Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!

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Ole,

Your right, it's a religious cult of some kind.  Actually very 
interesting how it works on peoples brains, same as a cult.  Seems once 
they become programmed no amount of science can cut through. It's like a 
final don't confuse me with facts my mind is made up.   After this 
conclusion is accepted it becomes a final ego structured pathos that 
destroys the logos.  A logical lobotomy.

Actually a brilliant mindfuck similar to the blood sacrifice of war.  
Once a family member's life is sacrificed for the "good of the country" 
most people cant overcome the pathos that what their son daughter etc  
were fighting for was just and right no matter what the logic to the 
contrary may prove.

Perfect for the free energy crowd as a wild card to discredit anything 
else the believer and their acquaintances claim, and a perfect way to 
waste time as we are all addressing it rather than the logic of 
non-response.  The human nature to be nice and try to help a brother led 
astray is being used against us!

It's a brilliant ploy, really.  I am sure it came out of a think tank 
somewhere as a bet.  Like in the movie Trading Places, something as 
feckless likely led to this current movement.

Same as the left vs right politics where the politicians are on the same 
side playing good cop bad cop against the people they scam out of 
money.  Human nature is tribal and desires to be part of a tribe or team 
or club as a survival instinct.

The next step will be if they can get someone to kill over the flat 
earth belief, same as religions get people to kill for their superior 
sky god over they other teams.

It also turns us against one another to make enemies of friends, sadly a 
brilliant psyops for something so utterly ridiculous.


On 1/8/2018 7:38 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> There are lots of mistakes in what the flat earth believers call 
> proofs. If they looked at accepted proofs showing the earth as a globe 
> they might just be enlightened. The flat earth believers that call the 
> scientific accepted proofs of a globe earth for a conspiracy are 
> themselves conspiring against scientific enlightenment. If finding a 
> flaw in a theory it must be replaced by something better explaining 
> the observations. Why would anybody enlightened go back to the belief 
> of the dark middle age? Because of religion perhaps?! Or because there 
> is money in fake theories just like there are in fake news! Even the 
> catholic pope of 1981 admitted that the earth was a globe some decades 
> after having satellites orbiting the earth.
>
> For a scientific proof the proof has to be able to stand against 
> critique. That doesn't hold true for the flat earth theory. That was 
> also the reason why it was abandoned hundreds of years ago. If no new 
> observations that can stand the critique are shown the best theory is 
> the accepted globe earth theory which is backed up by a lot of proofs.
>
> https://wiki2.org/en/Spherical_Earth
> https://www.livescience.com/60544-ways-to-prove-earth-is-round.html
>
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
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> ---In [email protected], <berry.john22@...> wrote :
>
> Indeed.
>
> The thing they can't do is provide a single solid reason the earth is 
> flat.
> I have offered them $11,000 dollars (that is mostly an offer from a 
> Reddit user who will pay for evidence), but suddenly they become the 
> only humans allergic to money.
>
> I have pleaded and bullied them, but no, they say I am being lazy, I 
> should research it myself, but I tell them I have and they say I do a 
> poor job of it.
>
> Their belief is based on faith, not on evidence.
> Sure, they can provide TONS of low quality faulty arguments that are 
> easily dispelled, drown you in quantity.
>
> But even if their lives, their honor are at stake, they cannot provide 
> a single solitary piece of compelling evidence, let alone proof!
>
> It's false, and logically they know it, but they don't give a fig 
> about logic.
>
> John Berry
>
>     On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:47 AM, werner held heldfabrication@...
>     <mailto:heldfabrication@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>         AMEN at least someone has Some SENSE THERE IS  N O  WAY I CAN
>         BE CONVINCED THE EARTH IS    F L A T!!!
>
>
>         On Monday, January 8, 2018 4:35 AM, "John Berry
>         berry.john22@... <mailto:berry.john22@...> [EVGRAY]"
>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
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>         It has been.
>
>         And the south pole has been gone to many times.
>
>         And you cannot present to me one iota of evidence for a flat
>         earth.  You will now, not something that can't be easily shown
>         to be false.
>
>         Flat earth is a religion, it relies on faith and makes
>         obnoxious attempts to convert people..
>
>         Also, scams do that too.
>
>         John Berry
>
>         On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:52 AM, george gray canowindracd@...
>         <mailto:canowindracd@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>             Lutz,
>
>             The earth has been circumnavigated east to west millions
>             of times but not once has it been done north to south. Ask
>             yourself WHY? Because it is impossible on the flat earth.
>             George
>
>             ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>             *From:* "Lutz Liebers lutzliebers@...
>             <mailto:lutzliebers@...> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]
>             <mailto:[email protected]>>
>             *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>             *Sent:* Monday, 8 January 2018, 7:18
>             *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
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>             Why do those flat earthers never show the underside of
>             their flat earth?
>             This would prove how flat it is, really.
>
>             But here comes the ultimate proof that the earth is flat -
>             the pope cannot fail (by definition):
>             https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/
>             spg/show_picture.pl?l=deutsch& rais=1&oiu=https%3A%2F%
>             2Fchemtrailsplanet.files. wordpress.com%2F2015%2F07%
>             2Fvatican-100-lire-coin-1985- pope-john-paul.jpg&sp=
>             3583a2329cda3cb7736c20f6c112bc 5d
>             <https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=deutsch&rais=1&oiu=https%3A%2F%2Fchemtrailsplanet..files.wordpress.com%2F2015%2F07%2Fvatican-100-lire-coin-1985-pope-john-paul..jpg&sp=3583a2329cda3cb7736c20f6c112bc5d>
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>
>
>             Don't be mislead by the small airplane on top of the flat
>             "urbi et orbi".
>             It just shows, who else is engaged in the NWO...
>             At least to me.
>
>             That's not a fake coin, instead you can buy it:
>             https://www.ebay.com/itm/ VATICAN-100-Lire-1985-
>             BRILLIANT-UNCIRCULATED-MINT- SET/322902720088?hash=
>             item4b2e807e58:g: 0K4AAOSwZqZaGMO9
>             <https://www.ebay.com/itm/VATICAN-100-Lire-1985-BRILLIANT-UNCIRCULATED-MINT-SET/322902720088?hash=item4b2e807e58:g:0K4AAOSwZqZaGMO9>
>             https://www.ebay.de/itm/ VATICANO-Papa-Giovanni-Paolo-
>             II-100-Lire-1985-FDC/ 253345661959?hash= item3afc940407:g:
>             uR8AAOSw9GhYcSuz
>             <https://www.ebay.de/itm/VATICANO-Papa-Giovanni-Paolo-II-100-Lire-1985-FDC/253345661959?hash=item3afc940407:g:uR8AAOSw9GhYcSuz>
>             https://www.ebay.de/itm/City-
>             of-Vatican-100-lire-1985-Paul-
>             II-from-unc-set/162839155214? epid=102039264&hash=
>             item25e9f8520e:g: hSwAAOSwXOhaUVG3
>             <https://www.ebay.de/itm/City-of-Vatican-100-lire-1985-Paul-II-from-unc-set/162839155214?epid=102039264&hash=item25e9f8520e:g:hSwAAOSwXOhaUVG3>
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