Re: [EVGRAY] Generator

9 messages · 2018-03-09T05:01:11+00:00 → 2018-03-10T00:56:34+00:00

[1/9] Re: [EVGRAY] Generator

2018-03-09T05:01:11+00:00 · Mark <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Hello Warren, 

Well, Hector has said the Generator has to have a frequency ( AC )increase for the slip ( 7% )which seems logical, as there will be load pulling the motor down, but the flywheel with a correct pulley ratio should fight the load with the energy stored in the rotation.  It's supposed to be what is called "The Wheel-work of Nature". A sort-of Capacitance in a "Physical form.?
Ya may try the "Magical" x 1.618 ratio or divide as a start....that's my plan as ya can see in the attached "Pic" / plan.  Parts on order... April before assembly and tests.
Will report my results...Failure or Success  : ]




   

   From: "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 9:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Generator
  
    MarkIt is a nice video, but I still have a hard time following the ratios, and logic.He uses dc while most use acIt could be 3rd world availability and is not important because it is a mechanical phenomenon, and electricity is only a convenient method of energy transfer..Cheers Warrren

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  On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:07 PM, Mark [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       Hello Warren,
Perhaps this guy can give ya some ideas as he has been there, done that...
énergie gratuite a 100% fr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6LYEjlh4Nk
WE all know who he is..


      From: "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 2:42 PM
 Subject: [EVGRAY] Generator
  
    
Hi everyoneThis is a little 2.6 kw 120 240 volt generator that I have just removed the hydraulic drive from, as used in the sail boat, years back.I am doing a silly little experiment involving a 100 lb flywheel, belt driven by a variety of as yet, un specified motors. I have RVs, and plenty of induction single phase motors, in a range of horsepower, as well as dc motors to 3 hpThere are youtube videos involving flywheels with electric drives self running in south asian countries. Many have put a very good deal of their own resources to their projects they are sharing with us.I have everything needed so am building what I believe it is.Cheers Warren


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[2/9] Re: [EVGRAY] Generator

2018-03-09T13:26:17+00:00 · triadutrad <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Remember to orient all flywheel shafts NORTH and SOUTH  and and have the main rotation be  CCW  as seen from the south shaft to the north  else you will help to destroy the planet by creating more gyroscopic distortion in its movement ( its starting to slow down and wooble )  due to all vertical motor rum machinery and non oriented gyroscopic generated motion... 

forget about global warming , its this that will end with the planet of apes we live in ...."Gyroscopic  redirection"

also in this N S shaft  oriented mode ball bearings will last longer 
 
print this & keep  

:Hector: Perez - Torres 
© ark research  1960,2018   


 

---In [email protected], <stargatejrod@...> wrote :

 Hello Warren, 

 

 Well, Hector has said the Generator has to have a frequency ( AC )increase for the slip ( 7% )which seems logical, as there will be load pulling the motor down, but the flywheel with a correct pulley ratio should fight the load with the energy stored in the rotation.  It's supposed to be what is called "The Wheel-work of Nature". A sort-of Capacitance in a "Physical form.?

 

 Ya may try the "Magical" x 1.618 ratio or divide as a start....that's my plan as ya can see in the attached "Pic" / plan.  Parts on order... April before assembly and tests.
 

 Will report my results...Failure or Success  : ]

 
 
 

 


 






 


 From: "Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 9:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Generator

 
   Mark
 It is a nice video, but I still have a hard time following the ratios, and logic.
 He uses dc while most use ac
 It could be 3rd world availability and is not important because it is a mechanical phenomenon, and electricity is only a convenient method of energy transfer..
 Cheers Warrren

 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android
 
 On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:07 PM, Mark stargatejrod@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   
 Hello Warren,
 

 Perhaps this guy can give ya some ideas as he has been there, done that...
 énergie gratuite a 100% fr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6LYEjlh4Nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6LYEjlh4Nk
 

 WE all know who he is..

 
 


 From: "Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 2:42 PM
 Subject: [EVGRAY] Generator

 
   
 

Hi everyone This is a little 2.6 kw 120 240 volt generator that I have just removed the hydraulic drive from, as used in the sail boat, years back.
 I am doing a silly little experiment involving a 100 lb flywheel, belt driven by a variety of as yet, un specified motors. I have RVs, and plenty of induction single phase motors, in a range of horsepower, as well as dc motors to 3 hp
 There are youtube videos involving flywheels with electric drives self running in south asian countries. Many have put a very good deal of their own resources to their projects they are sharing with us.
 I have everything needed so am building what I believe it is.
 Cheers Warren


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[3/9] Re: [EVGRAY] Generator

2018-03-09T13:27:41+00:00 · Warren Keillor <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Hi MarkSince I am assembling this from bits and pieces from my hoarding over the years, it looks like it is a bit larger.The flywheel as weighed yesterday, complete with the cast iron hub, on bathroom type, scales is exactly 100 lbs.I am turning it on a 1 inch diameter shaft.I broke down and purchased a couple of pillow block ball bearings from Princess, along with a selection of cast iron pulleys that take tapered bushing inserts that act like collet chucks to clamp the pulleys to the shaft, yet make it super easy to remove them should you decide you want to change them. A whole range of cast iron pulleys can fit on the same bushing size, so I only needed to buy a couple of bushings.For the motors, I have a selection of WEG single phase 1/4, 1/3, and 1 hp, all the same frame type, and shaft size, providing they all work. The capacitors have been bashed off on a couple of them.( I need to replace caps. How does one calculate what value is needed?) I don't care about how big in space they take up. Can I just use oil filled ones that I have, just like the Rotoverter?I have a bunch of 100mf, 4000 volt caps, and a collection of smaller sizes, that I can likely make up values needed, if they can be used for this experiment.What I found intriguing was that on the video Darrell sent to us, the guy was using dc motors, one super charged, as it were, with super magnets.I have lots of big dc motors up to 3 hp.With the ac generator, I can use a variac, and rectify it playing with the entire voltage range from the 240 volts up or down to a 90 volt motor?....thinking.Today, if I can get my wheel mounted in the angle iron frame,  sitting and turning on the bearings, it will be a good day.I has been snowing for several days on end, ignoring Spring completely. My workshop is unheated stone, capable of sucking any heat out of biology that enters. There is a wood stove, left there as a joke, I'm sure, by the previous owner.Greased ball bearings with seals will stay, as dust and dirt will be kept out, even if there is a penalty of drag.If we are so marginal, in energy production, that it means working, or not, well, it may not be a keeper.Cheers Warren

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  On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 12:01 AM, Mark [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Hello Warren, 

Well, Hector has said the Generator has to have a frequency ( AC )increase for the slip ( 7% )which seems logical, as there will be load pulling the motor down, but the flywheel with a correct pulley ratio should fight the load with the energy stored in the rotation.  It's supposed to be what is called "The Wheel-work of Nature". A sort-of Capacitance in a "Physical form.?
Ya may try the "Magical" x 1.618 ratio or divide as a start....that's my plan as ya can see in the attached "Pic" / plan.  Parts on order... April before assembly and tests.
Will report my results...Failure or Success  : ]




   

   From: "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 9:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Generator
  
    MarkIt is a nice video, but I still have a hard time following the ratios, and logic.He uses dc while most use acIt could be 3rd world availability and is not important because it is a mechanical phenomenon, and electricity is only a convenient method of energy transfer..Cheers Warrren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:07 PM, Mark [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       Hello Warren,
Perhaps this guy can give ya some ideas as he has been there, done that...
énergie gratuite a 100% fr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6LYEjlh4Nk
WE all know who he is..


      From: "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 2:42 PM
 Subject: [EVGRAY] Generator
  
    
Hi everyoneThis is a little 2.6 kw 120 240 volt generator that I have just removed the hydraulic drive from, as used in the sail boat, years back.I am doing a silly little experiment involving a 100 lb flywheel, belt driven by a variety of as yet, un specified motors. I have RVs, and plenty of induction single phase motors, in a range of horsepower, as well as dc motors to 3 hpThere are youtube videos involving flywheels with electric drives self running in south asian countries. Many have put a very good deal of their own resources to their projects they are sharing with us.I have everything needed so am building what I believe it is.Cheers Warren


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[4/9] Re: [EVGRAY] Generator

2018-03-09T13:30:12+00:00 · triadutrad <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Rotary kinetic energy condenser .... works as a mechanical capacitor to store energy .... again i warn must be oriented properly ... 
 

---In [email protected], <stargatejrod@...> wrote :

 Hello Warren, 

 A sort-of Capacitance in a "Physical form.?
 


 






 


 From: "Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 9:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Generator

 
   Mark
 It is a nice video, but I still have a hard time following the ratios, and logic.
 He uses dc while most use ac
 It could be 3rd world availability and is not important because it is a mechanical phenomenon, and electricity is only a convenient method of energy transfer..
 Cheers Warrren

 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android
 
 On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:07 PM, Mark stargatejrod@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   
 Hello Warren,
 

 Perhaps this guy can give ya some ideas as he has been there, done that...
 énergie gratuite a 100% fr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6LYEjlh4Nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6LYEjlh4Nk
 

 WE all know who he is..

 
 


 From: "Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 2:42 PM
 Subject: [EVGRAY] Generator

 
   
 

Hi everyone This is a little 2.6 kw 120 240 volt generator that I have just removed the hydraulic drive from, as used in the sail boat, years back.
 I am doing a silly little experiment involving a 100 lb flywheel, belt driven by a variety of as yet, un specified motors. I have RVs, and plenty of induction single phase motors, in a range of horsepower, as well as dc motors to 3 hp
 There are youtube videos involving flywheels with electric drives self running in south asian countries. Many have put a very good deal of their own resources to their projects they are sharing with us.
 I have everything needed so am building what I believe it is.
 Cheers Warren


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[5/9] Re: [EVGRAY] Generator

2018-03-09T13:59:38+00:00 · Warren Keillor <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Hi HectorHow does the orientation have to be? Is it something like Focaud's pendulum or something?I got bitten in the ass once over that one.You may have seen those metal bals in a line suspended by strings? Knock one and they swing back and forth for a very long time?I got a panic call one day from a production wanting to put the office toy on a turntable. I had rented them the turntable as they asked for. They were complaining that the toy didn't work when they put it on my turntable, and then started the turntable. All the balls would go into a jumble falling out of synch and stop.I failed to have a ready magic for them at the moment.That night, still brooding about it, I read about Focaut and his pendulum, and of course, the earth's rotation, the damn sphere, in space.Inertia, gravity, and centrifugal force, oh how they come home to roost. We are so naive, yet to watch a labrador catch a ball, and see the calculus of all these factors, you feel truly humble, with our pathetic understanding.Cheers Warren

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  On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:38 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Rotary kinetic energy condenser .... works as a mechanical capacitor to store energy .... again i warn must be oriented properly ... 



---In [email protected], <stargatejrod@...> wrote :

Hello Warren, 
 A sort-of Capacitance in a "Physical form.?





   From: "Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 9:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Generator

 MarkIt is a nice video, but I still have a hard time following the ratios, and logic.He uses dc while most use acIt could be 3rd world availability and is not important because it is a mechanical phenomenon, and electricity is only a convenient method of energy transfer..Cheers Warrren

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On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:07 PM, Mark stargatejrod@... [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: Hello Warren,
Perhaps this guy can give ya some ideas as he has been there, done that...
énergie gratuite a 100% fr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6LYEjlh4Nk
WE all know who he is..


   From: "Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 2:42 PM
 Subject: [EVGRAY] Generator

 
Hi everyoneThis is a little 2.6 kw 120 240 volt generator that I have just removed the hydraulic drive from, as used in the sail boat, years back.I am doing a silly little experiment involving a 100 lb flywheel, belt driven by a variety of as yet, un specified motors. I have RVs, and plenty of induction single phase motors, in a range of horsepower, as well as dc motors to 3 hpThere are youtube videos involving flywheels with electric drives self running in south asian countries. Many have put a very good deal of their own resources to their projects they are sharing with us.I have everything needed so am building what I believe it is.Cheers Warren


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[6/9] Re: [EVGRAY] Generator

2018-03-09T14:08:11+00:00 · Warren Keillor <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
HectorI love it!It makes perfect sense!Hah, ha! Of course! That must be it.I will be sure to do it that way.This must be as old as hand cranked stone grindstones, and this simple rustic observation must have disappeared in the eons.Maybe it should be tested while we are doing this?Cheers Warren

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Remember to orient all flywheel shafts NORTH and SOUTH  and and have the main rotation be  CCW  as seen from the south shaft to the north  else you will help to destroy the planet by creating more gyroscopic distortion in its movement ( its starting to slow down and wooble )  due to all vertical motor rum machinery and non oriented gyroscopic generated motion... 

forget about global warming , its this that will end with the planet of apes we live in ...."Gyroscopic  redirection"

also in this N S shaft  oriented mode ball bearings will last longer 
 
print this & keep  

:Hector: Perez - Torres 
© ark research  1960,2018   





---In [email protected], <stargatejrod@...> wrote :

Hello Warren, 

Well, Hector has said the Generator has to have a frequency ( AC )increase for the slip ( 7% )which seems logical, as there will be load pulling the motor down, but the flywheel with a correct pulley ratio should fight the load with the energy stored in the rotation.  It's supposed to be what is called "The Wheel-work of Nature". A sort-of Capacitance in a "Physical form.?
Ya may try the "Magical" x 1.618 ratio or divide as a start....that's my plan as ya can see in the attached "Pic" / plan.  Parts on order... April before assembly and tests.
Will report my results...Failure or Success  : ]






   From: "Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 9:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Generator

 MarkIt is a nice video, but I still have a hard time following the ratios, and logic.He uses dc while most use acIt could be 3rd world availability and is not important because it is a mechanical phenomenon, and electricity is only a convenient method of energy transfer..Cheers Warrren

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On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:07 PM, Mark stargatejrod@... [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: Hello Warren,
Perhaps this guy can give ya some ideas as he has been there, done that...
énergie gratuite a 100% fr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6LYEjlh4Nk
WE all know who he is..


   From: "Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 2:42 PM
 Subject: [EVGRAY] Generator

 
Hi everyoneThis is a little 2.6 kw 120 240 volt generator that I have just removed the hydraulic drive from, as used in the sail boat, years back.I am doing a silly little experiment involving a 100 lb flywheel, belt driven by a variety of as yet, un specified motors. I have RVs, and plenty of induction single phase motors, in a range of horsepower, as well as dc motors to 3 hpThere are youtube videos involving flywheels with electric drives self running in south asian countries. Many have put a very good deal of their own resources to their projects they are sharing with us.I have everything needed so am building what I believe it is.Cheers Warren


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[7/9] Re: [EVGRAY] Generator

2018-03-09T14:33:48+00:00 · triadutrad <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
See how a gyro compass works and how is mounted ,, you will get many answers , I worked as aircraft & instrumentation mechanic technician long ago , also developed compass  instrumentation to navigate beyond the poles
& inside the earth  ,,,, if you find some rich bastards  who want to challenge a flat earth with a sea urchin alike hollow earth theory let me know , lets built an expedition team & go there !  , if you know all this famous movie eccentric SOBs , why not try to get an exotic R&D  going on ? they can get a lot of movie material doing reality instead of fiction ... win win even tax deductible thing ..

M5 mythbusters eat your heart out !  ( we can do much better )  

(H)  




 

---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

 Hector I love it!
 It makes perfect sense!
 Hah, ha! Of course! That must be it.
 I will be sure to do it that way.
 This must be as old as hand cranked stone grindstones, and this simple rustic observation must have disappeared in the eons.
 Maybe it should be tested while we are doing this?
 Cheers Warren
 

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 On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:53 AM, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   

Remember to orient all flywheel shafts NORTH and SOUTH  and and have the main rotation be  CCW  as seen from the south shaft to the north  else you will help to destroy the planet by creating more gyroscopic distortion in its movement ( its starting to slow down and wooble )  due to all vertical motor rum machinery and non oriented gyroscopic generated motion... 

forget about global warming , its this that will end with the planet of apes we live in ...."Gyroscopic  redirection"

also in this N S shaft  oriented mode ball bearings will last longer 
 
print this & keep  

:Hector: Perez - Torres 
© ark research  1960,2018   



 

---In [email protected], <stargatejrod@...> wrote :

 Hello Warren, 

 

 Well, Hector has said the Generator has to have a frequency ( AC )increase for the slip ( 7% )which seems logical, as there will be load pulling the motor down, but the flywheel with a correct pulley ratio should fight the load with the energy stored in the rotation.  It's supposed to be what is called "The Wheel-work of Nature". A sort-of Capacitance in a "Physical form.?

 

 Ya may try the "Magical" x 1.618 ratio or divide as a start....that's my plan as ya can see in the attached "Pic" / plan.  Parts on order... April before assembly and tests.
 

 Will report my results...Failure or Success  : ]

 
 
 

 


 






 


 From: "Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 9:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Generator

 
   Mark
 It is a nice video, but I still have a hard time following the ratios, and logic.
 He uses dc while most use ac
 It could be 3rd world availability and is not important because it is a mechanical phenomenon, and electricity is only a convenient method of energy transfer..
 Cheers Warrren

 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android
 
 On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:07 PM, Mark stargatejrod@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   
 Hello Warren,
 

 Perhaps this guy can give ya some ideas as he has been there, done that...
 énergie gratuite a 100% fr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6LYEjlh4Nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6LYEjlh4Nk
 

 WE all know who he is..

 
 


 From: "Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 2:42 PM
 Subject: [EVGRAY] Generator

 
   
 

Hi everyone This is a little 2.6 kw 120 240 volt generator that I have just removed the hydraulic drive from, as used in the sail boat, years back.
 I am doing a silly little experiment involving a 100 lb flywheel, belt driven by a variety of as yet, un specified motors. I have RVs, and plenty of induction single phase motors, in a range of horsepower, as well as dc motors to 3 hp
 There are youtube videos involving flywheels with electric drives self running in south asian countries. Many have put a very good deal of their own resources to their projects they are sharing with us.
 I have everything needed so am building what I believe it is.
 Cheers Warren


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[8/9] Re: [EVGRAY] Generator

2018-03-09T14:43:58+00:00 · triadutrad <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Yep Coriolis force in the turntable caused the  Foucault's  pendulums to "Fuck-all-Out" of their swing ... "literally"


(H) 

---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

 Hi Hector How does the orientation have to be? 
 Is it something like Focaud's pendulum or something?
 I got bitten in the ass once over that one.
 You may have seen those metal bals in a line suspended by strings? Knock one and they swing back and forth for a very long time?
 I got a panic call one day from a production wanting to put the office toy on a turntable. I had rented them the turntable as they asked for. They were complaining that the toy didn't work when they put it on my turntable, and then started the turntable. All the balls would go into a jumble falling out of synch and stop.
 I failed to have a ready magic for them at the moment.
 That night, still brooding about it, I read about Focaut and his pendulum, and of course, the earth's rotation, the damn sphere, in space.
 Inertia, gravity, and centrifugal force, oh how they come home to roost. We are so naive, yet to watch a labrador catch a ball, and see the calculus of all these factors, you feel truly humble, with our pathetic understanding.
 Cheers Warren

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 On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:38 AM, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   Rotary kinetic energy condenser .... works as a mechanical capacitor to store energy .... again i warn must be oriented properly ... 

 

---In [email protected], <stargatejrod@...> wrote :

 Hello Warren, 

 A sort-of Capacitance in a "Physical form.?
 


 






 


 From: "Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 9:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Generator

 
   Mark
 It is a nice video, but I still have a hard time following the ratios, and logic.
 He uses dc while most use ac
 It could be 3rd world availability and is not important because it is a mechanical phenomenon, and electricity is only a convenient method of energy transfer..
 Cheers Warrren

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 On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:07 PM, Mark stargatejrod@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   
 Hello Warren,
 

 Perhaps this guy can give ya some ideas as he has been there, done that...
 énergie gratuite a 100% fr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6LYEjlh4Nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6LYEjlh4Nk
 

 WE all know who he is..

 
 


 From: "Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 2:42 PM
 Subject: [EVGRAY] Generator

 
   
 

Hi everyone This is a little 2.6 kw 120 240 volt generator that I have just removed the hydraulic drive from, as used in the sail boat, years back.
 I am doing a silly little experiment involving a 100 lb flywheel, belt driven by a variety of as yet, un specified motors. I have RVs, and plenty of induction single phase motors, in a range of horsepower, as well as dc motors to 3 hp
 There are youtube videos involving flywheels with electric drives self running in south asian countries. Many have put a very good deal of their own resources to their projects they are sharing with us.
 I have everything needed so am building what I believe it is.
 Cheers Warren


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Hello Warren,

My intention is to try on a smaller scale, as to prove concept of "Theory", then as success happens, just scale UP !
Both AC and DC rigs..

I've done the Rotoverter rig and have no issues with the possibly of "Looping" it, it's easy to see the energy is there.  My next step will be the trans. in series ?  The weak point in the Rotoverter seems to be the "Inverter" part...efficiency,  that is if the intention is "Off-the-shelf" by definition..so ALL can build.
I just like the "K.I.S.S." formula..[K]eep, [I]t, [S]imple, [S]tupid,  but then again I might have told on myself ? : [
Received 5.5v x (6) super-caps today in mail. Have to order more caps as in testing the Gen, it is putting out more than 77v....Damn ! 

Awaiting;
1) Various sized pulleys and rubber band / O-ring belts.
2) Flywheel bearing ( center )


      From: "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 8:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Generator [2 Attachments]
   
    Hi MarkSince I am assembling this from bits and pieces from my hoarding over the years, it looks like it is a bit larger.The flywheel as weighed yesterday, complete with the cast iron hub, on bathroom type, scales is exactly 100 lbs.I am turning it on a 1 inch diameter shaft.I broke down and purchased a couple of pillow block ball bearings from Princess, along with a selection of cast iron pulleys that take tapered bushing inserts that act like collet chucks to clamp the pulleys to the shaft, yet make it super easy to remove them should you decide you want to change them. A whole range of cast iron pulleys can fit on the same bushing size, so I only needed to buy a couple of bushings.For the motors, I have a selection of WEG single phase 1/4, 1/3, and 1 hp, all the same frame type, and shaft size, providing they all work. The capacitors have been bashed off on a couple of them.( I need to replace caps. How does one calculate what value is needed?) I don't care about how big in space they take up. Can I just use oil filled ones that I have, just like the Rotoverter?I have a bunch of 100mf, 4000 volt caps, and a collection of smaller sizes, that I can likely make up values needed, if they can be used for this experiment.What I found intriguing was that on the video Darrell sent to us, the guy was using dc motors, one super charged, as it were, with super magnets.I have lots of big dc motors up to 3 hp.With the ac generator, I can use a variac, and rectify it playing with the entire voltage range from the 240 volts up or down to a 90 volt motor?....thinking.Today, if I can get my wheel mounted in the angle iron frame,  sitting and turning on the bearings, it will be a good day.I has been snowing for several days on end, ignoring Spring completely. My workshop is unheated stone, capable of sucking any heat out of biology that enters. There is a wood stove, left there as a joke, I'm sure, by the previous owner.Greased ball bearings with seals will stay, as dust and dirt will be kept out, even if there is a penalty of drag.If we are so marginal, in energy production, that it means working, or not, well, it may not be a keeper.Cheers Warren

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  On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 12:01 AM, Mark [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       Hello Warren, 

Well, Hector has said the Generator has to have a frequency ( AC )increase for the slip ( 7% )which seems logical, as there will be load pulling the motor down, but the flywheel with a correct pulley ratio should fight the load with the energy stored in the rotation.  It's supposed to be what is called "The Wheel-work of Nature". A sort-of Capacitance in a "Physical form.?
Ya may try the "Magical" x 1.618 ratio or divide as a start....that's my plan as ya can see in the attached "Pic" / plan.  Parts on order... April before assembly and tests.
Will report my results...Failure or Success  : ]




   

   From: "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 9:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Generator
  
    MarkIt is a nice video, but I still have a hard time following the ratios, and logic..He uses dc while most use acIt could be 3rd world availability and is not important because it is a mechanical phenomenon, and electricity is only a convenient method of energy transfer..Cheers Warrren

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  On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:07 PM, Mark [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       Hello Warren,
Perhaps this guy can give ya some ideas as he has been there, done that...
énergie gratuite a 100% fr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6LYEjlh4Nk
WE all know who he is..


      From: "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 2:42 PM
 Subject: [EVGRAY] Generator
  
    
Hi everyoneThis is a little 2.6 kw 120 240 volt generator that I have just removed the hydraulic drive from, as used in the sail boat, years back.I am doing a silly little experiment involving a 100 lb flywheel, belt driven by a variety of as yet, un specified motors. I have RVs, and plenty of induction single phase motors, in a range of horsepower, as well as dc motors to 3 hpThere are youtube videos involving flywheels with electric drives self running in south asian countries. Many have put a very good deal of their own resources to their projects they are sharing with us.I have everything needed so am building what I believe it is.Cheers Warren


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