Mystery machine

104 messages · 2018-05-10T19:36:02+00:00 → 2018-06-21T15:02:51+00:00
Ed,

Fantastic!


On 6/5/2018 1:46 AM, Eduardo Codina [email protected] [EVGRAY] 
wrote:
> Wazza (affectionate Strine for Warren),
> Off Subject, but could be inspirational to heat your barn with 
> something like this guy is doing in Nebraska, cold as buggery like 
> your place, specially if you have acreage and digger.
> Cheers
> Nebraska retiree uses earths's heat to grow oranges in snow 
> <https://youtu.be/ZD_3_gsgsnk>
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>     Nebraska retiree uses earths's heat to grow oranges in snow
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> Winter temperatures in Alliance, Nebraska can drop to -20°F (the 
> record low is -40°F/C), but retired mailman Rus...
>
> <https://youtu.be/ZD_3_gsgsnk>
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> On Monday, 4 June 2018, 9:19:57 pm AEST, Warren Keillor 
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
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>
> Pops
> I am busy insulating the roof, with foam, and digging the floor up to 
> put foam down there too in this 150 year old stone barn.
> The stone barn will be my new workshop, and hopefully heated in the 
> winter. I am putting plastic tubing in a cast concrete floor to make 
> it a large heated mass. If nothing more, at least I hope to keep the 
> floor above freezing this next winter, using a heat pump.
> Last winter, it was brutally cold at -37 C and not possible to do any 
> machining work in there, except in brief spurts, at a drill press.
> The big post and beam wooden barn is coming along well, having 
> repaired the foundation stone walls, and now repairing or replacing 
> the posts and beams as needed.
> This should provide a good large space for any projects, plus a South 
> facing roof with solar panels.
> This whole project, is for research, and testing, at least, in my 
> imagination.
> I have never had the luxury of project space like this, when living in 
> down town Toronto.
> I was incredibly lucky to convince a Harbour Commission man, to allow 
> me a space, to build a sailing schooner, on a weed covered patch, of 
> unused harbour land, back in the 1970's, free, for almost seven years, 
> out in the open, 2.5 m from the water.
> I could have never even imagined such a space as this, to be able to 
> work in.
> Having testing facilities, is a blessing for any of us, having worked 
> on the kitchen table, cramped basement, and having to move setups, 
> because there is greater need for that space, by others.
> Pops, I hope to be able to set up a working model system, so that it 
> can demonstrate the concept, that we all can be free of the energy lords.
> I have confidence in my abilities to communicate the results, to a 
> wider audience, when the time comes.
> I am hardly surprised that resonance is an inportant factor. I sure 
> like analog controls, if they can be made to work, somehow. Turn a 
> knob, and tune it, not that I am so clever at it, but it seems to suit me.
> Cheers Warren
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>     On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 5:50 AM, david jones [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>     Anyway,Hector explain long time ago...tunning is bitch ,everything
>     else
>     is more or less easy - it is RF.
>     No tunning - no transformation
>
>     rgds
>
>     popp
>
>     On 6/4/18, david jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>     > James
>     >
>     > If you need something from Hector than ask him about his machine..
>     >
>     > I will reveal my approach on my condition when i will want.
>     >
>     > If you want follow than be patient!
>     >
>     > ok?
>     >
>     > popps
>     >
>     > On 6/4/18, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     > <[email protected]> wrote:
>     >> Boy this device of popps really got me curious .! Hector what
>     do you
>     >> think
>     >> about a possible configuration of popps stuff ?. Can you spare
>     a minute
>     >> and
>     >> get your noise out of that nudes of Nigeria monthly ?
>     >> On Jun 4, 2018 12:18 AM, "david jones [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
>     >> [email protected]> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> Hi Mick
>     >>>
>     >>> Noo..output is unchanged-pure ac sine wave from the synchronous
>     >>> alternator at his factory speed.In this case 1500 rpm.
>     >>>
>     >>> popps
>     >>> On 6/4/18, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]>
>     >>> wrote:
>     >>> > That's cool Popps, maybe hack the AVR do you get rid of the
>     >>> > freewheeling
>     >>> > diode?
>     >>> >
>     >>> > Do you rectify the output of the generator or let it remain
>     some type
>     >>> > of
>     >>> > AC?
>     >>> >
>     >>> > Since you have to tune it to resonance each time if one
>     desired to
>     >>> > supply the grid for some extra credit does that require the
>     purchase
>     >>> > of
>     >>> > extra equipment such as a grid tie inverter in order the
>     energy is
>     >>> > phase
>     >>> > and frequency synced to the grid?
>     >>> >
>     >>> >
>     >>> >
>     >>> > On 6/3/2018 12:23 AM, david jones [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     wrote:
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >> My machine use standard generator 4 pole 1500 rpm-Bosh with
>     AVR.
>     >>> >> No matter what power you choose!
>     >>> >> No need grid!
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >> On 6/3/18, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>     >>> >> wrote:
>     >>> >> > Popps,
>     >>> >> >
>     >>> >> > Does your machine run without the grid or does it require
>     >>> >> > attachment
>     >>> >> to the
>     >>> >> > grid in order to correct the power factor?
>     >>> >> >
>     >>> >> >
>     >>> >> > Thanks,
>     >>> >> > Mick
>
>     >>> >> >
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >
>     >>> >
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>
>     >
>
>
>
>

[22/104] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Mystery machine

2018-06-05T08:46:32+00:00 · eduardo_codina <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Wazza (affectionate Strine for Warren),Off Subject, but could be inspirational to heat your barn with something like this guy is doing in Nebraska, cold as buggery like your place, specially if you have acreage and digger.Cheers
Nebraska retiree uses earths's heat to grow oranges in snow

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    On Monday, 4 June 2018, 9:19:57 pm AEST, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 

PopsI am busy insulating the roof, with foam, and digging the floor up to put foam down there too in this 150 year old stone barn.The stone barn will be my new workshop, and hopefully heated in the winter. I am putting plastic tubing in a cast concrete floor to make it a large heated mass. If nothing more, at least I hope to keep the floor above freezing this next winter, using a heat pump.Last winter, it was brutally cold at -37 C and not possible to do any machining work in there, except in brief spurts, at a drill press.The big post and beam wooden barn is coming along well, having repaired the foundation stone walls, and now repairing or replacing the posts and beams as needed.This should provide a good large space for any projects, plus a South facing roof with solar panels.This whole project, is for research, and testing, at least, in my imagination.I have never had the luxury of project space like this, when living in down town Toronto.I was incredibly lucky to convince a Harbour Commission man, to allow me a space, to build a sailing schooner, on a weed covered patch, of unused harbour land, back in the 1970's, free, for almost seven years, out in the open, 2.5 m from the water.I could have never even imagined such a space as this, to be able to work in.Having testing facilities, is a blessing for any of us, having worked on the kitchen table, cramped basement, and having to move setups, because there is greater need for that space, by others.Pops, I hope to be able to set up a working model system, so that it can demonstrate the concept, that we all can be free of the energy lords.I have confidence in my abilities to communicate the results, to a wider audience, when the time comes.I am hardly surprised that resonance is an inportant factor. I sure like analog controls, if they can be made to work, somehow. Turn a knob, and tune it, not that I am so clever at it, but it seems to suit me.Cheers Warren
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  On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 5:50 AM, david jones [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Anyway,Hector explain long time ago..tunning is bitch ,everything else
is more or less easy - it is RF.
No tunning - no transformation

rgds

popp

On 6/4/18, david jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> James
>
> If you need something from Hector than ask him about his machine..
>
> I will reveal my approach on my condition when i will want.
>
> If you want follow than be patient!
>
> ok?
>
> popps
>
> On 6/4/18, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Boy this device of popps really got me curious .! Hector what do you
>> think
>> about a possible configuration of popps stuff ?. Can you spare a minute
>> and
>> get your noise out of that nudes of Nigeria monthly ?
>> On Jun 4, 2018 12:18 AM, "david jones [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Mick
>>>
>>> Noo..output is unchanged-pure ac sine wave from the synchronous
>>> alternator at his factory speed.In this case 1500 rpm.
>>>
>>> popps
>>> On 6/4/18, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > That's cool Popps, maybe hack the AVR do you get rid of the
>>> > freewheeling
>>> > diode?
>>> >
>>> > Do you rectify the output of the generator or let it remain some type
>>> > of
>>> > AC?
>>> >
>>> > Since you have to tune it to resonance each time if one desired to
>>> > supply the grid for some extra credit does that require the purchase
>>> > of
>>> > extra equipment such as a grid tie inverter in order the energy is
>>> > phase
>>> > and frequency synced to the grid?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 6/3/2018 12:23 AM, david jones [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> My machine use standard generator 4 pole 1500 rpm-Bosh with AVR.
>>> >> No matter what power you choose!
>>> >> No need grid!
>>> >>
>>> >> On 6/3/18, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > Popps,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Does your machine run without the grid or does it require
>>> >> > attachment
>>> >> to the
>>> >> > grid in order to correct the power factor?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks,
>>> >> > Mick
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Hi Warren ,                           are you putting insulation under the new concrete floor .I have found males a big difference in he winter . 
 

                                                                                   Joe.

[24/104] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Mystery machine

2018-06-05T11:54:44+00:00 · Warren Keillor <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
EduardoThank you for that inspirational link regarding geothermal heating and cooling. Oh, to have soil deeper than the sod, rather than the Canadian Shield poking out here, and there, all over the place, just under the grass.I think it might be best, in my case to drill into the rock, making a hydraulic drilling rig attachment for my Catepillar digger. It is just a hydraulic motor that can turn a pipe chuck which one screws sections of pipe to as the cutter end descends into the rock. You need a mast with a pulley to hoist one section of pipe straight up and allow it to rotate as it sinks into the rock.I should be able to weld an attachment to the front arm for this, and the digger is a good solid base platform with gobs of hydraulic fluid energy available from the three cylinder diesel.This is a winter workshop project.Heat is needed to be able to work in the workshop.It will have to be done in stages.This Winter, it will have to be air to liquid heat pump, to heat the liquid in the floor tubes from the atmosheric heat outside using electricity, at a certain advantge over resistance electrical heaters. This sucks, but is a transitional solution, until geothermal can be put together.Another solution may be solar heated water stored in the concrete silo, which is in excellent condition.At present, I am racing to keep all the barns standing, before the heavy winds, again, attack them. There have been years of bad repairs done before me, by patch and fiddle, solutions.I am trying to do it once, and for all, solved, yet keep the charm, and rustic ambiance.Cheers Warren

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  On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:46 AM, Eduardo Codina [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

 Wazza (affectionate Strine for Warren),Off Subject, but could be inspirational to heat your barn with something like this guy is doing in Nebraska, cold as buggery like your place, specially if you have acreage and digger.Cheers
Nebraska retiree uses earths's heat to grow oranges in snow

| 
| 
| 
|  |  |

 |

 |
| 
|  | 
Nebraska retiree uses earths's heat to grow oranges in snow

Winter temperatures in Alliance, Nebraska can drop to -20°F (the record low is -40°F/C), but retired mailman Rus...
 |

 |

 |




 

    On Monday, 4 June 2018, 9:19:57 pm AEST, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 

PopsI am busy insulating the roof, with foam, and digging the floor up to put foam down there too in this 150 year old stone barn.The stone barn will be my new workshop, and hopefully heated in the winter. I am putting plastic tubing in a cast concrete floor to make it a large heated mass. If nothing more, at least I hope to keep the floor above freezing this next winter, using a heat pump.Last winter, it was brutally cold at -37 C and not possible to do any machining work in there, except in brief spurts, at a drill press.The big post and beam wooden barn is coming along well, having repaired the foundation stone walls, and now repairing or replacing the posts and beams as needed.This should provide a good large space for any projects, plus a South facing roof with solar panels.This whole project, is for research, and testing, at least, in my imagination.I have never had the luxury of project space like this, when living in down town Toronto.I was incredibly lucky to convince a Harbour Commission man, to allow me a space, to build a sailing schooner, on a weed covered patch, of unused harbour land, back in the 1970's, free, for almost seven years, out in the open, 2.5 m from the water.I could have never even imagined such a space as this, to be able to work in.Having testing facilities, is a blessing for any of us, having worked on the kitchen table, cramped basement, and having to move setups, because there is greater need for that space, by others.Pops, I hope to be able to set up a working model system, so that it can demonstrate the concept, that we all can be free of the energy lords.I have confidence in my abilities to communicate the results, to a wider audience, when the time comes.I am hardly surprised that resonance is an inportant factor. I sure like analog controls, if they can be made to work, somehow. Turn a knob, and tune it, not that I am so clever at it, but it seems to suit me.Cheers Warren
ASent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 5:50 AM, david jones [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Anyway,Hector explain long time ago...tunning is bitch ,everything else
is more or less easy - it is RF.
No tunning - no transformation

rgds

popp

On 6/4/18, david jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> James
>
> If you need something from Hector than ask him about his machine..
>
> I will reveal my approach on my condition when i will want.
>
> If you want follow than be patient!
>
> ok?
>
> popps
>
> On 6/4/18, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Boy this device of popps really got me curious .! Hector what do you
>> think
>> about a possible configuration of popps stuff ?. Can you spare a minute
>> and
>> get your noise out of that nudes of Nigeria monthly ?
>> On Jun 4, 2018 12:18 AM, "david jones [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Mick
>>>
>>> Noo..output is unchanged-pure ac sine wave from the synchronous
>>> alternator at his factory speed.In this case 1500 rpm.
>>>
>>> popps
>>> On 6/4/18, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > That's cool Popps, maybe hack the AVR do you get rid of the
>>> > freewheeling
>>> > diode?
>>> >
>>> > Do you rectify the output of the generator or let it remain some type
>>> > of
>>> > AC?
>>> >
>>> > Since you have to tune it to resonance each time if one desired to
>>> > supply the grid for some extra credit does that require the purchase
>>> > of
>>> > extra equipment such as a grid tie inverter in order the energy is
>>> > phase
>>> > and frequency synced to the grid?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 6/3/2018 12:23 AM, david jones [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> My machine use standard generator 4 pole 1500 rpm-Bosh with AVR.
>>> >> No matter what power you choose!
>>> >> No need grid!
>>> >>
>>> >> On 6/3/18, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > Popps,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Does your machine run without the grid or does it require
>>> >> > attachment
>>> >> to the
>>> >> > grid in order to correct the power factor?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks,
>>> >> > Mick
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>
    


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[25/104] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Mystery machine

2018-06-05T12:01:16+00:00 · Warren Keillor <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
JoeI am going with 4" , 100mm of high density styrene, under the concrete.This means breaking up the existing stable floor with jack hammers and sinking down the foam, before laying down the concrete because the the door to the two foot thick stone barn would otherwise be too low to get my machinery in properly. I don't want to wreck the look of the building either.Cheers Warren

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  On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 7:02 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Warren ,
                          are you putting insulation under the new concrete floor .I have found males a big difference in he winter . 
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[26/104] Re: Mystery machine

2018-06-05T17:03:41+00:00 · Mick <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Pops, 

 I was not sure of the terms of your offer, is one required to go to where you are or are you coming to North America later for some instruction?
 

 If so I am South of Warren in USA and am interested.
 

 Does your device self spin at synchonus speed or require a prime mover?
 

 I suggest you put down all the information and send us encrypted unreadable files of how this unit works and is built with the key stashed on a time delayed mail system in case something happens to you so you have bargaining power with the MIB.  Time the key to release each week or month or whatever unless you change it.
 Also have a friend hold some form of data inside prepaid envelope to send somewhere like wikileaks in case of your disapearence.  Also suggest as soon as you are able to begin your operation showing people go for the most possible in the shortest time.
 Stay safe!

[27/104] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Mystery machine

2018-06-05T18:45:30+00:00 · Douglas Konzen <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Hi Popps
 Are you saying your machine now is demonstrating 10KW?
 Not sure what "realization" means...
 What country are you in? 
 Didn't Ismael visit you a few years ago??
 Kone

[28/104] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Mystery machine

2018-06-05T19:30:01+02:00 · zdenkopop <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <CAEMR2rtAh=24_xgBbUhqfot=kBboAVwZ50HupJS5CZE9pMk6gw@mail.gmail.com>
Yes .
It is required to visit me and only one person can arrive.
But now i am in the realisation of 10 kw  with our friend from Holland.
After that member from Germany will comme!
that`s it for now!

On 6/5/18, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
> Pops,
>
>  I was not sure of the terms of your offer, is one required to go to where
> you are or are you coming to North America later for some instruction?
>
>
>  If so I am South of Warren in USA and am interested.
>
>
>  Does your device self spin at synchonus speed or require a prime mover?
>
>
>  I suggest you put down all the information and send us encrypted unreadable
> files of how this unit works and is built with the key stashed on a time
> delayed mail system in case something happens to you so you have bargaining
> power with the MIB.  Time the key to release each week or month or whatever
> unless you change it.
>  Also have a friend hold some form of data inside prepaid envelope to send
> somewhere like wikileaks in case of your disapearence.  Also suggest as soon
> as you are able to begin your operation showing people go for the most
> possible in the shortest time.
>  Stay safe!
>

[29/104] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Mystery machine

2018-06-05T20:54:20+02:00 · zdenkopop <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <CAEMR2rsBXT6pcSvKgD3Y_=0++C-h=VmigCJj1i0xp1+JNR8x-g@mail.gmail.com>
I am in Serbia(Tesla Country)  and  yes,me and A.C.H  working on 10 kw
Ismael never visited me.
pop

On 6/5/18, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Popps
>  Are you saying your machine now is demonstrating 10KW?
>  Not sure what "realization" means...
>  What country are you in?
>  Didn't Ismael visit you a few years ago??
>  Kone
>
>

[30/104] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Mystery machine

2018-06-05T22:20:06-07:00 · Douglas Konzen <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Hi Popps
Keep channeling the Tesla  spirit and energy
Even if you are not religious say  your prayer every morning and night.
Keep angels protecting you close eh!
If you are looping 10kw you are in spirit world already!!
Are you working "with " 10kw as in you have it, and are running loads that big?
Or are you "working on it" to loop and self sustain machine with loads that big while it loops?
Kone

[31/104] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Mystery machine

2018-06-06T03:10:48+00:00 · Warren Keillor <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
PopsSorry, I misread the email.You are still at home, and won't be traveling.Cheers Warren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:54 PM, david jones [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
I am in Serbia(Tesla Country) and yes,me and A.C.H working on 10 kw
Ismael never visited me.
pop

On 6/5/18, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Popps
> Are you saying your machine now is demonstrating 10KW?
> Not sure what "realization" means...
> What country are you in?
> Didn't Ismael visit you a few years ago??
> Kone
>
>

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On the road to another Brian Prater  repetition! 

Beware !!!!! 

(H) 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

 Hi Popps
 Keep channeling the Tesla spirit and energy
 Even if you are not religious say your prayer every morning and night.
 Keep angels protecting you close eh!
 If you are looping 10kw you are in spirit world already!!
 Are you working "with " 10kw as in you have it, and are running loads that big?
 Or are you "working on it" to loop and self sustain machine with loads that big while it loops?
 Kone

[33/104] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Mystery machine

2018-06-06T09:15:51+02:00 · zdenkopop <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <CAEMR2rsHVQK0i+viXxAD5UCOp2jXk6C8HtJ-wSUwp80WnG7VYA@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Kone

I have tested my machine many times on different resistance.

Now ,it is NOT important anymore what resistance will be..it will be
handled ..in proper resonance.
That is why i say that we can make even 1 MW or more of power output.
There is of-course formula but about it -later!
You will be updated for sure!

popps

P.S

And YES.. god bless good people!

On 6/6/18, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Popps
> Keep channeling the Tesla  spirit and energy
> Even if you are not religious say  your prayer every morning and night.
> Keep angels protecting you close eh!
> If you are looping 10kw you are in spirit world already!!
> Are you working "with " 10kw as in you have it, and are running loads that
> big?
> Or are you "working on it" to loop and self sustain machine with loads that
> big while it loops?
> Kone
Thanks GOD! 

 

---In [email protected], <binacca@...> wrote :

 I am in Serbia(Tesla Country) and yes,me and A.C.H working on 10 kw
 Ismael never visited me.
 pop
 
 On 6/5/18, konehead@... mailto:konehead@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
 > Hi Popps
 > Are you saying your machine now is demonstrating 10KW?
 > Not sure what "realization" means...
 > What country are you in?
 > Didn't Ismael visit you a few years ago??
 > Kone
 >
 >

[35/104] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Mystery machine

2018-06-06T14:33:39+02:00 · zdenkopop <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <CAEMR2rtHe79YbrL3z1nVLjkALS_AawtXm2GwsH6Gmtoaxu283A@mail.gmail.com>
Yeah..GOD is KARMA!


popps

On 6/6/18, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks GOD!
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <binacca@...> wrote :
>
>  I am in Serbia(Tesla Country) and yes,me and A.C.H working on 10 kw
>  Ismael never visited me.
>  pop
>
>  On 6/5/18, konehead@... mailto:konehead@... [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>  > Hi Popps
>  > Are you saying your machine now is demonstrating 10KW?
>  > Not sure what "realization" means...
>  > What country are you in?
>  > Didn't Ismael visit you a few years ago??
>  > Kone
>  >
>  >
>
>

[36/104] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Mystery machine

2018-06-06T14:44:21+00:00 · george gray <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Popps,
Are you running a generator/alternator by turning it with an electric motor and then feeding back from the generator/alternator to feed the electric motor?
If not, and you are using an internal combustion engine to turn the generator/alternator, how can you loop the generator to drive the internal combustion engine?
I'm puzzled mate.  But I'm pleased to hear that all is going well for you.  There will be some very bad people watching you, so watch your back mate.
All the best,
George



    On Wednesday, 6 June 2018, 15:35:24 GMT+10, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
Hi Popps
Keep channeling the Tesla spirit and energy
Even if you are not religious say your prayer every morning and night.
Keep angels protecting you close eh!
If you are looping 10kw you are in spirit world already!!
Are you working "with " 10kw as in you have it, and are running loads that big?
Or are you "working on it" to loop and self sustain machine with loads that big while it loops?
Kone

[37/104] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Mystery machine

2018-06-06T15:23:11+00:00 · iron1of1 <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Number of Energy Invention Suppression Incidents – 95
 Number of Dead, Missing, or Injured Energy Inventors, Activists, and Associates – 20
 Number of Energy Inventors and Associates Threatened with Death – 32
 Number of Energy Researchers and Associates Imprisoned or Falsely Charged – 5
 Number of Incidents of Energy Invention Suppression by the United States Government, Patent Office,
 Central Intelligence Agency, Federal Bureau of Investigation, U.S. Marshals, Army, Air Force,
 Navy, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, Defense Intelligence Agency, S.W.A.T. Teams,
 National Security Agency, U.S. Postal Service, Department of Energy, Department of State,
 Securities and Exchange Commission, Food and Drug Administration, Department of Defense,
 Department of Homeland Security, Internal Revenue Service, Rural Electrification Administration,
 White House, Consumer Product Safety Commission, Small Business Administration, and
 Canada’s Royal Canadian Mounted Police – 59
 Number of Inventions Classified Secret by U.S. Patent Office – 5000
 

 Ron

[38/104] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Mystery machine

2018-06-06T15:46:21+00:00 · Warren Keillor <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
HectorTimes are changing.We have to make more machines, and get them into the zeitgeist.It is the only wayCheers Warren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 8:20 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


On the road to another Brian Prater  repetition! 

Beware !!!!! 

(H) 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

Hi Popps
Keep channeling the Tesla spirit and energy
Even if you are not religious say your prayer every morning and night.
Keep angels protecting you close eh!
If you are looping 10kw you are in spirit world already!!
Are you working "with " 10kw as in you have it, and are running loads that big?
Or are you "working on it" to loop and self sustain machine with loads that big while it loops?
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[39/104] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Mystery machine

2018-06-06T15:58:11+00:00 · Warren Keillor <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
RonThe RCMP in Canada don't give a shit, as it is in no way illegal here.I am so not afraid of any police in Canada that act legally.Rogue officers get busted, these days.Different governments, different rules.The USA is a very scary place, from what I have seen. The criminal justice system is very flawed down there. It would suck to be black in some places.In Canada's North, the native population has been poorly served. We have to shape up, up here.Cheers Warren
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  On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:26 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


 

Number of Energy Invention Suppression Incidents – 95

Number of Dead, Missing, or Injured Energy Inventors, Activists, and Associates – 20

Number of Energy Inventors and Associates Threatened with Death – 32

Number of Energy Researchers and Associates Imprisoned or Falsely Charged – 5

Number of Incidents of Energy Invention Suppression by the United States Government, Patent Office,

Central Intelligence Agency, Federal Bureau of Investigation, U.S. Marshals, Army, Air Force,

Navy, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, Defense Intelligence Agency, S.W.A.T. Teams,

National Security Agency, U.S. Postal Service, Department of Energy, Department of State,

Securities and Exchange Commission, Food and Drug Administration, Department of Defense,

Department of Homeland Security, Internal Revenue Service, Rural Electrification Administration,

White House, Consumer Product Safety Commission, Small Business Administration, and

Canada’s Royal Canadian Mounted Police – 59

Number of Inventions Classified Secret by U.S. Patent Office – 5000




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Warren, 

 Have you checked your national security laws in order to make that determination?
 

 It's not legal in the UK, and whether legal or not one way they wharehouse a person is by claiming one was stealing from the utility.  Seems this happened to John Searl before he lost his mental faculties or perhpas he was crazy the whole time.  I don't beleive this though as Sieke had respect for him and was a trained physicist of renown.
 

 Canada is no refuge from abuses of process as I have found plenty up there when they want your land.