Body
12,000 # semi trailer suspended in air along with several others in
flight OUTSIDE of tornado vortex in peripheral ionization region.
On 1/7/2019 6:01 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Sometimes it is fun to go back in the archive and retrieve past dialog
> on subjects like Anti-gravity etc.
>
> Moray, I have several slides that will reveal more on the Counter
> Vortices Pair production and the Ionizing AG effects that occur. The
> magnetic lines re-connect phenomenon has opened the door to a lot of
> explanations.
>
> See:
>
> The interaction with the Aether via magnetic reconnect may not be the
> only connection. Time for some serious Grey Matter massage.
>
> Our dialog from 2017.
>
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Slap the iron [1 Attachment]
> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 01:06:07 -0400
> From: Mbking42 <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> Norm,
> You see the pattern!
> Counter-rotating vortices, pair production, caduceus coils, magnetic
> lines recombination,...
>
> The vacuum manifests excess energy in counter-rotating pairs -
> conserves angular momentum.
> It can be done at the macroscopic level.
>
> -Moray
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Norman Wootan <[email protected]>
> To: Jerry Decker <[email protected]>; Mbking42 <[email protected]>;
> Toby Grotz <[email protected]>; EVGRAY <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sun, Apr 2, 2017 9:25 am
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Slap the iron [1 Attachment]
>
> http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91463-Anti-Gravity-From-A-Bug-s-Wing-More-Than-Just-Possible
> "Please read all of this posting, "especially all the comments"!
> "All low pressure zones create natural vortices "pair production" in
> air as did we find in water cavitation". (Implosion vortex
> phenomenon) which produces a "plasma event"! "Hello Moray"!!
> Vortex "pair production" I documented in water cavitation!
> It has been documented (in wind tunnel) that vortices pair production
> occurs in an "activated boundary layer" on an airfoil. Moray, this is
> how the "aetheric energy" produces the anti-gravity effect in the
> "lift puzzle". Sure! at angle of attack we have Newton's Third Law in
> play along with the Bernoulli Theory but unseen is the contribution of
> the vortices pair production. As in water cavitation, so be it in air
> since both are "motive fluids"!
>
>
> On 3/31/2017 7:50 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
>
> On 3/31/2017 7:40 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
>
> On 3/31/2017 7:39 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> The answer is in the vortices that are generated As in
> tornadoes, ionization occurs at micro level! Schauberger's
> Repulsine device worked this way and produced AG effect!
>
> On 3/31/2017 7:18 PM, John Berry [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> So someone had reason to think that it was a beetle
> that was the mystery insect and this is a close up of
> a structure that is uncovered and changes angle during
> flight:
> Inline image 1
> I am not sure who found this and I forget the
> supporting details, but there is a good reason to
> think that's it, but now I am going to try and explain
> how and why it works.
> So we could sum this up as a bunch of cones shooting
> energy through circular holes.
>
> Ok, now I want to take what will seem like a funny
> unconnected turn and point out the work of James Cornwell:
> http://rexresearch.com/cornwell/cornwell.htm
>
> So he made a device that seems to disrupt electronics
> to a point that seem mysterious and the radiation
> passes through Faraday cages, so this is aetheric
> energy, we could say "radiant energy:.
>
> If we look at the design of his device, he uses a
> magnetron that is powered in an unbalanced manner (I
> would expect that to output aetheric energy), and then
> this radiation passed through transparent
> electropositive and electronegitive transparent
> windows. What I have found from my own research is
> that is what I term "neutral" aether energy passes
> through a transparent charged film, it is changed by that.
> Tesla made a radiant energy receiver which was a large
> plate covered in a special transparent coating.
>
> The wire in Edwin's tube are coated in Teflon which is
> the most strongly known electronegative material.
> I also want to point out this:
> http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/e-wall.html <A
> transparent force wall from highly charged moving
> cling film.
>
> So we want to send energy through a transparent
> material, but is there another way?
>
> Well it turns out you can make a window with aetheric
> energy, this can be done in either a cylinder, or a
> plane, if a cylinder and there is an aether vortex
> going on, the "ghost" of that cylinder rotates such
> that there is "energy" from the solid parts of the
> cylinder where the windows are.
> With a plane (flat surface not the 'aero type'), an
> aetheric radiation that occurs in the plane and
> focuses in the center.
>
> So, where is this window method used?
>
> Paul Baumann and Edwin Gray both used holes in
> cylinders and plates for this reason I believe, they
> condition energies that are emitted through the windows.
>
> But this is where we run into another group of devices.
>
> So there was this guy in this field who went by the
> handle DMBoss, he experimented with a discovery that
> others have researched which is an energy beam that
> occurs with magnets placed on tubes of noble gas,
> anyway he also did other experiments and while I
> forget all the details of the experiment, this one
> experiment he told me about, he had a large pancake
> coil with a hole in the middle and it was suspended,
> at some point with no conventional cause it just
> suddenly started swinging. It was a one off as such,
> but I will now explore several similar things!
>
> Next is Jeff Cook, he make a coil that while not quite
> a pancake as it is long as well as wide the effect
> still occurs, it also has the kind of asymmetry that
> effects the aether, this was given an impulse of power
> that could apparently bend flames, and when Tim
> Ventura of the site "American Antigravity" tested it,
> this thing sent out a beam that killed the piezo
> starters in a distant gas cook top. Basically gravity
> like impulses occurred.
>
> Next, is Ronald Stiffler who made a device that
> created an impulse that moved bits of paper and might
> have bent a laser beam a bit, it consisted of one
> large and one smaller iron toroid wrapped in a copper
> coil. Again there is asymmetry and the larger fatter
> toroid is again very thick.
>
> Next is Morton L. Morton, he made a series of
> experiment where a Van de Graff is induced somehow to
> discharge through a glass tube to a large aluminium
> plate with a hole in the center, this caused the
> emission of a repulsive or attractive force depending
> on finer details.
>
> Next is Podkletnov who after his spinning
> superconductor success did a seriously suped up
> version of the Morton experiment, his impulses were
> incomparably stronger, the details are more exotic but
> the structure is similar to a combo of Morton,
> Stiffler and Jeff Cook's device.
>
> Next is Howard Menger, I will describe a hybrid device
> that is a combo of his early experiment and his later
> experiment for simplicity, take a large circular
> aluminium disk with a hole in the center, put a carbon
> rod wrapped with a copper coil around the rod, apply a
> pulse from a battery (a modest 1.5v cell from a flash
> light). This resulted in a huge thrusting up of the
> aluminium plate that broke through his ceiling.
> He actually could not fully replicate his early
> success without making a seriously more built up
> version which involved more coils and more power, but
> he was apparently able to replicate the results to
> create an antigravity craft.
>
> Next, we will change thing a bit and look at the
> "capwarp": http://amasci.com/caps/capwarp.html
> This device creates a thrust, it was replicated
> successfully by 2-3 people, one using the pages of a
> book as the dielectric and pasting tin coil circles
> and connecting strips on the pages. Each layer again
> influences the space through the center, flow through
> the center happens due to both a rotational effect
> that occurs and possible having a positive on one end
> and negative on the other.
>
> Next is Doyle, this was in the Rex Research paper
> infolios but not online I don't think, it was a large
> circular capacitor that lost weight, no matter if the
> positive or negative was up. it was just a science
> fare project. He used Styrofoam as the dielectric.
>
> Ok, so now have you watched the "fluxliner"
> documentary? If not I HIGHLY recommend it!
> The construction there and this is an "Alien
> Reproduction Vehicle" is a large capacitor the size of
> the saucer craft, the capacitor is in segments like
> the cap warp with a hole in the middle, it also has a
> coil the energy also goes through. Glass dielectric.
>
> The guy who made the documentary was assassinated, but
> in another version some report to have seen an extra
> detail given, about a guy in university who made a
> circular HV capacitor with glass dielectric, it lost
> all weight.
>
> I myself can vouch that this segmented approach is
> powerful.
>
> If we look at moving through the center of such a
> capacitor, we would see a series of positive and
> negative planes (plates), alternating positive
> negative. Much like Cornwell's transparent windows!
> In addition while a plane creates a much stronger
> energy that just a ring, Hamel and Searl and even Otis
> T. Car would qualify, Searl has 3 concentric rings in
> the same plane, and Hamel as 2 concentric rings but
> stacked 3 in series and another large ring magnet
> below that.
>
> To some extent all you need is a circle (a loop), it's
> just that the more you have the more extreme the "window".
>
> The biggest question is how the different types of
> "window" change the effects of the energy that goes
> through, a capacitor and a coil or a neutral object
> are all very different and likely relate to different
> effects on the energy that goes through the window.
>
> Also my theory is that the window is about picking up
> energies or qualities, but it is possible that it is
> about filtering out energies or qualities, or about
> changing energies of what moves through it.
>
> But I think this is the basis of the bugs secret, and
> a powerful secret of aetheric energy, this allows
> energy to be variously conditioned.
>
> John
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> John Berry
>
> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Norman Wootan
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> John! I would love to read your ideas and theory
> and will also share my ideas as to how "flight"
> actually works. I'm 79 now and have been at this
> since my childhood since I grew up around
> aircraft. My Dad had two and I would wash
> airplanes just for a ride. (Late 40s). Norm
>
> On 3/31/2017 2:43 PM, John Berry
> [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm, yes I know.
>
> And I think I know what was going on with the
> insects, I think I might know the shape and
> how it worked.
>
> I can write it up, but I just need to know you
> want to read it, It might be a little long,
> it makes a decent case.
>
> John
>
> John Berry
>
> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Norman Wootan
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> John! regarding the
> "shimmer/invisibility", see this: Viktor
> Stepanovich Grebennikov --- naturalist and
> a professional entomologist. He is also an
> artist and an intellectual with a wide
> range of interests and pursuits. He is
> known to many as the discoverer of the
> Cavity Structures Effect (CSE). But very
> few people are familiar with his other
> discovery, the one that also borrows from
> Nature and its innermost secrets. He has
> discovered antigravitational effects of
> the chitin shell of certain insects back
> in 1988 but, the most impressive
> concomitant phenomenon he has discovered
> at the same time was that of complete or
> partial invisibility and/or of distorted
> perception of material objects entering
> the zone of compensated gravity. Based on
> this discovery, Victor Grebennikov used
> bionic principles to design and build an
> anti-gravitational platform for hovering
> flights at the speeds of up to 25 km/min.
> Since 1991-92 he has used this device for
> his own fast transportation.
> "Zone of compensated gravity"????
>
> On 3/28/2017 7:24 PM, John Berry
> [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
> wrote:
>
> Ok, I'll keep each account down to
> it's bare bone details. It is of
> course worth noting that none of this
> stuff has stellar evidence, you either
> believe the account or you don't, it
> is only in the consistency that a real
> degree of credibility arises.
>
> Big generator, suddenly unloaded. A
> report I heard from a guy who heard it
> from a guy, in a power station a
> generator, I want to say it was a
> Westinghouse, when it was pulled
> offline suddenly (but it's still
> generating) it began to shimmer and
> disappear, apparently it had been seen
> before but it wasn't talked about.
>
> An account on Keelynet, hmmm, I just
> realized I included this one under
> accounts of invisibility of iron, but
> it was iron that made non-iron this
> disappear anyway this guy who "Knew
> what he was doing" stole 5 large
> transformers, put them in a circle,
> put a goat and other things to test it
> out, they disappeared, then he got in
> the circle and disappeared.
>
> Ok, this one now I think about it is
> also "different", an account that I
> heard in connection to another account
> actually, but it involved a guy who on
> trying to conduct electricity through
> a gel with iron particles found
> himself displaced in time or
> something, I think it was mentioned in
> connection with another account I
> didn't include in my count of a "Joe
> Cell" like device (Proton Cell) that
> was powerd by an inusual generator and
> possible a spark gap, and this cell
> made for some displacements in time also.
>
> I now forget the guys name, but on the
> Art Bell radio show, a guy rang in and
> rang back a few times I think (not
> sure I listened first hand to much of
> it), he wound a high voltage
> transformer like an NST, and when he
> threw (I assume steel) screws near the
> HV arc they would vanish. Screws have
> a right handed helix, so that should
> attract the electron type energy. The
> transformer he specified was "scramble
> wound" not neatly wound, i have found
> such winding's especially if the
> degree of chaos varies (starts neat,
> gets messy) to create a lot of
> aetheric energy, and they can pull
> energy in too, perhaps from the spark
> gap creating a feedback cycle of
> aetheric energy.
>
> William Beaty's weird science site has
> had feedback from people who have got
> weird results from experiments, one
> tells about a guy took some amplifier
> or something, hooked it up to a steel
> loop (the kind that would come with
> rabbit ears something, with 90 degree
> bends leading into and out of the loop
> (which I have found to be a powerful
> aetheric effect if the 2 sides are
> imbalanced somehow), into which he
> dangled a paper clip on cotton, the
> paper clip vanished and when he
> reversed the connection to the loop it
> re-appeared. In might have been
> enveloped in a blue glow? (if you
> look you will find the account)
>
> I had a friend in Canada, I think he
> said that he witnessed this, or maybe
> it happened to his friends, they took
> a steel coat hanger and shorted out a
> car battery, it turned red, then
> white, then started to shimmer and vanish.
>
> You know Rex Research, well there was
> another group in New Zealand (maybe it
> was Australia) called Lost Tech
> Archives IIRC, I never bought any of
> their stuff (this was back before Rex
> Research put stuff online for free) as
> I had opted out of paying any money
> for more info but some stuff I got for
> free, or was it the catalog? Or a
> free first copy? Well one of the
> things was a newspaper clipping of a
> guy who way way back, I'm going to
> guess the 50's at the earliest, who
> had a suit with steel coils that made
> him invisible. Another thing they also
> had was a guy who made a vacuum tube
> device that created rays that caused
> things to lose weight.
>
> In Gerry Vassalito's 2 books on Tesla
> and cold wars secrets, he talk about
> how arc welders would find steel tools
> vanish, and finally they realized that
> emissions from the arcs were doing
> this. This was probably peculiar to
> the technology used in the day. As
> William Lyne points out in his again,
> 2 books, welding with Hydrogen used to
> be a thing and it was very overunity.
> While I guess this was not that, such
> "features" tend to get removed over
> time. But there is an account of a
> guy welding a Pyramid and hit levitated.
>
> There are accounts of the steel
> components in the Pharnsworth Fusor
> sometimes turning transparent or
> becoming invisible.
>
> There are accounts of steel components
> in more regular vacuum tubes sometimes
> becoming invisible (still working, so
> they were still there).
>
> There is an account of a transformer
> made with steel tube, not laminate,
> that was made in the form of a bike so
> that it could be ridden, it would
> cause the transformer and the rider
> (or just the rider?) to begin to
> vanish and to come back babbling about
> what he saw. There is also an account
> from Davis and Rawls of treating the
> Pineal with a magnet, but this is
> assumed to have only resulted in
> seeing things dissolve in a "3rd eye"
> kind of way.
>
> Finally, there is an account that I
> have a document on somewhere, a guy
> made a device, he used copper wire
> from an old telephone transmission
> transformer (I have no idea if there
> is such a thing, but that's what I
> recall), he had 3 steel cores which he
> wound bucking electromagnetic poles
> on, I think he energized them in a
> circular manner so as to create a
> rotating field, but I'm not sure, but
> he did have the frequency increase
> gradually as it ran, at some point
> objects put in the center would
> disappear, he could make them reappear
> also. I think the document might have
> had a shot at what frequency might
> have been used.
>
> So, we have multiple accounts then
> suggesting that there are a lot of
> ways that steel can be treated that
> makes it eventually "wig out' and
> disappear, sometimes coming back,
> sometimes not seemingly the object
> remains in the same space and can be
> returned by reversing the process, in
> other case not powering it anymore
> seems enough (probably in cases where
> the item is connected to circuitry
> that has not vanished, grounding the
> energy).
>
> Oh, it's not iron, but there is also
> an account of paper thin gold becoming
> transparent when heated, both this and
> the "regular vacuum tube" account
> above were mentioned by someone on
> BBill eaty's Vortex discussion list.
>
> Oh, and as for the space warping one,
> that is a claim by Stan Deyo, he had
> an iron ring which he created multi
> axis rotating iron atoms (hmmm, does
> that sound like it could describe a
> helix?) by pulsing 3 coils on
> different axis at a special frequency
> at a special phase relationship, this
> caused space to bend in toward the
> device for a moment at which point it
> would do nothing else, not that device
> and even a newly built device in that
> spot would not work, as if the device
> was now "full" and had sucked the
> relevant energy from the space around
> it. But a new one in a new spot would
> agian work once apparently.
>
> So the note I made to myself based on
> all of this is that the iron can be
> energized a number of ways.
>
> The effects I notices were:
>
> Spark gap discharge <This featured
> prominently, the vacuum tube is also a
> similar kind of "current across a
> gap", I guess to strech a point the
> gap in the outer ring of the paperclip
> vanishing device could also count.
>
> Current through the iron, let me see,
> if the output coils are not loaded
> suddenly, then the core losses
> increase (as the magnetic field is
> unopposed by the generator coils)
> which includes induction of currrent,
> so this could apply to the first one,
> perhaps the second one as some
> transformers are made to only work
> loaded and unloaded will draw too much
> current, conducting current through
> iron particles in a gel, Yup. Also
> that would go for the "extra" account
> about similar effects from the
> Joe/Proton cell. It might apply to
> the home-made HV transformer, no idea
> what kind of core he used.or if he had
> enough primary turns to keep it from
> drawing too much current thereby
> inducing excess inductive losses.
> Paper clip account, Yup, current
> through loop. My old (actually young
> at the time) friend in Canada, YUP!
> Lost Tech Archives paper clipping of a
> jacket made with steel coils which,
> yes, were electrified, so YUP!
> Pharnsworth Fusor? Maybe a little as
> it was electrified to a high voltage
> and that was lost to the gas in
> ionization, Regular Vacuum Tubes?
> Probably. Steel Tube ride-on
> Transformer? You bet! Rising freq.
> device with bucking electromagnets?
> Possibly. As for the the account from
> Gerry Vassilitos, while current is
> assumed not to be passing through the
> steel objects that vanished, it would
> have been likely passing through the
> things being welded, so probably Yes!
>
> Voltage: Probably not required, only
> ones with propperly HV is Pharnsworth
> and the HV transformer.
>
> Saturation: Possible in a number of
> the cases, but not all, not by a long way.
>
> Physical stress: Maybe in some, but
> not a major component.
>
> Hysteresis: I think this could be a
> big help but it's not present in
> anything but the more
> transformer/generator type examples
>
> High frequency??? In only a few of the
> cases.
>
> If Norm's Buzzer is just a steel rod
> as I understand it to be, it too would
> have had this "induction in the core"
> going on!
> Both eddy currents and Hysteresis and
> it's directly electrically connected
> and has a "spark gap" or sorts
> (mechanical switches do spark :) ).
>
> But I think that overall, the arc
> welding and the HV transformer with
> screws thrown at it and the several
> with circles of steel and things
> vanishing in the middle point to the
> effect being aetheric, the steel is
> just good at containing the aetheric
> energy, and when it is contained then
> things "done" to the steel tend to
> convert that energy, weather it is
> mechanical stress such as a buzzer or
> hysteresis or ohmic resistance into
> more aetheric energy to the point, a
> runaway feedback effect. Merely having
> losses in iron probably won't do
> anything if the aether is not already
> involved.
>
> John
>
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>
> John Berry
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Mick
> [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> John,
>
> I am very interested in
> dimensional shifts and their
> causes. Anything you might provide
> based on these cases you mention
> would be compelling.
>
> Thanks,
> Mick
>
> On 3/28/2017 2:39 PM, John Berry
> [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> I wish you had not brought up
> the subject of pure Iron, I
> just looked into it and it is
> EXPENSIVE well I don't know
> what that powder costs, but a
> single 10cm 2mm dia iron rod
> is a couple hundred bucks if
> you want pure.
>
> Anything cheap has no purity
> figures, well could be anything.
>
> Of course while pure iron
> might be better, the evidence
> for iron being awesome points
> to it not needing to be pure.
>
> Looking at all the evidence I
> have for iron, I think that
> the number of ways it can be
> used are numerous, just
> considering invisibility, in
> some accounts it is near a
> spark gap, in other accounts
> current runs through it, in
> some accounts there are
> saturating magnetic fields but
> in other accounts there
> aren't. In some accounts there
> is HV, in other accounts there
> is not, but all the accounts I
> am thinking of the iron got so
> charged with energy it began
> to vanish.
> I can think of at least 10
> such accounts, and a 11th
> where is seemed to warp space
> instead of vanish!
> And that's without counting
> the Philadelphia experiment
> which is meant to have
> vanished because of the iron
> in the ship.
> And that's not counting
> another where steel was used
> to make things vanish but it
> wasn't the steel that
> vanished, but that should
> probably be counted also.
>
> If you want I can go over the
> claims in each case, but
> that's a lot of evidence that
> Iron can do some interesting
> things!
>
> So while there might be ways
> to get the iron to produce
> energy, I think the key is
> that much as with the locked
> rotor and MRA tests, energy
> (aetheric) can be built up to
> a very high level in iron no
> matter where it comes from.
>
> And if this energy is expelled
> all at once, look out!
>
> Incidentally I found a form
> that is very effective at
> keeping energy in,
> condensing. I don't know if
> this suits the iron subject,
> but it might.
>
> Inline image 1
>
> This was arrived at by
> experimentation and I'm not
> sure if I have an explanation
> it would do full justice.
> Again if you are willing to
> try and do something as out
> there as feel energy from a
> screen, this is a good one to try.
>
> John
>
>
>
> John Berry
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 3:51
> AM, [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
>
> one word (Gravity)
>
> every particle is a
> transform engine ...
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