Re: [EVGRAY] Strobe

Warren,

But then what is one supposed to do with it, do yoou have a wiring
diagram for the OU mods?


On 3/18/2018 6:27 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
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>
> This is the Hector recomended strobe
> Cheers Warren
>
>
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This is the Hector recomended strobeCheers Warren


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Warren,

Modest talents try convincing someone else of that.

Maybe someone else here has the solution as it sounds like a great idea
to prove up cores.

Have fun with the Chinese unit when you find it, putting your house in
order comes first.
Like I mentioned before the units can be fragile, I just fixed my broken
one with new FET's, desoldering that damn new lead free solder
practically takes a blowtorch. The pancake coils require a spacer
between the windings else the capacitance goes too high and drops the
frequency.  They are made to use a small air core coil to run at a
higher frequency.  Even the stove coils seem to run a bit slow on these
units as I prefer them over 25 or 30 kHz as a more efficient
transmitter.  They have a lot of caps in parallel, something around 6,
could try pulling out one on each side.  Probably a good idea to replace
these caps with some good high Q units anyways.  When you use the scope
probe set it on x10.  One of the biggest problems I have with
engineering this unit is the ground loop from my scopeso sometimes keep
the ground unhooked for frequency readings.

There is a problem with the ZVS circuit in that sometimes it is stubborn
to oscillate so may require switching the power supply on and off and
endangering the fuse or output devices on the supply.  Before I fried
the FET's I began working on here taking copious notes and relaying to
the group but everyone dropped interest.

I think you came upon an epiphany the other day when you mentioned the
use of MPPT charge controllers as the interface between an RV or
whatever for impedance matching to batteries.



On 3/19/2018 3:25 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Mick
>
> My heart goes out you regarding how to wire it up to something useful.
> Hector didn't succeed in communicating that with us, as far as I know.
> I bought two of these units eager to learn more, but found myself
> aground off the channel. Yahoo? I have no idea.
> I suspect that they might work.
> They certainly flash a nice strobe on 12 volts dc.
> It is the stretch, to getting a coil banging, for someone of modest
> talents like mmyself. I was hoping to be able to fire up a Tesla
> pancake coil or something, but don' t seem to know how to connect it.
> I made some rather nice little Tesla pancakes and they work fine on
> the induction stovetop, but my induction stovetop shuts off just as I
> am getting delighted, and wound up with the results. Being child
> proof, and not allowing anything funnier than a cast iron frying pan,
> the stove top has the guts, but not the software, to perform magic.
> I ordered an induction furnace from China, a no frills unit that runs
> on 12 volts dc. 
> I got into the lightning moving frenzy, and am still digging my stuff
> out of gazzilion cardboard moving cartons after three months.
> Cheers Warren
>
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>     On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 11:06 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>      
>
>     Warren,
>
>     But then what is one supposed to do with it, do yoou have a wiring
>     diagram for the OU mods?
>
>
>     On 3/18/2018 6:27 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>      
>>
>>     This is the Hector recomended strobe
>>     Cheers Warren
>>
>>
>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>     <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android>
>
>

MickMy heart goes out you regarding how to wire it up to something useful.Hector didn't succeed in communicating that with us, as far as I know.I bought two of these units eager to learn more, but found myself aground off the channel. Yahoo? I have no idea.I suspect that they might work.They certainly flash a nice strobe on 12 volts dc.It is the stretch, to getting a coil banging, for someone of modest talents like mmyself. I was hoping to be able to fire up a Tesla pancake coil or something, but don' t seem to know how to connect it.I made some rather nice little Tesla pancakes and they work fine on the induction stovetop, but my induction stovetop shuts off just as I am getting delighted, and wound up with the results. Being child proof, and not allowing anything funnier than a cast iron frying pan, the stove top has the guts, but not the software, to perform magic.I ordered an induction furnace from China, a no frills unit that runs on 12 volts dc. I got into the lightning moving frenzy, and am still digging my stuff out of gazzilion cardboard moving cartons after three months.Cheers Warren

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  On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 11:06 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Warren,
 
But then what is one supposed to do with it, do yoou have a wiring diagram for the OU mods?
 
 
 On 3/18/2018 6:27 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
  This is the Hector recomended strobe Cheers Warren
 
 
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MickThe flywheel is working great, as a flywheel, gyroscope, or whatever.I notice a bit of vibration around 1000 rpm, but it levels out as one takes it up.The free run time is pretty good at more than ten minutes.I am not sure how much energy is required to maintain the speed, but it seems a lot less than increasing the speed as you edge up the speed.I think I am going with the dc drive motor just to be able to study this a little better without blowing the breakers.Today I am making the mother of all bridge rectifiers out of diodes with 3/4 NF screw threads on the mount ends and flex wires much bigger than my 250 Lincoln arc welder. I found them in my stuff, much to my delight, yesterday.I will use this rectifier as a stand alone unit for every purpose where there needs to be high amperage, without worry. The Variac is way oversized too, being a big old unit used for theatre Kleig lights up in the grid, able to handle 80 amps or more.This is not the most efficient equipment but will tolerate klutzy activities of experimentation, and I found them first, because they are big, and very heavy, in all my unmarked boxes.The fact that the flywheel runs so well, considering how beastly cold everything is in my unheated stone barn, gives me optimism.Cheers Warren
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  On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 11:06 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Warren,
 
But then what is one supposed to do with it, do yoou have a wiring diagram for the OU mods?
 
 
 On 3/18/2018 6:27 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
  This is the Hector recomended strobe Cheers Warren
 
 
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Warren, as so often, same with Norman's... a little box with a folded corner and a green blotch in the lower???
 

 Ron

I dont think is my problem of communication i think is the lack of reading and experimentation and ease of distraction to the next level of bullshit you all are subjected (2)   , i had another report of looping off line on things and methods that are already PUBLIC ! yes, 14 watts in 75 out  demonstrating  the concept of rotary energy acquisition from the ambient is correct and does not break any  law of thermodynamics , hope they don't get greedy and do things right else they will be eaten by the system and spit out as cow dung ...

Norman has concurred also in the same NOTE :

You must lean to read and do the experiments else you are doomed to failure , jumping all around the internet from bullshit to bullshit non stop !  

-----------------------------------

 I don't blame Norman for sometimes getting a bit of sarcastic be glad he has not sent some of you to dive head on inside a cow vagina like i had done ...

or just crash in into the elephants pee dick hole holding the flat earth on top of the turtle ! 

as everyone knows the true shape of the earth !  



   

and i bet half of you just forgot the first lines of post after  the earth dick picture ! 

redo from start don't look at the dick!  i think we had  given all the answers and  you people need to unite more and share methods instead of renaming the wheel in a different million names & get no results .. 

just try to do a simple coil banger and do an OU coil, core  piezo or magnet VTA structure study MRA papers study Normans neutral Spike theory  
Newman Motor or any bitchy school girl motor found anywhere ( except the African ones that run on girs pee !  

the coil banger is the simplest test rig to test OU coils  just need to work the parameters right ...

As RV is a ROTARY ZPE lab instrument to test any OU generator ...that VIOLATES lenz laws ..

remember my postulate ( before any other idiot got it right )  is OU is TRANSFORMATION  from ambient energy into a working system 

E in (E + e↓ ) = OU 

thanks ! & amen !  




(H)

OK you got an original capacitor  180mF 380 VDC  or similar .

why not try  saY a 100mF 370V into smacking a low impedance coil in series with a puck  piezo  ?  use lexan shield  for the blast zone !  and a huge fast switching HI voltage hi amps reverse recovery diode ? 
or go smaller in caps values an test coils with one end grounded and the other end into at least one foot sphere .... 

reread my big balls postings .... 10 feet diameter 

   

some circuits to follow ....... 

and the 240FT earth ground node pole ....

Tesla and Hertz were just using different NODES on the same energy  

in that they remained as fighting monkeys , in prejudice to future generations 

so try to understand the things being given .. its your future , or i may say your future depends on it  .....

(H)

Ok a series of experiment to do .....  

flash unit with a coil  , remove reverse diode  flash , put reverse diode flash 


predicted result  diode in will flash more faster more intense .

diode out will flash slower a bit less intense ....... 

that means you have recovered  collapse energy spike and return it to the 
capacitor .....

on Normans commentary i highlighted  he states clearly  capacitor must match specific coil requirements to deliver the right joule volt ampere to excite whatever OU coil you might want to use  and recover its potential within the return spike  as i have mention to go on an easy trail  a circuit to excite and a circuit to harvest following the proper logarithmic path  of excitation and gain curve ... yes i know  its dealing with advanced solid state stuff but i have no choice if you have to understand rotary dynamics of RV 
and other similar devices that PLAY on the same rules! 

in other words this is totally applicable to pulsemotors and making any brushed generator work as an EV Gray motor without having to suffer the 
Jinx curse EV gray devices ended with . 

pause ....

awaiting  feedback ..

(H)

Hector,

As for the experiment, tried with a 4007 then a fast HD diode and three
different coils in series with the xenon.  One pancake from a inductive
cooker, one I wound on a small piece of mumetal from an audio
transformer isolation shield and one a switching power supply transformer.

Did not notice a difference in or out except with one series coil
connected there was a slight change in tone from the strobe at a certain
speed with the diode connected vs not.

Got headache from strobe and stopped.


On 3/19/2018 1:29 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Ok a series of experiment to do ..... 
>
> flash unit with a coil  , remove reverse diode  flash , put reverse
> diode flash
>
>
> predicted result  diode in will flash more faster more intense .
>
> diode out will flash slower a bit less intense .......
>
> that means you have recovered  collapse energy spike and return it to the
> capacitor .....
>
> on Normans commentary i highlighted  he states clearly  capacitor must
> match specific coil requirements to deliver the right joule volt
> ampere to excite whatever OU coil you might want to use  and recover
> its potential within the return spike  as i have mention to go on an
> easy trail  a circuit to excite and a circuit to harvest following the
> proper logarithmic path  of excitation and gain curve ... yes i know 
> its dealing with advanced solid state stuff but i have no choice if
> you have to understand rotary dynamics of RV
> and other similar devices that PLAY on the same rules!
>
> in other words this is totally applicable to pulsemotors and making
> any brushed generator work as an EV Gray motor without having to
> suffer the
> Jinx curse EV gray devices ended with .
>
> pause ....
>
> awaiting  feedback ..
>
> (H)
>
>
>  
>
>

Sven,

These are some strange results.

I assume you have checked the lighting wiring for ground faults?


On 3/20/2018 11:48 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hello Hector,
> i have tested the coil banger with xenon flash lamp again today. I
> installed a stronger flash lamp and used a self-wound core that served
> as an output inductor from a frequency converter as output choke.
> Diverse diodes tested and switched from 1N4007 to high power and
> parallel. Capacitor connected from 20 to 60μF. The diodes I noticed
> nothing but I found it very interesting when I turned off the
> fluorescent lamps in my work room to test how bright the xenon flashes
> light it did not work anymore.
> It strangely only flashes with the light on. Then I took a 400 watt
> spotlight and held it in the direction and away again and the
> switching speed changed. In addition, it does not blink symmetrically
> from the time there are pulse pauses and then 3 quick flashes in a row.
>
> Whether my workroom in the basement is almost energy-free when
> lighting is on. I think I live in the Faraday cage. laughing.
>
> 1 or 2 times it flashed without voltage, but only with switched on
> fluorescent lamps.
>
> Very remarkable, whether the xenon tube is excited by the lighting or
> if additional energy is introduced into the system!?!
>
> regards
>
> Sven
>
>

Norm,

For perfect cancellation in an LC tank as they say in Cambodia- same
same- Although as frequency moves the parts value may change from the IW
capacitance and ESR on the caps from skin effect lead inductance and
such, but for the two field vectors to cancel as far as I am aware it's
same same

As far as lackluster strobe results I figured as much and I am sure the
cap in the strobe is a cheap piece of junk.  Also made no attempt to
match inductor.

I know Dr Tesla was very adamant about super pure mica and silver.  I
mentioned this before and you agreed then Ole interjected with the
lowest ESR smaller sized highest Q ceramic being COG. 

What are your favorites for the uF range and the pF? 

I think in your piezo experiment the driver is made from PZT or lead
zirconate titinate which is also used for certain laser experiments in
crystal form so I assume is super high Q.



On 3/20/2018 12:14 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> As Hector has said many times, you have to have a  :perfect match of
> condenser and coil impedance to get the Xl/XC cancellation @ peak
> ultra high "Q' of the resonance curve.  Fortunately! for magnetos you
> are working at "very low audio" frequencies since your are dealing
> with only up to 12,000 RPM which translates to 200 cps (cycles per
> second).  No 'fancy high freq to deal with!
>
>
> On 3/20/2018 12:22 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Hector,
>>
>> As for the experiment, tried with a 4007 then a fast HD diode and
>> three different coils in series with the xenon.  One pancake from a
>> inductive cooker, one I wound on a small piece of mumetal from an
>> audio transformer isolation shield and one a switching power supply
>> transformer.
>>
>> Did not notice a difference in or out except with one series coil
>> connected there was a slight change in tone from the strobe at a
>> certain speed with the diode connected vs not.
>>
>> Got headache from strobe and stopped.
>>
>>
>> On 3/19/2018 1:29 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Ok a series of experiment to do ..... 
>>>
>>> flash unit with a coil  , remove reverse diode  flash , put reverse
>>> diode flash
>>>
>>>
>>> predicted result  diode in will flash more faster more intense .
>>>
>>> diode out will flash slower a bit less intense .......
>>>
>>> that means you have recovered  collapse energy spike and return it
>>> to the
>>> capacitor .....
>>>
>>> on Normans commentary i highlighted  he states clearly  capacitor
>>> must match specific coil requirements to deliver the right joule
>>> volt ampere to excite whatever OU coil you might want to use  and
>>> recover its potential within the return spike  as i have mention to
>>> go on an easy trail  a circuit to excite and a circuit to harvest
>>> following the proper logarithmic path  of excitation and gain curve
>>> ... yes i know  its dealing with advanced solid state stuff but i
>>> have no choice if you have to understand rotary dynamics of RV
>>> and other similar devices that PLAY on the same rules!
>>>
>>> in other words this is totally applicable to pulsemotors and making
>>> any brushed generator work as an EV Gray motor without having to
>>> suffer the
>>> Jinx curse EV gray devices ended with .
>>>
>>> pause ....
>>>
>>> awaiting  feedback ..
>>>
>>> (H)
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>
>
>

As Hector has said many times, you have to have a  :perfect match of 
condenser and coil impedance to get the Xl/XC cancellation @ peak ultra 
high "Q' of the resonance curve.  Fortunately! for magnetos you are 
working at "very low audio" frequencies since your are dealing with only 
up to 12,000 RPM which translates to 200 cps (cycles per second).  No 
'fancy high freq to deal with!


On 3/20/2018 12:22 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hector,
>
> As for the experiment, tried with a 4007 then a fast HD diode and 
> three different coils in series with the xenon. One pancake from a 
> inductive cooker, one I wound on a small piece of mumetal from an 
> audio transformer isolation shield and one a switching power supply 
> transformer.
>
> Did not notice a difference in or out except with one series coil 
> connected there was a slight change in tone from the strobe at a 
> certain speed with the diode connected vs not.
>
> Got headache from strobe and stopped.
>
>
> On 3/19/2018 1:29 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Ok a series of experiment to do .....
>>
>> flash unit with a coil  , remove reverse diode  flash , put reverse 
>> diode flash
>>
>>
>> predicted result  diode in will flash more faster more intense .
>>
>> diode out will flash slower a bit less intense .......
>>
>> that means you have recovered  collapse energy spike and return it to 
>> the
>> capacitor .....
>>
>> on Normans commentary i highlighted  he states clearly  capacitor 
>> must match specific coil requirements to deliver the right joule volt 
>> ampere to excite whatever OU coil you might want to use  and recover 
>> its potential within the return spike  as i have mention to go on an 
>> easy trail  a circuit to excite and a circuit to harvest following 
>> the proper logarithmic path  of excitation and gain curve ... yes i 
>> know  its dealing with advanced solid state stuff but i have no 
>> choice if you have to understand rotary dynamics of RV
>> and other similar devices that PLAY on the same rules!
>>
>> in other words this is totally applicable to pulsemotors and making 
>> any brushed generator work as an EV Gray motor without having to 
>> suffer the
>> Jinx curse EV gray devices ended with .
>>
>> pause ....
>>
>> awaiting  feedback ..
>>
>> (H)
>>
>>
>
>

Hello Hector, I have tested the coil banger with xenon flash lamp again today. I installed a stronger flash lamp and used a self-wound core that served as an output inductor from a frequency converter as output choke. Diverse diodes tested and switched from 1N4007 to high power and parallel. Capacitor connected from 20 to 60μF. The diodes I noticed nothing but I found it very interesting when I turned off the fluorescent lamps in my work room to test how bright the xenon flashes light it did not work anymore.
It strangely only flashes with the light on. Then I took a 400 watt spotlight and held it in the direction and away again and the switching speed changed.

Whether my workroom in the basement is almost energy-free when lighting is on. I think I live in the Faraday cage. laughing.

1 or 2 times it flashed without voltage, but only with switched on fluorescent lamps.

Very remarkable, whether the xenon tube is excited by the lighting or if additional energy is introduced into the system!?!

regards

Sven

Hello Hector,
i have tested the coil banger with xenon flash lamp again today. I installed a stronger flash lamp and used a self-wound core that served as an output inductor from a frequency converter as output choke. Diverse diodes tested and switched from 1N4007 to high power and parallel. Capacitor connected from 20 to 60μF. The diodes I noticed nothing but I found it very interesting when I turned off the fluorescent lamps in my work room to test how bright the xenon flashes light it did not work anymore.
It strangely only flashes with the light on. Then I took a 400 watt spotlight and held it in the direction and away again and the switching speed changed. In addition, it does not blink symmetrically from the time there are pulse pauses and then 3 quick flashes in a row.

Whether my workroom in the basement is almost energy-free when lighting is on. I think I live in the Faraday cage. laughing.

1 or 2 times it flashed without voltage, but only with switched on fluorescent lamps.

Very remarkable, whether the xenon tube is excited by the lighting or if additional energy is introduced into the system!?!

regards

Sven

Hello Hector, I have tested the coil banger with xenon flash lamp again today. I installed a stronger flash lamp and used a self-wound core that served as an output inductor from a frequency converter as output choke. Diverse diodes tested and switched from 1N4007 to high power and parallel. Capacitor connected from 20 to 60μF. The diodes I noticed nothing but I found it very interesting when I turned off the fluorescent lamps in my work room to test how bright the xenon flashes light it did not work anymore.
It strangely only flashes with the light on. Then I took a 400 watt spotlight and held it in the direction and away again and the switching speed changed. In addition, it does not blink symmetrically from the time there are pulse pauses and then 3 quick flashes in a row.

Whether my workroom in the basement is almost energy-free when lighting is on. I think I live in the Faraday cage. laughing.

1 or 2 times it flashed without voltage, but only with switched on fluorescent lamps.

Very remarkable, whether the xenon tube is excited by the lighting or if additional energy is introduced into the system!?!

regards

Sven

This Xenon tube in my circuit.

Greeting

Sven

Why do I have that when I work free potential. I think that does not matter I always use a isolation transformer for my experiments.

regards

Sven

again ! E + e↓ = OU  ok you tuned probably to a photon aether tensor try tuning to a gravitic one ! 

or just see if your FLs are transmitting microwaves or RF waves being rectified by your lamp diode ..?

there are always some anomaly's  within this energy domain  than is one of them , but try first the more reasonable logical explanation ones ! 


(H)

Yep it neuralizes the brain  MIB style, place a tin can to cover the strobe  ,,, try placing an opposing polarity  magnet (big speaker  magnet) to coil at different distances , and see the bounceback  flyback effect increase or decrease ....  you may use a piezo  in series to coil and there you got an MRA banger !  use lexan box shield for the piezo so if it blows up there is no collateral damage ,,,,

you will need to calculate the specific to your circuit 

as a note for many  basic testing i used a 100mF 370 VAC  OIL capacitor 
the difference with the diode in & out is quite notable ,,,


(H) 


---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Hector,
 As for the experiment, tried with a 4007 then a fast HD diode and three different coils in series with the xenon.  One pancake from a inductive cooker, one I wound on a small piece of mumetal from an audio transformer isolation shield and one a switching power supply transformer.
 
 Did not notice a difference in or out except with one series coil connected there was a slight change in tone from the strobe at a certain speed with the diode connected vs not.
 Got headache from strobe and stopped.
 
 
 On 3/19/2018 1:29 PM, arkresearch@... mailto:arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Ok a series of experiment to do .....  
 
 flash unit with a coil  , remove reverse diode  flash , put reverse diode flash 
 
 
 predicted result  diode in will flash more faster more intense .
 
 diode out will flash slower a bit less intense ....... 
 
 that means you have recovered  collapse energy spike and return it to the 
 capacitor .....
 
 on Normans commentary i highlighted  he states clearly  capacitor must match specific coil requirements to deliver the right joule volt ampere to excite whatever OU coil you might want to use  and recover its potential within the return spike  as i have mention to go on an easy trail  a circuit to excite and a circuit to harvest following the proper logarithmic path  of excitation and gain curve ... yes i know  its dealing with advanced solid state stuff but i have no choice if you have to understand rotary dynamics of RV 
 and other similar devices that PLAY on the same rules! 
 
 in other words this is totally applicable to pulsemotors and making any brushed generator work as an EV Gray motor without having to suffer the 
 Jinx curse EV gray devices ended with . 
 
 pause ....
 
 awaiting  feedback ..
 
 (H)