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RF and power factor

6 messages · 2018-10-27T11:17:48-07:00 → 2018-10-30T12:29:56+00:00

[1/6] RF and power factor

2018-10-27T11:17:48-07:00 · Mick <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]> 
Hector,

Where or when does an RF transmitter get it's leading power factor?  I
do not fully understand your position of RF always being leading vs unity.

For instance is an RF amp designed to have a different power factor than
an audio power amp or are they the same until the signal arrives at the
loading?

I don't see how the power factor becomes leading until loaded by the
capacitive load antenna therefore designing the most efficient feedline
the transmitter power amp should sit right at the antenna.

[2/6] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: RF and power factor

2018-10-28T08:51:48-07:00 · Mick <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]> 
Hector,

What is the carrier is derived from a TTL signal?


On 10/28/2018 6:37 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Any signal has 2 conditions , current and voltage in phase =   NON
> broadcasting !
>
>
> Current and voltage 90deg off phase  ( broadcasting )  RADIANT !!   = RE
>
> audio amp  ( no LC tanks or stages )
>
> RF amp  LC tanks and or stages ......RF  =   RE  .
>
> the best option is to convert HF,VHF ,UHF to  RF in the final antenna
> coupling stage after the coaxial end , coaxial capacitance taken into
> the equation ..
>
> yes is complex as hell , but as i see i was the first to couple power
> engineering with RF engineering , RV is testimony to that .. so !
>
>  
>
>
>
> This information is proprietary:
>
>   ARK Research © 1999,2018  Public Disclosure ,
>
>  Not for patent or scientific papers Thesis .
>
> reproduce & print with  source  statement OCT 28 2018
>
> Hector Perez Torres
> [email protected]
>
> ARK Ω
>
> print & keep so you people later can challenge patents made from this
> PUBLIC info !
>
> (H)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>
> Hector,
>
> Where or when does an RF transmitter get it's leading power factor?  I
> do not fully understand your position of RF always being leading vs unity.
>
> For instance is an RF amp designed to have a different power factor than
> an audio power amp or are they the same until the signal arrives at the
> loading?
>
> I don't see how the power factor becomes leading until loaded by the
> capacitive load antenna therefore designing the most efficient feedline
> the transmitter power amp should sit right at the antenna.
>

[3/6] Re: RF and power factor

2018-10-28T13:37:46+00:00 · triadutrad <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]> 
Any signal has 2 conditions , current and voltage in phase =   NON broadcasting ! 


Current and voltage 90deg off phase  ( broadcasting )  RADIANT !!   = RE 

audio amp  ( no LC tanks or stages )

RF amp  LC tanks and or stages ......RF  =   RE  .

the best option is to convert HF,VHF ,UHF to  RF in the final antenna coupling stage after the coaxial end , coaxial capacitance taken into the equation ..

yes is complex as hell , but as i see i was the first to couple power engineering with RF engineering , RV is testimony to that .. so ! 

 



This information is proprietary:

  ARK Research © 1999,2018  Public Disclosure ,

 Not for patent or scientific papers Thesis .

reproduce & print with  source  statement OCT 28 2018

Hector Perez Torres
[email protected]

ARK Ω 

print & keep so you people later can challenge patents made from this PUBLIC info ! 

(H) 




 

---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Hector,
 
 Where or when does an RF transmitter get it's leading power factor?  I
 do not fully understand your position of RF always being leading vs unity.
 
 For instance is an RF amp designed to have a different power factor than
 an audio power amp or are they the same until the signal arrives at the
 loading?
 
 I don't see how the power factor becomes leading until loaded by the
 capacitive load antenna therefore designing the most efficient feedline
 the transmitter power amp should sit right at the antenna.

[4/6] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: RF and power factor

2018-10-29T05:49:59-07:00 · triadutrad <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]> 
Anyway will be seen as sawtooth wave or sine wave as it goes down into the analog path in an LC it can also look like an spike so depends on the modulation method , AM,FM, CM, DSB, LSB,USB PSK31 , RTTY ,MFSK  PACKET, PACTOR , SWM, PSM MT 63,HELL , THROB, OLIVIA & Chonka ChonKa & other experimental methods  and what form it takes in shape and how its also decoded at the receiving end , a pulse at a receiving end can be seen as a single shot ping into the circuit  an stream of such pings can carry any data just at the speed it does not overlap or spreads out of the permitted parameters allowed by the FCC .

Use a digital to analog converter  DAC in TX  and ADC analog to digital converter at the receiving end RX ! 

Amen ! 

(H) 


---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Hector,
 What is the carrier is derived from a TTL signal?
 
 
 On 10/28/2018 6:37 AM, arkresearch@... mailto:arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Any signal has 2 conditions , current and voltage in phase =   NON broadcasting ! 
 
 
 Current and voltage 90deg off phase  ( broadcasting )  RADIANT !!   = RE 
 
 audio amp  ( no LC tanks or stages )
 
 RF amp  LC tanks and or stages ......RF  =   RE  .
 
 the best option is to convert HF,VHF ,UHF to  RF in the final antenna coupling stage after the coaxial end , coaxial capacitance taken into the equation ..
 
 yes is complex as hell , but as i see i was the first to couple power engineering with RF engineering , RV is testimony to that .. so ! 
 
  
 
 
 
 This information is proprietary:
 
   ARK Research © 1999,2018  Public Disclosure ,
 
  Not for patent or scientific papers Thesis .
 
 reproduce & print with  source  statement OCT 28 2018
 
 Hector Perez Torres
 arkresearch@... mailto:arkresearch@...
 
 ARK Ω 
 
 print & keep so you people later can challenge patents made from this PUBLIC info ! 
 
 (H) 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <mkjekyll@...> mailto:mkjekyll@... wrote :
 
 Hector,
 
 Where or when does an RF transmitter get it's leading power factor?  I
 do not fully understand your position of RF always being leading vs unity.
 
 For instance is an RF amp designed to have a different power factor than
 an audio power amp or are they the same until the signal arrives at the
 loading?
 
 I don't see how the power factor becomes leading until loaded by the
 capacitive load antenna therefore designing the most efficient feedline
 the transmitter power amp should sit right at the antenna.

[5/6] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: RF and power factor

2018-10-29T13:34:52+00:00 · Warren Keillor <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]> 
Hi HectorIt sounds as if you are ripe for coming around to using an Arduino, with all this TTL preamble.Cheers Warren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 8:57 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Anyway will be seen as sawtooth wave or sine wave as it goes down into the analog path in an LC it can also look like an spike so depends on the modulation method , AM,FM, CM, DSB, LSB,USB PSK31 , RTTY ,MFSK  PACKET, PACTOR , SWM, PSM MT 63,HELL , THROB, OLIVIA & Chonka ChonKa & other experimental methods  and what form it takes in shape and how its also decoded at the receiving end , a pulse at a receiving end can be seen as a single shot ping into the circuit  an stream of such pings can carry any data just at the speed it does not overlap or spreads out of the permitted parameters allowed by the FCC .

Use a digital to analog converter  DAC in TX  and ADC analog to digital converter at the receiving end RX ! 

Amen ! 

(H) 


---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :


 
Hector,
 
What is the carrier is derived from a TTL signal?
 
 
 On 10/28/2018 6:37 AM, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
 
    
Any signal has 2 conditions , current and voltage in phase =   NON broadcasting ! 
 
 
 Current and voltage 90deg off phase  ( broadcasting )  RADIANT !!   = RE 
 
 audio amp  ( no LC tanks or stages )
 
 RF amp  LC tanks and or stages ......RF  =   RE  .
 
 the best option is to convert HF,VHF ,UHF to  RF in the final antenna coupling stage after the coaxial end , coaxial capacitance taken into the equation ..
 
 yes is complex as hell , but as i see i was the first to couple power engineering with RF engineering , RV is testimony to that .. so ! 
 
  
 
 
 
 This information is proprietary:
 
   ARK Research © 1999,2018  Public Disclosure ,
 
  Not for patent or scientific papers Thesis .
 
 reproduce & print with  source  statement OCT 28 2018
 
 Hector Perez Torres
 arkresearch@...
 
 ARK Ω 
 
 print & keep so you people later can challenge patents made from this PUBLIC info ! 
 
 (H) 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
 
 Hector,
 
 Where or when does an RF transmitter get it's leading power factor?  I
 do not fully understand your position of RF always being leading vs unity.
 
 For instance is an RF amp designed to have a different power factor than
 an audio power amp or are they the same until the signal arrives at the
 loading?
 
 I don't see how the power factor becomes leading until loaded by the
 capacitive load antenna therefore designing the most efficient feedline
 the transmitter power amp should sit right at the antenna.   
 
 
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[6/6] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: RF and power factor

2018-10-30T12:29:56+00:00 · triadutrad <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]> 
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(H) 

---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Hector,
 What is the carrier is derived from a TTL signal?
 
 
 On 10/28/2018 6:37 AM, arkresearch@... mailto:arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Any signal has 2 conditions , current and voltage in phase =   NON broadcasting ! 
 
 
 Current and voltage 90deg off phase  ( broadcasting )  RADIANT !!   = RE 
 
 audio amp  ( no LC tanks or stages )
 
 RF amp  LC tanks and or stages ......RF  =   RE  .
 
 the best option is to convert HF,VHF ,UHF to  RF in the final antenna coupling stage after the coaxial end , coaxial capacitance taken into the equation ..
 
 yes is complex as hell , but as i see i was the first to couple power engineering with RF engineering , RV is testimony to that .. so ! 
 
  
 
 
 
 This information is proprietary:
 
   ARK Research © 1999,2018  Public Disclosure ,
 
  Not for patent or scientific papers Thesis .
 
 reproduce & print with  source  statement OCT 28 2018
 
 Hector Perez Torres
 arkresearch@... mailto:arkresearch@...
 
 ARK Ω 
 
 print & keep so you people later can challenge patents made from this PUBLIC info ! 
 
 (H) 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <mkjekyll@...> mailto:mkjekyll@... wrote :
 
 Hector,
 
 Where or when does an RF transmitter get it's leading power factor?  I
 do not fully understand your position of RF always being leading vs unity.
 
 For instance is an RF amp designed to have a different power factor than
 an audio power amp or are they the same until the signal arrives at the
 loading?
 
 I don't see how the power factor becomes leading until loaded by the
 capacitive load antenna therefore designing the most efficient feedline
 the transmitter power amp should sit right at the antenna.