What is to become of us?

Hi DougHave you established a USA home and workshop yet?I understand the hassel, very well, of having stuff.What about a used mini container, as a workshop?
My stuff, a source of domestic discord, has turned out very much on the positive side of the ledger, after all is said, and done.It is what has made it possible to keep machinery running, things fixed, and barns built.Yes, my whole laboratory of free energy experiments has gone to the back burner, but they are still there, and valid.Now, with the expulsion by yahoo, something I have experienced for years now, where does the forum go?I value the ideas and criticism that the group brings to fragile concepts, as individually, we just don't have enough lifetime to do every experiment ourselves. To make the best progress it is better to collectively share information, and grow ideas into devices.How can this research progress?I have been doing this with individual projects, on occasion, but the out of the blue directions offered by members of the group are very refreshing, and useful.I hope your personal situation gets a nice solution, between here, and there.We sure do live in, as the Chinese curse goes "interesting times"Who knows how it will all resolve? I bet on those with good sense will prevail.Less than 50% are crazy(let's hope)Cheers Warren
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Doug  We can do a Facebook Group then anyone that wants to join can be vetted by the group leader ,I am sure there are other options but that would be the easy way out for nowSteve,


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Hi DougHave you established a USA home and workshop yet?I understand the hassel, very well, of having stuff.What about a used mini container, as a workshop?
My stuff, a source of domestic discord, has turned out very much on the positive side of the ledger, after all is said, and done.It is what has made it possible to keep machinery running, things fixed, and barns built.Yes, my whole laboratory of free energy experiments has gone to the back burner, but they are still there, and valid.Now, with the expulsion by yahoo, something I have experienced for years now, where does the forum go?I value the ideas and criticism that the group brings to fragile concepts, as individually, we just don't have enough lifetime to do every experiment ourselves. To make the best progress it is better to collectively share information, and grow ideas into devices.How can this research progress?I have been doing this with individual projects, on occasion, but the out of the blue directions offered by members of the group are very refreshing, and useful.I hope your personal situation gets a nice solution, between here, and there.We sure do live in, as the Chinese curse goes "interesting times"Who knows how it will all resolve? I bet on those with good sense will prevail.Less than 50% are crazy(let's hope)Cheers Warren
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SteveI am reluctant to use facebook, as I don't trust the security, and whether it turns my camera on, and off, when not supervised, when hacked.What other options exist?Cheers Warren

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  On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 9:15 a.m., [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Doug  We can do a Facebook Group then anyone that wants to join can be vetted by the group leader ,I am sure there are other options but that would be the easy way out for nowSteve,


-----Original Message-----
From: Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Oct 19, 2019 8:23 am
Subject: [EVGRAY] What is to become of us?

 

Hi DougHave you established a USA home and workshop yet?I understand the hassel, very well, of having stuff.What about a used mini container, as a workshop?
My stuff, a source of domestic discord, has turned out very much on the positive side of the ledger, after all is said, and done.It is what has made it possible to keep machinery running, things fixed, and barns built.Yes, my whole laboratory of free energy experiments has gone to the back burner, but they are still there, and valid.Now, with the expulsion by yahoo, something I have experienced for years now, where does the forum go?I value the ideas and criticism that the group brings to fragile concepts, as individually, we just don't have enough lifetime to do every experiment ourselves. To make the best progress it is better to collectively share information, and grow ideas into devices.How can this research progress?I have been doing this with individual projects, on occasion, but the out of the blue directions offered by members of the group are very refreshing, and useful.I hope your personal situation gets a nice solution, between here, and there.We sure do live in, as the Chinese curse goes "interesting times"Who knows how it will all resolve? I bet on those with good sense will prevail.Less than 50% are crazy(let's hope)Cheers Warren
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MarkWelcome to the group.I have missed your previous postings.I am sure Doug will include you, now that you have reminded him.I am no special authority, just a fellow member of this group, subject to occasional device building fits. Sometimes, some of them actually work.What would happen with a printed circuit board, containing a 1,000 Joule thieves, to raise the output of a signal?We know one Joule thief works. What about compounding them?What we need is pragmatic data to build ideas on each other's work. It is  form of Bucky Fuller's concept of synergy, where the whole is made up of compounded relatively weaker modules, to end up as a  stronger sum.Cheers Warren

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  On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 9:21 a.m., Mark Burke [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

whichever way you guys decide to go, be sure to add me as well. 
this group is a wealth of knowledge!
keep the chin up :)Mark

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:15 PM [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

     

Doug  We can do a Facebook Group then anyone that wants to join can be vetted by the group leader ,I am sure there are other options but that would be the easy way out for nowSteve,


-----Original Message-----
From: Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Oct 19, 2019 8:23 am
Subject: [EVGRAY] What is to become of us?

 

Hi DougHave you established a USA home and workshop yet?I understand the hassel, very well, of having stuff.What about a used mini container, as a workshop?
My stuff, a source of domestic discord, has turned out very much on the positive side of the ledger, after all is said, and done.It is what has made it possible to keep machinery running, things fixed, and barns built.Yes, my whole laboratory of free energy experiments has gone to the back burner, but they are still there, and valid.Now, with the expulsion by yahoo, something I have experienced for years now, where does the forum go?I value the ideas and criticism that the group brings to fragile concepts, as individually, we just don't have enough lifetime to do every experiment ourselves. To make the best progress it is better to collectively share information, and grow ideas into devices.How can this research progress?I have been doing this with individual projects, on occasion, but the out of the blue directions offered by members of the group are very refreshing, and useful.I hope your personal situation gets a nice solution, between here, and there.We sure do live in, as the Chinese curse goes "interesting times"Who knows how it will all resolve? I bet on those with good sense will prevail.Less than 50% are crazy(let's hope)Cheers Warren
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Warren 50% crazy speak for your self I'm 98% crazy and growing .I recently
picked up a eBook from the guy who popped in to the forum its on Amazon
he's been working on atmospheric electricity project and combines like five
different brake throughs  to up the returns he's projecting with several
systems 150 watts output day and night .looks interesting .are you done
with the winter prep yet ?.a stepping stone is needed. Till a finale
solution is found  why not Facebook .put some tape over your camera lens .

On Saturday, October 19, 2019, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Mark
> Welcome to the group.
> I have missed your previous postings.
> I am sure Doug will include you, now that you have reminded him.
> I am no special authority, just a fellow member of this group, subject to
> occasional device building fits. Sometimes, some of them actually work.
> What would happen with a printed circuit board, containing a 1,000 Joule
> thieves, to raise the output of a signal?
> We know one Joule thief works. What about compounding them?
> What we need is pragmatic data to build ideas on each other's work. It is
> form of Bucky Fuller's concept of synergy, where the whole is made up of
> compounded relatively weaker modules, to end up as a  stronger sum.
> Cheers Warren
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 9:21 a.m., Mark Burke [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> whichever way you guys decide to go, be sure to add me as well.
> this group is a wealth of knowledge!
> keep the chin up :)
> Mark
>
> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:15 PM [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Doug
>  We can do a Facebook Group then anyone that wants to join can be vetted
> by the group leader ,I am sure there are other options but that would be
> the easy way out for now
> Steve,
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]>
> To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sat, Oct 19, 2019 8:23 am
> Subject: [EVGRAY] What is to become of us?
>
>
>
> Hi Doug
> Have you established a USA home and workshop yet?
> I understand the hassel, very well, of having stuff.
> What about a used mini container, as a workshop?
> My stuff, a source of domestic discord, has turned out very much on the
> positive side of the ledger, after all is said, and done.
> It is what has made it possible to keep machinery running, things fixed,
> and barns built.
> Yes, my whole laboratory of free energy experiments has gone to the back
> burner, but they are still there, and valid.
> Now, with the expulsion by yahoo, something I have experienced for years
> now, where does the forum go?
> I value the ideas and criticism that the group brings to fragile concepts,
> as individually, we just don't have enough lifetime to do every experiment
> ourselves. To make the best progress it is better to collectively share
> information, and grow ideas into devices.
> How can this research progress?
> I have been doing this with individual projects, on occasion, but the out
> of the blue directions offered by members of the group are very refreshing,
> and useful.
> I hope your personal situation gets a nice solution, between here, and
> there.
> We sure do live in, as the Chinese curse goes "interesting times"
> Who knows how it will all resolve? I bet on those with good sense will
> prevail.
> Less than 50% are crazy(let's hope)
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>
> 
>

James, My 18 foot diameter, 36 foot high, heavy re-enforced concrete silo is at present, unemployed.
Joy from the sky?Hmmm? Sounds great.It would be nice to talk with someone who is actually doing it.I have been curious about it.Simple is elegant, no contest about it.I like simple builds.Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 11:26 a.m., James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Warren 50% crazy speak for your self I'm 98% crazy and growing .I recently picked up a eBook from the guy who popped in to the forum its on Amazon he's been working on atmospheric electricity project and combines like five different brake throughs  to up the returns he's projecting with several systems 150 watts output day and night .looks interesting .are you done with the winter prep yet ?.a stepping stone is needed. Till a finale solution is found  why not Facebook .put some tape over your camera lens .

On Saturday, October 19, 2019, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:


     
Mark
Welcome to the group.I have missed your previous postings.I am sure Doug will include you, now that you have reminded him.I am no special authority, just a fellow member of this group, subject to occasional device building fits. Sometimes, some of them actually work.What would happen with a printed circuit board, containing a 1,000 Joule thieves, to raise the output of a signal?We know one Joule thief works. What about compounding them?What we need is pragmatic data to build ideas on each other's work. It is  form of Bucky Fuller's concept of synergy, where the whole is made up of compounded relatively weaker modules, to end up as a  stronger sum.Cheers Warren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 9:21 a.m., Mark Burke [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

whichever way you guys decide to go, be sure to add me as well. 
this group is a wealth of knowledge!
keep the chin up :)Mark

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:15 PM [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

     

Doug  We can do a Facebook Group then anyone that wants to join can be vetted by the group leader ,I am sure there are other options but that would be the easy way out for nowSteve,


-----Original Message-----
From: Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Oct 19, 2019 8:23 am
Subject: [EVGRAY] What is to become of us?

 

Hi DougHave you established a USA home and workshop yet?I understand the hassel, very well, of having stuff.What about a used mini container, as a workshop?
My stuff, a source of domestic discord, has turned out very much on the positive side of the ledger, after all is said, and done.It is what has made it possible to keep machinery running, things fixed, and barns built.Yes, my whole laboratory of free energy experiments has gone to the back burner, but they are still there, and valid.Now, with the expulsion by yahoo, something I have experienced for years now, where does the forum go?I value the ideas and criticism that the group brings to fragile concepts, as individually, we just don't have enough lifetime to do every experiment ourselves. To make the best progress it is better to collectively share information, and grow ideas into devices.How can this research progress?I have been doing this with individual projects, on occasion, but the out of the blue directions offered by members of the group are very refreshing, and useful.I hope your personal situation gets a nice solution, between here, and there.We sure do live in, as the Chinese curse goes "interesting times"Who knows how it will all resolve? I bet on those with good sense will prevail.Less than 50% are crazy(let's hope)Cheers Warren
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JamesI use the camera more than my phone, documenting the build.
Cheers Warren
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  On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 11:26 a.m., James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Warren 50% crazy speak for your self I'm 98% crazy and growing .I recently picked up a eBook from the guy who popped in to the forum its on Amazon he's been working on atmospheric electricity project and combines like five different brake throughs  to up the returns he's projecting with several systems 150 watts output day and night .looks interesting .are you done with the winter prep yet ?.a stepping stone is needed. Till a finale solution is found  why not Facebook .put some tape over your camera lens .

On Saturday, October 19, 2019, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:


     
Mark
Welcome to the group.I have missed your previous postings.I am sure Doug will include you, now that you have reminded him.I am no special authority, just a fellow member of this group, subject to occasional device building fits. Sometimes, some of them actually work.What would happen with a printed circuit board, containing a 1,000 Joule thieves, to raise the output of a signal?We know one Joule thief works. What about compounding them?What we need is pragmatic data to build ideas on each other's work. It is  form of Bucky Fuller's concept of synergy, where the whole is made up of compounded relatively weaker modules, to end up as a  stronger sum.Cheers Warren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 9:21 a.m., Mark Burke [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

whichever way you guys decide to go, be sure to add me as well. 
this group is a wealth of knowledge!
keep the chin up :)Mark

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:15 PM [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

     

Doug  We can do a Facebook Group then anyone that wants to join can be vetted by the group leader ,I am sure there are other options but that would be the easy way out for nowSteve,


-----Original Message-----
From: Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Oct 19, 2019 8:23 am
Subject: [EVGRAY] What is to become of us?

 

Hi DougHave you established a USA home and workshop yet?I understand the hassel, very well, of having stuff.What about a used mini container, as a workshop?
My stuff, a source of domestic discord, has turned out very much on the positive side of the ledger, after all is said, and done.It is what has made it possible to keep machinery running, things fixed, and barns built.Yes, my whole laboratory of free energy experiments has gone to the back burner, but they are still there, and valid.Now, with the expulsion by yahoo, something I have experienced for years now, where does the forum go?I value the ideas and criticism that the group brings to fragile concepts, as individually, we just don't have enough lifetime to do every experiment ourselves. To make the best progress it is better to collectively share information, and grow ideas into devices.How can this research progress?I have been doing this with individual projects, on occasion, but the out of the blue directions offered by members of the group are very refreshing, and useful.I hope your personal situation gets a nice solution, between here, and there.We sure do live in, as the Chinese curse goes "interesting times"Who knows how it will all resolve? I bet on those with good sense will prevail.Less than 50% are crazy(let's hope)Cheers Warren
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Its 24/7/365 power   ...silent ..and looks fairly simple cheap .not like
the old systems .I've seen . .hate to say it but in the 60s the hippie's
found out that no one system did it all but if all were used it worked .

On Saturday, October 19, 2019, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> James
> I use the camera more than my phone, documenting the build.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 11:26 a.m., James Glinski [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Warren 50% crazy speak for your self I'm 98% crazy and growing .I recently
> picked up a eBook from the guy who popped in to the forum its on Amazon
> he's been working on atmospheric electricity project and combines like five
> different brake throughs  to up the returns he's projecting with several
> systems 150 watts output day and night .looks interesting .are you done
> with the winter prep yet ?.a stepping stone is needed. Till a finale
> solution is found  why not Facebook .put some tape over your camera lens .
>
> On Saturday, October 19, 2019, Warren Keillor
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Mark
> Welcome to the group.
> I have missed your previous postings.
> I am sure Doug will include you, now that you have reminded him.
> I am no special authority, just a fellow member of this group, subject to
> occasional device building fits. Sometimes, some of them actually work.
> What would happen with a printed circuit board, containing a 1,000 Joule
> thieves, to raise the output of a signal?
> We know one Joule thief works. What about compounding them?
> What we need is pragmatic data to build ideas on each other's work. It is
> form of Bucky Fuller's concept of synergy, where the whole is made up of
> compounded relatively weaker modules, to end up as a  stronger sum.
> Cheers Warren
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 9:21 a.m., Mark Burke [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> whichever way you guys decide to go, be sure to add me as well.
> this group is a wealth of knowledge!
> keep the chin up :)
> Mark
>
> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:15 PM [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Doug
>  We can do a Facebook Group then anyone that wants to join can be vetted
> by the group leader ,I am sure there are other options but that would be
> the easy way out for now
> Steve,
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]>
> To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sat, Oct 19, 2019 8:23 am
> Subject: [EVGRAY] What is to become of us?
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> Hi Doug
> Have you established a USA home and workshop yet?
> I understand the hassel, very well, of having stuff.
> What about a used mini container, as a workshop?
> My stuff, a source of domestic discord, has turned out very much on the
> positive side of the ledger, after all is said, and done.
> It is what has made it possible to keep machinery running, things fixed,
> and barns built.
> Yes, my whole laboratory of free energy experiments has gone to the back
> burner, but they are still there, and valid.
> Now, with the expulsion by yahoo, something I have experienced for years
> now, where does the forum go?
> I value the ideas and criticism that the group brings to fragile concepts,
> as individually, we just don't have enough lifetime to do every experiment
> ourselves. To make the best progress it is better to collectively share
> information, and grow ideas into devices.
> How can this research progress?
> I have been doing this with individual projects, on occasion, but the out
> of the blue directions offered by members of the group are very refreshing,
> and useful.
> I hope your personal situation gets a nice solution, between here, and
> there.
> We sure do live in, as the Chinese curse goes "interesting times"
> Who knows how it will all resolve? I bet on those with good sense will
> prevail.
> Less than 50% are crazy(let's hope)
> Cheers Warren
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    On Saturday, October 19, 2019, 10:34:37 a.m. MDT, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
Its 24/7/365 power   ...silent ..and looks fairly simple cheap .not like the old systems .I've seen . .hate to say it but in the 60s the hippie's found out that no one system did it all but if all were used it worked .

On Saturday, October 19, 2019, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:


     
James
I use the camera more than my phone, documenting the build.
Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 11:26 a.m., James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Warren 50% crazy speak for your self I'm 98% crazy and growing .I recently picked up a eBook from the guy who popped in to the forum its on Amazon he's been working on atmospheric electricity project and combines like five different brake throughs  to up the returns he's projecting with several systems 150 watts output day and night .looks interesting .are you done with the winter prep yet ?.a stepping stone is needed. Till a finale solution is found  why not Facebook .put some tape over your camera lens .

On Saturday, October 19, 2019, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:


     
Mark
Welcome to the group.I have missed your previous postings.I am sure Doug will include you, now that you have reminded him.I am no special authority, just a fellow member of this group, subject to occasional device building fits. Sometimes, some of them actually work.What would happen with a printed circuit board, containing a 1,000 Joule thieves, to raise the output of a signal?We know one Joule thief works. What about compounding them?What we need is pragmatic data to build ideas on each other's work. It is  form of Bucky Fuller's concept of synergy, where the whole is made up of compounded relatively weaker modules, to end up as a  stronger sum.Cheers Warren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 9:21 a.m., Mark Burke [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

whichever way you guys decide to go, be sure to add me as well. 
this group is a wealth of knowledge!
keep the chin up :)Mark

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:15 PM [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

     

Doug  We can do a Facebook Group then anyone that wants to join can be vetted by the group leader ,I am sure there are other options but that would be the easy way out for nowSteve,


-----Original Message-----
From: Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Oct 19, 2019 8:23 am
Subject: [EVGRAY] What is to become of us?

 

Hi DougHave you established a USA home and workshop yet?I understand the hassel, very well, of having stuff.What about a used mini container, as a workshop?
My stuff, a source of domestic discord, has turned out very much on the positive side of the ledger, after all is said, and done.It is what has made it possible to keep machinery running, things fixed, and barns built.Yes, my whole laboratory of free energy experiments has gone to the back burner, but they are still there, and valid.Now, with the expulsion by yahoo, something I have experienced for years now, where does the forum go?I value the ideas and criticism that the group brings to fragile concepts, as individually, we just don't have enough lifetime to do every experiment ourselves. To make the best progress it is better to collectively share information, and grow ideas into devices.How can this research progress?I have been doing this with individual projects, on occasion, but the out of the blue directions offered by members of the group are very refreshing, and useful.I hope your personal situation gets a nice solution, between here, and there.We sure do live in, as the Chinese curse goes "interesting times"Who knows how it will all resolve? I bet on those with good sense will prevail.Less than 50% are crazy(let's hope)Cheers Warren
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Now James,Do you have any support documents that a builder might follow with some reasonable chance of success? The best working example might be good.Too often I seem to just find theoretical drawings, that the artist has only conceived of.The challenge is that gap between concept, and reality, that we all struggle with, making stuff.If it is simple enough for someone like me to make, then I can show others how to do it too!Cheers Warren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 12:34 p.m., James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Its 24/7/365 power   ...silent ..and looks fairly simple cheap .not like the old systems .I've seen . .hate to say it but in the 60s the hippie's found out that no one system did it all but if all were used it worked .

On Saturday, October 19, 2019, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:


     
James
I use the camera more than my phone, documenting the build.
Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 11:26 a.m., James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Warren 50% crazy speak for your self I'm 98% crazy and growing .I recently picked up a eBook from the guy who popped in to the forum its on Amazon he's been working on atmospheric electricity project and combines like five different brake throughs  to up the returns he's projecting with several systems 150 watts output day and night .looks interesting .are you done with the winter prep yet ?.a stepping stone is needed. Till a finale solution is found  why not Facebook .put some tape over your camera lens .

On Saturday, October 19, 2019, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:


     
Mark
Welcome to the group.I have missed your previous postings.I am sure Doug will include you, now that you have reminded him.I am no special authority, just a fellow member of this group, subject to occasional device building fits. Sometimes, some of them actually work.What would happen with a printed circuit board, containing a 1,000 Joule thieves, to raise the output of a signal?We know one Joule thief works. What about compounding them?What we need is pragmatic data to build ideas on each other's work. It is  form of Bucky Fuller's concept of synergy, where the whole is made up of compounded relatively weaker modules, to end up as a  stronger sum.Cheers Warren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 9:21 a.m., Mark Burke [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

whichever way you guys decide to go, be sure to add me as well. 
this group is a wealth of knowledge!
keep the chin up :)Mark

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:15 PM [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

     

Doug  We can do a Facebook Group then anyone that wants to join can be vetted by the group leader ,I am sure there are other options but that would be the easy way out for nowSteve,


-----Original Message-----
From: Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Oct 19, 2019 8:23 am
Subject: [EVGRAY] What is to become of us?

 

Hi DougHave you established a USA home and workshop yet?I understand the hassel, very well, of having stuff.What about a used mini container, as a workshop?
My stuff, a source of domestic discord, has turned out very much on the positive side of the ledger, after all is said, and done.It is what has made it possible to keep machinery running, things fixed, and barns built.Yes, my whole laboratory of free energy experiments has gone to the back burner, but they are still there, and valid.Now, with the expulsion by yahoo, something I have experienced for years now, where does the forum go?I value the ideas and criticism that the group brings to fragile concepts, as individually, we just don't have enough lifetime to do every experiment ourselves. To make the best progress it is better to collectively share information, and grow ideas into devices.How can this research progress?I have been doing this with individual projects, on occasion, but the out of the blue directions offered by members of the group are very refreshing, and useful.I hope your personal situation gets a nice solution, between here, and there.We sure do live in, as the Chinese curse goes "interesting times"Who knows how it will all resolve? I bet on those with good sense will prevail.Less than 50% are crazy(let's hope)Cheers Warren
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Well warren in his book he used a chain of forum successes a add on to a
add on he pulled work from the net and incorporated it into the total
design .so at the end its a  work of up grade's over a ten year time .one
thing that gets me is the antenna he uses is like 35 ft long coax .an thats
pretty short compared to old work in this area .bedini used  like 200 ft at
30 ft .so there may be an upgrade not done yet and being a coax cable it
could be slightly melted in a oven and cooled under hi voltage to make a oh
hell I'm mental blocked here its like a wax melted and cooled retaining its
charge .those have been done with much power especially in the winter with
the wind blowing .here's some names he's using there ideas and building on
them he calls it Lego building ..jonnydavro and his reverse joule thief..
Then lasersaber and his idea of super Joule ringer 3.0 then john bedini and
his work with back emf and cold energy and the alum battery . then
RFNREYNDERS AKA RENE WITH MIXING HOT AND COLD ELECTRICITY FOR BATTERY
CHARING .then gadget all with his work of charging a super cap and being
able to recharge the source battery while heating water and lighting a led
!.then a guy named sucahyo with is work of the stingo circuit  then teslas
work with atmospheric electricity  thats some of the names and works that
he incorporated into the final resins .he uses the three batter idea of
bedini in this like the battery swapping but no swapping ..so in the end he
has a new unit not a copy of others but something new .he says he's an
engineer by trade .but it looks cheap very few parts battery's coils some
diodes ect..until you try you just won't know what's what .he's open
sourced it.

On Saturday, October 19, 2019, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Now James,
> Do you have any support documents that a builder might follow with some
> reasonable chance of success? The best working example might be good.
> Too often I seem to just find theoretical drawings, that the artist has
> only conceived of.
> The challenge is that gap between concept, and reality, that we all
> struggle with, making stuff.
> If it is simple enough for someone like me to make, then I can show others
> how to do it too!
> Cheers Warren
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 12:34 p.m., James Glinski [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Its 24/7/365 power   ...silent ..and looks fairly simple cheap .not like
> the old systems .I've seen . .hate to say it but in the 60s the hippie's
> found out that no one system did it all but if all were used it worked .
>
> On Saturday, October 19, 2019, Warren Keillor
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> James
> I use the camera more than my phone, documenting the build.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 11:26 a.m., James Glinski [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Warren 50% crazy speak for your self I'm 98% crazy and growing .I recently
> picked up a eBook from the guy who popped in to the forum its on Amazon
> he's been working on atmospheric electricity project and combines like five
> different brake throughs  to up the returns he's projecting with several
> systems 150 watts output day and night .looks interesting .are you done
> with the winter prep yet ?.a stepping stone is needed. Till a finale
> solution is found  why not Facebook .put some tape over your camera lens .
>
> On Saturday, October 19, 2019, Warren Keillor
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Mark
> Welcome to the group.
> I have missed your previous postings.
> I am sure Doug will include you, now that you have reminded him.
> I am no special authority, just a fellow member of this group, subject to
> occasional device building fits. Sometimes, some of them actually work.
> What would happen with a printed circuit board, containing a 1,000 Joule
> thieves, to raise the output of a signal?
> We know one Joule thief works. What about compounding them?
> What we need is pragmatic data to build ideas on each other's work. It is
> form of Bucky Fuller's concept of synergy, where the whole is made up of
> compounded relatively weaker modules, to end up as a  stronger sum.
> Cheers Warren
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 9:21 a.m., Mark Burke [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> whichever way you guys decide to go, be sure to add me as well.
> this group is a wealth of knowledge!
> keep the chin up :)
> Mark
>
> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:15 PM [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Doug
>  We can do a Facebook Group then anyone that wants to join can be vetted
> by the group leader ,I am sure there are other options but that would be
> the easy way out for now
> Steve,
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]>
> To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sat, Oct 19, 2019 8:23 am
> Subject: [EVGRAY] What is to become of us?
>
>
>
> Hi Doug
> Have you established a USA home and workshop yet?
> I understand the hassel, very well, of having stuff.
> What about a used mini container, as a workshop?
> My stuff, a source of domestic discord, has turned out very much on the
> positive side of the ledger, after all is said, and done.
> It is what has made it possible to keep machinery running, things fixed,
> and barns built.
> Yes, my whole laboratory of free energy experiments has gone to the back
> burner, but they are still there, and valid.
> Now, with the expulsion by yahoo, something I have experienced for years
> now, where does the forum go?
> I value the ideas and criticism that the group brings to fragile concepts,
> as individually, we just don't have enough lifetime to do every experiment
> ourselves. To make the best progress it is better to collectively share
> information, and grow ideas into devices.
> How can this research progress?
> I have been doing this with individual projects, on occasion, but the out
> of the blue directions offered by members of the group are very refreshing,
> and useful.
> I hope your personal situation gets a nice solution, between here, and
> there.
> We sure do live in, as the Chinese curse goes "interesting times"
> Who knows how it will all resolve? I bet on those with good sense will
> prevail.
> Less than 50% are crazy(let's hope)
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>
> 
>

Its a ten dollar book on Amazon called off the grid. Mario veloso .

On Saturday, October 19, 2019, James Glinski <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well warren in his book he used a chain of forum successes a add on to a
> add on he pulled work from the net and incorporated it into the total
> design .so at the end its a  work of up grade's over a ten year time .one
> thing that gets me is the antenna he uses is like 35 ft long coax .an thats
> pretty short compared to old work in this area .bedini used  like 200 ft at
> 30 ft .so there may be an upgrade not done yet and being a coax cable it
> could be slightly melted in a oven and cooled under hi voltage to make a oh
> hell I'm mental blocked here its like a wax melted and cooled retaining its
> charge .those have been done with much power especially in the winter with
> the wind blowing .here's some names he's using there ideas and building on
> them he calls it Lego building ..jonnydavro and his reverse joule thief..
> Then lasersaber and his idea of super Joule ringer 3.0 then john bedini and
> his work with back emf and cold energy and the alum battery . then
> RFNREYNDERS AKA RENE WITH MIXING HOT AND COLD ELECTRICITY FOR BATTERY
> CHARING .then gadget all with his work of charging a super cap and being
> able to recharge the source battery while heating water and lighting a led
> !.then a guy named sucahyo with is work of the stingo circuit  then teslas
> work with atmospheric electricity  thats some of the names and works that
> he incorporated into the final resins .he uses the three batter idea of
> bedini in this like the battery swapping but no swapping ..so in the end he
> has a new unit not a copy of others but something new .he says he's an
> engineer by trade .but it looks cheap very few parts battery's coils some
> diodes ect..until you try you just won't know what's what .he's open
> sourced it.
>
> On Saturday, October 19, 2019, Warren Keillor
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Now James,
>> Do you have any support documents that a builder might follow with some
>> reasonable chance of success? The best working example might be good.
>> Too often I seem to just find theoretical drawings, that the artist has
>> only conceived of.
>> The challenge is that gap between concept, and reality, that we all
>> struggle with, making stuff.
>> If it is simple enough for someone like me to make, then I can show
>> others how to do it too!
>> Cheers Warren
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>> On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 12:34 p.m., James Glinski [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Its 24/7/365 power   ...silent ..and looks fairly simple cheap .not like
>> the old systems .I've seen . .hate to say it but in the 60s the hippie's
>> found out that no one system did it all but if all were used it worked .
>>
>> On Saturday, October 19, 2019, Warren Keillor
>> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> James
>> I use the camera more than my phone, documenting the build.
>> Cheers Warren
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>> On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 11:26 a.m., James Glinski [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Warren 50% crazy speak for your self I'm 98% crazy and growing .I
>> recently picked up a eBook from the guy who popped in to the forum its on
>> Amazon he's been working on atmospheric electricity project and combines
>> like five different brake throughs  to up the returns he's projecting with
>> several systems 150 watts output day and night .looks interesting .are you
>> done with the winter prep yet ?.a stepping stone is needed. Till a finale
>> solution is found  why not Facebook .put some tape over your camera lens .
>>
>> On Saturday, October 19, 2019, Warren Keillor
>> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>> Welcome to the group.
>> I have missed your previous postings.
>> I am sure Doug will include you, now that you have reminded him.
>> I am no special authority, just a fellow member of this group, subject to
>> occasional device building fits. Sometimes, some of them actually work.
>> What would happen with a printed circuit board, containing a 1,000 Joule
>> thieves, to raise the output of a signal?
>> We know one Joule thief works. What about compounding them?
>> What we need is pragmatic data to build ideas on each other's work. It
>> is  form of Bucky Fuller's concept of synergy, where the whole is made up
>> of compounded relatively weaker modules, to end up as a  stronger sum.
>> Cheers Warren
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>> On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 9:21 a.m., Mark Burke [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> whichever way you guys decide to go, be sure to add me as well.
>> this group is a wealth of knowledge!
>> keep the chin up :)
>> Mark
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:15 PM [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Doug
>>  We can do a Facebook Group then anyone that wants to join can be vetted
>> by the group leader ,I am sure there are other options but that would be
>> the easy way out for now
>> Steve,
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
>> [email protected]>
>> To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sat, Oct 19, 2019 8:23 am
>> Subject: [EVGRAY] What is to become of us?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Doug
>> Have you established a USA home and workshop yet?
>> I understand the hassel, very well, of having stuff.
>> What about a used mini container, as a workshop?
>> My stuff, a source of domestic discord, has turned out very much on the
>> positive side of the ledger, after all is said, and done.
>> It is what has made it possible to keep machinery running, things fixed,
>> and barns built.
>> Yes, my whole laboratory of free energy experiments has gone to the back
>> burner, but they are still there, and valid.
>> Now, with the expulsion by yahoo, something I have experienced for years
>> now, where does the forum go?
>> I value the ideas and criticism that the group brings to fragile
>> concepts, as individually, we just don't have enough lifetime to do every
>> experiment ourselves. To make the best progress it is better to
>> collectively share information, and grow ideas into devices.
>> How can this research progress?
>> I have been doing this with individual projects, on occasion, but the out
>> of the blue directions offered by members of the group are very refreshing,
>> and useful.
>> I hope your personal situation gets a nice solution, between here, and
>> there.
>> We sure do live in, as the Chinese curse goes "interesting times"
>> Who knows how it will all resolve? I bet on those with good sense will
>> prevail.
>> Less than 50% are crazy(let's hope)
>> Cheers Warren
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>

whichever way you guys decide to go, be sure to add me as well.
this group is a wealth of knowledge!
keep the chin up :)
Mark

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:15 PM [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Doug
>  We can do a Facebook Group then anyone that wants to join can be vetted
> by the group leader ,I am sure there are other options but that would be
> the easy way out for now
> Steve,
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]>
> To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sat, Oct 19, 2019 8:23 am
> Subject: [EVGRAY] What is to become of us?
>
>
>
> Hi Doug
> Have you established a USA home and workshop yet?
> I understand the hassel, very well, of having stuff.
> What about a used mini container, as a workshop?
> My stuff, a source of domestic discord, has turned out very much on the
> positive side of the ledger, after all is said, and done.
> It is what has made it possible to keep machinery running, things fixed,
> and barns built.
> Yes, my whole laboratory of free energy experiments has gone to the back
> burner, but they are still there, and valid.
> Now, with the expulsion by yahoo, something I have experienced for years
> now, where does the forum go?
> I value the ideas and criticism that the group brings to fragile concepts,
> as individually, we just don't have enough lifetime to do every experiment
> ourselves. To make the best progress it is better to collectively share
> information, and grow ideas into devices.
> How can this research progress?
> I have been doing this with individual projects, on occasion, but the out
> of the blue directions offered by members of the group are very refreshing,
> and useful.
> I hope your personal situation gets a nice solution, between here, and
> there.
> We sure do live in, as the Chinese curse goes "interesting times"
> Who knows how it will all resolve? I bet on those with good sense will
> prevail.
> Less than 50% are crazy(let's hope)
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>
> 
>

Till a finale solution is found  why not Facebook .put some tape over your camera lens .

 

 Gasp... why not write directly to the CIA/FBI?
 

 Ron

RonI once invented a plastic explosives detector, the size of a TV channel changer. I offered it to the RCMP back in the seventies, they didn't even bother to get back to me.No one had ever heard of terrorist bombers before then, so there was no need for such nonsense.Timing, the release, and the need, are everything, with an emerging technology.
There is no better time , then now, to come up with free energy devices.Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sun., 20 Oct. 2019 at 11:06 a.m., [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


 Till a finale solution is found  why not Facebook .put some tape over your camera lens .

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Agreed - if someone could put all data together, make all stronger!

I havent been posting since a long time,
My RD shop and tools were wiped out in the Philippines Super typhoon
Yolanda, 8 nov 2013,
since then have only dabbled on small devices with not enough time as I
still work.
you fellas are a little bit above me on electronics, but i try to keep up.

You fellas still look at PJKbook info?
If I can help you in any way let me know.
Helicopter pilot by trade but dabble in many things.
I have just found Telegram when i joined a precious metals mining stock
group on there, it can be private chat and I do believe its secure if you
so choose.
If you want more info ill look into it for you.
Cheers,

Mark Burke
If you w


On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:54 PM Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Mark
> Welcome to the group.
> I have missed your previous postings.
> I am sure Doug will include you, now that you have reminded him.
> I am no special authority, just a fellow member of this group, subject to
> occasional device building fits. Sometimes, some of them actually work.
> What would happen with a printed circuit board, containing a 1,000 Joule
> thieves, to raise the output of a signal?
> We know one Joule thief works. What about compounding them?
> What we need is pragmatic data to build ideas on each other's work. It is
> form of Bucky Fuller's concept of synergy, where the whole is made up of
> compounded relatively weaker modules, to end up as a  stronger sum.
> Cheers Warren
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Sat., 19 Oct. 2019 at 9:21 a.m., Mark Burke [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> whichever way you guys decide to go, be sure to add me as well.
> this group is a wealth of knowledge!
> keep the chin up :)
> Mark
>
> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:15 PM [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Doug
>  We can do a Facebook Group then anyone that wants to join can be vetted
> by the group leader ,I am sure there are other options but that would be
> the easy way out for now
> Steve,
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]>
> To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sat, Oct 19, 2019 8:23 am
> Subject: [EVGRAY] What is to become of us?
>
>
>
> Hi Doug
> Have you established a USA home and workshop yet?
> I understand the hassel, very well, of having stuff.
> What about a used mini container, as a workshop?
> My stuff, a source of domestic discord, has turned out very much on the
> positive side of the ledger, after all is said, and done.
> It is what has made it possible to keep machinery running, things fixed,
> and barns built.
> Yes, my whole laboratory of free energy experiments has gone to the back
> burner, but they are still there, and valid.
> Now, with the expulsion by yahoo, something I have experienced for years
> now, where does the forum go?
> I value the ideas and criticism that the group brings to fragile concepts,
> as individually, we just don't have enough lifetime to do every experiment
> ourselves. To make the best progress it is better to collectively share
> information, and grow ideas into devices.
> How can this research progress?
> I have been doing this with individual projects, on occasion, but the out
> of the blue directions offered by members of the group are very refreshing,
> and useful.
> I hope your personal situation gets a nice solution, between here, and
> there.
> We sure do live in, as the Chinese curse goes "interesting times"
> Who knows how it will all resolve? I bet on those with good sense will
> prevail.
> Less than 50% are crazy(let's hope)
> Cheers Warren
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>
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>

there are a lot of free energy group in facebook.

 

 The problem with facebook group is it is very hard to find old posting. it is almost impossible to search information. It is not suitable for a group that has very frequent comment like this group.
 

 Other than facebook, maybe a free hosted forum, for example proboards.com, which allow attachment.
 

 But I thought yahoo groups only prevent uploading content? why mention closing?

"The problem with facebook group is it is very hard to find old posting. "
 

 This site will be loosing its online support for doing searches of the archived posts. The "Conversations" page will be shut down, and the archive lost, if I read this correctly, by October 28. That is where you could scan for a subject or a word through all the posts in the archive back to day one, or get a listing of all your own posts.
 

 All you will have left is what is in your personal email, and ability to send emails and receive them.
 

 This site has over 113,000 posts archived, and right now we can do searches on them from the Conversations tab page online, or the search my groups function. This makes it a great resource of information, as the complete history is still present.
 

 You can put in a request for a download of the archive now, but after the 28th it may be gone.
 I am still waiting for a response, but have my request in for the awaken_to_vibration site archive.
 13,000 posts in that one, Even after I get the file, scanning or searching it would be another issue.
 The content may be functionally lost.
 

 You can use the privacy dashboard to request an archive download.
 https://www.verizonmedia.com/policies/us/en/verizonmedia/privacy/dashboard/index.html https://www.verizonmedia.com/policies/us/en/verizonmedia/privacy/dashboard/index.html

 

 Click on Yahoo, you will go to your selections page, go to the bottom of the page where you will see two URLs
 

 Request a Download  |  Your Download Requests
 

 Dave L

Maybe you can do searches but I've been outed by there rules for years .and
I'm thinking only some kind of inexpensive site might be best .you make the
rules and have storage to boot .removing yahoo bs.
On Monday, October 21, 2019, Mark Burke [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> FB is so controlled.
> they can turn you off in a second for no reason, stay away from FB
> Talk about non secure, everything we discuss and post on FB will go
> directly to the agencies data bases, when the algorithms pick up on
> something like free energy or COP > 100 or whatever, they can come in and
> do whatever.
> Men in black soon to follow.
> Must not forget all the good inventors that died very questionable deaths
> and all their work was dissapeared.
> Agreed, need to put the inventions out to the masses of inventors so they
> wont die. To heck with the copyrights,
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 4:20 PM [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "The problem with facebook group is it is very hard to find old posting. "
>>
>> This site will be loosing its online support for doing searches of the
>> archived posts. The "Conversations" page will be shut down, and the archive
>> lost, if I read this correctly, by October 28. That is where you could scan
>> for a subject or a word through all the posts in the archive back to day
>> one, or get a listing of all your own posts.
>>
>> All you will have left is what is in your personal email, and ability to
>> send emails and receive them.
>>
>> This site has over 113,000 posts archived, and right now we can do
>> searches on them from the Conversations tab page online, or the search my
>> groups function. This makes it a great resource of information, as the
>> complete history is still present.
>>
>> You can put in a request for a download of the archive now, but after the
>> 28th it may be gone.
>> I am still waiting for a response, but have my request in for the
>> awaken_to_vibration site archive.
>> 13,000 posts in that one, Even after I get the file, scanning or
>> searching it would be another issue.
>> The content may be functionally lost.
>>
>> You can use the privacy dashboard to request an archive download.
>> https://www.verizonmedia.com/policies/us/en/verizonmedia/
>> privacy/dashboard/index.html
>>
>> Click on Yahoo, you will go to your selections page, go to the bottom of
>> the page where you will see two URLs
>>
>> Request a Download  |  Your Download Requests
>>
>> Dave L
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>

FB is so controlled.
they can turn you off in a second for no reason, stay away from FB
Talk about non secure, everything we discuss and post on FB will go
directly to the agencies data bases, when the algorithms pick up on
something like free energy or COP > 100 or whatever, they can come in and
do whatever.
Men in black soon to follow.
Must not forget all the good inventors that died very questionable deaths
and all their work was dissapeared.
Agreed, need to put the inventions out to the masses of inventors so they
wont die. To heck with the copyrights,


On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 4:20 PM [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> "The problem with facebook group is it is very hard to find old posting. "
>
> This site will be loosing its online support for doing searches of the
> archived posts. The "Conversations" page will be shut down, and the archive
> lost, if I read this correctly, by October 28. That is where you could scan
> for a subject or a word through all the posts in the archive back to day
> one, or get a listing of all your own posts.
>
> All you will have left is what is in your personal email, and ability to
> send emails and receive them.
>
> This site has over 113,000 posts archived, and right now we can do
> searches on them from the Conversations tab page online, or the search my
> groups function. This makes it a great resource of information, as the
> complete history is still present.
>
> You can put in a request for a download of the archive now, but after the
> 28th it may be gone.
> I am still waiting for a response, but have my request in for the
> awaken_to_vibration site archive.
> 13,000 posts in that one, Even after I get the file, scanning or searching
> it would be another issue.
> The content may be functionally lost.
>
> You can use the privacy dashboard to request an archive download.
>
> https://www.verizonmedia.com/policies/us/en/verizonmedia/privacy/dashboard/index.html
>
> Click on Yahoo, you will go to your selections page, go to the bottom of
> the page where you will see two URLs
>
> Request a Download  |  Your Download Requests
>
> Dave L
>
>
>
> 
>