What is to become of us?

Thanks for the information. I don't know it is that bad. we would loose a lot of very important information.

Hi David,With your energy " bubbles" that you can manually manipulate, we need apparatus for the less gifted to be able to detect the presence of.This involves a physical manifestation conversion of the energy to image it.Once, some simple apparatus, that is fool proof, can, in the hands of the un-gifted, demonstrate its existence, and hopefully, detect the boundries, it can then become a portal to this new physics.As you know, there is an enormous inertia to maintain our little mental universes.Something that fundamentally upsets the status quo, requires our seat belts fastened for the wild joy ride to follow.But first. We need apparatus that does not need a capable sensory organ, other than eyes, ears, or by extension, meters, and prosthetic detectors.These "detectors"may already exist, and the results are dismissed as anomalies perhaps?I very much would like to follow your progress, and continue to try to build apparatus, as my time permits.I am also following my own
scanty bits of evidence, building machines that attempt to capture energy, that can be converted to familiar forms, for convention uses.This is the general essence of this Evergray group, and everyone is valued for their contributions.The forum format seems to be being dumped by Yahoo, a corporation that has been purchased by yet, another corporation, less interested in altruistic motives, and not happy about wasting band width on non profitable enterprises.It has always been so, with research, and development.We become victims of cost accountants looking to maximize quarterly profits, rather than slow burn logs, supplying the needs of the World's future generations.Keep at it, and keep communicating.Cheers Warren
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  On Mon., 21 Oct. 2019 at 4:20 a.m., [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
"The problem with facebook group is it is very hard to find old posting. "


This site will be loosing its online support for doing searches of the archived posts. The "Conversations" page will be shut down, and the archive lost, if I read this correctly, by October 28. That is where you could scan for a subject or a word through all the posts in the archive back to day one, or get a listing of all your own posts.
All you will have left is what is in your personal email, and ability to send emails and receive them.
This site has over 113,000 posts archived, and right now we can do searches on them from the Conversations tab page online, or the search my groups function. This makes it a great resource of information, as the complete history is still present.
You can put in a request for a download of the archive now, but after the 28th it may be gone.I am still waiting for a response, but have my request in for the awaken_to_vibration site archive.13,000 posts in that one, Even after I get the file, scanning or searching it would be another issue.The content may be functionally lost.
You can use the privacy dashboard to request an archive download.https://www.verizonmedia.com/policies/us/en/verizonmedia/privacy/dashboard/index.html

Click on Yahoo, you will go to your selections page, go to the bottom of the page where you will see two URLs
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If it is a physical energy (but not electric and not magnetic). We can observe with something that can detect andhession or cohesion change. or something that detect evaporation temperature. 

 a simple device would be a capilar pipe with various size. just like lab demonstration of fluid adhession or cohesion property.
 

 other method would be bunsen burner and we measure the fire length.
 

 I think such device can be used to detect energy from bedini wheel, tesla coil, TPU, etc.

Warren, 

 That was the goal of the vibration to em site, as most vibration can be measured using a SS caliper and converted to mm or cm distances of standing waves. This takes you into another world where a machine can have added power by setting up a field between the machines frequency and the background field resonance using a mediator frequency. A tool of some kind that does not require sensitivity would be one of our main goals so people can begin to start understanding how to quantify this previously mystical energy form.
 

 We have the basics for some of these, but they have been very touchy to date and as of yet producing very low voltages and currents. I developed a platform 1a, for sensitives to begin quantifying field bubble sizes generated from scalar coils, setting up self sustaining fields from the materials atomic level data.
 When we discover the correct methods and frequencies, then F gens can be used by anyone to set these fields up. A lot of experiment yet to go on all this to come to standardized formulas.
 

 Diodes were the first level of creating em from the background field. We have two people now who had good results, so not just me, at tuning the diodes to start acting like small batteries with a constant current into a capacitor.
 

 http://www.resonantfractals.org/V2EM/V2EM_Menu.html http://www.resonantfractals.org/V2EM/V2EM_Menu.html

 

 An explanation here of exactly what a scalar cancelling coil can do. 
 http://www.resonantfractals.org/Scalar_Coil/Fundamentals_Scalar_Coils.html http://www.resonantfractals.org/Scalar_Coil/Fundamentals_Scalar_Coils.html

 These need extremely small amounts of power to start releasing a lot of energy from the nuclear levels.
 They can set up fields and then take them down using 
 

 A really neat observation of setting up a mass field from say a slug of bismuth, when you shut off the F gen the field bubble size doubles as it begins to draw it's energy from the background field.
  http://www.resonantfractals.org/V2EM/Platform_1a.html http://www.resonantfractals.org/V2EM/Platform_1a.html
 

 We have been able to make fields that are now very small and safe to play with.
 

 

 Vibration to EM experiment site:
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21myforums https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21myforums

 

 Progress is slow with only a few experimenters.
 There are a great meany sensitives, but few seem to have a technical interest.
 Working with intuition is easier for quick projects, but I do not believe it will lead to powering devices we can engineer.
 

 The goal is to provide a textbook, which can convey a comprehension, with formulas that work and can be verified by anyone. The platform 1a, is the beginning of using the F gens on small scalar coils with data that can do this consistently.
 

 Never a dull moment anymore.
 The success with ciphering the nuclear cone shaped fields, and how to finally take them back down was a major breakthrough in power. Took me a full week to get that field back down, but now we know how.
 

 If we were to develop the 89/50 method, we could use these small coils on a car engine, with F gens to set up the fields, and anyone could likely accomplish that without sensitivity. It finally reduces the set up to a set of numbers on an F gen for each layer of the field bubble. Then anyone could experience the inertial effects it produces with very little effort and very little hardware. We have yet to discover the limits of the scalar bismuth coils, but I believe they will be able to exceed my largest caliper and possibly take us very near a full levitation effect.
 

 When you begin to think about motion as a field force, and realize you can measure it as a fractal, everything changes. Where in EM motors the E and M field are setting 90 degrees from the motion that actually has the power of the field inside it.
 

 There is only one reality, to do the extraordinary things, we have to have a new base of mental modeling to match the reality.
 

 Dave L

SucahyoHave you seen any studies using such apparatus, with the Bedini Wheel, to detect unusual forms of energy?
It has been a number of years since I fired up my Bedini wheel for serious experiments, and even those were only with charging deep cycle golf cart batteries.Although I was surprised, and pleased, with the results, it seemed the magic was in conjunction with the lead acid batteries, specifically, the actual lead surface of the plates being slowly converted to another form, a crystalline matrix of lead coating the plate surfaces.This, of course, is just my speculation, based on reading Richard Feynman's lectures in physics, where he covers this matrix event in matter, where sub atoms form an array, differently constructed than the parent metal, while still being that metal. He did not elaborate, more  just left the door open.I was sorry he was not alive, so I could talk with him about the Bedini device observations with battery charging.Now, detecting bubbles in space, using a capillary tube, is interesting, should it work.I am not sure just how one might do it, at the moment.Making a capillary tube from glass is easy enough, then what?Cheers Warren
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  On Wed., 23 Oct. 2019 at 2:55 a.m., [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
If it is a physical energy (but not electric and not magnetic). We can observe with something that can detect andhession or cohesion change. or something that detect evaporation temperature.

a simple device would be a capilar pipe with various size. just like lab demonstration of fluid adhession or cohesion property.
other method would be bunsen burner and we measure the fire length.
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DaveI have a partial ingot of bismuth, and am able to cast it in any form casting can achieve, having electric furnace, and melting pots.Do you have access to a sensitive spectrometer?
It should be one that can dig down into the Johnson noise, to separate out very short wave lengths.Make friends with the local university physics department, if you haven't already.I still have to pester that experimental apparatus, with my stainless vernier calipers, in a more intense, and concentrated manner, rather than a quick fly by, doing another task.Cheers Warren
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  On Wed., 23 Oct. 2019 at 7:25 a.m., [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Warren,

That was the goal of the vibration to em site, as most vibration can be measured using a SS caliper and converted to mm or cm distances of standing waves. This takes you into another world where a machine can have added power by setting up a field between the machines frequency and the background field resonance using a mediator frequency. A tool of some kind that does not require sensitivity would be one of our main goals so people can begin to start understanding how to quantify this previously mystical energy form.
We have the basics for some of these, but they have been very touchy to date and as of yet producing very low voltages and currents. I developed a platform 1a, for sensitives to begin quantifying field bubble sizes generated from scalar coils, setting up self sustaining fields from the materials atomic level data.When we discover the correct methods and frequencies, then F gens can be used by anyone to set these fields up. A lot of experiment yet to go on all this to come to standardized formulas.
Diodes were the first level of creating em from the background field. We have two people now who had good results, so not just me, at tuning the diodes to start acting like small batteries with a constant current into a capacitor.
http://www.resonantfractals.org/V2EM/V2EM_Menu.html

An explanation here of exactly what a scalar cancelling coil can do. http://www.resonantfractals.org/Scalar_Coil/Fundamentals_Scalar_Coils.html
These need extremely small amounts of power to start releasing a lot of energy from the nuclear levels.They can set up fields and then take them down using 
A really neat observation of setting up a mass field from say a slug of bismuth, when you shut off the F gen the field bubble size doubles as it begins to draw it's energy from the background field. http://www.resonantfractals.org/V2EM/Platform_1a.html
We have been able to make fields that are now very small and safe to play with.

Vibration to EM experiment site:https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21myforums

Progress is slow with only a few experimenters.There are a great meany sensitives, but few seem to have a technical interest.Working with intuition is easier for quick projects, but I do not believe it will lead to powering devices we can engineer.
The goal is to provide a textbook, which can convey a comprehension, with formulas that work and can be verified by anyone. The platform 1a, is the beginning of using the F gens on small scalar coils with data that can do this consistently.
Never a dull moment anymore.The success with ciphering the nuclear cone shaped fields, and how to finally take them back down was a major breakthrough in power. Took me a full week to get that field back down, but now we know how.
If we were to develop the 89/50 method, we could use these small coils on a car engine, with F gens to set up the fields, and anyone could likely accomplish that without sensitivity. It finally reduces the set up to a set of numbers on an F gen for each layer of the field bubble. Then anyone could experience the inertial effects it produces with very little effort and very little hardware. We have yet to discover the limits of the scalar bismuth coils, but I believe they will be able to exceed my largest caliper and possibly take us very near a full levitation effect.
When you begin to think about motion as a field force, and realize you can measure it as a fractal, everything changes. Where in EM motors the E and M field are setting 90 degrees from the motion that actually has the power of the field inside it.
There is only one reality, to do the extraordinary things, we have to have a new base of mental modeling to match the reality.
Dave L

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