intellectual with a wide range of interests and pursuits. He is known to many as the discoverer of the Cavity Structures Effect (CSE). But very few people are familiar with his other discovery, the one that also borrows from Nature and its innermost secrets. He has discovered antigravitational effects of the chitin shell of certain insects back in 1988 but, the most impressive concomitant phenomenon he has discovered at the same time was that of complete or partial invisibility and/or of distorted perception of material objects entering the zone of compensated gravity. Based on this discovery, Victor Grebennikov used bionic principles to design and build an anti-gravitational platform for hovering flights at the speeds of up to 25 km/min. Since 1991-92 he has used this device for his own fast transportation. "Zone of compensated gravity"???? On 3/28/2017 7:24 PM, John Berry [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote: Ok, I'll keep each account down to it's bare bone details. It is of course worth noting that none of this stuff has stellar evidence, you either believe the account or you don't, it is only in the consistency that a real degree of credibility arises. Big generator, suddenly unloaded. A report I heard from a guy who heard it from a guy, in a power station a generator, I want to say it was a Westinghouse, when it was pulled offline suddenly (but it's still generating) it began to shimmer and disappear, apparently it had been seen before but it wasn't talked about. An account on Keelynet, hmmm, I just realized I included this one under accounts of invisibility of iron, but it was iron that made non-iron this disappear anyway this guy who "Knew what he was doing" stole 5 large transformers, put them in a circle, put a goat and other things to test it out, they disappeared, then he got in the circle and disappeared. Ok, this one now I think about it is also "different", an account that I heard in connection to another account actually, but it involved a guy who on trying to conduct electricity through a gel with iron particles found himself displaced in time or something, I think it was mentioned in connection with another account I didn't include in my count of a "Joe Cell" like device (Proton Cell) that was powerd by an inusual generator and possible a spark gap, and this cell made for some displacements in time also. I now forget the guys name, but on the Art Bell radio show, a guy rang in and rang back a few times I think (not sure I listened first hand to much of it), he wound a high voltage transformer like an NST, and when he threw (I assume steel) screws near the HV arc they would vanish. Screws have a right handed helix, so that should attract the electron type energy. The transformer he specified was "scramble wound" not neatly wound, i have found such winding's especially if the degree of chaos varies (starts neat, gets messy) to create a lot of aetheric energy, and they can pull energy in too, perhaps from the spark gap creating a feedback cycle of aetheric energy. William Beaty's weird science site has had feedback from people who have got weird results from experiments, one tells about a guy took some amplifier or something, hooked it up to a steel loop (the kind that would come with rabbit ears something, with 90 degree bends leading into and out of the loop (which I have found to be a powerful aetheric effect if the 2 sides are imbalanced somehow), into which he dangled a paper clip on cotton, the paper clip vanished and when he reversed the connection to the loop it re-appeared. In might have been enveloped in a blue glow? (if you look you will find the account) I had a friend in Canada, I think he said that he witnessed this, or maybe it happened to his friends, they took a steel coat hanger and shorted out a car battery, it turned red, then white, then started to shimmer and vanish. You know Rex Research, well there was another group in New Zealand (maybe it was Australia) called Lost Tech Archives IIRC, I never bought any of their stuff (this was back before Rex Research put stuff online for free) as I had opted out of paying any money for more info but some stuff I got for free, or was it the catalog? Or a free first copy? Well one of the things was a newspaper clipping of a guy who way way back, I'm going to guess the 50's at the earliest, who had a suit with steel coils that made him invisible. Another thing they also had was a guy who made a vacuum tube device that created rays that caused things to lose weight. In Gerry Vassalito's 2 books on Tesla and cold wars secrets, he talk about how arc welders would find steel tools vanish, and finally they realized that emissions from the arcs were doing this. This was probably peculiar to the technology used in the day. As William Lyne points out in his again, 2 books, welding with Hydrogen used to be a thing and it was very overunity. While I guess this was not that, such "features" tend to get removed over time. But there is an account of a guy welding a Pyramid and hit levitated. There are accounts of the steel components in the Pharnsworth Fusor sometimes turning transparent or becoming invisible. There are accounts of steel components in more regular vacuum tubes sometimes becoming invisible (still working, so they were still there). There is an account of a transformer made with steel tube, not laminate, that was made in the form of a bike so that it could be ridden, it would cause the transformer and the rider (or just the rider?) to begin to vanish and to come back babbling about what he saw. There is also an account from Davis and Rawls of treating the Pineal with a magnet, but this is assumed to have only resulted in seeing things dissolve in a "3rd eye" kind of way. Finally, there is an account that I have a document on somewhere, a guy made a device, he used copper wire from an old telephone transmission transformer (I have no idea if there is such a thing, but that's what I recall), he had 3 steel cores which he wound bucking electromagnetic poles on, I think he energized them in a circular manner so as to create a rotating field, but I'm not sure, but he did have the frequency increase gradually as it ran, at some point objects put in the center would disappear, he could make them reappear also. I think the document might have had a shot at what frequency might have been used. So, we have multiple accounts then suggesting that there are a lot of ways that steel can be treated that makes it eventually "wig out' and disappear, sometimes coming back, sometimes not seemingly the object remains in the same space and can be returned by reversing the process, in other case not powering it anymore seems enough (probably in cases where the item is connected to circuitry that has not vanished, grounding the energy). Oh, it's not iron, but there is also an account of paper thin gold becoming transparent when heated, both this and the "regular vacuum tube" account above were mentioned by someone on BBill eaty's Vortex discussion list. Oh, and as for the space warping one, that is a claim by Stan Deyo, he had an iron ring which he created multi axis rotating iron atoms (hmmm, does that sound like it could describe a helix?) by pulsing 3 coils on different axis at a special frequency at a special phase relationship, this caused space to bend in toward the device for a moment at which point it would do nothing else, not that device and even a newly built device in that spot would not work, as if the device was now "full" and had sucked the relevant energy from the space around it. But a new one in a new spot would agian work once apparently. So the note I made to myself based on all of this is that the iron can be energized a number of ways. The effects I notices were: Spark gap discharge <This featured prominently, the vacuum tube is also a similar kind of "current across a gap", I guess to strech a point the gap in the outer ring of the paperclip vanishing device could also count. Current through the iron, let me see, if the output coils are not loaded suddenly, then the core losses increase (as the magnetic field is unopposed by the generator coils) which includes induction of currrent, so this could apply to the first one, perhaps the second one as some transformers are made to only work loaded and unloaded will draw too much current, conducting current through iron particles in a gel, Yup. Also that would go for the "extra" account about similar effects from the Joe/Proton cell. It might apply to the home-made HV transformer, no idea what kind of core he used.or if he had enough primary turns to keep it from drawing too much current thereby inducing excess inductive losses. Paper clip account, Yup, current through loop. My old (actually young at the time) friend in Canada, YUP! Lost Tech Archives paper clipping of a jacket made with steel coils which, yes, were electrified, so YUP! Pharnsworth Fusor? Maybe a little as it was electrified to a high voltage and that was lost to the gas in ionization, Regular Vacuum Tubes? Probably. Steel Tube ride-on Transformer? You bet! Rising freq. device with bucking electromagnets? Possibly. As for the the account from Gerry Vassilitos, while current is assumed not to be passing through the steel objects that vanished, it would have been likely passing through the things being welded, so probably Yes! Voltage: Probably not required, only ones with propperly HV is Pharnsworth and the HV transformer. Saturation: Possible in a number of the cases, but not all, not by a long way. Physical stress: Maybe in some, but not a major component. Hysteresis: I think this could be a big help but it's not present in anything but the more transformer/generator type examples High frequency??? In only a few of the cases. If Norm's Buzzer is just a steel rod as I understand it to be, it too would have had this "induction in the core" going on! Both eddy currents and Hysteresis and it's directly electrically connected and has a "spark gap" or sorts (mechanical switches do spark :) ). But I think that overall, the arc welding and the HV transformer with screws thrown at it and the several with circles of steel and things vanishing in the middle point to the effect being aetheric, the steel is just good at containing the aetheric energy, and when it is contained then things "done" to the steel tend to convert that energy, weather it is mechanical stress such as a buzzer or hysteresis or ohmic resistance into more aetheric energy to the point, a runaway feedback effect. Merely having losses in iron probably won't do anything if the aether is not already involved. John John Berry On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: John, I am very interested in dimensional shifts and their causes. Anything you might provide based on these cases you mention would be compelling. Thanks, Mick On 3/28/2017 2:39 PM, John Berry [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote: I wish you had not brought up the subject of pure Iron, I just looked into it and it is EXPENSIVE well I don't know what that powder costs, but a single 10cm 2mm dia iron rod is a couple hundred bucks if you want pure. Anything cheap has no purity figures, well could be anything. Of course while pure iron might be better, the evidence for iron being awesome points to it not needing to be pure. Looking at all the evidence I have for iron, I think that the number of ways it can be used are numerous, just considering invisibility, in some accounts it is near a spark gap, in other accounts current runs through it, in some accounts there are saturating magnetic fields but in other accounts there aren't. In some accounts there is HV, in other accounts there is not, but all the accounts I am thinking of the iron got so charged with energy it began to vanish. I can think of at least 10 such accounts, and a 11th where is seemed to warp space instead of vanish! And that's without counting the Philadelphia experiment which is meant to have vanished because of the iron in the ship. And that's not counting another where steel was used to make things vanish but it wasn't the steel that vanished, but that should probably be counted also. If you want I can go over the claims in each case, but that's a lot of evidence that Iron can do some interesting things! So while there might be ways to get the iron to produce energy, I think the key is that much as with the locked rotor and MRA tests, energy (aetheric) can be built up to a very high level in iron no matter where it comes from. And if this energy is expelled all at once, look out! Incidentally I found a form that is very effective at keeping energy in, condensing. I don't know if this suits the iron subject, but it might. Inline image 1 This was arrived at by experimentation and I'm not sure if I have an explanation it would do full justice. Again if you are willing to try and do something as out there as feel energy from a screen, this is a good one to try. John John Berry On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 3:51 AM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: one word (Gravity) every particle is a transform engine ... (H)
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12,000 # semi trailer suspended in air along with several others in flight OUTSIDE of tornado vortex in peripheral ionization region. On 1/7/2019 6:01 AM, Norman Wootan wrote: > > Sometimes it is fun to go back in the archive and retrieve past dialog > on subjects like Anti-gravity etc. > > Moray, I have several slides that will reveal more on the Counter > Vortices Pair production and the Ionizing AG effects that occur. The > magnetic lines re-connect phenomenon has opened the door to a lot of > explanations. > > See: > > The interaction with the Aether via magnetic reconnect may not be the > only connection. Time for some serious Grey Matter massage. > > Our dialog from 2017. > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Slap the iron [1 Attachment] > Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 01:06:07 -0400 > From: Mbking42 <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected] > > > > Norm, > You see the pattern! > Counter-rotating vortices, pair production, caduceus coils, magnetic > lines recombination,... > > The vacuum manifests excess energy in counter-rotating pairs - > conserves angular momentum. > It can be done at the macroscopic level. > > -Moray > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Norman Wootan <[email protected]> > To: Jerry Decker <[email protected]>; Mbking42 <[email protected]>; > Toby Grotz <[email protected]>; EVGRAY <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, Apr 2, 2017 9:25 am > Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Slap the iron [1 Attachment] > > http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91463-Anti-Gravity-From-A-Bug-s-Wing-More-Than-Just-Possible > "Please read all of this posting, "especially all the comments"! > "All low pressure zones create natural vortices "pair production" in > air as did we find in water cavitation". (Implosion vortex > phenomenon) which produces a "plasma event"! "Hello Moray"!! > Vortex "pair production" I documented in water cavitation! > It has been documented (in wind tunnel) that vortices pair production > occurs in an "activated boundary layer" on an airfoil. Moray, this is > how the "aetheric energy" produces the anti-gravity effect in the > "lift puzzle". Sure! at angle of attack we have Newton's Third Law in > play along with the Bernoulli Theory but unseen is the contribution of > the vortices pair production. As in water cavitation, so be it in air > since both are "motive fluids"! > > > On 3/31/2017 7:50 PM, Norman Wootan wrote: > > > On 3/31/2017 7:40 PM, Norman Wootan wrote: > > > On 3/31/2017 7:39 PM, Norman Wootan wrote: > > The answer is in the vortices that are generated As in > tornadoes, ionization occurs at micro level! Schauberger's > Repulsine device worked this way and produced AG effect! > > On 3/31/2017 7:18 PM, John Berry [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote: > > So someone had reason to think that it was a beetle > that was the mystery insect and this is a close up of > a structure that is uncovered and changes angle during > flight: > Inline image 1 > I am not sure who found this and I forget the > supporting details, but there is a good reason to > think that's it, but now I am going to try and explain > how and why it works. > So we could sum this up as a bunch of cones shooting > energy through circular holes. > > Ok, now I want to take what will seem like a funny > unconnected turn and point out the work of James Cornwell: > http://rexresearch.com/cornwell/cornwell.htm > > So he made a device that seems to disrupt electronics > to a point that seem mysterious and the radiation > passes through Faraday cages, so this is aetheric > energy, we could say "radiant energy:. > > If we look at the design of his device, he uses a > magnetron that is powered in an unbalanced manner (I > would expect that to output aetheric energy), and then > this radiation passed through transparent > electropositive and electronegitive transparent > windows. What I have found from my own research is > that is what I term "neutral" aether energy passes > through a transparent charged film, it is changed by that. > Tesla made a radiant energy receiver which was a large > plate covered in a special transparent coating. > > The wire in Edwin's tube are coated in Teflon which is > the most strongly known electronegative material. > I also want to point out this: > http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/e-wall.html <A > transparent force wall from highly charged moving > cling film. > > So we want to send energy through a transparent > material, but is there another way? > > Well it turns out you can make a window with aetheric > energy, this can be done in either a cylinder, or a > plane, if a cylinder and there is an aether vortex > going on, the "ghost" of that cylinder rotates such > that there is "energy" from the solid parts of the > cylinder where the windows are. > With a plane (flat surface not the 'aero type'), an > aetheric radiation that occurs in the plane and > focuses in the center. > > So, where is this window method used? > > Paul Baumann and Edwin Gray both used holes in > cylinders and plates for this reason I believe, they > condition energies that are emitted through the windows. > > But this is where we run into another group of devices. > > So there was this guy in this field who went by the > handle DMBoss, he experimented with a discovery that > others have researched which is an energy beam that > occurs with magnets placed on tubes of noble gas, > anyway he also did other experiments and while I > forget all the details of the experiment, this one > experiment he told me about, he had a large pancake > coil with a hole in the middle and it was suspended, > at some point with no conventional cause it just > suddenly started swinging. It was a one off as such, > but I will now explore several similar things! > > Next is Jeff Cook, he make a coil that while not quite > a pancake as it is long as well as wide the effect > still occurs, it also has the kind of asymmetry that > effects the aether, this was given an impulse of power > that could apparently bend flames, and when Tim > Ventura of the site "American Antigravity" tested it, > this thing sent out a beam that killed the piezo > starters in a distant gas cook top. Basically gravity > like impulses occurred. > > Next, is Ronald Stiffler who made a device that > created an impulse that moved bits of paper and might > have bent a laser beam a bit, it consisted of one > large and one smaller iron toroid wrapped in a copper > coil. Again there is asymmetry and the larger fatter > toroid is again very thick. > > Next is Morton L. Morton, he made a series of > experiment where a Van de Graff is induced somehow to > discharge through a glass tube to a large aluminium > plate with a hole in the center, this caused the > emission of a repulsive or attractive force depending > on finer details. > > Next is Podkletnov who after his spinning > superconductor success did a seriously suped up > version of the Morton experiment, his impulses were > incomparably stronger, the details are more exotic but > the structure is similar to a combo of Morton, > Stiffler and Jeff Cook's device. > > Next is Howard Menger, I will describe a hybrid device > that is a combo of his early experiment and his later > experiment for simplicity, take a large circular > aluminium disk with a hole in the center, put a carbon > rod wrapped with a copper coil around the rod, apply a > pulse from a battery (a modest 1.5v cell from a flash > light). This resulted in a huge thrusting up of the > aluminium plate that broke through his ceiling. > He actually could not fully replicate his early > success without making a seriously more built up > version which involved more coils and more power, but > he was apparently able to replicate the results to > create an antigravity craft. > > Next, we will change thing a bit and look at the > "capwarp": http://amasci.com/caps/capwarp.html > This device creates a thrust, it was replicated > successfully by 2-3 people, one using the pages of a > book as the dielectric and pasting tin coil circles > and connecting strips on the pages. Each layer again > influences the space through the center, flow through > the center happens due to both a rotational effect > that occurs and possible having a positive on one end > and negative on the other. > > Next is Doyle, this was in the Rex Research paper > infolios but not online I don't think, it was a large > circular capacitor that lost weight, no matter if the > positive or negative was up. it was just a science > fare project. He used Styrofoam as the dielectric. > > Ok, so now have you watched the "fluxliner" > documentary? If not I HIGHLY recommend it! > The construction there and this is an "Alien > Reproduction Vehicle" is a large capacitor the size of > the saucer craft, the capacitor is in segments like > the cap warp with a hole in the middle, it also has a > coil the energy also goes through. Glass dielectric. > > The guy who made the documentary was assassinated, but > in another version some report to have seen an extra > detail given, about a guy in university who made a > circular HV capacitor with glass dielectric, it lost > all weight. > > I myself can vouch that this segmented approach is > powerful. > > If we look at moving through the center of such a > capacitor, we would see a series of positive and > negative planes (plates), alternating positive > negative. Much like Cornwell's transparent windows! > In addition while a plane creates a much stronger > energy that just a ring, Hamel and Searl and even Otis > T. Car would qualify, Searl has 3 concentric rings in > the same plane, and Hamel as 2 concentric rings but > stacked 3 in series and another large ring magnet > below that. > > To some extent all you need is a circle (a loop), it's > just that the more you have the more extreme the "window". > > The biggest question is how the different types of > "window" change the effects of the energy that goes > through, a capacitor and a coil or a neutral object > are all very different and likely relate to different > effects on the energy that goes through the window. > > Also my theory is that the window is about picking up > energies or qualities, but it is possible that it is > about filtering out energies or qualities, or about > changing energies of what moves through it. > > But I think this is the basis of the bugs secret, and > a powerful secret of aetheric energy, this allows > energy to be variously conditioned. > > John > > > > > > > > > > John Berry > > On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Norman Wootan > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > John! I would love to read your ideas and theory > and will also share my ideas as to how "flight" > actually works. I'm 79 now and have been at this > since my childhood since I grew up around > aircraft. My Dad had two and I would wash > airplanes just for a ride. (Late 40s). Norm > > On 3/31/2017 2:43 PM, John Berry > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote: > > Norm, yes I know. > > And I think I know what was going on with the > insects, I think I might know the shape and > how it worked. > > I can write it up, but I just need to know you > want to read it, It might be a little long, > it makes a decent case. > > John > > John Berry > > On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Norman Wootan > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > [EVGRAY] <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > John! regarding the > "shimmer/invisibility", see this: Viktor > Stepanovich Grebennikov --- naturalist and > a professional entomologist. He is also an > artist and an intellectual with a wide > range of interests and pursuits. He is > known to many as the discoverer of the > Cavity Structures Effect (CSE). But very > few people are familiar with his other > discovery, the one that also borrows from > Nature and its innermost secrets. He has > discovered antigravitational effects of > the chitin shell of certain insects back > in 1988 but, the most impressive > concomitant phenomenon he has discovered > at the same time was that of complete or > partial invisibility and/or of distorted > perception of material objects entering > the zone of compensated gravity. Based on > this discovery, Victor Grebennikov used > bionic principles to design and build an > anti-gravitational platform for hovering > flights at the speeds of up to 25 km/min. > Since 1991-92 he has used this device for > his own fast transportation. > "Zone of compensated gravity"???? > > On 3/28/2017 7:24 PM, John Berry > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] > wrote: > > Ok, I'll keep each account down to > it's bare bone details. It is of > course worth noting that none of this > stuff has stellar evidence, you either > believe the account or you don't, it > is only in the consistency that a real > degree of credibility arises. > > Big generator, suddenly unloaded. A > report I heard from a guy who heard it > from a guy, in a power station a > generator, I want to say it was a > Westinghouse, when it was pulled > offline suddenly (but it's still > generating) it began to shimmer and > disappear, apparently it had been seen > before but it wasn't talked about. > > An account on Keelynet, hmmm, I just > realized I included this one under > accounts of invisibility of iron, but > it was iron that made non-iron this > disappear anyway this guy who "Knew > what he was doing" stole 5 large > transformers, put them in a circle, > put a goat and other things to test it > out, they disappeared, then he got in > the circle and disappeared. > > Ok, this one now I think about it is > also "different", an account that I > heard in connection to another account > actually, but it involved a guy who on > trying to conduct electricity through > a gel with iron particles found > himself displaced in time or > something, I think it was mentioned in > connection with another account I > didn't include in my count of a "Joe > Cell" like device (Proton Cell) that > was powerd by an inusual generator and > possible a spark gap, and this cell > made for some displacements in time also. > > I now forget the guys name, but on the > Art Bell radio show, a guy rang in and > rang back a few times I think (not > sure I listened first hand to much of > it), he wound a high voltage > transformer like an NST, and when he > threw (I assume steel) screws near the > HV arc they would vanish. Screws have > a right handed helix, so that should > attract the electron type energy. The > transformer he specified was "scramble > wound" not neatly wound, i have found > such winding's especially if the > degree of chaos varies (starts neat, > gets messy) to create a lot of > aetheric energy, and they can pull > energy in too, perhaps from the spark > gap creating a feedback cycle of > aetheric energy. > > William Beaty's weird science site has > had feedback from people who have got > weird results from experiments, one > tells about a guy took some amplifier > or something, hooked it up to a steel > loop (the kind that would come with > rabbit ears something, with 90 degree > bends leading into and out of the loop > (which I have found to be a powerful > aetheric effect if the 2 sides are > imbalanced somehow), into which he > dangled a paper clip on cotton, the > paper clip vanished and when he > reversed the connection to the loop it > re-appeared. In might have been > enveloped in a blue glow? (if you > look you will find the account) > > I had a friend in Canada, I think he > said that he witnessed this, or maybe > it happened to his friends, they took > a steel coat hanger and shorted out a > car battery, it turned red, then > white, then started to shimmer and vanish. > > You know Rex Research, well there was > another group in New Zealand (maybe it > was Australia) called Lost Tech > Archives IIRC, I never bought any of > their stuff (this was back before Rex > Research put stuff online for free) as > I had opted out of paying any money > for more info but some stuff I got for > free, or was it the catalog? Or a > free first copy? Well one of the > things was a newspaper clipping of a > guy who way way back, I'm going to > guess the 50's at the earliest, who > had a suit with steel coils that made > him invisible. Another thing they also > had was a guy who made a vacuum tube > device that created rays that caused > things to lose weight. > > In Gerry Vassalito's 2 books on Tesla > and cold wars secrets, he talk about > how arc welders would find steel tools > vanish, and finally they realized that > emissions from the arcs were doing > this. This was probably peculiar to > the technology used in the day. As > William Lyne points out in his again, > 2 books, welding with Hydrogen used to > be a thing and it was very overunity. > While I guess this was not that, such > "features" tend to get removed over > time. But there is an account of a > guy welding a Pyramid and hit levitated. > > There are accounts of the steel > components in the Pharnsworth Fusor > sometimes turning transparent or > becoming invisible. > > There are accounts of steel components > in more regular vacuum tubes sometimes > becoming invisible (still working, so > they were still there). > > There is an account of a transformer > made with steel tube, not laminate, > that was made in the form of a bike so > that it could be ridden, it would > cause the transformer and the rider > (or just the rider?) to begin to > vanish and to come back babbling about > what he saw. There is also an account > from Davis and Rawls of treating the > Pineal with a magnet, but this is > assumed to have only resulted in > seeing things dissolve in a "3rd eye" > kind of way. > > Finally, there is an account that I > have a document on somewhere, a guy > made a device, he used copper wire > from an old telephone transmission > transformer (I have no idea if there > is such a thing, but that's what I > recall), he had 3 steel cores which he > wound bucking electromagnetic poles > on, I think he energized them in a > circular manner so as to create a > rotating field, but I'm not sure, but > he did have the frequency increase > gradually as it ran, at some point > objects put in the center would > disappear, he could make them reappear > also. I think the document might have > had a shot at what frequency might > have been used. > > So, we have multiple accounts then > suggesting that there are a lot of > ways that steel can be treated that > makes it eventually "wig out' and > disappear, sometimes coming back, > sometimes not seemingly the object > remains in the same space and can be > returned by reversing the process, in > other case not powering it anymore > seems enough (probably in cases where > the item is connected to circuitry > that has not vanished, grounding the > energy). > > Oh, it's not iron, but there is also > an account of paper thin gold becoming > transparent when heated, both this and > the "regular vacuum tube" account > above were mentioned by someone on > BBill eaty's Vortex discussion list. > > Oh, and as for the space warping one, > that is a claim by Stan Deyo, he had > an iron ring which he created multi > axis rotating iron atoms (hmmm, does > that sound like it could describe a > helix?) by pulsing 3 coils on > different axis at a special frequency > at a special phase relationship, this > caused space to bend in toward the > device for a moment at which point it > would do nothing else, not that device > and even a newly built device in that > spot would not work, as if the device > was now "full" and had sucked the > relevant energy from the space around > it. But a new one in a new spot would > agian work once apparently. > > So the note I made to myself based on > all of this is that the iron can be > energized a number of ways. > > The effects I notices were: > > Spark gap discharge <This featured > prominently, the vacuum tube is also a > similar kind of "current across a > gap", I guess to strech a point the > gap in the outer ring of the paperclip > vanishing device could also count. > > Current through the iron, let me see, > if the output coils are not loaded > suddenly, then the core losses > increase (as the magnetic field is > unopposed by the generator coils) > which includes induction of currrent, > so this could apply to the first one, > perhaps the second one as some > transformers are made to only work > loaded and unloaded will draw too much > current, conducting current through > iron particles in a gel, Yup. Also > that would go for the "extra" account > about similar effects from the > Joe/Proton cell. It might apply to > the home-made HV transformer, no idea > what kind of core he used.or if he had > enough primary turns to keep it from > drawing too much current thereby > inducing excess inductive losses. > Paper clip account, Yup, current > through loop. My old (actually young > at the time) friend in Canada, YUP! > Lost Tech Archives paper clipping of a > jacket made with steel coils which, > yes, were electrified, so YUP! > Pharnsworth Fusor? Maybe a little as > it was electrified to a high voltage > and that was lost to the gas in > ionization, Regular Vacuum Tubes? > Probably. Steel Tube ride-on > Transformer? You bet! Rising freq. > device with bucking electromagnets? > Possibly. As for the the account from > Gerry Vassilitos, while current is > assumed not to be passing through the > steel objects that vanished, it would > have been likely passing through the > things being welded, so probably Yes! > > Voltage: Probably not required, only > ones with propperly HV is Pharnsworth > and the HV transformer. > > Saturation: Possible in a number of > the cases, but not all, not by a long way. > > Physical stress: Maybe in some, but > not a major component. > > Hysteresis: I think this could be a > big help but it's not present in > anything but the more > transformer/generator type examples > > High frequency??? In only a few of the > cases. > > If Norm's Buzzer is just a steel rod > as I understand it to be, it too would > have had this "induction in the core" > going on! > Both eddy currents and Hysteresis and > it's directly electrically connected > and has a "spark gap" or sorts > (mechanical switches do spark :) ). > > But I think that overall, the arc > welding and the HV transformer with > screws thrown at it and the several > with circles of steel and things > vanishing in the middle point to the > effect being aetheric, the steel is > just good at containing the aetheric > energy, and when it is contained then > things "done" to the steel tend to > convert that energy, weather it is > mechanical stress such as a buzzer or > hysteresis or ohmic resistance into > more aetheric energy to the point, a > runaway feedback effect. Merely having > losses in iron probably won't do > anything if the aether is not already > involved. > > John > > > > > John Berry > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Mick > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > John, > > I am very interested in > dimensional shifts and their > causes. Anything you might provide > based on these cases you mention > would be compelling. > > Thanks, > Mick > > On 3/28/2017 2:39 PM, John Berry > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > [EVGRAY] wrote: > > I wish you had not brought up > the subject of pure Iron, I > just looked into it and it is > EXPENSIVE well I don't know > what that powder costs, but a > single 10cm 2mm dia iron rod > is a couple hundred bucks if > you want pure. > > Anything cheap has no purity > figures, well could be anything. > > Of course while pure iron > might be better, the evidence > for iron being awesome points > to it not needing to be pure. > > Looking at all the evidence I > have for iron, I think that > the number of ways it can be > used are numerous, just > considering invisibility, in > some accounts it is near a > spark gap, in other accounts > current runs through it, in > some accounts there are > saturating magnetic fields but > in other accounts there > aren't. In some accounts there > is HV, in other accounts there > is not, but all the accounts I > am thinking of the iron got so > charged with energy it began > to vanish. > I can think of at least 10 > such accounts, and a 11th > where is seemed to warp space > instead of vanish! > And that's without counting > the Philadelphia experiment > which is meant to have > vanished because of the iron > in the ship. > And that's not counting > another where steel was used > to make things vanish but it > wasn't the steel that > vanished, but that should > probably be counted also. > > If you want I can go over the > claims in each case, but > that's a lot of evidence that > Iron can do some interesting > things! > > So while there might be ways > to get the iron to produce > energy, I think the key is > that much as with the locked > rotor and MRA tests, energy > (aetheric) can be built up to > a very high level in iron no > matter where it comes from. > > And if this energy is expelled > all at once, look out! > > Incidentally I found a form > that is very effective at > keeping energy in, > condensing. I don't know if > this suits the iron subject, > but it might. > > Inline image 1 > > This was arrived at by > experimentation and I'm not > sure if I have an explanation > it would do full justice. > Again if you are willing to > try and do something as out > there as feel energy from a > screen, this is a good one to try. > > John > > > > John Berry > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 3:51 > AM, [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > [EVGRAY] > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > one word (Gravity) > > every particle is a > transform engine ... > > > > (H) > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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