To the "Flat Earthers"!!

72 messages · 2017-12-27T14:02:23+00:00 → 2018-01-15T20:23:11+00:00
Maybe you need to embrace your dark side and bring it to the light !

[22/72] Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!

2018-01-06T04:31:35+00:00 · james glinski <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <CA+uJ=ndBteF29bYcmbd2Bj8rgJSPwVen2hOLXhPF3_CeOsT6eQ@mail.gmail.com>
Dark side like  head up your ass side ??? Nope
On Jan 5, 2018 7:48 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

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> Maybe you need to embrace your dark side and bring it to the light !
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> [image: Resultado de imagen para baphomet]
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[23/72] Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!

2018-01-06T08:07:19+00:00 · george gray <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
It says this video is unavailable


      From: "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2018, 8:03
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
   
    Well then there's this one... as I have said... everyone has one! 3-6-9, so where does "0" come in?

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[24/72] Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!

2018-01-06T12:35:39+00:00 · james glinski <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <CA+uJ=neJ5srjwbPDudtgP77xWP44q-JPvRHOc8CiOj20-5SyWw@mail.gmail.com>
Hash ....alphabet soup
On Jan 6, 2018 2:07 AM, "george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

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> *From:* "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Saturday, 6 January 2018, 8:03
> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
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> Well then there's this one... as I have said... everyone has one! 3-6-9,
> so where does "0" come in?
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> https://youtu.be/WCnhDVMbcm0
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[25/72] Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!

2018-01-06T13:51:15+00:00 · Darrell Evans <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Interesting!
It works here for me... https://youtu.be/WCnhDVMbcm0
 

    On Saturday, January 6, 2018, 4:35:51 AM PST, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     


Hash ....alphabet soup 
On Jan 6, 2018 2:07 AM, "george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

     

It says this video is unavailable


      From: "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2018, 8:03
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
  
    Well then there's this one... as I have said... everyone has one! 3-6-9, so where does "0" come in?

https://youtu.be/WCnhDVMbcm0  

      
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turds are only one way out , not against ongoing traffic....




(H)

[27/72] Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!

2018-01-07T03:31:59+00:00 · Darrell Evans <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Our California gummer Cherry Brown has his own "Gummer Brown Turd Society" I've been watching him operate from back in his days of living off pop Brown when his daddy was the goobermentor... for sure he has lost his marbles, no two ways about it! 
"Gummer Brown Turd Society" 
 

    On Saturday, January 6, 2018, 7:06:19 PM PST, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
turds are only one way out , not against ongoing traffic....




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[28/72] Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!

2018-01-07T18:58:00+00:00 · Darrell Evans <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Then there is this...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq_AfKp4ILY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq_AfKp4ILY

[29/72] Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!

2018-01-07T19:22:23+00:00 · Darrell Evans <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
And after that comes this...  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dpfy3lFC9c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dpfy3lFC9c

[30/72] Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!

2018-01-07T21:18:33+01:00 · Lutz Liebers <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Empty body

[31/72] Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!

2018-01-08T11:44:52+00:00 · george gray <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
The earth has been circumnavigated east to west millions of times but not once has it been done north to south. Ask yourself WHY? Because it is impossible on the flat earth.

      From: "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Monday, 8 January 2018, 5:58
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
   
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[32/72] Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!

2018-01-08T11:52:26+00:00 · george gray <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Lutz,
The earth has been circumnavigated east to west millions of times but not once has it been done north to south. Ask yourself WHY? Because it is impossible on the flat earth.George

      From: "Lutz Liebers [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Monday, 8 January 2018, 7:18
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
   
     Why do those flat earthers never show the underside of their flat earth? 
 This would prove how flat it is, really.
 
 But here comes the ultimate proof that the earth is flat - the pope cannot fail (by definition): 
 https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=deutsch&rais=1&oiu=https%3A%2F%2Fchemtrailsplanet.files.wordpress.com%2F2015%2F07%2Fvatican-100-lire-coin-1985-pope-john-paul.jpg&sp=3583a2329cda3cb7736c20f6c112bc5d
 
 
 
 Don't be mislead by the small airplane on top of the flat "urbi et orbi". 
 It just shows, who else is engaged in the NWO... 
 At least to me.
 
 That's not a fake coin, instead you can buy it:
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/VATICAN-100-Lire-1985-BRILLIANT-UNCIRCULATED-MINT-SET/322902720088?hash=item4b2e807e58:g:0K4AAOSwZqZaGMO9
 https://www.ebay.de/itm/VATICANO-Papa-Giovanni-Paolo-II-100-Lire-1985-FDC/253345661959?hash=item3afc940407:g:uR8AAOSw9GhYcSuz
 https://www.ebay.de/itm/City-of-Vatican-100-lire-1985-Paul-II-from-unc-set/162839155214?epid=102039264&hash=item25e9f8520e:g:hSwAAOSwXOhaUVG3
 
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[33/72] Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!

2018-01-08T12:47:55+00:00 · werner held <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
AMEN at least someone has Some SENSE THERE IS  N O  WAY I CAN BE CONVINCED THE EARTH IS    F L A T!!! 

    On Monday, January 8, 2018 4:35 AM, "John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     It has been.
And the south pole has been gone to many times.
And you cannot present to me one iota of evidence for a flat earth.  You will now, not something that can't be easily shown to be false.
Flat earth is a religion, it relies on faith and makes obnoxious attempts to convert people..
Also, scams do that too.
John Berry
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:52 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

     Lutz,
The earth has been circumnavigated east to west millions of times but not once has it been done north to south. Ask yourself WHY? Because it is impossible on the flat earth.George

      From: "Lutz Liebers [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Monday, 8 January 2018, 7:18
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
   
     Why do those flat earthers never show the underside of their flat earth? 
 This would prove how flat it is, really.
 
 But here comes the ultimate proof that the earth is flat - the pope cannot fail (by definition): 
 https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/ spg/show_picture.pl?l=deutsch& rais=1&oiu=https%3A%2F% 2Fchemtrailsplanet.files. wordpress.com%2F2015%2F07% 2Fvatican-100-lire-coin-1985- pope-john-paul.jpg&sp= 3583a2329cda3cb7736c20f6c112bc 5d
 
 
 
 Don't be mislead by the small airplane on top of the flat "urbi et orbi". 
 It just shows, who else is engaged in the NWO... 
 At least to me.
 
 That's not a fake coin, instead you can buy it:
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/ VATICAN-100-Lire-1985- BRILLIANT-UNCIRCULATED-MINT- SET/322902720088?hash= item4b2e807e58:g: 0K4AAOSwZqZaGMO9
 https://www.ebay.de/itm/ VATICANO-Papa-Giovanni-Paolo- II-100-Lire-1985-FDC/ 253345661959?hash= item3afc940407:g: uR8AAOSw9GhYcSuz
 https://www.ebay.de/itm/City- of-Vatican-100-lire-1985-Paul- II-from-unc-set/162839155214? epid=102039264&hash= item25e9f8520e:g: hSwAAOSwXOhaUVG3
 
   

      

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I got proff from a recent radio amateur satellite picture we got it is not flat !
Ole,

Your right, it's a religious cult of some kind.  Actually very 
interesting how it works on peoples brains, same as a cult.  Seems once 
they become programmed no amount of science can cut through. It's like a 
final don't confuse me with facts my mind is made up.   After this 
conclusion is accepted it becomes a final ego structured pathos that 
destroys the logos.  A logical lobotomy.

Actually a brilliant mindfuck similar to the blood sacrifice of war.  
Once a family member's life is sacrificed for the "good of the country" 
most people cant overcome the pathos that what their son daughter etc  
were fighting for was just and right no matter what the logic to the 
contrary may prove.

Perfect for the free energy crowd as a wild card to discredit anything 
else the believer and their acquaintances claim, and a perfect way to 
waste time as we are all addressing it rather than the logic of 
non-response.  The human nature to be nice and try to help a brother led 
astray is being used against us!

It's a brilliant ploy, really.  I am sure it came out of a think tank 
somewhere as a bet.  Like in the movie Trading Places, something as 
feckless likely led to this current movement.

Same as the left vs right politics where the politicians are on the same 
side playing good cop bad cop against the people they scam out of 
money.  Human nature is tribal and desires to be part of a tribe or team 
or club as a survival instinct.

The next step will be if they can get someone to kill over the flat 
earth belief, same as religions get people to kill for their superior 
sky god over they other teams.

It also turns us against one another to make enemies of friends, sadly a 
brilliant psyops for something so utterly ridiculous.


On 1/8/2018 7:38 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> There are lots of mistakes in what the flat earth believers call 
> proofs. If they looked at accepted proofs showing the earth as a globe 
> they might just be enlightened. The flat earth believers that call the 
> scientific accepted proofs of a globe earth for a conspiracy are 
> themselves conspiring against scientific enlightenment. If finding a 
> flaw in a theory it must be replaced by something better explaining 
> the observations. Why would anybody enlightened go back to the belief 
> of the dark middle age? Because of religion perhaps?! Or because there 
> is money in fake theories just like there are in fake news! Even the 
> catholic pope of 1981 admitted that the earth was a globe some decades 
> after having satellites orbiting the earth.
>
> For a scientific proof the proof has to be able to stand against 
> critique. That doesn't hold true for the flat earth theory. That was 
> also the reason why it was abandoned hundreds of years ago. If no new 
> observations that can stand the critique are shown the best theory is 
> the accepted globe earth theory which is backed up by a lot of proofs.
>
> https://wiki2.org/en/Spherical_Earth
> https://www.livescience.com/60544-ways-to-prove-earth-is-round.html
>
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <berry.john22@...> wrote :
>
> Indeed.
>
> The thing they can't do is provide a single solid reason the earth is 
> flat.
> I have offered them $11,000 dollars (that is mostly an offer from a 
> Reddit user who will pay for evidence), but suddenly they become the 
> only humans allergic to money.
>
> I have pleaded and bullied them, but no, they say I am being lazy, I 
> should research it myself, but I tell them I have and they say I do a 
> poor job of it.
>
> Their belief is based on faith, not on evidence.
> Sure, they can provide TONS of low quality faulty arguments that are 
> easily dispelled, drown you in quantity.
>
> But even if their lives, their honor are at stake, they cannot provide 
> a single solitary piece of compelling evidence, let alone proof!
>
> It's false, and logically they know it, but they don't give a fig 
> about logic.
>
> John Berry
>
>     On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:47 AM, werner held heldfabrication@...
>     <mailto:heldfabrication@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         AMEN at least someone has Some SENSE THERE IS  N O  WAY I CAN
>         BE CONVINCED THE EARTH IS    F L A T!!!
>
>
>         On Monday, January 8, 2018 4:35 AM, "John Berry
>         berry.john22@... <mailto:berry.john22@...> [EVGRAY]"
>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>         It has been.
>
>         And the south pole has been gone to many times.
>
>         And you cannot present to me one iota of evidence for a flat
>         earth.  You will now, not something that can't be easily shown
>         to be false.
>
>         Flat earth is a religion, it relies on faith and makes
>         obnoxious attempts to convert people..
>
>         Also, scams do that too.
>
>         John Berry
>
>         On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:52 AM, george gray canowindracd@...
>         <mailto:canowindracd@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>             Lutz,
>
>             The earth has been circumnavigated east to west millions
>             of times but not once has it been done north to south. Ask
>             yourself WHY? Because it is impossible on the flat earth.
>             George
>
>             ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>             *From:* "Lutz Liebers lutzliebers@...
>             <mailto:lutzliebers@...> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]
>             <mailto:[email protected]>>
>             *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>             *Sent:* Monday, 8 January 2018, 7:18
>             *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
>
>             Why do those flat earthers never show the underside of
>             their flat earth?
>             This would prove how flat it is, really.
>
>             But here comes the ultimate proof that the earth is flat -
>             the pope cannot fail (by definition):
>             https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/
>             spg/show_picture.pl?l=deutsch& rais=1&oiu=https%3A%2F%
>             2Fchemtrailsplanet.files. wordpress.com%2F2015%2F07%
>             2Fvatican-100-lire-coin-1985- pope-john-paul.jpg&sp=
>             3583a2329cda3cb7736c20f6c112bc 5d
>             <https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=deutsch&rais=1&oiu=https%3A%2F%2Fchemtrailsplanet..files.wordpress.com%2F2015%2F07%2Fvatican-100-lire-coin-1985-pope-john-paul..jpg&sp=3583a2329cda3cb7736c20f6c112bc5d>
>
>
>
>             Don't be mislead by the small airplane on top of the flat
>             "urbi et orbi".
>             It just shows, who else is engaged in the NWO...
>             At least to me.
>
>             That's not a fake coin, instead you can buy it:
>             https://www.ebay.com/itm/ VATICAN-100-Lire-1985-
>             BRILLIANT-UNCIRCULATED-MINT- SET/322902720088?hash=
>             item4b2e807e58:g: 0K4AAOSwZqZaGMO9
>             <https://www.ebay.com/itm/VATICAN-100-Lire-1985-BRILLIANT-UNCIRCULATED-MINT-SET/322902720088?hash=item4b2e807e58:g:0K4AAOSwZqZaGMO9>
>             https://www.ebay.de/itm/ VATICANO-Papa-Giovanni-Paolo-
>             II-100-Lire-1985-FDC/ 253345661959?hash= item3afc940407:g:
>             uR8AAOSw9GhYcSuz
>             <https://www.ebay.de/itm/VATICANO-Papa-Giovanni-Paolo-II-100-Lire-1985-FDC/253345661959?hash=item3afc940407:g:uR8AAOSw9GhYcSuz>
>             https://www.ebay.de/itm/City-
>             of-Vatican-100-lire-1985-Paul-
>             II-from-unc-set/162839155214? epid=102039264&hash=
>             item25e9f8520e:g: hSwAAOSwXOhaUVG3
>             <https://www.ebay.de/itm/City-of-Vatican-100-lire-1985-Paul-II-from-unc-set/162839155214?epid=102039264&hash=item25e9f8520e:g:hSwAAOSwXOhaUVG3>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Ole,

Your right, it's a religious cult of some kind.  Actually very 
interesting how it works on peoples brains, same as a cult.  Seems once 
they become programmed no amount of science can cut through. It's like a 
final don't confuse me with facts my mind is made up.   After this 
conclusion is accepted it becomes a final ego structured pathos that 
destroys the logos.  A logical lobotomy.

Actually a brilliant mindfuck similar to the blood sacrifice of war.  
Once a family member's life is sacrificed for the "good of the country" 
most people cant overcome the pathos that what their son daughter etc  
were fighting for was just and right no matter what the logic to the 
contrary may prove.

Perfect for the free energy crowd as a wild card to discredit anything 
else the believer and their acquaintances claim, and a perfect way to 
waste time as we are all addressing it rather than the logic of 
non-response.  The human nature to be nice and try to help a brother led 
astray is being used against us!

It's a brilliant ploy, really.  I am sure it came out of a think tank 
somewhere as a bet.  Like in the movie Trading Places, something as 
feckless likely led to this current movement.

Same as the left vs right politics where the politicians are on the same 
side playing good cop bad cop against the people they scam out of 
money.  Human nature is tribal and desires to be part of a tribe or team 
or club as a survival instinct.

The next step will be if they can get someone to kill over the flat 
earth belief, same as religions get people to kill for their superior 
sky god over they other teams.

It also turns us against one another to make enemies of friends, sadly a 
brilliant psyops for something so utterly ridiculous.


On 1/8/2018 7:38 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> There are lots of mistakes in what the flat earth believers call 
> proofs. If they looked at accepted proofs showing the earth as a globe 
> they might just be enlightened. The flat earth believers that call the 
> scientific accepted proofs of a globe earth for a conspiracy are 
> themselves conspiring against scientific enlightenment. If finding a 
> flaw in a theory it must be replaced by something better explaining 
> the observations. Why would anybody enlightened go back to the belief 
> of the dark middle age? Because of religion perhaps?! Or because there 
> is money in fake theories just like there are in fake news! Even the 
> catholic pope of 1981 admitted that the earth was a globe some decades 
> after having satellites orbiting the earth.
>
> For a scientific proof the proof has to be able to stand against 
> critique. That doesn't hold true for the flat earth theory. That was 
> also the reason why it was abandoned hundreds of years ago. If no new 
> observations that can stand the critique are shown the best theory is 
> the accepted globe earth theory which is backed up by a lot of proofs.
>

[37/72] Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!

2018-01-08T21:27:01+00:00 · james glinski <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <CA+uJ=neDMr2+Zgu_96GPadVnqxBoMDRkxKYVzZMviC27aou-jg@mail.gmail.com>
If it a religion were do they meet and what day ? Like on the rim .? Can we
get a side ways.  Shot ? Or is that Hersey ?
On Jan 8, 2018 2:03 PM, "John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Indeed.
>
> The thing they can't do is provide a single solid reason the earth is flat.
> I have offered them $11,000 dollars (that is mostly an offer from a Reddit
> user who will pay for evidence), but suddenly they become the only humans
> allergic to money.
>
> I have pleaded and bullied them, but no, they say I am being lazy, I
> should research it myself, but I tell them I have and they say I do a poor
> job of it.
>
> Their belief is based on faith, not on evidence.
> Sure, they can provide TONS of low quality faulty arguments that are
> easily dispelled, drown you in quantity.
>
> But even if their lives, their honor are at stake, they cannot provide a
> single solitary piece of compelling evidence, let alone proof!
>
> It's false, and logically they know it, but they don't give a fig about
> logic.
>
> John Berry
>
> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:47 AM, werner held [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> AMEN at least someone has Some SENSE THERE IS  N O  WAY I CAN BE
>> CONVINCED THE EARTH IS    F L A T!!!
>>
>>
>> On Monday, January 8, 2018 4:35 AM, "John Berry [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> It has been.
>>
>> And the south pole has been gone to many times.
>>
>> And you cannot present to me one iota of evidence for a flat earth.  You
>> will now, not something that can't be easily shown to be false.
>>
>> Flat earth is a religion, it relies on faith and makes obnoxious attempts
>> to convert people..
>>
>> Also, scams do that too.
>>
>> John Berry
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:52 AM, george gray [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Lutz,
>>
>> The earth has been circumnavigated east to west millions of times but not
>> once has it been done north to south. Ask yourself WHY? Because it is
>> impossible on the flat earth.
>> George
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* "Lutz Liebers [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
>> [email protected] <[email protected]>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Monday, 8 January 2018, 7:18
>> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
>>
>>
>> Why do those flat earthers never show the underside of their flat earth?
>> This would prove how flat it is, really.
>>
>> But here comes the ultimate proof that the earth is flat - the pope
>> cannot fail (by definition):
>> https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/ spg/show_picture.pl?l=deutsch&
>> rais=1&oiu=https%3A%2F% 2Fchemtrailsplanet.files.
>> wordpress.com%2F2015%2F07% 2Fvatican-100-lire-coin-1985-
>> pope-john-paul.jpg&sp= 3583a2329cda3cb7736c20f6c112bc 5d
>> <https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=deutsch&rais=1&oiu=https%3A%2F%2Fchemtrailsplanet..files.wordpress.com%2F2015%2F07%2Fvatican-100-lire-coin-1985-pope-john-paul..jpg&sp=3583a2329cda3cb7736c20f6c112bc5d>
>>
>>
>>
>> Don't be mislead by the small airplane on top of the flat "urbi et orbi".
>> It just shows, who else is engaged in the NWO...
>> At least to me.
>>
>> That's not a fake coin, instead you can buy it:
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/ VATICAN-100-Lire-1985-
>> BRILLIANT-UNCIRCULATED-MINT- SET/322902720088?hash= item4b2e807e58:g:
>> 0K4AAOSwZqZaGMO9
>> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/VATICAN-100-Lire-1985-BRILLIANT-UNCIRCULATED-MINT-SET/322902720088?hash=item4b2e807e58:g:0K4AAOSwZqZaGMO9>
>> https://www.ebay.de/itm/ VATICANO-Papa-Giovanni-Paolo-
>> II-100-Lire-1985-FDC/ 253345661959?hash= item3afc940407:g: uR8AAOSw9GhYcSuz
>> <https://www.ebay.de/itm/VATICANO-Papa-Giovanni-Paolo-II-100-Lire-1985-FDC/253345661959?hash=item3afc940407:g:uR8AAOSw9GhYcSuz>
>> https://www.ebay.de/itm/City- of-Vatican-100-lire-1985-Paul-
>> II-from-unc-set/162839155214? epid=102039264&hash= item25e9f8520e:g:
>> hSwAAOSwXOhaUVG3
>> <https://www.ebay.de/itm/City-of-Vatican-100-lire-1985-Paul-II-from-unc-set/162839155214?epid=102039264&hash=item25e9f8520e:g:hSwAAOSwXOhaUVG3>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
>

[38/72] Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!

2018-01-08T22:34:25+00:00 · Darrell Evans <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Well here's what I've been able to garner so far my friend... The Wisdom of God, the “Holy Ghost”, through His Son Jesus the Christ, is an intelligent, self organizing, creative, learning through trial and error, participatory, interactive, infinitively inter connected, evolutionary, exquisitely wise sentient being, completely beyond the comprehension of mankind! For a man to explain that without confusing anyone would be an amazing accomplishment if successful. Amen!
   A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels!

  God is the "WORD," and the "WORD" when uttered, causes vibrations and vibrations occur in "FREQUENCIES" and "Frequencies": are "ENERGY" and "ENERGY is Magnetoelectric force that is "everywhere" all the time, always the same, never changing, forever and ever... "God" and His Son, "Electromagnetic Radiance" is "Light".... Hence, John 8:12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJfcLBOGKsc&t=8m12s “I am"... the ... "Light," of the world. Whoever follows Me will not walk in darkness, but will have the "Light" of life.” 

 

 So first, if you want to know the truth of the matter, maybe a change in our way of thinking, will be just what the Doctor ordered!
 

  God is POWER... the same POWER that can be found on the correct universal frequency, just like the men who knew here in our past have been saying all along! Just as Tesla once said; "Someday man will hook his machines to the very wheelwork of the universe.' Lord willing!  

 Note: 1. A more complete description of "Event Horizons" would require a background of quantum gravity, such as M-theory, a new limit of supersymmetric string theory in which 11 dimensions of space-time may be identified.
  
  Fear, when combined with unbelief, can turn us aside from following our Savior Jesus Christ http://www.biblicaljesus.org/ and endanger our chance to be included among God's "Firstfruits".
 
  In this vein, notice the total contrast of overcomes in Revelation 21:7-8: 
 He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God, and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death. Amen! Thank You Lord Jesus!
 

 Note: 1. A more complete description of "Event Horizons" displayed below, would require a background of quantum gravity, such as M-theory, a new limit of supersymmetric String Theory in which 11 dimensions of space-time may be identified.....
  Having said that, for the sake of brevity, in case you are in a hurry, go to the below video clip of the Shroud of Turin and move the progress bar to the 40 min. 00 second position and see what Dr. Soons says about the reality of this Holy item. https://vimeo.com/20808394  go to 29 Minutes in this clip to get the drift of what I’m alluding to….

  We have nothing less in the “Tomb of Christ Jesus,” than the beginning of a new universe. ~ Dame Isabel Piczek PhD http://www.khouse.org/articles/2009/847/ 
 In summery; Prayer works, guns don't!
  Make yourself guilty of doing that, as Jesus told us how to pray correctly so He would listen to your prayer, in Matthew 6:5-6 and the buzz words there are, in "SECRET" and "By yourself"...
  Thank you my friends in Christ Jesus! 
 Thank You Lord Jesus!

[39/72] Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!

2018-01-09T00:38:13+00:00 · onielsen2000 <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
There are lots of mistakes in what the flat earth believers call proofs. If they looked at accepted proofs showing the earth as a globe they might just be enlightened. The flat earth believers that call the scientific accepted proofs of a globe earth for a conspiracy are themselves conspiring against scientific enlightenment. If finding a flaw in a theory it must be replaced by something better explaining the observations. Why would anybody enlightened go back to the belief of the dark middle age? Because of religion perhaps?! Or because there is money in fake theories just like there are in fake news! Even the catholic pope of 1981 admitted that the earth was a globe some decades after having satellites orbiting the earth.

For a scientific proof the proof has to be able to stand against critique. That doesn't hold true for the flat earth theory. That was also the reason why it was abandoned hundreds of years ago. If no new observations that can stand the critique are shown the best theory is the accepted globe earth theory which is backed up by a lot of proofs.

https://wiki2.org/en/Spherical_Earth https://wiki2.org/en/Spherical_Earth
https://www.livescience.com/60544-ways-to-prove-earth-is-round.html https://www.livescience.com/60544-ways-to-prove-earth-is-round.html


Regards
Ole


 

---In [email protected], <berry.john22@...> wrote :

 Indeed. 

 The thing they can't do is provide a single solid reason the earth is flat.
 I have offered them $11,000 dollars (that is mostly an offer from a Reddit user who will pay for evidence), but suddenly they become the only humans allergic to money.
 

 I have pleaded and bullied them, but no, they say I am being lazy, I should research it myself, but I tell them I have and they say I do a poor job of it.
 

 Their belief is based on faith, not on evidence.
 Sure, they can provide TONS of low quality faulty arguments that are easily dispelled, drown you in quantity.
 

 But even if their lives, their honor are at stake, they cannot provide a single solitary piece of compelling evidence, let alone proof!
 

 It's false, and logically they know it, but they don't give a fig about logic.

 
 John Berry


 
 On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:47 AM, werner held heldfabrication@... mailto:heldfabrication@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
   
 AMEN at least someone has Some SENSE THERE IS  N O  WAY I CAN BE CONVINCED THE EARTH IS    F L A T!!!
 


 On Monday, January 8, 2018 4:35 AM, "John Berry berry.john22@... mailto:berry.john22@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

 



   
 It has been. 

 And the south pole has been gone to many times.
 

 And you cannot present to me one iota of evidence for a flat earth.  You will now, not something that can't be easily shown to be false.
 

 Flat earth is a religion, it relies on faith and makes obnoxious attempts to convert people..
 

 Also, scams do that too.



 
 John Berry


 
 On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:52 AM, george gray canowindracd@... mailto:canowindracd@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:


   
 Lutz,
 

 The earth has been circumnavigated east to west millions of times but not once has it been done north to south. Ask yourself WHY? Because it is impossible on the flat earth.
 
 George




 From: "Lutz Liebers lutzliebers@... mailto:lutzliebers@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected] 
 Sent: Monday, 8 January 2018, 7:18
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
 


 
   Why do those flat earthers never show the underside of their flat earth? 
 This would prove how flat it is, really.
 
 But here comes the ultimate proof that the earth is flat - the pope cannot fail (by definition): 
 https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/ spg/show_picture.pl?l=deutsch& rais=1&oiu=https%3A%2F% 2Fchemtrailsplanet.files. wordpress.com%2F2015%2F07% 2Fvatican-100-lire-coin-1985- pope-john-paul.jpg&sp= 3583a2329cda3cb7736c20f6c112bc 5d https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=deutsch&rais=1&oiu=https%3A%2F%2Fchemtrailsplanet..files.wordpress.com%2F2015%2F07%2Fvatican-100-lire-coin-1985-pope-john-paul..jpg&sp=3583a2329cda3cb7736c20f6c112bc5d
 
 
 
 Don't be mislead by the small airplane on top of the flat "urbi et orbi". 
 It just shows, who else is engaged in the NWO... 
 At least to me.
 
 That's not a fake coin, instead you can buy it:
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/ VATICAN-100-Lire-1985- BRILLIANT-UNCIRCULATED-MINT- SET/322902720088?hash= item4b2e807e58:g: 0K4AAOSwZqZaGMO9 https://www.ebay.com/itm/VATICAN-100-Lire-1985-BRILLIANT-UNCIRCULATED-MINT-SET/322902720088?hash=item4b2e807e58:g:0K4AAOSwZqZaGMO9
 https://www.ebay.de/itm/ VATICANO-Papa-Giovanni-Paolo- II-100-Lire-1985-FDC/ 253345661959?hash= item3afc940407:g: uR8AAOSw9GhYcSuz https://www.ebay.de/itm/VATICANO-Papa-Giovanni-Paolo-II-100-Lire-1985-FDC/253345661959?hash=item3afc940407:g:uR8AAOSw9GhYcSuz


https://www.ebay.de/itm/City- of-Vatican-100-lire-1985-Paul- II-from-unc-set/162839155214? epid=102039264&hash= item25e9f8520e:g: hSwAAOSwXOhaUVG3 https://www.ebay.de/itm/City-of-Vatican-100-lire-1985-Paul-II-from-unc-set/162839155214?epid=102039264&hash=item25e9f8520e:g:hSwAAOSwXOhaUVG3

[40/72] Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!

2018-01-09T00:55:57+00:00 · james glinski <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <CA+uJ=ncqyMduCtBdXMetqcV=ij-ECLup==jw=7u9x-_itOOZyA@mail.gmail.com>
There's been times when common sense need not apply China planted there
corn 24 inches deep .when they heard that we planted 2 inch's deep . this
flat earth stuff could be  cyci ops from someone trying to gauge the
public's gullibility . to try to find a way to make money on it ..like
Global warming .if they will buy this well maybe they will buy something
else . a fishing expedition..
On Jan 8, 2018 6:38 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> There are lots of mistakes in what the flat earth believers call proofs.
> If they looked at accepted proofs showing the earth as a globe they might
> just be enlightened. The flat earth believers that call the scientific
> accepted proofs of a globe earth for a conspiracy are themselves conspiring
> against scientific enlightenment. If finding a flaw in a theory it must be
> replaced by something better explaining the observations. Why would anybody
> enlightened go back to the belief of the dark middle age? Because of
> religion perhaps?! Or because there is money in fake theories just like
> there are in fake news! Even the catholic pope of 1981 admitted that the
> earth was a globe some decades after having satellites orbiting the earth.
>
> For a scientific proof the proof has to be able to stand against critique.
> That doesn't hold true for the flat earth theory. That was also the reason
> why it was abandoned hundreds of years ago. If no new observations that can
> stand the critique are shown the best theory is the accepted globe earth
> theory which is backed up by a lot of proofs.
>
> https://wiki2.org/en/Spherical_Earth
> https://www.livescience.com/60544-ways-to-prove-earth-is-round.html
>
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <berry.john22@...> wrote :
>
> Indeed.
>
> The thing they can't do is provide a single solid reason the earth is flat.
> I have offered them $11,000 dollars (that is mostly an offer from a Reddit
> user who will pay for evidence), but suddenly they become the only humans
> allergic to money.
>
> I have pleaded and bullied them, but no, they say I am being lazy, I
> should research it myself, but I tell them I have and they say I do a poor
> job of it.
>
> Their belief is based on faith, not on evidence.
> Sure, they can provide TONS of low quality faulty arguments that are
> easily dispelled, drown you in quantity.
>
> But even if their lives, their honor are at stake, they cannot provide a
> single solitary piece of compelling evidence, let alone proof!
>
> It's false, and logically they know it, but they don't give a fig about
> logic.
>
> John Berry
>
> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:47 AM, werner held heldfabrication@... [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> AMEN at least someone has Some SENSE THERE IS  N O  WAY I CAN BE CONVINCED
> THE EARTH IS    F L A T!!!
>
>
> On Monday, January 8, 2018 4:35 AM, "John Berry berry.john22@...
> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> It has been.
>
> And the south pole has been gone to many times.
>
> And you cannot present to me one iota of evidence for a flat earth.  You
> will now, not something that can't be easily shown to be false.
>
> Flat earth is a religion, it relies on faith and makes obnoxious attempts
> to convert people..
>
> Also, scams do that too.
>
> John Berry
>
> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:52 AM, george gray canowindracd@... [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Lutz,
>
> The earth has been circumnavigated east to west millions of times but not
> once has it been done north to south. Ask yourself WHY? Because it is
> impossible on the flat earth.
> George
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "Lutz Liebers lutzliebers@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Monday, 8 January 2018, 7:18
> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
>
>
> Why do those flat earthers never show the underside of their flat earth?
> This would prove how flat it is, really.
>
> But here comes the ultimate proof that the earth is flat - the pope cannot
> fail (by definition):
> https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/ spg/show_picture.pl?l=deutsch&
> rais=1&oiu=https%3A%2F% 2Fchemtrailsplanet.files.
> wordpress.com%2F2015%2F07% 2Fvatican-100-lire-coin-1985-
> pope-john-paul.jpg&sp= 3583a2329cda3cb7736c20f6c112bc 5d
> <https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=deutsch&rais=1&oiu=https%3A%2F%2Fchemtrailsplanet..files.wordpress.com%2F2015%2F07%2Fvatican-100-lire-coin-1985-pope-john-paul..jpg&sp=3583a2329cda3cb7736c20f6c112bc5d>
>
>
>
> Don't be mislead by the small airplane on top of the flat "urbi et orbi".
> It just shows, who else is engaged in the NWO...
> At least to me.
>
> That's not a fake coin, instead you can buy it:
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/ VATICAN-100-Lire-1985-
> BRILLIANT-UNCIRCULATED-MINT- SET/322902720088?hash= item4b2e807e58:g:
> 0K4AAOSwZqZaGMO9
> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/VATICAN-100-Lire-1985-BRILLIANT-UNCIRCULATED-MINT-SET/322902720088?hash=item4b2e807e58:g:0K4AAOSwZqZaGMO9>
> https://www.ebay.de/itm/ VATICANO-Papa-Giovanni-Paolo-
> II-100-Lire-1985-FDC/ 253345661959?hash= item3afc940407:g: uR8AAOSw9GhYcSuz
> <https://www.ebay.de/itm/VATICANO-Papa-Giovanni-Paolo-II-100-Lire-1985-FDC/253345661959?hash=item3afc940407:g:uR8AAOSw9GhYcSuz>
> https://www.ebay.de/itm/City- of-Vatican-100-lire-1985-Paul-
> II-from-unc-set/162839155214? epid=102039264&hash= item25e9f8520e:g:
> hSwAAOSwXOhaUVG3
> <https://www.ebay.de/itm/City-of-Vatican-100-lire-1985-Paul-II-from-unc-set/162839155214?epid=102039264&hash=item25e9f8520e:g:hSwAAOSwXOhaUVG3>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>