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The big question then is which component(s) is/are delivering the excess
energy? My thinking its isotope flipping of some of the copper or the gas
in the tube ..this happens above 100 volts and I think this is running over
twice that ?.of coarse I could be wrong .I'll blame it on the wine .

On Saturday, August 17, 2019, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> C3 must charge L to saturation at start up , if L tested is OU coil
> "whatever" in will return C3 charge to exceed initial potential but will be
> dissipated regulated by the tube itself and will flash perpetually
> as long as the parts remain operational  reverse diode must be 1KV fast
> switching , capacitor OIL with value required to set L to saturation as is
> fired by the scr switcher igniter TR capacitor  ,
>
> Notice:
> This info is not for paper or patenting © Ark Research 1988.2019
> If experimenter coil is OU it will Operate with this test device
> PERPETUALY .... all else is pure bullshit !
>
> calculate gain & remove partial extra energy for whatever application
> required without killing the effect  ,,
>
> that's all, with it all supposedly OU coil devices can be tested .
>
> (H)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :
>
> Analysis of the output part of the circuit
>
> When activating SW1 the discharge tube U1 fires and discharges the
> capacitor C3 into the coil L. The voltage across the then parallel L-C3
> tank then declines in a sine curve way from its peak value. The current in
> the tank increases as a sine curve starting from zero. When the voltage
> crosses zero the discharge tube turns off and the current has then reached
> its peak level. As the current is turned off the voltage flies back going
> negative as the coil turns into a source discharging its stored energy. The
> current then declines in a sinusoidal way from its peak value while the
> flyback voltage also goes negative as a sine curve reaching its negative
> peak value when the current passes zero. But the negative going spike
> either will reach the reverse breakdown voltage of the diode across the
> discharge tube or the breakdown voltage of the tube itself. This will again
> complete the circuit of the L-C3 tank which charges C3 in the reverse
> direction. When C3 has reached its negative peak voltage as the current
> passes zero it then starts discharging through the diode in the diode's
> forward conduction direction with the current then being negative. As the
> current reaches its negative peak the voltage across the tank passes zero
> and again starts to charge the capacitor to a positive value. The current
> then declines towards zero from its negative value at which the voltage
> reaches its positive peak value.
>
> If there is free energy from the circuit the voltage across the capacitor
> after this completed cycle must be greater than the initial voltage of the
> cycle. The big question then is which component(s) is/are delivering the
> excess energy? The discharge tube and the diode as well as the LC-tank are
> probably all critical components. Also the wires of this part of the
> circuit could be critical. The negative flyback spike could be destructive
> as it reaches the breakdown voltage of something if the coil doesn't have
> enough parasitic capacitance to limit any breakdown of the other
> components. If it is the diode that goes into avalanche breakdown this
> could happen very fast like in nanoseconds. Be careful if trying to measure
> such spikes as the instruments could be damaged even before registering the
> event. If the diode breaks down at 1kV the device measuring this must be
> able to handle this voltage even if it isn't fast enough to actually see
> such a spike. The voltage could even be transformed up or down by loops
> formed. This is very radiant energy.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <arkresearch@...> wrote :
>
> The captain in florida  was the first to replicate ,  as told he went to
> create his own liturgy & religion  but fact is fact if it is OU coilbanger
> will drive it !
>
> if not it will fart blood & die !
>
> as  told a million times coilbanger is a test tool !
>
>
> (H)
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :
>
> This is why I'm looking at other alternatives .my thinking is a closed
> system is just recycling old energy a type of circular logic .in every case
> where ou is really there it seems to be isotope flipping involved
> .tests.gray.the Swiss wheel.Newman need to take a hard look at this .easy
> testing filling caps and timing . hector your coil banger if no one can
> replicate it its like its not there .
>
> On Friday, August 16, 2019, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> There are hundreds of claims this coil is ou! my kitchen sink with 2,000
> turns of cuadrafillar wire is oU . my boat anchor with 2 turns of #4
> welding cable turns is OU ! , kapednadze, John smith , Newman , well I
> designed the coilbanger to specifically  excite a coil and harvest its CEMF
> pulse back to the same capacitor and if it does not have ou it will simply
> fart & dia after a few cycles !
>
> don smith circuit is NOT ou !  a Newman coil properly oriented to a magnet
> IS OU, MRA circuit coilbanged to its specifics IS OU !  MEG coilbanged in
> parallel and CEMF in series is OU
>
> things i have TOLD a million times, an OU circuit requires an specific
> Joule potential to SATURATE in order to obtain gain !
>
> Norman has taught a billion times about "neutral spike" tailor a
> coilbanger to produce a NEUTRAL spike within a NORMAL transformer and you
> are in for the trip !
>
> One potential to excite one frequency . another to collect the spike , and
> yes it is OU, the reason i don't give values is evident with 10%
> tolerances  in actual electronic components  you cant work
> at .003 tolerance were a wire length of one forth of a turn can mess your
> day ..
>
> now do i need 3 days for the post to be ejaculated into the forum from
> Yahoo ballsack !?
>
> maybe !
>
> (H)
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :
>
> Hector
> Your coil banger has driven me crazy trying to make it go. I bought two
> exact units as you described.
> I am not disputing that you got it to go, but you present it more as a
> puzzle to be solved, which I suppose, no doubt, it really, and truly is, in
> some senses, but nuts, and bolts, hands on advice, are in short supply.
> The concept needs to be generally known, and it needs to be in many hands,
> so it gets generally adopted.
> You are conflicted about this, as it pisses you off that sleazy gits take
> your work and run with it, getting rich.
> I think the worse part, is that they take authorship, which is wrong, and
> grossly unfair, if not fraudulent.
> In my own experience, I have found one rarely gets fame, and fortune, as a
> combined package.
> You get one, or the other, but not both. You must decide. Thet both have
> benefits, and deterrents.
> I am retired, whatever that means. I guess I have decided that I am not
> racing other rats through the maze.
> As surviving members of society, we have a certain obligation to future
> generations, as teachers, and, God forbid, sources of wisdom, and good
> advice.
> Now, coil bangers need to be made. Every kid should have one by next
> Christmas, as a plastic bag full of parts, a kit for all ages.
> You need perfect fool proof instructions, that are tested with several
> groups of school kids, and found to work.
> This is a project.
> It is totally worth doing.
> It is work.
> It will cost money to supply the little baggies of parts.
> You have make one and show it to science teachers or "shop" teachers (if
> they even have such things now.)
> Failing this method, you hire a marketing research firm, and this is what
> they will do, when contracted by the advertising agency, you have also
> hired.
> Ka-ching,ka-ching! Then packaging, then bundling it with other "science"
> toys.
> Yes, you can make a shit load of money, eventually.
> Is that exactly what you wish to do, and need now in your life, because it
> is a job, and a full time one at that?
> It is your choice, but getting this flailing group of geeks to actually
> make a coil banger work is not a bad idea.
> If enough of us get them happening, with some success, the general
> honesty, and interest of the group will help refine the idea in ways none
> of us might expect.
> There is no dispute that you are the author.
> Now you have to make it work!
> To do that it needs to be replicated with success.
> Your fame will be earned.
> It takes, time, work, and energy, to make money, and sometimes you don't.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Fri., 16 Aug. 2019 at 6:57 a.m., arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> You know how many times i posted about the coilbanger ? years explaining
> it and the only guy who made it work went to do his own religion based on
> it .......may a chicken give him a blow job !
>
> 
>

I know its the relay version of self coilbanging circuit , i posted about telephone companys using it in their relay networks ( old ancient switching arrays ) 52 volts DC . 

(H)

OleThank you for the careful trail of crumbs, walking us through the theory.Well thought out questions.Have you had the opportunity to actually study this device in practice?In my old studio, Toronto, I kept a garbage bag of dead multimeters, as testimony of my investigations, exploring that, which I didn't understand was there, before the fateful zap.How very ignorant, and primitive we are, like slithering dinosaurs, trying to crawl out of the swamp, on to dry land.We don't understand this energy, and the set of rules it plays by.It is by examining it, while it is exhibiting itself to our perception, that we begin to find reliable ways make it manifest itself, yet again, and see what it can do.Ole, you are a good man to have with us on this quest.Thank you for your analytical thoughts.Cheers Warren

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  On Fri., 16 Aug. 2019 at 8:21 p.m., [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Analysis of the output part of the circuit

When activating SW1 the discharge tube U1 fires and discharges the capacitor C3 into the coil L. The voltage across the then parallel L-C3 tank then declines in a sine curve way from its peak value. The current in the tank increases as a sine curve starting from zero. When the voltage crosses zero the discharge tube turns off and the current has then reached its peak level. As the current is turned off the voltage flies back going negative as the coil turns into a source discharging its stored energy. The current then declines in a sinusoidal way from its peak value while the flyback voltage also goes negative as a sine curve reaching its negative peak value when the current passes zero. But the negative going spike either will reach the reverse breakdown voltage of the diode across the discharge tube or the breakdown voltage of the tube itself. This will again complete the circuit of the L-C3 tank which charges C3 in the reverse direction. When C3 has reached its negative peak voltage as the current passes zero it then starts discharging through the diode in the diode's forward conduction direction with the current then being negative. As the current reaches its negative peak the voltage across the tank passes zero and again starts to charge the capacitor to a positive value. The current then declines towards zero from its negative value at which the voltage reaches its positive peak value.

If there is free energy from the circuit the voltage across the capacitor after this completed cycle must be greater than the initial voltage of the cycle. The big question then is which component(s) is/are delivering the excess energy? The discharge tube and the diode as well as the LC-tank are probably all critical components. Also the wires of this part of the circuit could be critical. The negative flyback spike could be destructive as it reaches the breakdown voltage of something if the coil doesn't have enough parasitic capacitance to limit any breakdown of the other components. If it is the diode that goes into avalanche breakdown this could happen very fast like in nanoseconds. Be careful if trying to measure such spikes as the instruments could be damaged even before registering the event. If the diode breaks down at 1kV the device measuring this must be able to handle this voltage even if it isn't fast enough to actually see such a spike. The voltage could even be transformed up or down by loops formed. This is very radiant energy.

Regards
Ole



---In [email protected], <arkresearch@...> wrote :


The captain in florida  was the first to replicate ,  as told he went to create his own liturgy & religion  but fact is fact if it is OU coilbanger will drive it !

if not it will fart blood & die ! 

as  told a million times coilbanger is a test tool !


(H)


---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :

This is why I'm looking at other alternatives .my thinking is a closed system is just recycling old energy a type of circular logic .in every case where ou is really there it seems to be isotope flipping involved .tests.gray.the Swiss wheel.Newman need to take a hard look at this .easy testing filling caps and timing . hector your coil banger if no one can replicate it its like its not there . 


 
 On Friday, August 16, 2019, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

     
There are hundreds of claims this coil is ou! my kitchen sink with 2,000 turns of cuadrafillar wire is oU . my boat anchor with 2 turns of #4 welding cable turns is OU ! , kapednadze, John smith , Newman , well I designed the coilbanger to specifically  excite a coil and harvest its CEMF pulse back to the same capacitor and if it does not have ou it will simply fart & dia after a few cycles ! 

don smith circuit is NOT ou !  a Newman coil properly oriented to a magnet IS OU, MRA circuit coilbanged to its specifics IS OU !  MEG coilbanged in parallel and CEMF in series is OU 

things i have TOLD a million times, an OU circuit requires an specific Joule potential to SATURATE in order to obtain gain ! 

Norman has taught a billion times about "neutral spike" tailor a coilbanger to produce a NEUTRAL spike within a NORMAL transformer and you are in for the trip ! 

One potential to excite one frequency . another to collect the spike , and yes it is OU, the reason i don't give values is evident with 10% tolerances  in actual electronic components  you cant work
at .003 tolerance were a wire length of one forth of a turn can mess your day ..

now do i need 3 days for the post to be ejaculated into the forum from Yahoo ballsack !?

maybe ! 

 (H)
  



---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

HectorYour coil banger has driven me crazy trying to make it go. I bought two exact units as you described.I am not disputing that you got it to go, but you present it more as a puzzle to be solved, which I suppose, no doubt, it really, and truly is, in some senses, but nuts, and bolts, hands on advice, are in short supply.The concept needs to be generally known, and it needs to be in many hands, so it gets generally adopted.You are conflicted about this, as it pisses you off that sleazy gits take your work and run with it, getting rich.I think the worse part, is that they take authorship, which is wrong, and grossly unfair, if not fraudulent.In my own experience, I have found one rarely gets fame, and fortune, as a combined package.You get one, or the other, but not both. You must decide. Thet both have benefits, and deterrents.I am retired, whatever that means. I guess I have decided that I am not racing other rats through the maze.As surviving members of society, we have a certain obligation to future generations, as teachers, and, God forbid, sources of wisdom, and good advice.
Now, coil bangers need to be made. Every kid should have one by next Christmas, as a plastic bag full of parts, a kit for all ages.You need perfect fool proof instructions, that are tested with several groups of school kids, and found to work. This is a project.It is totally worth doing.It is work.It will cost money to supply the little baggies of parts.You have make one and show it to science teachers or "shop" teachers (if they even have such things now.)Failing this method, you hire a marketing research firm, and this is what they will do, when contracted by the advertising agency, you have also hired.Ka-ching,ka-ching! Then packaging, then bundling it with other "science" toys.Yes, you can make a shit load of money, eventually.Is that exactly what you wish to do, and need now in your life, because it is a job, and a full time one at that?It is your choice, but getting this flailing group of geeks to actually make a coil banger work is not a bad idea.If enough of us get them happening, with some success, the general honesty, and interest of the group will help refine the idea in ways none of us might expect. There is no dispute that you are the author.Now you have to make it work!To do that it needs to be replicated with success.Your fame will be earned.It takes, time, work, and energy, to make money, and sometimes you don't.Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 


On Fri., 16 Aug. 2019 at 6:57 a.m., arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 
You know how many times i posted about the coilbanger ? years explaining it and the only guy who made it work went to do his own religion based on it .......may a chicken give him a blow job !






   
 

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On Saturday, August 17, 2019, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Ole
> Thank you for the careful trail of crumbs, walking us through the theory.
> Well thought out questions.
> Have you had the opportunity to actually study this device in practice?
> In my old studio, Toronto, I kept a garbage bag of dead multimeters, as
> testimony of my investigations, exploring that, which I didn't understand
> was there, before the fateful zap.
> How very ignorant, and primitive we are, like slithering dinosaurs, trying
> to crawl out of the swamp, on to dry land.
> We don't understand this energy, and the set of rules it plays by.
> It is by examining it, while it is exhibiting itself to our perception,
> that we begin to find reliable ways make it manifest itself, yet again, and
> see what it can do.
> Ole, you are a good man to have with us on this quest.
> Thank you for your analytical thoughts.
> Cheers Warren
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Fri., 16 Aug. 2019 at 8:21 p.m., [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Analysis of the output part of the circuit
>
> When activating SW1 the discharge tube U1 fires and discharges the
> capacitor C3 into the coil L. The voltage across the then parallel L-C3
> tank then declines in a sine curve way from its peak value. The current in
> the tank increases as a sine curve starting from zero. When the voltage
> crosses zero the discharge tube turns off and the current has then reached
> its peak level. As the current is turned off the voltage flies back going
> negative as the coil turns into a source discharging its stored energy. The
> current then declines in a sinusoidal way from its peak value while the
> flyback voltage also goes negative as a sine curve reaching its negative
> peak value when the current passes zero. But the negative going spike
> either will reach the reverse breakdown voltage of the diode across the
> discharge tube or the breakdown voltage of the tube itself. This will again
> complete the circuit of the L-C3 tank which charges C3 in the reverse
> direction. When C3 has reached its negative peak voltage as the current
> passes zero it then starts discharging through the diode in the diode's
> forward conduction direction with the current then being negative. As the
> current reaches its negative peak the voltage across the tank passes zero
> and again starts to charge the capacitor to a positive value. The current
> then declines towards zero from its negative value at which the voltage
> reaches its positive peak value.
>
> If there is free energy from the circuit the voltage across the capacitor
> after this completed cycle must be greater than the initial voltage of the
> cycle. The big question then is which component(s) is/are delivering the
> excess energy? The discharge tube and the diode as well as the LC-tank are
> probably all critical components. Also the wires of this part of the
> circuit could be critical. The negative flyback spike could be destructive
> as it reaches the breakdown voltage of something if the coil doesn't have
> enough parasitic capacitance to limit any breakdown of the other
> components. If it is the diode that goes into avalanche breakdown this
> could happen very fast like in nanoseconds. Be careful if trying to measure
> such spikes as the instruments could be damaged even before registering the
> event. If the diode breaks down at 1kV the device measuring this must be
> able to handle this voltage even if it isn't fast enough to actually see
> such a spike. The voltage could even be transformed up or down by loops
> formed. This is very radiant energy.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <arkresearch@...> wrote :
>
> The captain in florida  was the first to replicate ,  as told he went to
> create his own liturgy & religion  but fact is fact if it is OU coilbanger
> will drive it !
>
> if not it will fart blood & die !
>
> as  told a million times coilbanger is a test tool !
>
> [image: alt]
> (H)
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :
>
> This is why I'm looking at other alternatives .my thinking is a closed
> system is just recycling old energy a type of circular logic .in every case
> where ou is really there it seems to be isotope flipping involved
> .tests.gray.the Swiss wheel.Newman need to take a hard look at this .easy
> testing filling caps and timing . hector your coil banger if no one can
> replicate it its like its not there .
>
> On Friday, August 16, 2019, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> There are hundreds of claims this coil is ou! my kitchen sink with 2,000
> turns of cuadrafillar wire is oU . my boat anchor with 2 turns of #4
> welding cable turns is OU ! , kapednadze, John smith , Newman , well I
> designed the coilbanger to specifically  excite a coil and harvest its CEMF
> pulse back to the same capacitor and if it does not have ou it will simply
> fart & dia after a few cycles !
>
> don smith circuit is NOT ou !  a Newman coil properly oriented to a magnet
> IS OU, MRA circuit coilbanged to its specifics IS OU !  MEG coilbanged in
> parallel and CEMF in series is OU
>
> things i have TOLD a million times, an OU circuit requires an specific
> Joule potential to SATURATE in order to obtain gain !
>
> Norman has taught a billion times about "neutral spike" tailor a
> coilbanger to produce a NEUTRAL spike within a NORMAL transformer and you
> are in for the trip !
>
> One potential to excite one frequency . another to collect the spike , and
> yes it is OU, the reason i don't give values is evident with 10%
> tolerances  in actual electronic components  you cant work
> at .003 tolerance were a wire length of one forth of a turn can mess your
> day ..
>
> now do i need 3 days for the post to be ejaculated into the forum from
> Yahoo ballsack !?
>
> maybe !
>
> (H)
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :
>
> Hector
> Your coil banger has driven me crazy trying to make it go. I bought two
> exact units as you described.
> I am not disputing that you got it to go, but you present it more as a
> puzzle to be solved, which I suppose, no doubt, it really, and truly is, in
> some senses, but nuts, and bolts, hands on advice, are in short supply.
> The concept needs to be generally known, and it needs to be in many hands,
> so it gets generally adopted.
> You are conflicted about this, as it pisses you off that sleazy gits take
> your work and run with it, getting rich.
> I think the worse part, is that they take authorship, which is wrong, and
> grossly unfair, if not fraudulent.
> In my own experience, I have found one rarely gets fame, and fortune, as a
> combined package.
> You get one, or the other, but not both. You must decide. Thet both have
> benefits, and deterrents.
> I am retired, whatever that means. I guess I have decided that I am not
> racing other rats through the maze.
> As surviving members of society, we have a certain obligation to future
> generations, as teachers, and, God forbid, sources of wisdom, and good
> advice.
> Now, coil bangers need to be made. Every kid should have one by next
> Christmas, as a plastic bag full of parts, a kit for all ages.
> You need perfect fool proof instructions, that are tested with several
> groups of school kids, and found to work.
> This is a project.
> It is totally worth doing.
> It is work.
> It will cost money to supply the little baggies of parts.
> You have make one and show it to science teachers or "shop" teachers (if
> they even have such things now.)
> Failing this method, you hire a marketing research firm, and this is what
> they will do, when contracted by the advertising agency, you have also
> hired.
> Ka-ching,ka-ching! Then packaging, then bundling it with other "science"
> toys.
> Yes, you can make a shit load of money, eventually.
> Is that exactly what you wish to do, and need now in your life, because it
> is a job, and a full time one at that?
> It is your choice, but getting this flailing group of geeks to actually
> make a coil banger work is not a bad idea.
> If enough of us get them happening, with some success, the general
> honesty, and interest of the group will help refine the idea in ways none
> of us might expect.
> There is no dispute that you are the author.
> Now you have to make it work!
> To do that it needs to be replicated with success.
> Your fame will be earned.
> It takes, time, work, and energy, to make money, and sometimes you don't.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Fri., 16 Aug. 2019 at 6:57 a.m., arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> You know how many times i posted about the coilbanger ? years explaining
> it and the only guy who made it work went to do his own religion based on
> it .......may a chicken give him a blow job !
>
> 
>

The crums have lead me a little further this morning .theres several
stories on Tesla's car .and part of one said he stopes at radio shack and
purchased a hand full of glass electron tubes and in another place the
found a note that said here's the secret with carbon rods .back in the days
of radium they found that if you put some on a coil or antenna it would amp
up!the signal .and if you put some on a cathode of a glass electron tube
and cascade them you could generate power from the with only a small
antenna for a signal .they were called cold cathode tubes..here around this
car are two of the elements for power production .beta energy will go
though glass as in a giger counter tube .I'm thinking he found a way to use
this to pull the beta energy and capture it in the tubes .the swiss just
let the hi voltage sparking of the carbon rods to spray the inside of the
big caps creating excess energy .and EV gray had a tube like device with a
carbon rod in his patents .as part of the system .so what if Tesla
surrounded the carbon rod spark gap with these tubes he purchased and just
let them spray there internal parts .they could be controlled by the gates
. this may be how he did it .by using the beta spray onto thd system
.amping up the current .with out contamination of the vacuum with radium
gas radon .like with browns nuclear battery .that needed to be vacuum out
every three days .the out side source of energy would dove this problem and
not be as deadly as radium..that really connecting to the wheel works of
the universe .unless I've had to much wine .?.

On Saturday, August 17, 2019, James Glinski <[email protected]> wrote:

> The PDF doesn't open or down load .?
>
> On Saturday, August 17, 2019, Warren Keillor [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Ole
>> Thank you for the careful trail of crumbs, walking us through the theory.
>> Well thought out questions.
>> Have you had the opportunity to actually study this device in practice?
>> In my old studio, Toronto, I kept a garbage bag of dead multimeters, as
>> testimony of my investigations, exploring that, which I didn't understand
>> was there, before the fateful zap.
>> How very ignorant, and primitive we are, like slithering dinosaurs,
>> trying to crawl out of the swamp, on to dry land.
>> We don't understand this energy, and the set of rules it plays by.
>> It is by examining it, while it is exhibiting itself to our perception,
>> that we begin to find reliable ways make it manifest itself, yet again, and
>> see what it can do.
>> Ole, you are a good man to have with us on this quest.
>> Thank you for your analytical thoughts.
>> Cheers Warren
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>> On Fri., 16 Aug. 2019 at 8:21 p.m., [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Analysis of the output part of the circuit
>>
>> When activating SW1 the discharge tube U1 fires and discharges the
>> capacitor C3 into the coil L. The voltage across the then parallel L-C3
>> tank then declines in a sine curve way from its peak value. The current in
>> the tank increases as a sine curve starting from zero. When the voltage
>> crosses zero the discharge tube turns off and the current has then reached
>> its peak level. As the current is turned off the voltage flies back going
>> negative as the coil turns into a source discharging its stored energy. The
>> current then declines in a sinusoidal way from its peak value while the
>> flyback voltage also goes negative as a sine curve reaching its negative
>> peak value when the current passes zero. But the negative going spike
>> either will reach the reverse breakdown voltage of the diode across the
>> discharge tube or the breakdown voltage of the tube itself. This will again
>> complete the circuit of the L-C3 tank which charges C3 in the reverse
>> direction. When C3 has reached its negative peak voltage as the current
>> passes zero it then starts discharging through the diode in the diode's
>> forward conduction direction with the current then being negative. As the
>> current reaches its negative peak the voltage across the tank passes zero
>> and again starts to charge the capacitor to a positive value. The current
>> then declines towards zero from its negative value at which the voltage
>> reaches its positive peak value.
>>
>> If there is free energy from the circuit the voltage across the capacitor
>> after this completed cycle must be greater than the initial voltage of the
>> cycle. The big question then is which component(s) is/are delivering the
>> excess energy? The discharge tube and the diode as well as the LC-tank are
>> probably all critical components. Also the wires of this part of the
>> circuit could be critical. The negative flyback spike could be destructive
>> as it reaches the breakdown voltage of something if the coil doesn't have
>> enough parasitic capacitance to limit any breakdown of the other
>> components. If it is the diode that goes into avalanche breakdown this
>> could happen very fast like in nanoseconds. Be careful if trying to measure
>> such spikes as the instruments could be damaged even before registering the
>> event. If the diode breaks down at 1kV the device measuring this must be
>> able to handle this voltage even if it isn't fast enough to actually see
>> such a spike. The voltage could even be transformed up or down by loops
>> formed. This is very radiant energy.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ole
>>
>>
>>
>> ---In [email protected], <arkresearch@...> wrote :
>>
>> The captain in florida  was the first to replicate ,  as told he went to
>> create his own liturgy & religion  but fact is fact if it is OU coilbanger
>> will drive it !
>>
>> if not it will fart blood & die !
>>
>> as  told a million times coilbanger is a test tool !
>>
>> [image: alt]
>> (H)
>>
>>
>> ---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :
>>
>> This is why I'm looking at other alternatives .my thinking is a closed
>> system is just recycling old energy a type of circular logic .in every case
>> where ou is really there it seems to be isotope flipping involved
>> .tests.gray.the Swiss wheel.Newman need to take a hard look at this .easy
>> testing filling caps and timing . hector your coil banger if no one can
>> replicate it its like its not there .
>>
>> On Friday, August 16, 2019, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> There are hundreds of claims this coil is ou! my kitchen sink with 2,000
>> turns of cuadrafillar wire is oU . my boat anchor with 2 turns of #4
>> welding cable turns is OU ! , kapednadze, John smith , Newman , well I
>> designed the coilbanger to specifically  excite a coil and harvest its CEMF
>> pulse back to the same capacitor and if it does not have ou it will simply
>> fart & dia after a few cycles !
>>
>> don smith circuit is NOT ou !  a Newman coil properly oriented to a
>> magnet IS OU, MRA circuit coilbanged to its specifics IS OU !  MEG
>> coilbanged in parallel and CEMF in series is OU
>>
>> things i have TOLD a million times, an OU circuit requires an specific
>> Joule potential to SATURATE in order to obtain gain !
>>
>> Norman has taught a billion times about "neutral spike" tailor a
>> coilbanger to produce a NEUTRAL spike within a NORMAL transformer and you
>> are in for the trip !
>>
>> One potential to excite one frequency . another to collect the spike ,
>> and yes it is OU, the reason i don't give values is evident with 10%
>> tolerances  in actual electronic components  you cant work
>> at .003 tolerance were a wire length of one forth of a turn can mess your
>> day ..
>>
>> now do i need 3 days for the post to be ejaculated into the forum from
>> Yahoo ballsack !?
>>
>> maybe !
>>
>> (H)
>>
>>
>>
>> ---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :
>>
>> Hector
>> Your coil banger has driven me crazy trying to make it go. I bought two
>> exact units as you described.
>> I am not disputing that you got it to go, but you present it more as a
>> puzzle to be solved, which I suppose, no doubt, it really, and truly is, in
>> some senses, but nuts, and bolts, hands on advice, are in short supply.
>> The concept needs to be generally known, and it needs to be in many
>> hands, so it gets generally adopted.
>> You are conflicted about this, as it pisses you off that sleazy gits take
>> your work and run with it, getting rich.
>> I think the worse part, is that they take authorship, which is wrong, and
>> grossly unfair, if not fraudulent.
>> In my own experience, I have found one rarely gets fame, and fortune, as
>> a combined package.
>> You get one, or the other, but not both. You must decide. Thet both have
>> benefits, and deterrents.
>> I am retired, whatever that means. I guess I have decided that I am not
>> racing other rats through the maze.
>> As surviving members of society, we have a certain obligation to future
>> generations, as teachers, and, God forbid, sources of wisdom, and good
>> advice.
>> Now, coil bangers need to be made. Every kid should have one by next
>> Christmas, as a plastic bag full of parts, a kit for all ages.
>> You need perfect fool proof instructions, that are tested with several
>> groups of school kids, and found to work.
>> This is a project.
>> It is totally worth doing.
>> It is work.
>> It will cost money to supply the little baggies of parts.
>> You have make one and show it to science teachers or "shop" teachers (if
>> they even have such things now.)
>> Failing this method, you hire a marketing research firm, and this is what
>> they will do, when contracted by the advertising agency, you have also
>> hired.
>> Ka-ching,ka-ching! Then packaging, then bundling it with other "science"
>> toys.
>> Yes, you can make a shit load of money, eventually.
>> Is that exactly what you wish to do, and need now in your life, because
>> it is a job, and a full time one at that?
>> It is your choice, but getting this flailing group of geeks to actually
>> make a coil banger work is not a bad idea.
>> If enough of us get them happening, with some success, the general
>> honesty, and interest of the group will help refine the idea in ways none
>> of us might expect.
>> There is no dispute that you are the author.
>> Now you have to make it work!
>> To do that it needs to be replicated with success.
>> Your fame will be earned.
>> It takes, time, work, and energy, to make money, and sometimes you don't.
>> Cheers Warren
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>> On Fri., 16 Aug. 2019 at 6:57 a.m., arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> You know how many times i posted about the coilbanger ? years explaining
>> it and the only guy who made it work went to do his own religion based on
>> it .......may a chicken give him a blow job !
>>
>> 
>>
>

Hello,

I'm curious about the "improved inventions of gpe ab" !
I've seen the link provided and looked for the 1 million dollar question: what was the generator's output provided by the 1634 W input ??
The concept is interesting...

Thank you,

Polartronic - FR
 

    Le Thu Aug 15 2019 02:10:48 GMT+0200, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> a écrit :  
 
     
Paramahamsa Tewari - Reduced Reaction Rotary Alternating Current Generator USPA 2015/0084467

Paramahamsa Tewari - High Efficiency Alternating Current Generator WO 2016/170384
Bert Ivan Harju - Motor-or a Generator-Related Arrangement USP 7786634
The improved inventions of gpe ab

I personally knows the inventor who doesn't speak english. 

JOHN BEDINI’S FREE ENERGY GENERATOR
Coefficient Performance of Battery Running and Charging by Magnet Generator Bedini
Best Wishes, Hermes

Hi Hermes
"Twice the output" ok, but to get x2 out wbat about horsepower/wstts increase in prime moverto get it?
RPMs alone not at all a good inicator of wbat input/prime mover watts is....need to know the rotational power/watts input as it could simply take x2 more  power to spin while making c2  power....LB/ft torque on shaft along with RPMs would welp to see if any good or not.
Kone

less than 2629.6 Watt. The inventor now claims the generator output twice the electricity compared to a conventional generator at maximum speed 3000 rpm in Europe and 3600 rpm in USA. The drawback is it also output twice the line frequency 100 Hz in Europe and 120 Hz in USA so you need a converter.
Best Wishes, Hermes
The invention in american is covered by this USP:
Bert Ivan Harju - Motor-or a Generator-Related Arrangement USP 7786634

    Den onsdag 21 augusti 2019 20:10:14 CEST, polartronic [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> skrev:  
 
     

Hello,

I'm curious about the "improved inventions of gpe ab" !
I've seen the link provided and looked for the 1 million dollar question: what was the generator's output provided by the 1634 W input ??
The concept is interesting...

Thank you,

Polartronic - FR
 

    Le Thu Aug 15 2019 02:10:48 GMT+0200, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> a écrit :  
 
     
Paramahamsa Tewari - Reduced Reaction Rotary Alternating Current Generator USPA 2015/0084467

Paramahamsa Tewari - High Efficiency Alternating Current Generator WO 2016/170384
Bert Ivan Harju - Motor-or a Generator-Related Arrangement USP 7786634
The improved inventions of gpe ab

I personally knows the inventor who doesn't speak english. 

JOHN BEDINI’S FREE ENERGY GENERATOR
Coefficient Performance of Battery Running and Charging by Magnet Generator Bedini
Best Wishes, Hermes 




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Hi Hermes
 Sorry I read what you wrote wrong, also forgive my spelling its really bad on my smartphone but have my laptop now...anyways so he is saying approx. 1600watts input makes "less than" 2600watts output?
 That's great if so, I don't really doubt it if he uses his special motors to spin it too, BUT those two words "less than" throw me off this could mean a lot of different things I guess it means that its 2600 watts maximum output, but is it "still" 1600W input at the maximum..I assume he has spreadsheet of most efficient watts in vs out figures for different watts inputs and watts ouputs.
 Kone

Hi Kone,
 

 The inventor claim that the generator at full speed (3000 rpm) output twice the input power of the motor in a motor/generator device. The only drawback is it also output twice the linefrequency (100Hz).
 

 At half the speed of the motor (1500 rpm) the motor/generator device outputs the linefrequency (50 Hz). But then the motor/generator is less effective.
 

 Best Wishes, Hermes
 

 P.S I have lost contact with the inventor, at least through e-mail. I seldom use the phone, because of my hearing problem. But on the other hand I can try to send a text-message to his phone.
 

 P.S Tell me what you want to know...There is unfortunatly a problem with his fear for the energy powers (read fossil fuel) producer and even producer of wind and solar. Because his invention makes them worthless.
 

 P.S Kone, I have an idea of an overunity generator, but I dont know if I am thinking right. What should I do with it? Open source it or test it and if it works. Try to patent it? It is based on a patented solid state overunty device.

Hi Hermes
Ask.him if he can loop it so runs itself witb power left over and bas he done it or someone else has he knows.
Tell him i know factory owner in S germany who nas been to India a few times and would like tomanufacture discreet style.
I would say go open source immexiately, build some protoytpes  try to get othrez too to do it.
Kone

Hermesatar,The simple solution is just not worry about the frequency much. Drop it down to a voltage you like, with a transformer, then rectify it to DC. Use an inverter, then, or simply use the DC.Cheers Warren

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  On Sun., 25 Aug. 2019 at 12:51 a.m., [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Hi Kone,
The inventor claim that the generator at full speed (3000 rpm) output twice the input power of the motor in a motor/generator device. The only drawback is it also output twice the linefrequency (100Hz).
At half the speed of the motor (1500 rpm) the motor/generator device outputs the linefrequency (50 Hz). But then the motor/generator is less effective.
Best Wishes, Hermes
P.S I have lost contact with the inventor, at least through e-mail. I seldom use the phone, because of my hearing problem. But on the other hand I can try to send a text-message to his phone.
P.S Tell me what you want to know...There is unfortunatly a problem with his fear for the energy powers (read fossil fuel) producer and even producer of wind and solar. Because his invention makes them worthless.
P.S Kone, I have an idea of an overunity generator, but I dont know if I am thinking right. What should I do with it? Open source it or test it and if it works. Try to patent it? It is based on a patented solid state overunty device.


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HermesA follow up to Doug.Open source, and if you want to make a living from it, make them locally, selling the systems to friends and neighbors.Here, in Ontario, Canada, where I am, I can not make enough of such power plants to even make a dent in the need, in my lifetime.People will buy from someone they trust, and who will trouble shoot, and repair things, as needed.There is a huge desire for getting off the grid in any way possible, around here.There are no stinking laws against it, just do it!Cheers Warren

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  On Sun., 25 Aug. 2019 at 2:59 a.m., [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Hermes
Ask.him if he can loop it so runs itself witb power left over and bas he done it or someone else has he knows.
Tell him i know factory owner in S germany who nas been to India a few times and would like tomanufacture discreet style.
I would say go open source immexiately, build some protoytpes try to get othrez too to do it.
Kone
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