Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Ivor Catt

Dave,

IS this with the coax terminated into a lower resistance than the wire
impedance or shorted?


On 3/20/2018 4:55 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> I'm finding some OU simple formulas in Catt's book.
> This man had the fastest logic gates to work with and deals only in
> step voltages.
> States that a charged 1 meter long coax when switched to load gives a
> pulse twice length of the line velocity.
> When switch to a open circiut the refection returns with 4 times the
> voltage.
> Electromagnetism 1 by Ivor Catt - free book on the web
> <http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/em.htm>
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>     Electromagnetism 1 by Ivor Catt - free book on the web
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> <http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/em.htm>
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I'm finding some OU simple formulas in Catt's book.This man had the fastest logic gates to work with and deals only in step voltages.States that a charged 1 meter long coax when switched to load gives a pulse twice length of the line velocity.When switch to a open circiut the refection returns with 4 times the voltage.Electromagnetism 1 by Ivor Catt - free book on the web

  
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Hi Dave,

A better definition of OU is OU of the power factor where OU is when the output power exceeds the input power. This makes the product of the tension and current of the output exceed the product of the tension and current of the input before having OU. Else every voltage step up transformer is OU and step down transformers that are actually current step up transformers are then OU current transformers.

To make a self-runner the output power has to exceed the input power no matter the input to output voltage ratio. The output voltage can actually be small while the input voltage is high. This is the true meaning of an OU power factor.

In an open ended transmission line the voltage is doubled but the current is zero giving no power dissipation. In a shorted end transmission line the current is doubled and the voltage is zero which also gives no power dissipation. The voltage has to be doubled at the load impedance to give double power dissipation.

Regards
Ole

Dave,

I will have to have a look at this, thanks for bringing it to the groups
attention.

Interesting Ole knew about the issues raised by Ivor but not surprising.

Do you build lasers?


On 3/20/2018 1:39 PM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Mick, not coax, a pcb ground plane & a surface trace and bybass
> capacitors is a near 0 resistance transmission line ends.
> Crosstalk is observed in parallel traces even when far away.
> He makes no claims to current or electrons inside copper just a energy
> external field and skin effect of V + H at C velocity and 2 X square
> root of 2
> Engineer-able with real simple calculations.
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> On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:05 AM, "Mick [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Dave,
> IS this with the coax terminated into a lower resistance than the wire
> impedance or shorted?
>
> On 3/20/2018 4:55 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>> I'm finding some OU simple formulas in Catt's book.
>> This man had the fastest logic gates to work with and deals only in
>> step voltages.
>> States that a charged 1 meter long coax when switched to load gives a
>> pulse twice length of the line velocity.
>> When switch to a open circiut the refection returns with 4 times the
>> voltage.
>> Electromagnetism 1 by Ivor Catt - free book on the web
>> <http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/em.htm>
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>>     Electromagnetism 1 by Ivor Catt - free book on the web
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>> Web version of the 1994 book: Electromagnetism 1, by Ivor Catt
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>> <http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/em.htm>
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Mick, not coax, a pcb ground plane & a surface trace and bybass capacitors is a near 0 resistance transmission line ends.
Crosstalk is observed in parallel traces even when far away.He makes no claims to current or electrons inside copper just a energy external field and skin effect of V + H at C velocity and 2 X square root of 2
Engineer-able with real simple calculations.

 

    On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:05 AM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

      Dave, IS this with the coax terminated into a lower resistance than the wire impedance or shorted?
  
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     I'm finding some OU simple formulas in Catt's book. This man had the fastest logic gates to work with and deals only in step voltages. States that a charged 1 meter long coax when switched to load gives a pulse twice length of the line velocity. When switch to a open circiut the refection returns with 4 times the voltage. Electromagnetism 1 by Ivor Catt - free book on the web
  
    
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Sounds like; "Commerce controverts Martin? "
 

    On Tuesday, March 20, 2018, 3:41:54 PM PDT, Lutz Liebers [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
 
 Is anyone able to understand what Donald S. is telling right after minute 11:07 ?
 He is talking about a Nikola Tesla book but due to the guys' bad articulation (stroke)
 I can't understand it: "Thomas "controvert ?" Martin or Warden"  ?
 Many thanks in advance.
  
 http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2820531/don_smith_free_energy/
 
 
 
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Try putting it Thu Google translater service it helps with Hector . they
have a Hector selection button 😂
On Mar 20, 2018 6:10 PM, "Darrell Evans [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

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> Sounds like; "Commerce controverts Martin? "
>
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> On Tuesday, March 20, 2018, 3:41:54 PM PDT, Lutz Liebers
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Is anyone able to understand what Donald S. is telling right after minute
> 11:07 ?
> He is talking about a Nikola Tesla book but due to the guys' bad
> articulation (stroke)
> I can't understand it: "Thomas "controvert ?" Martin or Warden"  ?
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2820531/don_smith_free_energy/
>
>
> 
>

I hope you get run over and eloped by an stampede of horny hamsters ! 






 

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 Sounds like; "Commerce controverts Martin? "

 

 

 On Tuesday, March 20, 2018, 3:41:54 PM PDT, Lutz Liebers lutzliebers@... mailto:lutzliebers@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
 

 

   
 Is anyone able to understand what Donald S. is telling right after minute 11:07 ?
 He is talking about a Nikola Tesla book but due to the guys' bad articulation (stroke)
 I can't understand it: "Thomas "controvert ?" Martin or Warden"  ?
 Many thanks in advance.
  
 http://www.metacafe.com/watch/ 2820531/don_smith_free_energy/ http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2820531/don_smith_free_energy/

LutzYou have found quite a gem in this Don Smith video.Too bad he got old and frail just as his work was starting to catch on, even in Russia.He was met with a rather flat response in the United States, because his theory was so wonky, compared with standard practice.The technical education in Russia was more free from our educational system's "co-partnering with industry", at least to
mess with controversial concepts, a little bit, that might turn big projects into useless shit. We didn't dare do that here.Kapanadze picked up on his pirate copy of Don Smith, translated into Russian, with a gusto, having more than a clue what Don was going on about.He was soon able to get a Don's device made, using hardware quality house wiring to make the coils. They appear to work, when we see the videos. Lots of people in the East started having success doing these coil having replicated them.Boing! Big freeze on youtubers from Russia. Whoops! Somebody was getting their toes stepped on with this free energy shit.Then in a an obscure portion of southern former Soviet territory, Zilano, a woman electrical engineer, from a country with free post secondary education, started building, and communicating about it, Don Smith devices, and also building on Kapanadze's work. Life on the Internet got really horrid with asshole trolls saying nasty things.Zilano had been doing a forum teaching how to make these things she was doing. It got so ugly with mean assholes, after she had made a brief case sized 160 kw unit, to power her rural property,  and telling how, that she basically said "fuckit" and has gotten into raising horses.Those coils are touching on a means to get where we want to go, but have been afraid to ask.We have never seen one of our own peers successfully build one of these devices, so they may not tickle our fancy.The induction stove top, and Tesla spiral coils worked enough for me running a 3hp DC motor like a Dremell tool that, Whoah! What do we have here? Is a project that needs further work.My Salton stove top is child proof, and doesn't like me running motors, instead of frying eggs, in a cast iron pan on top, so shuts down after 30 seconds, which when you are winning, is a bit of a bummer.I just had to send to China for a induction furnace circuit board that may explode, and burn, rather than be child proof, allowing me to play with fire.I have moved and am gathering my toys, from hundreds of card board cartons, spread through numerous sheds, and barns, which, some of which, have leaky roofs, needing plastic sheeting covers over the stacks of boxes until I can open everything.Fortunately it has been minus 27C and not prone to dripping, giving me shuffling time this winter.Unfortunately, experiments have been put on hold.I have dug out enough stuff to do a flywheel experiment, I hope, as it is not too fussy about temperature, and humidity. My Variacs and giant diodes have been elusive, but have been able to find some of them.To say the least, it was not an organized move. I arrived a few days before Christmas and to the biggest snowstorm in decades, that has just never quit. Our house in Toronto sold in less than a day, leaving us a few weeks to have it empty. My studio, had to be emptied also, a complete machine shop, wood shop, plastics shop, electronics, plus 40 years of motion picture special effect equipment, and materials, old artifacts, film, papers, books, and all, jumbled into professional moving trucks and sent four hours away, into the teeth of a winter storm.We survived. I learned to snow shoe.The coyotes come close, but haven't eaten the dogs yet.Spring might come. The days are longer.Cheers Warren
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  On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 6:41 PM, Lutz Liebers [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 
 Is anyone able to understand what Donald S. is telling right after minute 11:07 ?
 He is talking about a Nikola Tesla book but due to the guys' bad articulation (stroke)
 I can't understand it: "Thomas "controvert ?" Martin or Warden"  ?
 Many thanks in advance.
  
 http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2820531/don_smith_free_energy/
 
 
 
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Yes, Ivor used a off the shelf Tectronic pulse generator that was only a coax charged to 10v and open on one end.The 120pS pulse length was 2X the coax length at near light velocity.On the PCB signal and ground plane he measured the propagation of the pulse and found the energy field traveled along the both paths at the same rate.This blew modern physics TEM theory....

I'v built diode pumped crystal green, YAG and some flash lamp YAG, YAG,holmium 2.1nm beam lasersThe new 45xnm 4.5w diode are cheap but not TEM mode.
 

    On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 8:53 PM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

      Dave, I will have to have a look at this, thanks for bringing it to the groups attention.
  Interesting Ole knew about the issues raised by Ivor but not surprising.
  Do you build lasers?
  
 On 3/20/2018 1:39 PM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
     Mick, not coax, a pcb ground plane & a surface trace and bybass capacitors is a near 0 resistance transmission line ends.
  Crosstalk is observed in parallel traces even when far away. He makes no claims to current or electrons inside copper just a energy external field and skin effect of V + H at C velocity and 2 X square root of 2
  Engineer-able with real simple calculations.
  
   
 
      On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:05 AM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
  
 
           Dave, IS this with the coax terminated into a lower resistance than the wire impedance or shorted?
  
  On 3/20/2018 4:55 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
     I'm finding some OU simple formulas in Catt's book. This man had the fastest logic gates to work with and deals  only in step voltages. States that a charged 1 meter long coax when switched to load  gives a pulse twice length of the line velocity. When switch to a open circiut the refection returns with 4 times  the voltage. Electromagnetism 1 by Ivor Catt - free book on the web
  
    
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Old goats need tantra , so the knowledge is not lost ! 

Don might be alive today if he just had read and practiced white tantra ..

dark side is unforgiving ...

(H)

Dave, 
 Do you mean TEM00 or that there is no transverse mode at all?
 

 I am pretty sure the diodes have a crossection mode as they are multimode devices or the way I look at it have IM distortion.  But then 45 nano is pretty fucking tight.

Hello Lutz Liebers,
The gentleman is Thomas Commerford Martin and you can begin from here:

https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/books/authors/thomas-commerford-martin

Hope this helps and good luck in your research.

Smokey

On 21/03/2018 6:27 AM, Lutz Liebers [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>
> Is anyone able to understand what Donald S. is telling right after 
> minute 11:07 ?
> He is talking about a Nikola Tesla book but due to the guys' bad 
> articulation (stroke)
> I can't understand it: "Thomas "controvert ?" Martin or Warden"  ?
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2820531/don_smith_free_energy/
>
>
>

Hello Lutz Liebers:

https://archive.org/details/InventionsResearchesAndWritingsOfNikolaTesla

Smokey

On 21/03/2018 6:36 PM, David G Dawson [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Hello Lutz Liebers,
> The gentleman is Thomas Commerford Martin and you can begin from here:
>
> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/books/authors/thomas-commerford-martin
>
> Hope this helps and good luck in your research.
>
> Smokey
>
> On 21/03/2018 6:27 AM, Lutz Liebers [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>> Is anyone able to understand what Donald S. is telling right after 
>> minute 11:07 ?
>> He is talking about a Nikola Tesla book but due to the guys' bad 
>> articulation (stroke)
>> I can't understand it: "Thomas "controvert ?" Martin or Warden"  ?
>> Many thanks in advance.
>>
>> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2820531/don_smith_free_energy/
>>
>>
>
>