Re: Panacea site

Old news.Ash's site I think.He gave up on the rotoverter and does not post here anymore..

He gave up on doing the correct thing ....as there is only one way to do this mission ...


 

---In [email protected], <laser.rod@...> wrote :

 Old news.
 Ash's site I think.
 He gave up on the rotoverter and does not post here anymore..

H,Like you always say"it's a bitch to tune" right? 

    On Friday, November 2, 2018 8:40 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     He gave up on doing the correct thing ....as there is only one way to do this mission ...




---In [email protected], <laser.rod@...> wrote :

Old news.Ash's site I think.He gave up on the rotoverter and does not post here anymore..
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Whoah! GUYS!If some bumbling dude like me, can make a functioning rotoverter, then it is not that hard, is it?I had lots of help from Doug, and the group, when I finally got a decent bunch of WEG motors.Tuning is just a matter of a good,well made decade box for tuning the capacitors, rather than a ratty bunch of wires, and alligator clips, again not that difficult if you can drill holes for switches, and perhaps work a soldering iron.For the soldering challenged, there are always crimp on terminals.Figuring out which motor wire was which, was my hard challenge.Fortunately, the WEGs were new, and orthodox numbered, in some universal manner, and Doug was able to just give me the correct numbers to hook up.
It worked right off, blowing me away, using tiny speaker wires for that very heavy cast lump of iron, with a hoisting eye, turning its shaft at 1800 rpm, on less juice than needed to charge my cell phone!Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 at 10:02 PM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

H,Like you always say"it's a bitch to tune" right? 

    On Friday, November 2, 2018 8:40 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     He gave up on doing the correct thing ....as there is only one way to do this mission ...




---In [email protected], <laser.rod@...> wrote :

Old news.Ash's site I think.He gave up on the rotoverter and does not post here anymore..
  

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Maybe its more "if you are a bitch at it" its impossible to tune !!! LOL !  






---In [email protected], <laser.rod@...> wrote :

 H,
 Like you always say"it's a bitch to tune" right?
 


 On Friday, November 2, 2018 8:40 PM, "arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

 

   He gave up on doing the correct thing ....as there is only one way to do this mission ...



 

---In [email protected], <laser.rod@...> wrote :

 Old news.
 Ash's site I think.
 He gave up on the rotoverter and does not post here anymore..

Dave,

By setting up a rotary condenser one can make the analog meters run
backwards.   Not sure how the new smart meters process a leading phase
angle but doubt they can be manipulated this way.


On 11/3/2018 8:13 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
> Yes, I found that Rotov. adds or subtracts magnetic and physical
> momentum if you have just the right motor.
> I made 10HP Emerson "boat anchor" that didn't work when I found each
> pole and counter pole winding was 2 wires together in
> parallel(bi-filler, not tesla), and this 240/480V, 4 pole (3.6KRPM)
> motor used bifiller windings.
> So it actually has 48 wires bonded together.
> I needed to tear all 24 bi-filer ends aprt. to connect them end to end
> or series to increase the impedance so now it can start and run on
> less power by magnitudes.
>
> Another thing one can do by poking through the wire enamel with sharp
> ohm-meter probe to find half the DC res. of each pole and
> counter-pole, the middle of each wind, and experimenting with this
> center-tap.
>
> Now think of how a utillity/hydro KWH meter magnetic motor can run
> backwards when the magnetic field lag between two or more poles are
> reversed.
>
>
> On Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:42 AM, "[email protected]
> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>  
> Maybe its more "if you are a bitch at it" its impossible to tune !!!
> LOL ! 
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <laser.rod@...> wrote :
>
> H,
> Like you always say"it's a bitch to tune" right?
>
>
> On Friday, November 2, 2018 8:40 PM, "arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>  
> He gave up on doing the correct thing ....as there is only one way to
> do this mission ...
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <laser.rod@...> wrote :
>
> Old news.
> Ash's site I think.
> He gave up on the rotoverter and does not post here anymore..
>
>
>
>
>

Kone,

That was quick!  Have you considered undertaking the same kind of
business that Rick Frederich did with Bedini tech and make some really
cool looking kits for Kone/Muller motors to sell on your own site?

I think that there is a huge potential of buyers for this item and it is
extremely marketable.  You could even have upcharges for the super hi
tech core materials like Hyperco and such so an average unit is a grand
but the super duper one is close to ten K.


On 11/3/2018 10:50 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Dave
> I ran the three parallel phase wires in rotoverted 7.5hp Baldor 3ph in
> series not the stock parallel got draw down at idle to 8 watts at 120v
> feed plus put in ceramic bearings too...nice motor now...
> Another Baldor 7.5hp had 2 paralell wires so split motor windings in
> two one half receives AC juice other half becomes induced pickup winds
> creating more power into external caps after rectifying but this
> project now stalled because lost wire numbers while doing this had to
> re connect from blank sheet something got backwards needs a few hours
> of concentration to fix...i am back in Belarus now only spent 19 days
> in October in USA so no time to work in workshop in Seattle but took
> lots of components back here to Minsk this time hidden in socks in
> luggage such as 460v 20 mosfet relays ceramic skateboard bearings
> ferrite cores super fast diodes wire but no 3ph motors stashed n.luggage
> Kone
>
>

Yes, I found that Rotov. adds or subtracts magnetic and physical momentum if you have just the right motor.I made 10HP Emerson "boat anchor" that didn't work when I found each pole and counter pole winding was 2 wires together in parallel(bi-filler, not tesla), and this 240/480V, 4 pole (3.6KRPM) motor used bifiller windings.So it actually has 48 wires bonded together.I needed to tear all 24 bi-filer ends aprt. to connect them end to end or series to increase the impedance so now it can start and run on less power by magnitudes.
Another thing one can do by poking through the wire enamel with sharp ohm-meter probe to find half the DC res. of each pole and counter-pole, the middle of each wind, and experimenting with this center-tap.
Now think of how a utillity/hydro KWH meter magnetic motor can run backwards when the magnetic field lag between two or more poles are reversed.
 

    On Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:42 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     Maybe its more "if you are a bitch at it" its impossible to tune !!! LOL !  






---In [email protected], <laser.rod@...> wrote :

H,Like you always say"it's a bitch to tune" right? 

    On Friday, November 2, 2018 8:40 PM, "arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     He gave up on doing the correct thing ....as there is only one way to do this mission ...




---In [email protected], <laser.rod@...> wrote :

Old news.Ash's site I think.He gave up on the rotoverter and does not post here anymore..
  

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Kone,

With the way most people are so lacking when it comes to participating
on the bench experiments, kits offer an easy way to move forward without
investing in all of the different type of shop tools.  For instance I
don't have a lathe so this causes me issues and I am one willing to turn
things and know enough about machining to be dangerous.

In any event I think kits with manuals and experiments built at Warren
build quality level with killer looking polycarbonate rotors and stators
would keep you shitting in tall cotton bigtime.

I don't know anything about Belarus but from my travels have the feeling
that for starting a successful business either United States or Hong
Kong are the best countries for parts availability and business law. 
Parts most places are very restricted compared to here.  Hong Kong has
superior business law (best in the world) and cheaper shipping options. 
They have a flat tax of 15% for everyone except for the very poor who
pay around 8% if memory serves.  Hong Kong residents are so productive
though most end up doing pretty damn well, even if they start out with
two families in one apartment.

Over there you might start the site first with info and some videos but
the big money would be in the actual motor kits.

One can sell all the over unity product one desires as long as: A it's
in kit form and B not advertised as such.  So there should be an open
statement concerning efficiency and the adjustments available for one to
burn electrons or not so much and it being up to each experimenter, the
efficiency resulting.

Same idea as that prick who patented Norm's hard work by changing from
excess energy to high efficiency- the trojan horse effect.

We were renting out a house with a huge shop where I could fit a lathe
and mill and more, but due to a majority of renters being such
destructive fucking idiots have decided to sell it. Where I live now is
limited without building another shop space.

I think the fucktones project sounds like fun!


On 11/3/2018 1:42 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Mick
> Yes thinking of ideas to make some cash using internet over here in
> Russian speaking Minsk belarus.....kits I don't know since can't
> really by the parts needed easily like in usa and workshop area very small
> erhaps just plans would work out ok.....
> I do plan on releasing new Fuckedtones 11th album which will be just
> acoustic guitar with sugar sweet vocals of my wifee ver it...maybe
> English and Russian versions I wrote 12songs already with double
> meaning nonsense dtupid lyrics already so just need to record her
> reading the words or whatever she feels like sayimg, witb.me plaiy
> ing.mclaughlinHendrix?miles Davis Fuckedtones guitar parts
> underneath...for example the songb"Evertingz Fucked" repeating chords
> of E G A over and over with her singing " I love you because your
> socks smellsl good " place of the original lyrics written in 90s :
> "leave me alone ..
> i wanna get stoned ...
> Cause everything, everything's fuhhhhhhhhcked"
>
> Alsobtbinking of doing a sort of free energy blog whatever you call it
> channel on YouTube doing it the way political talkers do it getting
> subscribers and watchers interested an for some o donate and support
> and could have daily show 29 minutes or so live from Minsk explaining
> and showing what I know and think to anyone interested in the free
> energy tning...
> Might be popular maybe get a few bucks that way have fun doing it
> too...i can say lots more talking than typing for 20 minutes....
> So there are couple ideas...we plan on returning to USA in spring to
> give it another try then.
> Kone
>
> ...
>
> ...
>
>

Hector,

It's only the silicon carbide ones that pose an export threat far as I
am aware.  The other electronics export restrictions have to do with
encryption electronics like ASIC's and such.

As long as he is not shoving krytrons in his socks most discrete
switching tech is legal for export.


On 11/3/2018 3:34 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> some mosfets are restricted to be carried over there by the USA gov
> ,,, so dont even mention it !
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :
>
> Hi Dave
> I ran the three parallel phase wires in rotoverted 7.5hp Baldor 3ph in
> series not the stock parallel got draw down at idle to 8 watts at 120v
> feed plus put in ceramic bearings too...nice motor now...
> Another Baldor 7.5hp had 2 paralell wires so split motor windings in
> two one half receives AC juice other half becomes induced pickup winds
> creating more power into external caps after rectifying but this
> project now stalled because lost wire numbers while doing this had to
> re connect from blank sheet something got backwards needs a few hours
> of concentration to fix...i am back in Belarus now only spent 19 days
> in October in USA so no time to work in workshop in Seattle but took
> lots of components back here to Minsk this time hidden in socks in
> luggage such as 460v 20 mosfet relays ceramic skateboard bearings
> ferrite cores super fast diodes wire but no 3ph motors stashed n.luggage
> Kone
>

Hi Dave 
I ran the three parallel phase wires in rotoverted 7.5hp Baldor 3ph  in series not the stock parallel got draw down at idle  to 8 watts at 120v feed plus put  in ceramic bearings too...nice motor now...
Another Baldor 7.5hp  had 2 paralell wires so split motor windings  in two one half receives AC juice other half becomes induced pickup winds creating more power into external caps after rectifying but this project now stalled because lost wire numbers while doing this had to re connect from blank sheet something got backwards needs a few hours of concentration to fix...i am back in Belarus now only spent 19 days in October in USA so no time to work in workshop in Seattle but took lots of components back here to Minsk this time hidden in socks in luggage such as 460v 20 mosfet relays ceramic skateboard  bearings ferrite cores super fast diodes wire  but no 3ph motors stashed n.luggage
Kone

Interesting Kone, did the engineer mention as to why it was restricted?


On 11/3/2018 4:29 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Mick
> A fcc engineer I know said they make magnetic reed swtches rated at
> 400 amps but restricted from public...who knows what else they have
> that is restricted
> Kone
>
>

James very subjective question It depends on the setup and use motor or
generator, the frequency number of pulses per second how close the coils
are to one another.  However for small slower motor systems more power/
torque should be developed with the core than copper alone.  Without the
core or with very fine core there is less loss due to  Lenz on the
generating side or when loaded at certain speeds as a motor.  If I got
any of this wrong Kone can correct me as he is far more knowledgeable
with this kind of thing.


On 11/3/2018 1:10 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> I'm going to ask a general question .when using a coil with a magnet
> for turning a wheel .when you use the coil with out a iron core you
> use x amount of power in a pluse .and is it more when you use a iron
> core in the same coil . is the presence of iron just generate a larger
> magnetic field .with out more energy being used. ? Or does the iron
> core pull more energy ? In useage ? Any opinions ?.
>
> On Saturday, November 3, 2018, [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>      
>
>     Hi Mick
>     Not sure if this related to rotary condenser description, but run
>     cap phase of rotovertor motor is known ad rotary transformer phase
>     (not so much condensor)
>     Kone
>
>

Hi Mick
Not sure if this related to rotary condenser  description,  but run cap phase of rotovertor motor is known ad rotary transformer phase (not so much  condensor)
Kone

I'm going to ask a general question .when using a coil with a magnet for
turning a wheel .when you use the coil with out a iron core you use x
amount of power in a pluse .and is it more when you use a iron core in the
same coil . is the presence of iron just generate a larger magnetic field
.with out more energy being used. ? Or does the iron core pull more energy
? In useage ? Any opinions ?.

On Saturday, November 3, 2018, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Mick
> Not sure if this related to rotary condenser description, but run cap
> phase of rotovertor motor is known ad rotary transformer phase (not so much
> condensor)
> Kone
> 
>

Hi Mick 
Yes thinking of ideas to make some cash using internet over here in Russian speaking Minsk belarus.....kits I don't know since can't really by  the parts needed easily like in usa and workshop area very small
erhaps just plans would work out ok.....
I do plan on releasing new Fuckedtones 11th album which will be just acoustic guitar with sugar sweet vocals of my wifee ver it...maybe English and Russian versions I wrote 12songs already with double meaning nonsense dtupid lyrics already so just need to record her reading the words or whatever she feels like sayimg, witb.me plaiy ing.mclaughlinHendrix?miles Davis Fuckedtones  guitar parts underneath...for example the songb"Evertingz Fucked" repeating chords of E G A over and over with her singing " I love you because your socks smellsl good " place of the original lyrics written in 90s :
"leave me alone ..
 i wanna  get stoned ...
Cause everything,  everything's fuhhhhhhhhcked" 

Alsobtbinking of doing a sort of free energy blog whatever you call it channel  on YouTube doing it the way political talkers  do it getting subscribers and watchers  interested  an for some o donate and support and could have daily show 29 minutes or so live from Minsk explaining and showing what I know and think  to anyone interested in the free energy tning...
Might be popular maybe get a few bucks that way have fun doing it too...i can say lots more talking than typing for 20 minutes....
So there are couple ideas...we plan on returning to USA in spring to give it another try then.
Kone







..



..

some mosfets are restricted to be carried over there by the USA gov ,,, so dont even mention it !


 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

 Hi Dave 
 I ran the three parallel phase wires in rotoverted 7.5hp Baldor 3ph in series not the stock parallel got draw down at idle to 8 watts at 120v feed plus put in ceramic bearings too...nice motor now...
 Another Baldor 7.5hp had 2 paralell wires so split motor windings in two one half receives AC juice other half becomes induced pickup winds creating more power into external caps after rectifying but this project now stalled because lost wire numbers while doing this had to re connect from blank sheet something got backwards needs a few hours of concentration to fix...i am back in Belarus now only spent 19 days in October in USA so no time to work in workshop in Seattle but took lots of components back here to Minsk this time hidden in socks in luggage such as 460v 20 mosfet relays ceramic skateboard bearings ferrite cores super fast diodes wire but no 3ph motors stashed n.luggage
 Kone

well you can get a $7,000 fine by the power company ....



---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Dave,
 By setting up a rotary condenser one can make the analog meters run backwards.   Not sure how the new smart meters process a leading phase angle but doubt they can be manipulated this way.
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 8:13 AM, Dave Muckerman laser.rod@... mailto:laser.rod@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Yes, I found that Rotov. adds or subtracts magnetic and physical momentum if you have just the right motor.
 I made 10HP Emerson "boat anchor" that didn't work when I found each pole and counter pole winding was 2 wires together in parallel(bi-filler, not tesla), and this 240/480V, 4 pole (3.6KRPM) motor used bifiller windings.
 So it actually has 48 wires bonded together.
 I needed to tear all 24 bi-filer ends aprt. to connect them end to end or series to increase the impedance so now it can start and run on less power by magnitudes.
 
 
 Another thing one can do by poking through the wire enamel with sharp ohm-meter probe to find half the DC res. of each pole and counter-pole, the middle of each wind, and experimenting with this center-tap.
 
 
 Now think of how a utillity/hydro KWH meter magnetic motor can run backwards when the magnetic field lag between two or more poles are reversed.
 
 
 
 
 On Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:42 AM, "arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]" mailto:arkresearch@...[EVGRAY] <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] wrote:
 
 
 
   Maybe its more "if you are a bitch at it" its impossible to tune !!! LOL !  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <laser.rod@...> mailto:laser.rod@... wrote :
 
 
 H,
 Like you always say"it's a bitch to tune" right?
 
 
 
 On Friday, November 2, 2018 8:40 PM, "arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]" mailto:arkresearch@...[EVGRAY] <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] wrote:
 
 
 
   He gave up on doing the correct thing ....as there is only one way to do this mission ...
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <laser.rod@...> mailto:laser.rod@... wrote :
 
 Old news.
 Ash's site I think.
 He gave up on the rotoverter and does not post here anymore..

Hi H 
Fuck them if they cant take a joke eb....(Bill Miller quote)
They would not prosecute since the released info to public in court discovery documentsis too official truth for the bastards. They might threaten to prosecute or send over a retard spook agent whatever who cares at this srage.read yours or my posts here last 15 years they don't have a clue whoever they are..
Kone

Hi Mick
A fcc engineer I know said they make magnetic reed swtches rated at 400 amps but restricted from public...who knows what else they have that is restricted
Kone