Reguaging a pancake coil

James! Mick is absolutely correct in that you have to create a pulse 
train of Negative, unidirectional DC to get the longitudinal waves. In 
my opinion, after studying the pancake coil winding techniques, I 
settled on the two counter wound coils to duplicate Tels's coil. You 
have to phase cancel the vectorials to get the longitudinal pulses 
(stripped of E&H fields).   The powerful magnetic quench insures no 
ringing in discharge and follows Tesla's early work in magnetic 
rectification. It works!


On 9/29/2018 11:23 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> James,
>
> A CB does not transmit longitudinal modulated waves as do Tesla spark 
> gap devices. One will be missing the pumping action with regular 
> crystal controlled AM without some mods.  There is a reason why so 
> many replications of Tesla don't work and that is people substitute 
> modern parts.
>
>
> On 9/29/2018 7:40 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Well from what I've seen lately it's kind of simple to replicate 
>> .Tesla tower in miniature and it works with the counter clockwise 
>> coil.two matching coils pancake and a radio wave source ...and some 
>> thing to wave form it .I was thinking a cheap 27 Chanel citizens band 
>> radio they have crystal frequency control .at about 4 Watts .if the 
>> replicators are right you can get from 5 to 10 times back .there's 
>> really nothing much there but two coils a ball covered in foil and a 
>> radio source . just looking for now .
>>
>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018, Mick [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     James,
>>
>>     Don Smith had some very strange ideas such as the counter wound
>>     one amp the other volts.  I certainly do not get this reasoning
>>     but again may be missing something.  Counterwinding coils would
>>     create a phase change and depending on when they are switched
>>     wavelength etc other aspects.  One can create a phased modulation
>>     like the EH antenna or collapse the E component but clockwise
>>     volts counterclock amps I have a mental disconnect on that
>>     claim.  I would love to know if he has substance behind this
>>     claim or hot air.
>>
>>
>>     On 9/29/2018 7:14 PM, James Glinski [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>     I don't know if this is of help but recently I've  noticed that
>>>     with Tesla and two other people who replicated his work making
>>>     miniatures of his towers that the receiving coil is counter
>>>     clockwise .which I' don't think don Smith showed .excel with the
>>>     CW ccw recever one for amps one for volts .but in general nope
>>>     ..everything else seems the same as Tesla .what's up with that
>>>     ?.a trip up for the public ?.
>>>
>>>     On Saturday, September 29, 2018, Mick [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Norm,
>>>
>>>         Wish I had known you then, would have come out for a visit. 
>>>         Those caps how amazing.
>>>
>>>         Did you try earthing the high voltage negative pulses and
>>>         check for a mirror charge in positive?
>>>
>>>         As far as your understanding of the experiment do the little
>>>         batteries work based on that adjustable top load ball he had
>>>         about 80 or so feet up?
>>>
>>>         Was the magnet part strictly electromagnet or a perm magnet
>>>         wrapped into a hybrid perm-electromagnet?
>>>
>>>         My thoughts wold be strictly electromagnet based on how
>>>         magnets are made now, but not sure...
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 9/29/2018 4:30 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Although I have two copies of the Colorado Springs Notes,
>>>>         it was unfortunate that I did not find Page 25 info till
>>>>         2012.  In 2012 I had liquidated the Lab and sole off my 52
>>>>         acre Research Farm and moved back into Dallas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Around 2004, I built Tesla's Disrupter Transformer and
>>>>         Re-worked on of my X-ray supply pot (60KV) by switching the
>>>>         diode array so that the the anode output was now negative
>>>>         output instead of positive to be used  to drive the disrupt
>>>>         coil. I had a HVDC negative power supply at 60KV.  I had a
>>>>         bank of capacitors to charge using the HVDC supply.  I used
>>>>         a large DC long throw HV relay which I could fire at
>>>>         various pulse rates via mechanical insulated actuator.  The
>>>>         60KV caps came out of SLAC, Stanford Linear Accelerator
>>>>         Complex and  I managed to get 60 of them at 2.5 MFD ea. I
>>>>         was discharging about 5 killo-Joules per pulse. The
>>>>         re-charge time of the cap bank dictated the rate of
>>>>         firing.   By discharging the caps through the very powerful
>>>>         magnetic horn gap I got that unidirectional pure negative
>>>>         DC discharge which was a blue white fire and gave the
>>>>         physical shock wave that Tesla described in his
>>>>         experiments. Was an interesting experiment. I just wish I
>>>>         had found the page 25 info while I had my Lab.   Sorry NO,
>>>>         I did not replicate Tesla's page 25 experiment!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         On 9/29/2018 11:05 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         Norm,
>>>>>
>>>>>         Have you replicated this experiment?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         On 9/29/2018 6:22 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Kone! Your quote:  I think Tesla was using a magnet to
>>>>>>         snuff the spark out as you say at just the right distance
>>>>>>         for the 1/8 wavefront prior to it dropping on the other
>>>>>>         side of the 1/4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         DUH!   Please re-read the page 25 from the Colorado
>>>>>>         Springs Notes, for Tesla laid out the fundamentals of how
>>>>>>         to pulse the earth with negative unidirectional
>>>>>>         longitudnal waves using a magnetic quenched discharge
>>>>>>         tube.  Yes ! This was his magnetic rectifier via a
>>>>>>         rapidly quenched discharge tube. This is precisely how
>>>>>>         the Wardencliff system was going to work with the huge
>>>>>>         underground earthing grid.  Sort of like Hector deep
>>>>>>         earth ball.  His findings while experimenting with
>>>>>>         Telegraphy in 1899 allowed his ability to radiate pulses
>>>>>>         into the ground at .020 A or 20 milliamps at 200 VDC
>>>>>>         pulses (unidirectional with negative polarity). The
>>>>>>         elevated antennae terminal carried a positive charge. 
>>>>>>         Tesla, the Master, left this vivid clue as to how your
>>>>>>         ground pulse approach should work.   You do not have to
>>>>>>         re-invent the wheel for it was given to you to improve! 
>>>>>>         BTW, Great work! Norm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         On 9/29/2018 12:36 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Kone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         A cap will not charge with AC unless the waveform is
>>>>>>>         highly asymmetric as each compression or rarefaction
>>>>>>>         would need to be caught at 1/8 - 1/4 wavelength and
>>>>>>>         disconnected to charge with conventional sine wave for
>>>>>>>         instance. Otherwise as you say the charge is equalized
>>>>>>>         with AC.    I think Tesla was using a magnet to snuff
>>>>>>>         the spark out as you say at just the right distance for
>>>>>>>         the 1/8 wavefront prior to it dropping on the other side
>>>>>>>         of the 1/4.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Likely what you were noticing in your experiments as it
>>>>>>>         creates very short DC pulses 1/8 to 1/4 of the
>>>>>>>         wavelength so much higher harmonics than the fundamental.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         High voltage DC in a high rise for instance could cause
>>>>>>>         all sorts of interesting havoc charging up layered walls
>>>>>>>         as capacitors for instance. With a pair of diodes and
>>>>>>>         GDT's the cap will rise in voltage to destruction and
>>>>>>>         the plasma explosions are deafening. First is a hissing
>>>>>>>         as insulation breaks through and the sound of air
>>>>>>>         escaping a punctured tire.  As the air ionizes enough to
>>>>>>>         conduct the voltage stored in the cap with jump with a
>>>>>>>         huge flash and bang, very dangerous!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         The spheres can be purchased inexpensively in China but
>>>>>>>         shipping is another story.   One could use a well I
>>>>>>>         suppose but the danger of killing the well motor and
>>>>>>>         having no water is a risk too high.  Having enough
>>>>>>>         trouble shutting down GFI's around here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         On 9/27/2018 11:51 PM, [email protected]
>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Hi Mick
>>>>>>>>         Just my two cents I noticed with spark gapping
>>>>>>>>         experiments of about 2000v coming from 90 degree to
>>>>>>>>         Airgap of n n pulsed dc ucking coils (konehead motor)
>>>>>>>>         the distance of sparkgap adjusted precise could make
>>>>>>>>         the ac looking pulse and collapse signal suddenly go
>>>>>>>>         all humpy dc with just the right Airgap distance.
>>>>>>>>         Someone told me Tesla uses to use sparkgaps to rectify
>>>>>>>>         HV all the time as no good HV diodes back then.
>>>>>>>>         Also have noticed let's say filling AC cap with
>>>>>>>>         AC...when you disconnect charging of it then use cap to
>>>>>>>>         discharge to load there is usually nothing there like
>>>>>>>>         the forces cancel naturally l don't know
>>>>>>>>         But if you rectify before filling cap now those joules
>>>>>>>>         and potential in there will "stick" and upon discharge
>>>>>>>>         you see a good blast of.power. I noticed same thing
>>>>>>>>         with my peak coil shorting stuff in that without diodes
>>>>>>>>         first to rectify there is nothing when ac cap
>>>>>>>>         discharges to a load...
>>>>>>>>         Have you seen Hector's ground rod with large metal
>>>>>>>>         sphere capacitor ball in air? This would be interesting
>>>>>>>>         to try....maybe restaurant supply store has a couple
>>>>>>>>         giant mixing bowls you could put together for sphere...
>>>>>>>>         I will look around for that circuit drawing and post it
>>>>>>>>         when I find it
>>>>>>>>         Kone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Hi NormSo page 25?We should sit down and give it a thorough read, or re-read, as I remember, as some of it was rambling tough, and hard to follow, at times.
What you are speaking here about makes a lot of sense.Pancake coils are only a flip away from changing direction of wind, are they not?You may also have given some reason that my mysterious result that I got from doing a replication of Doug's DC motor diode experiment, I call the DC Motor Daisy ChainDiode trick, using a whole line of big DC permanent mag motors.That is one I want to repeat, as I think it is a keeper.You have pointed out the likely reason it works. I think the buzzer may be doing the same thing.Why not a line of buzzers in series with bridge rectifiers separating them? It would be cheaper than ten tread mill motors. Have nice big solenoids on those buzzers.Big Delco diesel starter motor solenoids? Ha, ha. Anybody have a case of those?Would it ever be a noisy contraption! Both audio and radio interferance, at once! Need a lead lined box for that sucker, not to speak of some serious contact point cooling, perhaps?Ah, put the whole bugger in an oil bath.Ferro resonance?Cheers Warren
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  On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 at 7:30 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 Although I have two copies of the Colorado Springs Notes, it was unfortunate that I did not find Page 25 info till 2012.  In 2012 I had liquidated the Lab and sole off my 52 acre Research Farm and moved back into Dallas.
 
  

 Around 2004, I built Tesla's Disrupter Transformer and Re-worked on of my X-ray supply pot (60KV) by switching the diode array so that the the anode output was now negative output instead of positive to be used  to drive the disrupt coil. I had a HVDC negative power supply at 60KV.  I had a bank of capacitors to charge using the HVDC supply.  I used a large DC long throw HV relay which I could fire at various pulse rates via mechanical insulated actuator.  The 60KV caps came out of SLAC, Stanford Linear Accelerator Complex and  I managed to get 60 of them at 2.5 MFD ea. I was discharging about 5 killo-Joules per pulse.  The re-charge time of the cap bank dictated the rate of firing.   By discharging the caps through the very powerful magnetic horn gap I got that unidirectional pure negative DC discharge which was a blue white fire and gave the physical shock wave that Tesla described in his experiments. Was an interesting experiment. I just wish I had found the page 25 info while I had my Lab.   Sorry NO, I did not replicate Tesla's page 25 experiment! 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 9/29/2018 11:05 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Norm,
 
Have you replicated this experiment?
 
 On 9/29/2018 6:22 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 

 
 Kone! Your quote:  I think Tesla was using a magnet to snuff the spark out as you say at just the right distance for the 1/8 wavefront prior to it dropping on the other side of the 1/4.
 
 DUH!   Please re-read the page 25 from the Colorado Springs Notes, for Tesla laid out the fundamentals of how to pulse the earth with negative unidirectional longitudnal waves using a magnetic quenched discharge tube.  Yes ! This was his magnetic rectifier via a rapidly quenched discharge tube.  This is precisely how the Wardencliff system was going to work with the huge underground earthing grid.  Sort of like Hector deep earth ball.  His findings while experimenting with Telegraphy in 1899 allowed his ability to radiate pulses into the ground at .020 A or 20 milliamps at 200 VDC pulses (unidirectional with negative polarity).  The elevated antennae terminal carried a positive charge.  Tesla, the Master, left this vivid clue as to how your ground pulse approach should work.   You do not have to re-invent the wheel for it was given to you to improve!  BTW, Great work! Norm
 
 On 9/29/2018 12:36 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Kone,
 
A cap will not charge with AC unless the waveform is highly asymmetric as each compression or rarefaction would need to be caught at 1/8 - 1/4 wavelength and disconnected to charge with conventional sine wave for instance.   Otherwise as you say the charge is equalized with AC.    I think Tesla was using a magnet to snuff the spark out as you say at just the right distance for the 1/8 wavefront prior to it dropping on the other side of the 1/4.
 
Likely what you were noticing in your experiments as it creates very short DC pulses 1/8 to 1/4 of the wavelength so much higher harmonics than the fundamental.
 
High voltage DC in a high rise for instance could cause all sorts of interesting havoc charging up layered walls as capacitors for instance.  With a pair of diodes and GDT's the cap will rise in voltage to destruction and the plasma explosions are deafening.  First is a hissing as insulation breaks through and the sound of air escaping a punctured tire.  As the air ionizes enough to conduct the voltage stored in the cap with jump with a huge flash and bang, very dangerous!
 
 
The spheres can be purchased inexpensively in China but shipping is another story.   One could use a well I suppose but the danger of killing the well motor and having no water is a risk too high.  Having enough trouble shutting down GFI's around here.
 
 
 On 9/27/2018 11:51 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
      
Hi Mick
 Just my two cents I noticed with spark gapping experiments of about 2000v coming from 90 degree to Airgap of n n pulsed dc ucking coils (konehead motor) the distance of sparkgap adjusted precise could make  the ac looking pulse and collapse signal suddenly go all humpy dc with just the right Airgap distance. Someone told me Tesla uses to use sparkgaps to rectify HV all the time as no good HV diodes back then.
 Also have noticed let's say filling AC cap with AC...when you disconnect charging of it then use cap to discharge to load there is usually nothing there like the forces cancel naturally l don't know 
 But if you rectify before filling cap now those joules and potential in there will "stick" and upon discharge you see a good blast of.power. I noticed same thing with my peak coil shorting stuff in that  without diodes first to rectify there is nothing when ac cap discharges to a load...
 Have you seen Hector's ground rod with large metal sphere capacitor ball in air? This would be interesting to try....maybe restaurant supply store has a couple giant mixing bowls you could put together for  sphere...
 I will look around for that circuit drawing and post it when I find it
 Kone
 
    
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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Norm,

Preferred path theory, would that just be the road of lowest
reluctance?  Any books you recommend concerning this?

Have so many superceded laptops here from the sold IT company that we
just dedicate one to a HDMI channel on the TV.  It's high res but not 4k
but is fine for text or art with a large screen and nice to work from
the couch.  I don't know how I would feel about a TV as smart as yours
connected to the internet, would have to sniff it for a month to see
whats what.

I looked up the youtube terms of service and they claim if I verify a
new account I can upload something very large.  I can run to my friends
with a big pipe to upload so would be happy to do so unless Konehead has
a preferred youtube account he would like to use.

Let me know what Kone says and I can privately send you my mailing addy
for the DVD.




On 9/30/2018 10:19 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> Preferred Path theory

Norm,

What kind of Theta device did you build?  This sounds very interesting
as it dovetails into some of what I am experimenting with looking for
that point of flux control a la MEG or Radus etc.

Assuming you mean a Theta Pinch like the TMT

Very interested, more data please!


On 9/30/2018 10:19 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> Theta Device

Page 18 of that Trinkaus Book very interesting circuit!


On 9/30/2018 10:19 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> Theta Device

See comments!
On 9/30/2018 9:51 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> I get it, the air capacitance between top load and ground acts to 
> amplify the spark gap longitudinal crack into longer stroked pumping 
> action, the pulley is to tune that response to the 1/8-1/4 wave of the 
> fundamental used in the spark gap.  Boingy boingy boing
>
(You got it(!
>
> Did you find any advantage to sizing the response of a spark gap just 
> under the 1/4 wave before the waveform begins to flatten?  I think 
> Tesla was at times using 90 percent of the 1/4 wave resonance for 
> tuning his gaps which also adds useful beat modulation.
>
I had more important thing to do rather getting into tuning for 
fractions of wavelencyh!
>
> Longitudinal waves are still possible without the rectification if one 
> has other ways of phase modding the RF but on the receiving side one 
> needs to add the check valves for the pump to function.
>
(True)
>
> I will look around for a proper video hosting platform, since I am not 
> a youtube user I would have to break it into 10 or 15 minute pieces as 
> I have not "earned" the long play option.  I will gladly look into 
> this Norm.  In case Kone has the time inclination and long play on 
> youtube we can work it out between us, I look forward to this.
>
Thanks! I'm getting older by the day and want to share the content of 
the presentation. Folks have put my other presentations on YouTube so 
all acn see. The KeelyNet Conference at which I met Doug History of the 
EV Gray Motors was shot there in 2001.   The Tesla Conference SUPER 
STEAM videos I did for Leonard Dorsett are on YouTube also Circa, 19 94.
>
> I was wondering about his little tin-carbon air batteries how they are 
> charged.
>
No clue about Tesla charging batteries!
>
> Those old Klystrons are beautiful, all the amazing old tech that was 
> scrapped from the Air Force and now they cant see aircraft unless it's 
> active with a transponder so they left a few of these long distance 
> sites still running and gave them to the FAA to support.  The new 
> technology is higher frequency so those old giant klystrons and 
> rotating SAGE antenna can see further longwave!  Had no idea each one 
> had 600 lbs of magnets.
>
When the Centers FAA and AirForce in the South West upgraded and went to 
new generation pulled all these 200 mile range, large radar units and 
sent them to scrap yards as salvage!  GOD, I got a lot of interesting 
parts by wrecking them down! Those large Klystrons were submerged in oil 
and had water coolant lines running through the ubit  to keep it cool! 
Consumed some killowatts!
>
> What did you find in your MRA experiments and other experiments with 
> magnets as to how and when one could steer and modulate perm mag flux 
> with electric circuits?
>
After reading Tesla and the idea of Preferred Path theory for magnetic 
flux, got into building the very old Theta Device which worked like Tom 
Beardens MEG.    That was the origin of magnetic rectifier. BTW!  The US 
Navy was heavy into Magnetic Amplification techniques!

>
> On 9/30/2018 5:47 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> See remarks!
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>> On 9/29/2018 6:46 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>> Norm,
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>>> Wish I had known you then, would have come out for a visit.  Those 
>>> caps how amazing.     I literally had a tons of large powerful caps 
>>> that mostly came out of Stanford University Linear Accelerator 
>>> Lab.   Bert Pool & Phill still have many of the big Sangamo caps in 
>>> there goodie pile!
>>>
>>> Did you try earthing the high voltage negative pulses and check for 
>>> a mirror charge in positive?     The earthing of pulses was done 
>>> with the Neutral Spike experiments. There is a pronounced earth 
>>> response to pulses!  Please stop and think about the elevated 
>>> positive terminal aka Tesla. Think about the hydraulic analog here 
>>> as to the function of the upper terminal.  Think water hammer where 
>>> the work is being done at the earth negative going pulses and the 
>>> positive side is the pressure accumulator! (potential driverz).  I 
>>> think you can get the picture.  Tesla said many times that a proper 
>>> wotrking example of his theory would not have any spark discharges 
>>> at upper capacitive terminal.. Would be a waste of energy. Artist 
>>> concepts of Wardencliff tower depict lightning bolts iminating from 
>>> uper capacitance terminal.  WRONG!    Properly tuned to drive earth 
>>> spiking there is no terminal discharge at all.
>>>
>>> As far as your understanding of the experiment do the little 
>>> batteries work based on that adjustable top load ball he had about 
>>> 80 or so feet up? Little batteries were used by Tesla for the 
>>> Telegraphy experiments of 1899.
>>>
>>> Was the magnet part strictly electromagnet or a perm magnet wrapped 
>>> into a hybrid perm-electromagnet?   Permanent magnets for I had many 
>>> hundreds of pounds of all types of magnets known.  Neos, I had 
>>> hundreds of pounds of them. Alnico 8 same there for I was wrecking 
>>> down RCA Klystrons out of high power radar.  One Klystron = 600 # of 
>>> Alnico 8 magnets.  They brought $6 /# at that time.
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>>> My thoughts wold be strictly electromagnet based on how magnets are 
>>> made now, but not sure... Electromagnets are more powerful but the 
>>> right Neos do the trick!
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>>> On 9/29/2018 4:30 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>> Although I have two copies of the Colorado Springs Notes, it was 
>>>> unfortunate that I did not find Page 25 info till 2012.  In 2012 I 
>>>> had liquidated the Lab and sole off my 52 acre Research Farm and 
>>>> moved back into Dallas.
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>>>> Around 2004, I built Tesla's Disrupter Transformer and Re-worked on 
>>>> of my X-ray supply pot (60KV) by switching the diode array so that 
>>>> the the anode output was now negative output instead of positive to 
>>>> be used  to drive the disrupt coil. I had a HVDC negative power 
>>>> supply at 60KV.  I had a bank of capacitors to charge using the 
>>>> HVDC supply.  I used a large DC long throw HV relay which I could 
>>>> fire at various pulse rates via mechanical insulated actuator.  The 
>>>> 60KV caps came out of SLAC, Stanford Linear Accelerator Complex 
>>>> and  I managed to get 60 of them at 2.5 MFD ea. I was discharging 
>>>> about 5 killo-Joules per pulse.  The re-charge time of the cap bank 
>>>> dictated the rate of firing.   By discharging the caps through the 
>>>> very powerful magnetic horn gap I got that unidirectional pure 
>>>> negative DC discharge which was a blue white fire and gave the 
>>>> physical shock wave that Tesla described in his experiments. Was an 
>>>> interesting experiment. I just wish I had found the page 25 info 
>>>> while I had my Lab. Sorry NO, I did not replicate Tesla's page 25 
>>>> experiment!
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>>>> On 9/29/2018 11:05 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>>> Norm,
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>>>>> Have you replicated this experiment?
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>>>>> On 9/29/2018 6:22 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>>>> Kone! Your quote:  I think Tesla was using a magnet to snuff the 
>>>>>> spark out as you say at just the right distance for the 1/8 
>>>>>> wavefront prior to it dropping on the other side of the 1/4.
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>>>>>> DUH!   Please re-read the page 25 from the Colorado Springs 
>>>>>> Notes, for Tesla laid out the fundamentals of how to pulse the 
>>>>>> earth with negative unidirectional longitudnal waves using a 
>>>>>> magnetic quenched discharge tube.  Yes ! This was his magnetic 
>>>>>> rectifier via a rapidly quenched discharge tube.  This is 
>>>>>> precisely how the Wardencliff system was going to work with the 
>>>>>> huge underground earthing grid.  Sort of like Hector deep earth 
>>>>>> ball.  His findings while experimenting with Telegraphy in 1899 
>>>>>> allowed his ability to radiate pulses into the ground at .020 A 
>>>>>> or 20 milliamps at 200 VDC pulses (unidirectional with negative 
>>>>>> polarity).  The elevated antennae terminal carried a positive 
>>>>>> charge. Tesla, the Master, left this vivid clue as to how your 
>>>>>> ground pulse approach should work.   You do not have to re-invent 
>>>>>> the wheel for it was given to you to improve!  BTW, Great work! Norm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/29/2018 12:36 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>>>>> Kone,
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>>>>>>> A cap will not charge with AC unless the waveform is highly 
>>>>>>> asymmetric as each compression or rarefaction would need to be 
>>>>>>> caught at 1/8 - 1/4 wavelength and disconnected to charge with 
>>>>>>> conventional sine wave for instance.   Otherwise as you say the 
>>>>>>> charge is equalized with AC.    I think Tesla was using a magnet 
>>>>>>> to snuff the spark out as you say at just the right distance for 
>>>>>>> the 1/8 wavefront prior to it dropping on the other side of the 1/4.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Likely what you were noticing in your experiments as it creates 
>>>>>>> very short DC pulses 1/8 to 1/4 of the wavelength so much higher 
>>>>>>> harmonics than the fundamental.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> High voltage DC in a high rise for instance could cause all 
>>>>>>> sorts of interesting havoc charging up layered walls as 
>>>>>>> capacitors for instance.  With a pair of diodes and GDT's the 
>>>>>>> cap will rise in voltage to destruction and the plasma 
>>>>>>> explosions are deafening. First is a hissing as insulation 
>>>>>>> breaks through and the sound of air escaping a punctured tire.  
>>>>>>> As the air ionizes enough to conduct the voltage stored in the 
>>>>>>> cap with jump with a huge flash and bang, very dangerous!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The spheres can be purchased inexpensively in China but shipping 
>>>>>>> is another story.   One could use a well I suppose but the 
>>>>>>> danger of killing the well motor and having no water is a risk 
>>>>>>> too high.  Having enough trouble shutting down GFI's around here.
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> On 9/27/2018 11:51 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>>>>>> Hi Mick
>>>>>>>> Just my two cents I noticed with spark gapping experiments of 
>>>>>>>> about 2000v coming from 90 degree to Airgap of n n pulsed dc 
>>>>>>>> ucking coils (konehead motor) the distance of sparkgap adjusted 
>>>>>>>> precise could make the ac looking pulse and collapse signal 
>>>>>>>> suddenly go all humpy dc with just the right Airgap distance. 
>>>>>>>> Someone told me Tesla uses to use sparkgaps to rectify HV all 
>>>>>>>> the time as no good HV diodes back then.
>>>>>>>> Also have noticed let's say filling AC cap with AC...when you 
>>>>>>>> disconnect charging of it then use cap to discharge to load 
>>>>>>>> there is usually nothing there like the forces cancel naturally 
>>>>>>>> l don't know
>>>>>>>> But if you rectify before filling cap now those joules and 
>>>>>>>> potential in there will "stick" and upon discharge you see a 
>>>>>>>> good blast of.power. I noticed same thing with my peak coil 
>>>>>>>> shorting stuff in that without diodes first to rectify there is 
>>>>>>>> nothing when ac cap discharges to a load...
>>>>>>>> Have you seen Hector's ground rod with large metal sphere 
>>>>>>>> capacitor ball in air? This would be interesting to 
>>>>>>>> try....maybe restaurant supply store has a couple giant mixing 
>>>>>>>> bowls you could put together for sphere...
>>>>>>>> I will look around for that circuit drawing and post it when I 
>>>>>>>> find it
>>>>>>>> Kone
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Norm I have other RF sources .but the idea of a cheap higher power RF was
tempting .the source use by the mini replicators were RF wave form
generators but low power stuff .if only they had indicated just which wave
form was best it would of saved a lot of lab time checking .

Hi Mick
I don't know how to put up very large files like Norms DVD into You tube I do have a YouTube account and channel (MrDkonzen) but have files uploaded always umder 7 mimutes there since my files on my video camera  need to be converted and that is.max for file converting I cam do at presemt...youcould use my account I suppose and I could email password but maybe better if you go with the idea you have now down there. You might need permission from Steve elswicks company tesla tech to put up the video since they filmed it and he told me once they.make their money from selling dvds of presenters at their conferences.
Kone