INTERESTING ROTOVERTOR CIRCUIT BY PHIL WOOD

21 messages · 2018-03-04T11:48:05+00:00 → 2018-03-05T07:30:59+00:00

[1/21] INTERESTING ROTOVERTOR CIRCUIT BY PHIL WOOD

2018-03-04T11:48:05+00:00 · Douglas Konzen <[email protected]>
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Hi all

This is rotoverto motor circuit done by Phil Wood from Australia  a few years ago (maybe could also be a Transvertor 3ph transformer circuit too?)

...note he has a small cap across each phase wind, then pulls out power from the run cap phase (virtual phase) of the rotovertor motor by first going through a FWBR, and then this charges a battery (lead acid I am sure) then note he has power go in series through a DC load....apparently this could be used at start-up to get the motor going, instead of using a great big UF cap for the start cap so energy is not wasted upon start up is one of its uses....This sort of replaces the run cap capacitor with a DC load I think is overall idea (two DC loads actually)

This circuit might be dangerous if you connect that switch while motor is running at sinewave speed, and the DC load resembles the load of a start cap - it would make huge magnetic braking to the motor rotor and slam it to stop very abrupt motor could fly off bench break a rib or two like what happened to Norm...

ciao

Kone

[2/21] Re: INTERESTING ROTOVERTOR CIRCUIT BY PHIL WOOD

2018-03-04T12:42:01+00:00 · Sven Friedrich <[email protected]>
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Hello Douglas,

this is the transverter circuit as a direct looping, which of course has to be tuned.

regards

Sven
This is passive RE amplification circuit using microwave oven transformers 

(H) 


 

---In [email protected], <s.friedrich@...> wrote :

 Hello Douglas,

this is the transverter circuit as a direct looping, which of course has to be tuned.

regards

Sven

[4/21] Re: INTERESTING ROTOVERTOR CIRCUIT BY PHIL WOOD

2018-03-04T13:24:23+00:00 · Sven Friedrich <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
But this way you could do the direct looping and use a 230 / 12V transformer instead of the MOT and connect a battery to the FWBR.

regards

Sven
I don't think the circuit is correct . 









This is correct and simpler to tune  (start cap omitted )  cap value in farads equals loaded transformer in henrys 

capacitor circuit is  136VAC  

primary of transformer is 120VAC , secundary of transformer is 13.8 DCP after diode bridge ,,,


henry 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_(unit) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_(unit)


farad 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farad


the notion is one farad equals  1 volt       1 ampere 1 second 

 and the Henry                        1 ampere 1 volt       1 second 

In RE  the capacitor is the VOLTAGE node  and the INDUCTOR is the ampere node .. (standing wave resonance dynamics) 

capacitance = impedance  but opposed ! 

if in RV you replace a capacitor with an impedance the motor will run in reverse ....

if you switch  from a capacitor to an impedance or impedance to capacitor wile running an RV motor you can create a hell of a NEUTRAL spike EMP 
and have the motor tear the working table off the floor and or walls .

so be careful  EXTREME danger ....  you can also bring down the utility power system and collapse it with the neutral spike .. or blow your neighborhood transformer and or sub station  fuses ...


(H) 
 




 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

 Hi all
 This is rotoverto motor circuit done by Phil Wood from Australia  a few years ago (maybe could also be a Transvertor 3ph transformer circuit too?)
 ...note he has a small cap across each phase wind, then pulls out power from the run cap phase (virtual phase) of the rotovertor motor by first going through a FWBR, and then this charges a battery (lead acid I am sure) then note he has power go in series through a DC load....apparently this could be used at start-up to get the motor going, instead of using a great big UF cap for the start cap so energy is not wasted upon start up is one of its uses....This sort of replaces the run cap capacitor with a DC load I think is overall idea (two DC loads actually)
 This circuit might be dangerous if you connect that switch while motor is running at sinewave speed, and the DC load resembles the load of a start cap - it would make huge magnetic braking to the motor rotor and slam it to stop very abrupt motor could fly off bench break a rib or two like what happened to Norm...
 ciao
 Kone

[6/21] Re: INTERESTING ROTOVERTOR CIRCUIT BY PHIL WOOD

2018-03-04T13:54:39+00:00 · Sven Friedrich <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Hello Hector,

how do I get the capacitors discharged even faster so that the thyristors can turn off even faster. You once wrote that one should switch capacitors parallel to the thyristors, where should the capacitors be connected exactly?

regards

Sven
That is for snubber and switch off topology ...

The way you dump your energy is reducing your load resistance ....

You can discharge  into a LOW impedance and capture the resulting 
field collapse Pulse that will result in a discharged capacitor at  your duty cycle needs within  1/120th of a second  or  1/240  

buck plug applies here

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck%E2%80%93boost_converter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck%E2%80%93boost_converter

that is why i included the  (impedance) buck converter " dynamics into diode plug ones "  I know many will blow a brain fuse with that one but as long as at least one of you works with it is OK  .. and they are doing fine ......

remember to print & compile all my notes & postings  as its the bitchy details that need attention ,,, and don't confuse one data with the other .

snubbing is one thing , buck converting another ..

see the 4 methods ,(Last one is the coil shorting one ) that you applied to
konemotor coils in dynamic rotation magnetic induction .  an scr may be used for than but YOU need to Turn it off , there the other parallel scr switch 
turn off topology applies  !   making the circuit more complex and design demanding ( tuning )     

©  ARK  1980,2019 

(H) 

  




(H)

[8/21] Re: INTERESTING ROTOVERTOR CIRCUIT BY PHIL WOOD

2018-03-04T14:50:13+00:00 · Sven Friedrich <[email protected]>
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Not so easy not to confuse something, there are so many new impressions and always other approaches to generate free energy.

I am committed to it.

So I would have to build a Class C, D commutation if I want to turn off the thyristor controlled.

Or just work with the impedance of the push-pull transformer.

Could push the spikes directly into a battery on the secondary side of the push-pull transformer via a FWBR. There are 500 to 600V tips without destroying them?!?

I am struggling to get the energy to a low voltage level, the transformers I have, despite shorting in the secondary winding, still have a high primary impedance. I have already connected 2 equal transformers in parallel then it got better. I do not want to burn the energy but put everything into energy storage.

regards

Sven

[9/21] Re: INTERESTING ROTOVERTOR CIRCUIT BY PHIL WOOD

2018-03-04T14:59:53+00:00 · Sven Friedrich <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
The fact is, when I lower the impedance during discharge, the power consumption drops on the 3-phase transformer (transverter).

[10/21] Re: INTERESTING ROTOVERTOR CIRCUIT BY PHIL WOOD

2018-03-04T15:01:00+00:00 · Douglas Konzen <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
HI HEctor
 I found that Phil Wood circuit going through all the files in EVGRAY files as I dump them into flashdrive to save for inevitable yahoo implosion....
 Tjanks for correction to it!
 

 Phil Wood had his rotovertor motor actually explode from sudden and extreme magnetic braking action and was lucky he did get hit by shrapnel....maybe he hit that switch in this circuit while huge DC load applied??
 

 ciaoKone
Most of PHIL WOODS  schematics are at  FREE ENERGY CHAPTER 2 to look over @ your convenience!
 

    On Sunday, March 4, 2018 7:01 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     HI HEctorI found that Phil Wood circuit going through all the files in EVGRAY files as I dump them into flashdrive to save for inevitable yahoo implosion....Tjanks for correction to it!
Phil Wood had his rotovertor motor actually explode from sudden and extreme magnetic braking action and was lucky he did get hit by shrapnel....maybe he hit that switch in this circuit while huge DC load applied??
ciaoKone
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Hi Werner
 Where is this FREE ENERGY chapter 2? 
 In a compilation or something like that? 
 thanks
 Kone
I don't know how to give the link(computer illiterate)  but   A PRACTICAL GUIDE TO FREE ENERGY  PATRICK J KELLY I think if you google that it should come up! GOOD LUCK
 

    On Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:16 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     Hi WernerWhere is this FREE ENERGY chapter 2? In a compilation or something like that? thanksKone
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HI ALL ,have any of you heard of the MINTO WHEEL it is cheap to build & runs for FREE!  NO ELECTRICAL STUFF  JUST SIMPLE MECHANICAL DEVICE EXTREMELY PRACTICAL . 
 

    On Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:29 AM, "werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     I don't know how to give the link(computer illiterate)  but   A PRACTICAL GUIDE TO FREE ENERGY  PATRICK J KELLY I think if you google that it should come up! GOOD LUCK
 

    On Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:16 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     Hi WernerWhere is this FREE ENERGY chapter 2? In a compilation or something like that? thanksKone
  

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[15/21] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: INTERESTING ROTOVERTOR CIRCUIT BY PHIL WOOD

2018-03-05T01:22:21+00:00 · Stephen J. McDow <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <BL0PR02MB37168684B3DCDA75E29E5FE2B1DA0@BL0PR02MB3716.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
The "Minto Wheel" needs a heat source ( Solar Power , as in the article in Popular Mechanics 1974 while I lived in Chatham, New Brunswick) to warm the water in the trough that the wheel  is resting in. It is just a set of bobbing birds (The novelty toy that bobs in a glass of water and then out again) formed in the shape of a compartmentalized wheel.


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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 4:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: INTERESTING ROTOVERTOR CIRCUIT BY PHIL WOOD



HI ALL ,have any of you heard of the MINTO WHEEL it is cheap to build & runs for FREE!  NO ELECTRICAL STUFF  JUST SIMPLE MECHANICAL DEVICE EXTREMELY PRACTICAL .


On Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:29 AM, "werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:



I don't know how to give the link(computer illiterate)  but   A PRACTICAL GUIDE TO FREE ENERGY  PATRICK J KELLY I think if you google that it should come up! GOOD LUCK


On Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:16 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:



Hi Werner
Where is this FREE ENERGY chapter 2?
In a compilation or something like that?
thanks
Kone
not from what I read you take 4 propane cyliders mount them to rotate run brake line from one to another oposite & fill two w/propane ,you need a trough of warmer water to rotate the cylinders through.I may have missed something but it sounds good to me .I am going to build one to run a alternator to charge batterys 24/7
 

    On Sunday, March 4, 2018 5:22 PM, "'Stephen J. McDow' [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     The "Minto Wheel" needs a heat source ( Solar Power , as in the article in Popular Mechanics 1974 while I lived in Chatham, New Brunswick) to warm the water in the trough that the wheel  is resting in. It is just a set of bobbing birds (The novelty toy that bobs in a glass of water and then out again) formed in the shape of a compartmentalized wheel.


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 4:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: INTERESTING ROTOVERTOR CIRCUIT BY PHIL WOOD  HI ALL ,have any of you heard of the MINTO WHEEL it is cheap to build & runs for FREE!  NO ELECTRICAL STUFF  JUST SIMPLE MECHANICAL DEVICE EXTREMELY PRACTICAL .


On Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:29 AM, "werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:


 I don't know how to give the link(computer illiterate)  but   A PRACTICAL GUIDE TO FREE ENERGY  PATRICK J KELLY I think if you google that it should come up! GOOD LUCK


On Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:16 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:


 Hi WernerWhere is this FREE ENERGY chapter 2? In a compilation or something like that? thanksKone




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[17/21] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: INTERESTING ROTOVERTOR CIRCUIT BY PHIL WOOD

2018-03-05T02:37:00+00:00 · Stephen J. McDow <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <BL0PR02MB3716D49E88206748A80DFEE0B1DA0@BL0PR02MB3716.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
What you are reading is the same thing. They are just using propane tanks diametrically connected with the brake lines instead of a tubular wheel that has welded partitions with pipes connecting diametrically opposed partitions (in it's original incarnation).. The latter part of your statement is what I was referring to. The water in the trough must be heated by some other source of energy. The inventor used solar hot water panels, but, any source of heat would do i.e.wood, coal, gasoline, propane, strontium 90, etc.

😊


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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 5:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: INTERESTING ROTOVERTOR CIRCUIT BY PHIL WOOD



not from what I read you take 4 propane cyliders mount them to rotate run brake line from one to another oposite & fill two w/propane ,you need a trough of warmer water to rotate the cylinders through.I may have missed something but it sounds good to me .I am going to build one to run a alternator to charge batterys 24/7


On Sunday, March 4, 2018 5:22 PM, "'Stephen J. McDow' [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:



The "Minto Wheel" needs a heat source ( Solar Power , as in the article in Popular Mechanics 1974 while I lived in Chatham, New Brunswick) to warm the water in the trough that the wheel  is resting in. It is just a set of bobbing birds (The novelty toy that bobs in a glass of water and then out again) formed in the shape of a compartmentalized wheel.


________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 4:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: INTERESTING ROTOVERTOR CIRCUIT BY PHIL WOOD


HI ALL ,have any of you heard of the MINTO WHEEL it is cheap to build & runs for FREE!  NO ELECTRICAL STUFF  JUST SIMPLE MECHANICAL DEVICE EXTREMELY PRACTICAL .


On Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:29 AM, "werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:



I don't know how to give the link(computer illiterate)  but   A PRACTICAL GUIDE TO FREE ENERGY  PATRICK J KELLY I think if you google that it should come up! GOOD LUCK


On Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:16 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:



Hi Werner
Where is this FREE ENERGY chapter 2?
In a compilation or something like that?
thanks
Kone

[18/21] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: INTERESTING ROTOVERTOR CIRCUIT BY PHIL WOOD

2018-03-05T03:30:00+00:00 · james glinski <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <CA+uJ=nda=P-3DCyA=wshyJ=dEJ3TD0MpugS8Wp0YjJSzMWakdw@mail.gmail.com>
Very low power for a lot of money .
On Mar 4, 2018 8:37 PM, "'Stephen J. McDow' [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> What you are reading is the same thing. They are just using propane tanks
> diametrically connected with the brake lines instead of a tubular wheel
> that has welded partitions with pipes connecting diametrically opposed
> partitions (in it's original incarnation).. The latter part of your
> statement is what I was referring to. The water in the trough must be
> heated by some other source of energy. The inventor used solar hot water
> panels, but, any source of heat would do i.e.wood, coal, gasoline, propane,
> strontium 90, etc.
>
> 😊
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
> werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 4, 2018 5:41 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] Re: INTERESTING ROTOVERTOR CIRCUIT BY PHIL WOOD
>
>
>
> not from what I read you take 4 propane cyliders mount them to rotate run
> brake line from one to another oposite & fill two w/propane ,you need a
> trough of warmer water to rotate the cylinders through.I may have missed
> something but it sounds good to me .I am going to build one to run a
> alternator to charge batterys 24/7
>
>
> On Sunday, March 4, 2018 5:22 PM, "'Stephen J. McDow' [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> The "Minto Wheel" needs a heat source ( Solar Power , as in the article in
> Popular Mechanics 1974 while I lived in Chatham, New Brunswick) to warm the
> water in the trough that the wheel  is resting in. It is just a set of
> bobbing birds (The novelty toy that bobs in a glass of water and then out
> again) formed in the shape of a compartmentalized wheel.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
> werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 4, 2018 4:00 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] Re: INTERESTING ROTOVERTOR CIRCUIT BY PHIL WOOD
>
>
> HI ALL ,have any of you heard of the MINTO WHEEL it is cheap to build &
> runs for FREE!  NO ELECTRICAL STUFF  JUST SIMPLE MECHANICAL DEVICE
> EXTREMELY PRACTICAL .
>
>
> On Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:29 AM, "werner held [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> I don't know how to give the link(computer illiterate)  but   A PRACTICAL
> GUIDE TO FREE ENERGY  PATRICK J KELLY I think if you google that it should
> come up! GOOD LUCK
>
>
> On Sunday, March 4, 2018 9:16 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Werner
> Where is this FREE ENERGY chapter 2?
> In a compilation or something like that?
> thanks
> Kone
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
shorter timing does not give chance for reflective power to be manifested in primary ...

(H) 
 

---In [email protected], <s.friedrich@...> wrote :

 The fact is, when I lower the impedance during discharge, the power consumption drops on the 3-phase transformer (transverter).
well its not a little kids toy , RV packs  11 tons of kinetic force as average .
on a sudden stop ..

(H) 



 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

 HI HEctor
 I found that Phil Wood circuit going through all the files in EVGRAY files as I dump them into flashdrive to save for inevitable yahoo implosion....
 Tjanks for correction to it!
 

 Phil Wood had his rotovertor motor actually explode from sudden and extreme magnetic braking action and was lucky he did get hit by shrapnel....maybe he hit that switch in this circuit while huge DC load applied??
 

 ciaoKone