Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Is Thorium Power Being Suppressed?

Warren you seem pretty inteligent & up on what's what!!! So if I was to e-mail [email protected] W/ MY CONCEPT would/could you decide on feasability? I don't want to JUST THROW IT OUT ON THE WEB YET !!?
 Also I allready got some delron & I can do whatever needs to be done on my milling machine,I allready have a lot (50) of brushes to make the holder for,I nought them for cheap shipping was more!GET BACK TO ME & LET ME KNOW 

   

 On Sunday, June 17, 2018 4:58 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     WernerI love your thinkingI machine up my brush holders, but one can also simply buy nice industrial ones pretty cheap, (after I had mine made already)phenolic with the linen cloth in it is good, but so is epoxy and glass fiber.Hobart or Lincoln motor generator brushes for pipeline work use DC. with brushes. A welder's supply has spares for really big amperage work.Cheers Warren

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  On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 9:55 AM, werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       OK WARREN the setup I have now is a little over 1kw solar panels&8 batterys . My power bill is around $50 $32 of it is for  the meters onlyno use at all !!! Right now I am working on a SELF RUNNING GENERATOR all that's left to do is make the BRUSH HOLDER ,been working on it for 5years I hav'nt said anything about it because it is VERY SIMPLE NO ELECTRONICS &IT is not done when I get the results & some numbers THEN I WILL GIVE THE INFO . 

    On Saturday, June 16, 2018 2:52 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     WernerDon't despair. Think of your individual energy problems, and solve those.By being successful on a small scale, it can show others how it can be done.Thorium is available in small quantities.A back yard nuclear generator may not be desireable if your nut case neighbour is building one, considering the mess he made building his garden shed.
Cutting down on simply wasting the energy one consumes, makes the job easier.The end solution may be very simple, and small.Cheers Warren
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  On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:07 PM, werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       EXCELLENT INFORMATION now the problem is what can be done ???As far as I can see there is little to nothing can be done they have us by our ?!?!?!?! .  There are too many reactors & high end people to do anything except waste time complaining to politicians WHO WON'T DO A THING EXCEPT  PROMISE HOT AIR &DO 00000  ! 

    On Friday, June 15, 2018 7:19 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     Nuclear generators are used for generating weapons grade plutonium 239, nothing more, we have been led down the proverbial Garden Path my friends... 

Virtually any combination of plutonium isotopes -- the different forms of an element having different numbers of neutrons in their nuclei -- can be used to make a nuclear weapon. Not all combinations, however, are equally convenient or efficient.
 The most common isotope, plutonium-239, is produced when the most common isotope of uranium, uranium-238, absorbs a neutron and then quickly decays to plutonium. It is this plutonium isotope that is most useful in making nuclear weapons, and it is produced in varying quantities in virtually all operating nuclear reactors. As fuel in a reactor is exposed to longer and longer periods of neutron irradiation, higher isotopes of plutonium build up as some of the plutonium absorbs additional neutrons, creating plutonium-240, plutonium-241, and so on. Plutonium-238 also builds up from a chain of neutron absorptions and radioactive decays starting from uranium-235. 

Source:http://www.ccnr.org/plute.html
   

       
  

       
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WernerDelrin is fine as long as they don't get hot. Doug showed me the diode bridge across the brushes trick, where you actually harvest the sparks that make the heat at the commutator, which keeps it cool, as can be.
If you, also, have a milling machine, you don't need much advice from me.You are way over the top from most people in the forum. Although not essentual, milling machines help a lot, sometimes.With delrine you can use wood working machines such as routers to create shapesCheers Warren
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  On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 5:16 PM, werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Warren you seem pretty inteligent & up on what's what!!! So if I was to e-mail [email protected] W/ MY CONCEPT would/could you decide on feasability? I don't want to JUST THROW IT OUT ON THE WEB YET !!?
 Also I allready got some delron & I can do whatever needs to be done on my milling machine,I allready have a lot (50) of brushes to make the holder for,I nought them for cheap shipping was more!GET BACK TO ME & LET ME KNOW 

   

 On Sunday, June 17, 2018 4:58 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     WernerI love your thinkingI machine up my brush holders, but one can also simply buy nice industrial ones pretty cheap, (after I had mine made already)phenolic with the linen cloth in it is good, but so is epoxy and glass fiber.Hobart or Lincoln motor generator brushes for pipeline work use DC. with brushes. A welder's supply has spares for really big amperage work.Cheers Warren

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  On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 9:55 AM, werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       OK WARREN the setup I have now is a little over 1kw solar panels&8 batterys . My power bill is around $50 $32 of it is for  the meters onlyno use at all !!! Right now I am working on a SELF RUNNING GENERATOR all that's left to do is make the BRUSH HOLDER ,been working on it for 5years I hav'nt said anything about it because it is VERY SIMPLE NO ELECTRONICS &IT is not done when I get the results & some numbers THEN I WILL GIVE THE INFO . 

    On Saturday, June 16, 2018 2:52 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     WernerDon't despair. Think of your individual energy problems, and solve those.By being successful on a small scale, it can show others how it can be done.Thorium is available in small quantities.A back yard nuclear generator may not be desireable if your nut case neighbour is building one, considering the mess he made building his garden shed.
Cutting down on simply wasting the energy one consumes, makes the job easier.The end solution may be very simple, and small.Cheers Warren
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  On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:07 PM, werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       EXCELLENT INFORMATION now the problem is what can be done ???As far as I can see there is little to nothing can be done they have us by our ?!?!?!?! .  There are too many reactors & high end people to do anything except waste time complaining to politicians WHO WON'T DO A THING EXCEPT  PROMISE HOT AIR &DO 00000  ! 

    On Friday, June 15, 2018 7:19 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     Nuclear generators are used for generating weapons grade plutonium 239, nothing more, we have been led down the proverbial Garden Path my friends... 

Virtually any combination of plutonium isotopes -- the different forms of an element having different numbers of neutrons in their nuclei -- can be used to make a nuclear weapon. Not all combinations, however, are equally convenient or efficient.
 The most common isotope, plutonium-239, is produced when the most common isotope of uranium, uranium-238, absorbs a neutron and then quickly decays to plutonium. It is this plutonium isotope that is most useful in making nuclear weapons, and it is produced in varying quantities in virtually all operating nuclear reactors. As fuel in a reactor is exposed to longer and longer periods of neutron irradiation, higher isotopes of plutonium build up as some of the plutonium absorbs additional neutrons, creating plutonium-240, plutonium-241, and so on. Plutonium-238 also builds up from a chain of neutron absorptions and radioactive decays starting from uranium-235. 

Source:http://www.ccnr.org/plute.html
   

       
  

       
  

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Long ago i posted schematic to use a second set of brushes to harvest the CEMP  as first brushes release the commutators and do arc ....

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 Werner Delrin is fine as long as they don't get hot.
  Doug showed me the diode bridge across the brushes trick, where you actually harvest the sparks that make the heat at the commutator, which keeps it cool, as can be.
If you, also, have a milling machine, you don't need much advice from me.
 You are way over the top from most people in the forum. Although not essentual, milling machines help a lot, sometimes.
 With delrine you can use wood working machines such as routers to create shapes
 Cheers Warren
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature
 
 On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 5:16 PM, werner held heldfabrication@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   
 Warren you seem pretty inteligent & up on what's what!!! So if I was to e-mail schoonersolscticemoon@... W/ MY CONCEPT would/could you decide on feasability? I don't want to JUST THROW IT OUT ON THE WEB YET !!?


 Also I allready got some delron & I can do whatever needs to be done on my milling machine,I allready have a lot (50) of brushes to make the holder for,I nought them for cheap shipping was more!
 GET BACK TO ME & LET ME KNOW 






 


 On Sunday, June 17, 2018 4:58 AM, "Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

 

   Werner
 I love your thinking
 I machine up my brush holders, but one can also simply buy nice industrial ones pretty cheap, (after I had mine made already)phenolic with the linen cloth in it is good, but so is epoxy and glass fiber.
 Hobart or Lincoln motor generator brushes for pipeline work use DC. with brushes. A welder's supply has spares for really big amperage work.
 Cheers Warren

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 On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 9:55 AM, werner held heldfabrication@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   
 OK WARREN the setup I have now is a little over 1kw solar panels&8 batterys . My power bill is around $50 $32 of it is for  the meters only
 no use at all !!! Right now I am working on a SELF RUNNING GENERATOR all that's left to do is make the BRUSH HOLDER ,been working on it for 5years I hav'nt said anything about it because it is VERY SIMPLE NO ELECTRONICS &IT is not done when I get the results & some numbers THEN I WILL GIVE THE INFO .
 


 On Saturday, June 16, 2018 2:52 AM, "Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

 

   Werner
 Don't despair. Think of your individual energy problems, and solve those.
 By being successful on a small scale, it can show others how it can be done.
 Thorium is available in small quantities.
 A back yard nuclear generator may not be desireable if your nut case neighbour is building one, considering the mess he made building his garden shed.
Cutting down on simply wasting the energy one consumes, makes the job easier.
 The end solution may be very simple, and small.
 Cheers Warren
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 On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:07 PM, werner held heldfabrication@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   
 EXCELLENT INFORMATION now the problem is what can be done ???As far as I can see there is little to nothing can be done they have us by our ?!?!?!?! .  There are too many reactors & high end people to do anything except waste time complaining to politicians WHO WON'T DO A THING EXCEPT  PROMISE HOT AIR &DO 00000  !
 


 On Friday, June 15, 2018 7:19 AM, "edarrell71@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

 

   Nuclear generators are used for generating weapons grade plutonium 239, nothing more, we have been led down the proverbial Garden Path my friends... 

 

 Virtually any combination of plutonium isotopes -- the different forms of an element having different numbers of neutrons in their nuclei -- can be used to make a nuclear weapon. Not all combinations, however, are equally convenient or efficient.
 

  The most common isotope, plutonium-239, is produced when the most common isotope of uranium, uranium-238, absorbs a neutron and then quickly decays to plutonium. It is this plutonium isotope that is most useful in making nuclear weapons, and it is produced in varying quantities in virtually all operating nuclear reactors. As fuel in a reactor is exposed to longer and longer periods of neutron irradiation, higher isotopes of plutonium build up as some of the plutonium absorbs additional neutrons, creating plutonium-240, plutonium-241, and so on. Plutonium-238 also builds up from a chain of neutron absorptions and radioactive decays starting from uranium-235. 

 

 Source:http://www.ccnr.org/plute.html

Hi Werner,
 

 Warren is not ignoring you, just that he has his shop cleared out and the spray foamer's are in there and he is up to his hips in alligators.
 

 He says thank you for for your trust and he would be glad to check out your device. He can't replicate at this time but he can do the evaluation and if you are comfortable with the idea I can do a replication.
 

 Some of my projects:
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPSsXKp_hWw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPSsXKp_hWw

 

 and check the side bar?
 

 Ron

Hi Ron 
I saw Bedini video of air cored zero force motor he did
 and it was going 2000rpm at 12v and 100ma
He slipped in an iron core now the motor had zero amp draw but he says it "tears up" the motor I guess too much power and speed I don't know...
You don't show current draw in your video...is it similar to bedini version?
Kone

Hi Hector
According to frequency of motor and pulse widh,  you then adjust the delayed timing of when that 2nd brush connects....more delay time if slower rpms less delay if faster rpms....generally it's about 5 degree delay time 
Idea is to have same pulse width to recovery brush as primary brush and to make an echo effect with timing of 2nd recovery brush.
If rotor happens to be permanent magnets nsnsnsns
Then send primary pulse in 4 times a revolution such as at n  n  n  n  magnet in one revolution
At the  s  s. s  s magnets in rotor,  time the recovery brush to give very strong push or pull against s magnet,  so very good rotor speed up when recovery hits load of caps or battery to charge or whatever
Kone

yes & the same applies to normal DC motors .... (H) 
 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

 Hi Hector
 According to frequency of motor and pulse widh, you then adjust the delayed timing of when that 2nd brush connects....more delay time if slower rpms less delay if faster rpms....generally it's about 5 degree delay time 
 Idea is to have same pulse width to recovery brush as primary brush and to make an echo effect with timing of 2nd recovery brush.
 If rotor happens to be permanent magnets nsnsnsns
 Then send primary pulse in 4 times a revolution such as at n n n n magnet in one revolution
 At the s s. s s magnets in rotor, time the recovery brush to give very strong push or pull against s magnet, so very good rotor speed up when recovery hits load of caps or battery to charge or whatever
 Kone

Hi Kone,
 

 Yes, somewhat similar.  That was in answer to Aaron...
 

 Your circuit is not even close to Bedini's ZFM circuit. You need the bipolar sequential Bedini-Cole switch to reverse the polarity of the coils. So this is certainly not a ZFM replication - nor is most of the other "replications"

 

 So I did up this one, LOL.  "They" were making the claim that with their improved model they were getting 30% (?) efficiency so as mine was running at over 60%,  that ended the conversation.
 

 Ron

Hi Ron
Just wondering if you could show zero amps on meter like bedini showed and if you think that is possible and what was amps with yours as it is in video?
Kone

Hi Kone,
 

 Not a chance!  John liked to play games with us for sure, trying to make us think... didn't always work ... in my case, LOL 
 

 Would love to know the secret of the giant pendulum motor that he showed....
 

 Ron

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-ab&ei=_jYqW5amJtDr5gLezqeYBA&q=electric+pendulum+&oq=electric+pendulum+&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0l6j0i22i30k1l3j0i22i10i30k1.6688.6688.0.19488.1.1.0.0.0.0.1074.1074.7-1.1.0....0...1c..64.psy-ab..0.1.1072....0.MayYTsF-yAg https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-ab&ei=_jYqW5amJtDr5gLezqeYBA&q=electric+pendulum+&oq=electric+pendulum+&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0l6j0i22i30k1l3j0i22i10i30k1.6688.6688.0.19488.1.1.0.0.0.0.1074.1074.7-1.1.0....0...1c..64.psy-ab..0.1.1072....0.MayYTsF-yAg

Here are all the pendulum secrets !  just add a coil-banger recovery alike circuit to recover the CEMFP  and there you are ! 

(H) 

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 Hi Kone,
 

 Not a chance!  John liked to play games with us for sure, trying to make us think... didn't always work ... in my case, LOL 
 

 Would love to know the secret of the giant pendulum motor that he showed....
 

 Ron

He needs the magical machumaccalit dingaling ding dong chonka-chonka circuit he copied from Kone recovery circuits and mine ! 

(H)  
PFFFffttt! 

---In [email protected], <iron1of1@...> wrote :

 
 Hi Kone,
 

 Yes, somewhat similar.  That was in answer to Aaron...
 

 Your circuit is not even close to Bedini's ZFM circuit. You need the bipolar sequential Bedini-Cole switch to reverse the polarity of the coils. So this is certainly not a ZFM replication - nor is most of the other "replications"

 

 So I did up this one, LOL.  "They" were making the claim that with their improved model they were getting 30% (?) efficiency so as mine was running at over 60%,  that ended the conversation.
 

 Ron