Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Reguaging a pancake coil [3 Attachments]

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James! Mick is absolutely correct in that you have to create a pulse 
train of Negative, unidirectional DC to get the longitudinal waves. In 
my opinion, after studying the pancake coil winding techniques, I 
settled on the two counter wound coils to duplicate Tels's coil. You 
have to phase cancel the vectorials to get the longitudinal pulses 
(stripped of E&H fields).   The powerful magnetic quench insures no 
ringing in discharge and follows Tesla's early work in magnetic 
rectification. It works!


On 9/29/2018 11:23 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> James,
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> A CB does not transmit longitudinal modulated waves as do Tesla spark 
> gap devices. One will be missing the pumping action with regular 
> crystal controlled AM without some mods.  There is a reason why so 
> many replications of Tesla don't work and that is people substitute 
> modern parts.
>
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> On 9/29/2018 7:40 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> Well from what I've seen lately it's kind of simple to replicate 
>> .Tesla tower in miniature and it works with the counter clockwise 
>> coil.two matching coils pancake and a radio wave source ...and some 
>> thing to wave form it .I was thinking a cheap 27 Chanel citizens band 
>> radio they have crystal frequency control .at about 4 Watts .if the 
>> replicators are right you can get from 5 to 10 times back .there's 
>> really nothing much there but two coils a ball covered in foil and a 
>> radio source . just looking for now .
>>
>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018, Mick [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>     James,
>>
>>     Don Smith had some very strange ideas such as the counter wound
>>     one amp the other volts.  I certainly do not get this reasoning
>>     but again may be missing something.  Counterwinding coils would
>>     create a phase change and depending on when they are switched
>>     wavelength etc other aspects.  One can create a phased modulation
>>     like the EH antenna or collapse the E component but clockwise
>>     volts counterclock amps I have a mental disconnect on that
>>     claim.  I would love to know if he has substance behind this
>>     claim or hot air.
>>
>>
>>     On 9/29/2018 7:14 PM, James Glinski [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>     I don't know if this is of help but recently I've  noticed that
>>>     with Tesla and two other people who replicated his work making
>>>     miniatures of his towers that the receiving coil is counter
>>>     clockwise .which I' don't think don Smith showed .excel with the
>>>     CW ccw recever one for amps one for volts .but in general nope
>>>     ..everything else seems the same as Tesla .what's up with that
>>>     ?.a trip up for the public ?.
>>>
>>>     On Saturday, September 29, 2018, Mick [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>>         Norm,
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>>>         Wish I had known you then, would have come out for a visit. 
>>>         Those caps how amazing.
>>>
>>>         Did you try earthing the high voltage negative pulses and
>>>         check for a mirror charge in positive?
>>>
>>>         As far as your understanding of the experiment do the little
>>>         batteries work based on that adjustable top load ball he had
>>>         about 80 or so feet up?
>>>
>>>         Was the magnet part strictly electromagnet or a perm magnet
>>>         wrapped into a hybrid perm-electromagnet?
>>>
>>>         My thoughts wold be strictly electromagnet based on how
>>>         magnets are made now, but not sure...
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 9/29/2018 4:30 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>>         Although I have two copies of the Colorado Springs Notes,
>>>>         it was unfortunate that I did not find Page 25 info till
>>>>         2012.  In 2012 I had liquidated the Lab and sole off my 52
>>>>         acre Research Farm and moved back into Dallas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Around 2004, I built Tesla's Disrupter Transformer and
>>>>         Re-worked on of my X-ray supply pot (60KV) by switching the
>>>>         diode array so that the the anode output was now negative
>>>>         output instead of positive to be used  to drive the disrupt
>>>>         coil. I had a HVDC negative power supply at 60KV.  I had a
>>>>         bank of capacitors to charge using the HVDC supply.  I used
>>>>         a large DC long throw HV relay which I could fire at
>>>>         various pulse rates via mechanical insulated actuator.  The
>>>>         60KV caps came out of SLAC, Stanford Linear Accelerator
>>>>         Complex and  I managed to get 60 of them at 2.5 MFD ea. I
>>>>         was discharging about 5 killo-Joules per pulse. The
>>>>         re-charge time of the cap bank dictated the rate of
>>>>         firing.   By discharging the caps through the very powerful
>>>>         magnetic horn gap I got that unidirectional pure negative
>>>>         DC discharge which was a blue white fire and gave the
>>>>         physical shock wave that Tesla described in his
>>>>         experiments. Was an interesting experiment. I just wish I
>>>>         had found the page 25 info while I had my Lab.   Sorry NO,
>>>>         I did not replicate Tesla's page 25 experiment!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>         On 9/29/2018 11:05 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>>>         Norm,
>>>>>
>>>>>         Have you replicated this experiment?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         On 9/29/2018 6:22 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Kone! Your quote:  I think Tesla was using a magnet to
>>>>>>         snuff the spark out as you say at just the right distance
>>>>>>         for the 1/8 wavefront prior to it dropping on the other
>>>>>>         side of the 1/4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         DUH!   Please re-read the page 25 from the Colorado
>>>>>>         Springs Notes, for Tesla laid out the fundamentals of how
>>>>>>         to pulse the earth with negative unidirectional
>>>>>>         longitudnal waves using a magnetic quenched discharge
>>>>>>         tube.  Yes ! This was his magnetic rectifier via a
>>>>>>         rapidly quenched discharge tube. This is precisely how
>>>>>>         the Wardencliff system was going to work with the huge
>>>>>>         underground earthing grid.  Sort of like Hector deep
>>>>>>         earth ball.  His findings while experimenting with
>>>>>>         Telegraphy in 1899 allowed his ability to radiate pulses
>>>>>>         into the ground at .020 A or 20 milliamps at 200 VDC
>>>>>>         pulses (unidirectional with negative polarity). The
>>>>>>         elevated antennae terminal carried a positive charge. 
>>>>>>         Tesla, the Master, left this vivid clue as to how your
>>>>>>         ground pulse approach should work.   You do not have to
>>>>>>         re-invent the wheel for it was given to you to improve! 
>>>>>>         BTW, Great work! Norm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         On 9/29/2018 12:36 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>>>>>         Kone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         A cap will not charge with AC unless the waveform is
>>>>>>>         highly asymmetric as each compression or rarefaction
>>>>>>>         would need to be caught at 1/8 - 1/4 wavelength and
>>>>>>>         disconnected to charge with conventional sine wave for
>>>>>>>         instance. Otherwise as you say the charge is equalized
>>>>>>>         with AC.    I think Tesla was using a magnet to snuff
>>>>>>>         the spark out as you say at just the right distance for
>>>>>>>         the 1/8 wavefront prior to it dropping on the other side
>>>>>>>         of the 1/4.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Likely what you were noticing in your experiments as it
>>>>>>>         creates very short DC pulses 1/8 to 1/4 of the
>>>>>>>         wavelength so much higher harmonics than the fundamental.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         High voltage DC in a high rise for instance could cause
>>>>>>>         all sorts of interesting havoc charging up layered walls
>>>>>>>         as capacitors for instance. With a pair of diodes and
>>>>>>>         GDT's the cap will rise in voltage to destruction and
>>>>>>>         the plasma explosions are deafening. First is a hissing
>>>>>>>         as insulation breaks through and the sound of air
>>>>>>>         escaping a punctured tire.  As the air ionizes enough to
>>>>>>>         conduct the voltage stored in the cap with jump with a
>>>>>>>         huge flash and bang, very dangerous!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         The spheres can be purchased inexpensively in China but
>>>>>>>         shipping is another story.   One could use a well I
>>>>>>>         suppose but the danger of killing the well motor and
>>>>>>>         having no water is a risk too high.  Having enough
>>>>>>>         trouble shutting down GFI's around here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         On 9/27/2018 11:51 PM, [email protected]
>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Hi Mick
>>>>>>>>         Just my two cents I noticed with spark gapping
>>>>>>>>         experiments of about 2000v coming from 90 degree to
>>>>>>>>         Airgap of n n pulsed dc ucking coils (konehead motor)
>>>>>>>>         the distance of sparkgap adjusted precise could make
>>>>>>>>         the ac looking pulse and collapse signal suddenly go
>>>>>>>>         all humpy dc with just the right Airgap distance.
>>>>>>>>         Someone told me Tesla uses to use sparkgaps to rectify
>>>>>>>>         HV all the time as no good HV diodes back then.
>>>>>>>>         Also have noticed let's say filling AC cap with
>>>>>>>>         AC...when you disconnect charging of it then use cap to
>>>>>>>>         discharge to load there is usually nothing there like
>>>>>>>>         the forces cancel naturally l don't know
>>>>>>>>         But if you rectify before filling cap now those joules
>>>>>>>>         and potential in there will "stick" and upon discharge
>>>>>>>>         you see a good blast of.power. I noticed same thing
>>>>>>>>         with my peak coil shorting stuff in that without diodes
>>>>>>>>         first to rectify there is nothing when ac cap
>>>>>>>>         discharges to a load...
>>>>>>>>         Have you seen Hector's ground rod with large metal
>>>>>>>>         sphere capacitor ball in air? This would be interesting
>>>>>>>>         to try....maybe restaurant supply store has a couple
>>>>>>>>         giant mixing bowls you could put together for sphere...
>>>>>>>>         I will look around for that circuit drawing and post it
>>>>>>>>         when I find it
>>>>>>>>         Kone
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