Re: [EVGRAY] Re: About that Rainbow

Marylynn great job as a suppression agent, do they pay your girls well
for fucking over others?   Your soul is black and vacant and the
insanity runs rampant and as deep as those duck shit brain amoebas chew
and digest the swiiss cheasy char holes far in far in far in the deadpan
headpan cored out and wiped pleasantly vacant.   Snap

goodbye loser



On 7/24/2019 6:55 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Yes you are absolutely correct oneil.
> There are no poor students only poor teachers.
> But when you have a class who think they know it all already but
> really cant think outside the fish bowl. Whats a guy gonna do?
> Then the LAW of acceptance manifests as Ridicule, Violent rejection
> that made poor kone act like cowporn and i can only ask..... Are we
> there yet with accepting it as self evident?
>
> If we are there now..., i actually did a pretty good job.
>
> But just to check how well i reprogrammed false marbles with the
> Radiance of the god force ( love force) Just one more Question.
>
> What is RV, Kone?
>
>

The common explanation of the rainbow is light entering a drop of water is refracted.
 

 The kindergardenish TWO DIMENSIONAL drawing of a straight line entering a circle beLIES the Spiral nature of light WAVES entering a THREE DIMENSIONAL Sphere. 

 

 If I have to write  more, I have to ask myself... whats the point. they will never get it. 

 

 The childish explanation that only explain ONE drop of water SORTA covers it. It does not explain the singular pattern of opposite and equal of billions of refraction's. So how does so many rainbows from the lines entering so many circle drops of water create a ONE pattern. And why cant we see it when standing IN IT?

 

 Get to it Oneil. This is a good challenge for you to really observe nature and the energy emitted from the Neutral Centre of the Sun. Thats apparently only needed when a solar panel is required.

Hi MerLynn,

"If I have to write  more, I have to ask myself... whats the point. they will never get it."
Then try using the scientific method. Perhaps you just need a good teacher to communicate your story. If we don't get it the teacher is no good.

"So how does so many rainbows from the lines entering so many circle drops of water create a ONE pattern. And why cant we see it when standing IN IT?"
That has something to do with angles between the light source and the observer. They will only see each other from the correct angles. If you try to go to one of the ends of a rainbow you will observe that it isn't something stationary. Observers at different points will see the rainbow at different places. All the places will have the same angle between the observer and the sun. It's amazing that you haven't got such knowledge. Even children find out that when trying go to where the rainbow hits the ground.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <eagleseeone@...> wrote :

 The common explanation of the rainbow is light entering a drop of water is refracted.
 

 The kindergardenish TWO DIMENSIONAL drawing of a straight line entering a circle beLIES the Spiral nature of light WAVES entering a THREE DIMENSIONAL Sphere. 

 

 If I have to write  more, I have to ask myself... whats the point. they will never get it. 

 

 The childish explanation that only explain ONE drop of water SORTA covers it. It does not explain the singular pattern of opposite and equal of billions of refraction's. So how does so many rainbows from the lines entering so many circle drops of water create a ONE pattern. And why cant we see it when standing IN IT?

 

 Get to it Oneil. This is a good challenge for you to really observe nature and the energy emitted from the Neutral Centre of the Sun. Thats apparently only needed when a solar panel is required.

Yes you are absolutely correct oneil. 
There are no poor students only poor teachers.
But when you have a class who think they know it all already but really cant think outside the fish bowl. Whats a guy gonna do? 
Then the LAW of acceptance manifests as Ridicule, Violent rejection that made poor kone act like cowporn and i can only ask..... Are we there yet with accepting it as self evident?
  
If we are there now...,  i actually did a pretty good job. 

But just to check how well i reprogrammed false marbles with the Radiance of the god force ( love force) Just one more Question. 

What is RV, Kone?

Hi MerLynn,

"What is RV, Kone?"

RV is abbreviation for RotoVerter or rotating converter. Hector power factor corrects the induction motor (asynchronous motor) to get rid of the reactive power. Reactive power does nothing but heats the windings and transmission lines because the current still has to run in the wires. The current creates resistive power loss in metallic conductors. Resistive loss (i^2 x R) is active power being dissipated as heat. There are claims of even making RVs self-running when forming a loop with a generator. This hasn't been satisfactory scientifically proven yet to my knowledge. Hector has the same problem as you have in getting others to replicate and deliver proof of the concept. Most measurements done on the rotoverter is done with simple instruments only showing voltage and current. What would be interesting to see is the power like active and reactive power and the direction of the power. That would tell about the power and thus energy. I.e. energy is power integrated along time.

Power measurements require more advanced instruments making it more expensive. When the voltage and current are sine curves the power factor can be measured with three separate meters (http://www.giangrandi.ch/electronics/cosphi/cosphi.shtml http://www.giangrandi.ch/electronics/cosphi/cosphi.shtml). One instrument will suffice if the power is stable by taking the measurements at the different points in different times. Knowing the power factor makes it possible to calculate the active and reactive parts of the power.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <eagleseeone@...> wrote :

 Yes you are absolutely correct oneil. 
 There are no poor students only poor teachers.
 But when you have a class who think they know it all already but really cant think outside the fish bowl. Whats a guy gonna do? 
 Then the LAW of acceptance manifests as Ridicule, Violent rejection that made poor kone act like cowporn and i can only ask..... Are we there yet with accepting it as self evident?
 
 If we are there now..., i actually did a pretty good job. 
 
 But just to check how well i reprogrammed false marbles with the Radiance of the god force ( love force) Just one more Question. 
 
 What is RV, Kone?

Permit me to correct : RV measurements had being done in PURE DC input from battery, output in PURE non ripple DC results vary from cop 1.3 to cop 12  depending on motors & set up i have no problems in having other replicate but i don't oblige anyone to publish after what was done to Brian Prater and others that had gone public RV has being tested OVERUNITY LONNGGG aGO  and i have no need to make a show on it ...also there are over 50,000 operating looped units worldwide
so what do i care for the words of fools ?  

RV is a simple tool that makes possible use of otherwise wasted reactive power components of energy, add to that the DIODE plug that transfers PURE RF resonant power into a JOULE potential within a capacitor as voltage farad stored energy and can discharge it non reflective to source into a load ! 

Its simple stuff no fancy cosmic bullshit or far from the book rules ..


(H)  overunity is a transformation phenomena within KNOWN book rules ! 

 
 

---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :

 Hi MerLynn,

"What is RV, Kone?"

RV is abbreviation for RotoVerter or rotating converter. Hector power factor corrects the induction motor (asynchronous motor) to get rid of the reactive power. Reactive power does nothing but heats the windings and transmission lines because the current still has to run in the wires. The current creates resistive power loss in metallic conductors. Resistive loss (i^2 x R) is active power being dissipated as heat. There are claims of even making RVs self-running when forming a loop with a generator. This hasn't been satisfactory scientifically proven yet to my knowledge. Hector has the same problem as you have in getting others to replicate and deliver proof of the concept. Most measurements done on the rotoverter is done with simple instruments only showing voltage and current. What would be interesting to see is the power like active and reactive power and the direction of the power. That would tell about the power and thus energy. I.e. energy is power integrated along time.

Power measurements require more advanced instruments making it more expensive. When the voltage and current are sine curves the power factor can be measured with three separate meters (http://www.giangrandi.ch/electronics/cosphi/cosphi.shtml http://www.giangrandi.ch/electronics/cosphi/cosphi.shtml). One instrument will suffice if the power is stable by taking the measurements at the different points in different times. Knowing the power factor makes it possible to calculate the active and reactive parts of the power.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <eagleseeone@...> wrote :

 Yes you are absolutely correct oneil. 
 There are no poor students only poor teachers.
 But when you have a class who think they know it all already but really cant think outside the fish bowl. Whats a guy gonna do? 
 Then the LAW of acceptance manifests as Ridicule, Violent rejection that made poor kone act like cowporn and i can only ask..... Are we there yet with accepting it as self evident?
 
 If we are there now..., i actually did a pretty good job. 
 
 But just to check how well i reprogrammed false marbles with the Radiance of the god force ( love force) Just one more Question. 
 
 What is RV, Kone?

That is a kind of a give away as to your progress. 

 I think he did a fair job considering the closed minds in denial that he had to work with.
 

 Maybe not enough info for a build but lots of leads to follow up. You see what he is on a bout is something that has already been done!!! A lot of it resides in the 2000 suppressed patents! It just requires a dollop of curiosity.
 

 Ron
 

---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Marylynn great job as a suppression agent, do they pay your girls well for fucking over others?   Your soul is black and vacant and the insanity runs rampant and as deep as those duck shit brain amoebas chew and digest the swiiss cheasy char holes far in far in far in the deadpan headpan cored out and wiped pleasantly vacant.   Snap 

 goodbye loser

OleAlthough my instruments were unsophisticated, I am fairly sure my measurements were correct, running my RV putting 1.5 amps at 12 volts DC into an inverter, getting 120 volts out, then RV running it through the capacitor circuit, in series to the primary of a multi tap transformer, then to a rectifier to get 12 volts DC, which I then ran a DC motor( an electric outboard trolling motor, for use with a small boat) which drew 2.5 and at the brushes.I measured both with digital and scientific analog volt meters, and am meters.( They agreed)Just as another reality check, I was only running off a 5 amp gel cell battery,which one rarely can perform miracles with.Oh! An interesting aside:I connected a Rene charger to the 24 volt tap of that series connected transformer. Then rectified it, to run the Rene.I was unable to measure any additional load on the primary battery even while charging several 12 volt gel cell 5 amp. batteries at once. It gets one thinking.....?Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu., 25 Jul. 2019 at 7:26 a.m., [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi MerLynn,

"What is RV, Kone?"

RV is abbreviation for RotoVerter or rotating converter. Hector power factor corrects the induction motor (asynchronous motor) to get rid of the reactive power. Reactive power does nothing but heats the windings and transmission lines because the current still has to run in the wires. The current creates resistive power loss in metallic conductors. Resistive loss (i^2 x R) is active power being dissipated as heat. There are claims of even making RVs self-running when forming a loop with a generator. This hasn't been satisfactory scientifically proven yet to my knowledge. Hector has the same problem as you have in getting others to replicate and deliver proof of the concept. Most measurements done on the rotoverter is done with simple instruments only showing voltage and current. What would be interesting to see is the power like active and reactive power and the direction of the power. That would tell about the power and thus energy. I.e. energy is power integrated along time.

Power measurements require more advanced instruments making it more expensive. When the voltage and current are sine curves the power factor can be measured with three separate meters (http://www.giangrandi.ch/electronics/cosphi/cosphi.shtml). One instrument will suffice if the power is stable by taking the measurements at the different points in different times. Knowing the power factor makes it possible to calculate the active and reactive parts of the power.

Regards
Ole



---In [email protected], <eagleseeone@...> wrote :

Yes you are absolutely correct oneil. 
There are no poor students only poor teachers.
But when you have a class who think they know it all already but really cant think outside the fish bowl. Whats a guy gonna do? 
Then the LAW of acceptance manifests as Ridicule, Violent rejection that made poor kone act like cowporn and i can only ask..... Are we there yet with accepting it as self evident?

If we are there now..., i actually did a pretty good job. 

But just to check how well i reprogrammed false marbles with the Radiance of the god force ( love force) Just one more Question. 

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Even at the start when the claims of power factor , misreadings in AC and all other skeptic shit 
,what i told experimenters is exactly what you did Pure DC in from a battery and amp reading 

Pure DC out and amp readings , that is a no bullshit low tech way of testing in any experiment if you have OVERUNITY !

And you also had posted this same thing here a million times and apart from some DONE the experiments and got results , wile as i have told some insist to dive cavity deep into the bulls ass
and savor every drop of bullshit they can get ! and experiment on nothing , do nothing and only bother the shit out of those that do ! 

Thanks 



   

---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

 Ole Although my instruments were unsophisticated, I am fairly sure my measurements were correct, running my RV putting 1.5 amps at 12 volts DC into an inverter, getting 120 volts out, then RV running it through the capacitor circuit, in series to the primary of a multi tap transformer, then to a rectifier to get 12 volts DC, which I then ran a DC motor( an electric outboard trolling motor, for use with a small boat) which drew 2.5 and at the brushes.
 I measured both with digital and scientific analog volt meters, and am meters.( They agreed)
 Just as another reality check, I was only running off a 5 amp gel cell battery,
 which one rarely can perform miracles with.
 Oh! An interesting aside:
 I connected a Rene charger to the 24 volt tap of that series connected transformer. Then rectified it, to run the Rene.
 I was unable to measure any additional load on the primary battery even while charging several 12 volt gel cell 5 amp. batteries at once. 
 It gets one thinking.....?
 Cheers Warren
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature
 
 On Thu., 25 Jul. 2019 at 7:26 a.m., onielsen@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   Hi MerLynn,

"What is RV, Kone?"

RV is abbreviation for RotoVerter or rotating converter. Hector power factor corrects the induction motor (asynchronous motor) to get rid of the reactive power. Reactive power does nothing but heats the windings and transmission lines because the current still has to run in the wires. The current creates resistive power loss in metallic conductors. Resistive loss (i^2 x R) is active power being dissipated as heat. There are claims of even making RVs self-running when forming a loop with a generator. This hasn't been satisfactory scientifically proven yet to my knowledge. Hector has the same problem as you have in getting others to replicate and deliver proof of the concept. Most measurements done on the rotoverter is done with simple instruments only showing voltage and current. What would be interesting to see is the power like active and reactive power and the direction of the power. That would tell about the power and thus energy. I.e. energy is power integrated along time.

Power measurements require more advanced instruments making it more expensive. When the voltage and current are sine curves the power factor can be measured with three separate meters (http://www.giangrandi.ch/electronics/cosphi/cosphi.shtml http://www.giangrandi.ch/electronics/cosphi/cosphi.shtml). One instrument will suffice if the power is stable by taking the measurements at the different points in different times. Knowing the power factor makes it possible to calculate the active and reactive parts of the power.

Regards
Ole

 

---In [email protected], <eagleseeone@...> wrote :

 Yes you are absolutely correct oneil. 
 There are no poor students only poor teachers.
 But when you have a class who think they know it all already but really cant think outside the fish bowl. Whats a guy gonna do? 
 Then the LAW of acceptance manifests as Ridicule, Violent rejection that made poor kone act like cowporn and i can only ask..... Are we there yet with accepting it as self evident?
 
 If we are there now..., i actually did a pretty good job. 
 
 But just to check how well i reprogrammed false marbles with the Radiance of the god force ( love force) Just one more Question. 
 
 What is RV, Kone?

Now that we know the difference between RV energy and Radiant Energy, from a theoretical point of view. That concludes our Primary school level of Water Science. We still have higher levels of learning to go.
  
 For the question of what RV is, the answer of Boat Anchor isnt quite right. RV is a useful tool to understanding one side of the Opposite and Equal of Energy. When Joe finally gave me the green light to Radiant Energy promotion, some 15 years of teaching experiments I had to recall. Tis unfortunate I am his only Apprentice and if you ask Joe about a lesson from a decade ago. Man you get blasted for hours with the most amazing ‘science’ the world has ever seen. But I digress.
  
 Tesla didnt broadcast electrons without wires. His wireless transmission of energy didnt transmit DC or AC or anything you have ever 'made' with magnets and coils. His Wardenclyffe Tower had a NEUTRAL CENTRE at the Top to radiate energy, broadcasting to that which was sympathetic to its frequency. Things on 60 Hertz. 
  
 The PEARL I CASTE was how to make an RV into a Radiant Energy device. But the mindset of some couldnt get past how the Pearl was caste amongst you. A Radiant Energy device can be as small as a pin point inside a capacitor or better yet a crystal (alien of course) transistor or as large as Louie the Fly's Lutech 2000 generator. http://free-energy.ws/lutec/ http://free-energy.ws/lutec/  But you really know Zero point when you realize some one made Earths and Galaxies with one at their centre too. Silver works best in this pin head size Neutral Centre Radiant Energy electrical component model, But we haven’t got past spinning magnets here on Evgray. A pin head Radiant Energy device will power an apartment block. 
  
 For those who want to progress past Hectors RV performance rating or his Fish bowl Primary school level Water Energizer, I remind readers again on how we made the Lutech 2000 into a radiant Energy Device, up from the “Standard tech” (as Joe Calls it) of an RV device. Joe took his Neutral Washer/twin magnet,  (Synchronicity of Coincidence to use Keely’s words.) and applied it to the Shaft of the Motor giving the “out of the Box RV motor” a Neutral Centre and the potential to generate Radiant Energy the best such a barbaric Out of the Box RV device can give. 
  
 Just image if you could design a Radiant Energy Motor… would it look something like the SS/FP motor? What happened to ALL of Tesla’s motor winding diagrams for his last 40 years? SS? FP? Seems no one can find out much about them can they? I remember when Joe first showed me one more than a decade ago. He pointed out how they work on 4.5 volts(?) are 3 phase and how the controller wasn’t required to make them ‘produce’ as he called it. 
  
 I do not have time to con anyone. What I write about I know intimately and have seen it work or repaired a working model or helped in its construction. Mostly all three. If you doubt what I write you are not seeing the Pearl I present. The only Fun I get from this Fundamental presentation is knocking the nay Sayers. 
  
 The Pearl I caste was in the historical understanding of the importance of the Neutral Centre for Radiant Energy. I gave several examples of how its constructed by washers and Magnets, non-electrified Neutral Plates in a Water Joe cell, the FP Motor Circuitry as obtuse as I could and some of the many uses and products one can make with Radiant Cold Fusion Zero point Aetheric based Electrical Energy. Like COW Shit to Fresh water. (Prince Kareem of Dubai saw that one whilst Black helicopters flew overhead) Water into Oil, Salt into fresh, Healing bath waters. A Norm Memory Bucket (named in honor of his contribution to this disclosure) and a twin magnet motor just for those who read and didn’t spam such monumental disclosures.
  
 So actually I failed miserably with this Class as I had to repeat myself so many times that it aint FUN poking fun at the nay sayers anymore. 
  
 Sparking peoples curiosity with radiant energy can be done in many ways. Flashing the 3rd Eye with a Baghdad Battery is but one.

Lorne, Smokey John Berry et al
 These 3 guys are some who have read my re-education attempts on several other forums over the last 12 or so years. The JoeCell Forums and the ORMUS/orme forums.
 

 Them would be alchemists are the most hard headed of them ALL.
 

 The JoeCellers were preprogrammed with them stupid ORGONE theories of Con Stevens and Job's Shiffliers Experimenters Guide to JoeCells making them VERY closed minded to the Science of the Universe.
 

 So tell us in your own opinion, Lorne, Smokey and John.....
 How did the presentation and reception go this time?
 

 Is this group worth Upwising?

Hi Hector and Warren,

You're right. I just forgot the DC measurements probably after seeing to many bad measurements all around. The ultimate proof is making it self-run though. Over here where fossil fuel will be phased out we do need alternatives. Solar and wind power seems to be alright for the grid. But alternatives are needed for transport. Battery cars are still developing. Wouldn't it be much nicer to make the energy needed to run a car on board the car instead of having to charge batteries?!

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <arkresearch@...> wrote :

 
 Even at the start when the claims of power factor , misreadings in AC and all other skeptic shit 
,what i told experimenters is exactly what you did Pure DC in from a battery and amp reading 

Pure DC out and amp readings , that is a no bullshit low tech way of testing in any experiment if you have OVERUNITY !

And you also had posted this same thing here a million times and apart from some DONE the experiments and got results , wile as i have told some insist to dive cavity deep into the bulls ass
and savor every drop of bullshit they can get ! and experiment on nothing , do nothing and only bother the shit out of those that do ! 

Thanks 



   

---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

 Ole Although my instruments were unsophisticated, I am fairly sure my measurements were correct, running my RV putting 1.5 amps at 12 volts DC into an inverter, getting 120 volts out, then RV running it through the capacitor circuit, in series to the primary of a multi tap transformer, then to a rectifier to get 12 volts DC, which I then ran a DC motor( an electric outboard trolling motor, for use with a small boat) which drew 2.5 and at the brushes.
 I measured both with digital and scientific analog volt meters, and am meters.( They agreed)
 Just as another reality check, I was only running off a 5 amp gel cell battery,
 which one rarely can perform miracles with.
 Oh! An interesting aside:
 I connected a Rene charger to the 24 volt tap of that series connected transformer. Then rectified it, to run the Rene.
 I was unable to measure any additional load on the primary battery even while charging several 12 volt gel cell 5 amp. batteries at once. 
 It gets one thinking.....?
 Cheers Warren
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 On Thu., 25 Jul. 2019 at 7:26 a.m., onielsen@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   Hi MerLynn,

"What is RV, Kone?"

RV is abbreviation for RotoVerter or rotating converter. Hector power factor corrects the induction motor (asynchronous motor) to get rid of the reactive power. Reactive power does nothing but heats the windings and transmission lines because the current still has to run in the wires. The current creates resistive power loss in metallic conductors. Resistive loss (i^2 x R) is active power being dissipated as heat. There are claims of even making RVs self-running when forming a loop with a generator. This hasn't been satisfactory scientifically proven yet to my knowledge. Hector has the same problem as you have in getting others to replicate and deliver proof of the concept. Most measurements done on the rotoverter is done with simple instruments only showing voltage and current. What would be interesting to see is the power like active and reactive power and the direction of the power. That would tell about the power and thus energy. I.e. energy is power integrated along time.

Power measurements require more advanced instruments making it more expensive. When the voltage and current are sine curves the power factor can be measured with three separate meters (http://www.giangrandi.ch/electronics/cosphi/cosphi.shtml http://www.giangrandi.ch/electronics/cosphi/cosphi.shtml). One instrument will suffice if the power is stable by taking the measurements at the different points in different times. Knowing the power factor makes it possible to calculate the active and reactive parts of the power.

Regards
Ole

 

---In [email protected], <eagleseeone@...> wrote :

 Yes you are absolutely correct oneil. 
 There are no poor students only poor teachers.
 But when you have a class who think they know it all already but really cant think outside the fish bowl. Whats a guy gonna do? 
 Then the LAW of acceptance manifests as Ridicule, Violent rejection that made poor kone act like cowporn and i can only ask..... Are we there yet with accepting it as self evident?
 
 If we are there now..., i actually did a pretty good job. 
 
 But just to check how well i reprogrammed false marbles with the Radiance of the god force ( love force) Just one more Question. 
 
 What is RV, Kone?

Eagle , the presentation is good and with now some added information getting better.

I am still trying to line up the sweet-spots on the North side of some ring magnets.Compass dip on rotation does not seem to be working. I have some more ideas to try and then use a neutral washer which I understand must be the same dimensions as the magnets. Then on to extract the radiant energy. Also have some other things on the go such as aquachi.
Any other tips? Pearls?

I do have I tip - The reading between the lines is fine. Maybe with be a bit less harsh wording you can get a larger buy-in. Some have thicker skins than others but this has nothing to do with talent.Just saying, Poking fun etc may get attention and results but -sometimes seems a bit overkill. 

Lorne




    On Thursday, July 25, 2019, 4:33:49 p.m. PDT, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     

Lorne, Smokey John Berry et alThese 3 guys are some who have read my re-education attempts on several other forums over the last 12 or so years. The JoeCell Forums and the ORMUS/orme forums.
Them would be alchemists are the most hard headed of them ALL.
The JoeCellers were preprogrammed with them stupid ORGONE theories of Con Stevens and Job's Shiffliers Experimenters Guide to JoeCells making them VERY closed minded to the Science of the Universe.
So tell us in your own opinion, Lorne, Smokey and John.....How did the presentation and reception go this time?
Is this group worth Upwising?

Did you remember how one manufactures the Neutral Washer avoiding adding new Polarity to the washer which is BAD??
 Both OD and ID have to be larger than the ring mag by at least a mill. Its them spiraling energy fields of Russells not them Mechanical water swirlers of dan winters. The junction of the Spirals is where expansion and compression of Russell becomes the Neutral Centre or his inert gas at the centre of each octave. 

 The washer becomes the Neutral Centre as either the centre of expansion or the centre of compression. as in N to N or Sth to Sth. 

 Obtuse enough?   The problem I have is Joe already knows I have given too  much of his IP away.... And he doesnt need to read it as he sees it in my aura the next visit. But the good thing is most here reject it so I am spared the wrath of plagiarism. 

 

 What should we do about Mich's " a suppression agent," or Warren pointing Troll??? 

 Ignore them hoping they will go away or will they ever be Upwised?
 Or do we need them to fuel further debate for the casting of more pearls... their negativity can be useful yes?

What i see is  just a bunch of manipulative disinformation experts leading people into useless red herrings and stealing whatever useful thing there is in this forum and patenting it .....

This forum needs a cleansing ,,,


(H) 

 
 

---In [email protected], <eagleseeone@...> wrote :

 Now that we know the difference between RV energy and Radiant Energy, from a theoretical point of view. That concludes our Primary school level of Water Science. We still have higher levels of learning to go.
  
 For the question of what RV is, the answer of Boat Anchor isnt quite right. RV is a useful tool to understanding one side of the Opposite and Equal of Energy. When Joe finally gave me the green light to Radiant Energy promotion, some 15 years of teaching experiments I had to recall. Tis unfortunate I am his only Apprentice and if you ask Joe about a lesson from a decade ago. Man you get blasted for hours with the most amazing ‘science’ the world has ever seen. But I digress.
  
 Tesla didnt broadcast electrons without wires. His wireless transmission of energy didnt transmit DC or AC or anything you have ever 'made' with magnets and coils. His Wardenclyffe Tower had a NEUTRAL CENTRE at the Top to radiate energy, broadcasting to that which was sympathetic to its frequency. Things on 60 Hertz.
  
 The PEARL I CASTE was how to make an RV into a Radiant Energy device. But the mindset of some couldnt get past how the Pearl was caste amongst you. A Radiant Energy device can be as small as a pin point inside a capacitor or better yet a crystal (alien of course) transistor or as large as Louie the Fly's Lutech 2000 generator. http://free-energy.ws/lutec/ http://free-energy.ws/lutec/  But you really know Zero point when you realize some one made Earths and Galaxies with one at their centre too. Silver works best in this pin head size Neutral Centre Radiant Energy electrical component model, But we haven’t got past spinning magnets here on Evgray. A pin head Radiant Energy device will power an apartment block.
  
 For those who want to progress past Hectors RV performance rating or his Fish bowl Primary school level Water Energizer, I remind readers again on how we made the Lutech 2000 into a radiant Energy Device, up from the “Standard tech” (as Joe Calls it) of an RV device. Joe took his Neutral Washer/twin magnet,  (Synchronicity of Coincidence to use Keely’s words.) and applied it to the Shaft of the Motor giving the “out of the Box RV motor” a Neutral Centre and the potential to generate Radiant Energy the best such a barbaric Out of the Box RV device can give.
  
 Just image if you could design a Radiant Energy Motor… would it look something like the SS/FP motor? What happened to ALL of Tesla’s motor winding diagrams for his last 40 years? SS? FP? Seems no one can find out much about them can they? I remember when Joe first showed me one more than a decade ago. He pointed out how they work on 4.5 volts(?) are 3 phase and how the controller wasn’t required to make them ‘produce’ as he called it.
  
 I do not have time to con anyone. What I write about I know intimately and have seen it work or repaired a working model or helped in its construction. Mostly all three. If you doubt what I write you are not seeing the Pearl I present. The only Fun I get from this Fundamental presentation is knocking the nay Sayers.
  
 The Pearl I caste was in the historical understanding of the importance of the Neutral Centre for Radiant Energy. I gave several examples of how its constructed by washers and Magnets, non-electrified Neutral Plates in a Water Joe cell, the FP Motor Circuitry as obtuse as I could and some of the many uses and products one can make with Radiant Cold Fusion Zero point Aetheric based Electrical Energy. Like COW Shit to Fresh water. (Prince Kareem of Dubai saw that one whilst Black helicopters flew overhead) Water into Oil, Salt into fresh, Healing bath waters. A Norm Memory Bucket (named in honor of his contribution to this disclosure) and a twin magnet motor just for those who read and didn’t spam such monumental disclosures.
  
 So actually I failed miserably with this Class as I had to repeat myself so many times that it aint FUN poking fun at the nay sayers anymore.
  
 Sparking peoples curiosity with radiant energy can be done in many ways. Flashing the 3rd Eye with a Baghdad Battery is but one.

No ....... NASA has got " just a bunch of manipulative disinformation experts leading people into useless red herrings and stealing whatever useful thing there is" covered better.
 https://augenguy.blogspot.com/2019/07/one-small-step-for-man.html https://augenguy.blogspot.com/2019/07/one-small-step-for-man.html

 

 But Norm takes the cake with furthering the belief in all thats wrong.
 

 Just so you know what real dis-info is Hector... your BS meter is a Drag.... as is your Eddy current.

 

 And on that moon month disinfo anniversary 

 

 https://www.quora.com/How-many-photos-were-taken-on-the-surface-of-the-moon-during-the-six-Apollo-missions https://www.quora.com/How-many-photos-were-taken-on-the-surface-of-the-moon-during-the-six-Apollo-missions
 

 cant be done...
 Apollo 11........one photo every 15 seconds
Apollo 12........one photo every 27 seconds
Apollo 14........one photo every 62 seconds
Apollo 15........one photo every 44 seconds
Apollo 16........one photo every 29 seconds
Apollo 17........one photo every 26 seconds

 

 Hector just grow up and grow a brain.... Is getting knocked off your perch that painful?

 Perhaps more fishbowl water will help.  hahahaha f^*king haha

OleWe are working on it as fast as we can!My friend Mike has put two Nissan Leaf motors, one front, and one rear, to drive his Volkswagon 1.5 ton truck.He is currently visiting Hadley in Nova Scotia, to see his flywheel self run.I have just received a diode bridge made by a man in Alaska, that has a self running 100 watt incandescent bulb running off a six foot length of Romex, house wiring cable.He has been extremely kind, and generous, with helping me make a successful replication of his working device.He is coming out of left field, as it were, with using isotopic resonance, inherent to the copper metal. His work seems to be highly original, and represents a decade of careful experiments.I now have a complete apparatus, now, that his diode array has arrived.I will begin testing as soon as possible.There are no instruments for this field, except this apparatus, which, in fact, may, indeed,  be the testing detector for this energy.He lights a 100 watt incandescent light bulb, which seems to be an encouraging amount of wattage, for doing something useful.In my version of the apparatus, I have added two additional Edison based sockets, and have clear filament bulbs ranging from 100 watts, 40 watts, and 25 watts, to explore this energy, should I find it.This is high Summer, in Ontario, work is happening feverishly on the barn building projects.We have house guests staying with us, relatives visiting, as well as friends coming from various parts of the continent, to enjoy the rural beauty of the season.Did I say, I am launching a boat I have been building within three weeks?The Samsung motor project is hanging fire, awaiting development of a controller board.The experiments are long shots, into strange, and unfamiliar territory.That is why they are experiments. The outcomes are totally unpredictable, except for the personalities, and integrity, of the fellow researchers, who share, and inspire, and that includes you, Ole.Cheers Warren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu., 25 Jul. 2019 at 8:09 p.m., [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Hector and Warren,

You're right. I just forgot the DC measurements probably after seeing to many bad measurements all around. The ultimate proof is making it self-run though. Over here where fossil fuel will be phased out we do need alternatives. Solar and wind power seems to be alright for the grid. But alternatives are needed for transport. Battery cars are still developing. Wouldn't it be much nicer to make the energy needed to run a car on board the car instead of having to charge batteries?!

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <arkresearch@...> wrote :



Even at the start when the claims of power factor , misreadings in AC and all other skeptic shit 
,what i told experimenters is exactly what you did Pure DC in from a battery and amp reading 

Pure DC out and amp readings , that is a no bullshit low tech way of testing in any experiment if you have OVERUNITY !

And you also had posted this same thing here a million times and apart from some DONE the experiments and got results , wile as i have told some insist to dive cavity deep into the bulls ass
and savor every drop of bullshit they can get ! and experiment on nothing , do nothing and only bother the shit out of those that do ! 

Thanks 



   

---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

OleAlthough my instruments were unsophisticated, I am fairly sure my measurements were correct, running my RV putting 1.5 amps at 12 volts DC into an inverter, getting 120 volts out, then RV running it through the capacitor circuit, in series to the primary of a multi tap transformer, then to a rectifier to get 12 volts DC, which I then ran a DC motor( an electric outboard trolling motor, for use with a small boat) which drew 2.5 and at the brushes.I measured both with digital and scientific analog volt meters, and am meters.( They agreed)Just as another reality check, I was only running off a 5 amp gel cell battery,which one rarely can perform miracles with.Oh! An interesting aside:I connected a Rene charger to the 24 volt tap of that series connected transformer. Then rectified it, to run the Rene.I was unable to measure any additional load on the primary battery even while charging several 12 volt gel cell 5 amp. batteries at once. It gets one thinking.....?Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 

 

On Thu., 25 Jul. 2019 at 7:26 a.m., onielsen@... [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 
Hi MerLynn,

"What is RV, Kone?"

RV is abbreviation for RotoVerter or rotating converter. Hector power factor corrects the induction motor (asynchronous motor) to get rid of the reactive power. Reactive power does nothing but heats the windings and transmission lines because the current still has to run in the wires. The current creates resistive power loss in metallic conductors. Resistive loss (i^2 x R) is active power being dissipated as heat. There are claims of even making RVs self-running when forming a loop with a generator. This hasn't been satisfactory scientifically proven yet to my knowledge. Hector has the same problem as you have in getting others to replicate and deliver proof of the concept. Most measurements done on the rotoverter is done with simple instruments only showing voltage and current. What would be interesting to see is the power like active and reactive power and the direction of the power. That would tell about the power and thus energy. I.e. energy is power integrated along time.

Power measurements require more advanced instruments making it more expensive. When the voltage and current are sine curves the power factor can be measured with three separate meters (http://www.giangrandi.ch/electronics/cosphi/cosphi.shtml). One instrument will suffice if the power is stable by taking the measurements at the different points in different times. Knowing the power factor makes it possible to calculate the active and reactive parts of the power.

Regards
Ole



---In [email protected], <eagleseeone@...> wrote :

Yes you are absolutely correct oneil. 
There are no poor students only poor teachers.
But when you have a class who think they know it all already but really cant think outside the fish bowl. Whats a guy gonna do? 
Then the LAW of acceptance manifests as Ridicule, Violent rejection that made poor kone act like cowporn and i can only ask..... Are we there yet with accepting it as self evident?

If we are there now..., i actually did a pretty good job. 

But just to check how well i reprogrammed false marbles with the Radiance of the god force ( love force) Just one more Question. 

What is RV, Kone?


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Hi Smokey,

The video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRqZnKqKj04 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRqZnKqKj04) looks very fake. There are many videos made the same way and even some demonstrating how they do the trick. If looking very carefully there are two hair thin wires leading to some power source not seen. Look carefully at the two white spots imarked to follow the wires. This guy's channel has lots of free energy videos. Must be his hobby: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5QsW5oHau40D3UrdHy1YSw/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5QsW5oHau40D3UrdHy1YSw/videos.


The attached document looks very good though. It has information that I haven't seen before. Still reading.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <smokey9s@...> wrote :

 Hello Lynn,
 You are doing well and your theories are most appreciated although I do not see water quite as you do at this time.

 What your presentations are a catalyst for is to create further research by the reader leading to a better understanding of 'Energy Synthesis' after Eric Dollard (free energy, overunity, zero point energy) which is what we are supposedly all here for.
 Your motor stator with the transformer inside is similar to my TEG (Torsional Energy Generator aka TPU after Steven Mark) which I expect to be OU as the concept uses rotating magnetic fields after Tesla.
 

 I would wish here that EV Gray experimenters remove themselves from ancient physical rotating machinery and look into developing non physical rotating magnetic fields and this can be done with the right equipment as I am doing with the TEG.
 See attached.

 Three rotating magnetic fields at 120º apart with another coil pulsing at three times the frequency and all set up with 'Intelligent Design' (Wayne Thompson - 'Measuring System Of The Gods' - Vedic Math) meaning that a design base distance of 108 mm is the fundamental used, 108 - 216 - 432 ~ 1080 etc. Ring bells?
 Corporations secretly know about these attachments, why don't we?

 

 I am using Vacuum Tubes and NOT solid state as all that does is take you further away from any OU possibility and the presence of a plasma and as Keely has added, atomoles.
 

 I am looking at many videos currently of coil/magnet devices that are capable of lighting a lamp and find this most interesting as it simply has not been shown before how a non moving magnet can actually create energy to feed a 12v lamp:
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRqZnKqKj04 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRqZnKqKj04
 

 Keep up with the information as it is being utilised here where I do have a Laboratory and the required tools to experiment but is damn difficult at the moment due to home down sizing. You must also realise by now that 99% of members here only have a keyboard and that is a hurdle you cannot overcome.
 Thanks.
 

 Smokey

 
 On 26/07/2019 9:33 am, eagleseeone@... mailto:eagleseeone@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Lorne, Smokey John Berry et al
 These 3 guys are some who have read my re-education attempts on several other forums over the last 12 or so years. The JoeCell Forums and the ORMUS/orme forums.
 

 Them would be alchemists are the most hard headed of them ALL.
 

 The JoeCellers were preprogrammed with them stupid ORGONE theories of Con Stevens and Job's Shiffliers Experimenters Guide to JoeCells making them VERY closed minded to the Science of the Universe.
 

 So tell us in your own opinion, Lorne, Smokey and John.....
 How did the presentation and reception go this time?
 

 Is this group worth Upwising?

Hi Warren,

"There are no instruments for this field, except this apparatus, which, in fact, may, indeed,  be the testing detector for this energy."
Is it not electromagnetic fields that can be detected with existing instruments? If not so we just have to make new types of instruments fit for the job just like they did in the childhood of the electricity era. Perhaps the old way using frog legs as detectors that Galvani used isn't the way. But If it can make a lamp light this shows that energy is converted which is a way to detect the energy. Light can be transformed into yet other detectable energies.

Some questions to solve:
Is the device totally decoupled or detached from any house wiring? Are there no inductive and capacitive couplings? Does it work in a screened box like in a closed metal box etc.?

Does the device emit EM radiation requiring a screened room for experimenting to prevent disturbing radio bands? Or put in another way will it pass EMC regulations.

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

 Ole We are working on it as fast as we can!
 My friend Mike has put two Nissan Leaf motors, one front, and one rear, to drive his Volkswagon 1.5 ton truck.
 He is currently visiting Hadley in Nova Scotia, to see his flywheel self run.
 I have just received a diode bridge made by a man in Alaska, that has a self running 100 watt incandescent bulb running off a six foot length of Romex, house wiring cable.
 He has been extremely kind, and generous, with helping me make a successful replication of his working device.
 He is coming out of left field, as it were, with using isotopic resonance, inherent to the copper metal. His work seems to be highly original, and represents a decade of careful experiments.
 I now have a complete apparatus, now, that his diode array has arrived.
 I will begin testing as soon as possible.
 There are no instruments for this field, except this apparatus, which, in fact, may, indeed,  be the testing detector for this energy.
 He lights a 100 watt incandescent light bulb, which seems to be an encouraging amount of wattage, for doing something useful.
 In my version of the apparatus, I have added two additional Edison based sockets, and have clear filament bulbs ranging from 100 watts, 40 watts, and 25 watts, to explore this energy, should I find it.
 This is high Summer, in Ontario, work is happening feverishly on the barn building projects.
 We have house guests staying with us, relatives visiting, as well as friends coming from various parts of the continent, to enjoy the rural beauty of the season.
 Did I say, I am launching a boat I have been building within three weeks?
 The Samsung motor project is hanging fire, awaiting development of a controller board.
 The experiments are long shots, into strange, and unfamiliar territory.
 That is why they are experiments. 
 The outcomes are totally unpredictable, except for the personalities, and integrity, of the fellow researchers, who share, and inspire, and that includes you, Ole.
 Cheers Warren

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 On Thu., 25 Jul. 2019 at 8:09 p.m., onielsen@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:
 
   Hi Hector and Warren,

You're right. I just forgot the DC measurements probably after seeing to many bad measurements all around. The ultimate proof is making it self-run though. Over here where fossil fuel will be phased out we do need alternatives. Solar and wind power seems to be alright for the grid. But alternatives are needed for transport. Battery cars are still developing. Wouldn't it be much nicer to make the energy needed to run a car on board the car instead of having to charge batteries?!

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <arkresearch@...> wrote :


 
 Even at the start when the claims of power factor , misreadings in AC and all other skeptic shit 
,what i told experimenters is exactly what you did Pure DC in from a battery and amp reading 

Pure DC out and amp readings , that is a no bullshit low tech way of testing in any experiment if you have OVERUNITY !

And you also had posted this same thing here a million times and apart from some DONE the experiments and got results , wile as i have told some insist to dive cavity deep into the bulls ass
and savor every drop of bullshit they can get ! and experiment on nothing , do nothing and only bother the shit out of those that do ! 

Thanks 



   

---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

 Ole Although my instruments were unsophisticated, I am fairly sure my measurements were correct, running my RV putting 1.5 amps at 12 volts DC into an inverter, getting 120 volts out, then RV running it through the capacitor circuit, in series to the primary of a multi tap transformer, then to a rectifier to get 12 volts DC, which I then ran a DC motor( an electric outboard trolling motor, for use with a small boat) which drew 2.5 and at the brushes.
 I measured both with digital and scientific analog volt meters, and am meters.( They agreed)
 Just as another reality check, I was only running off a 5 amp gel cell battery,
 which one rarely can perform miracles with.
 Oh! An interesting aside:
 I connected a Rene charger to the 24 volt tap of that series connected transformer. Then rectified it, to run the Rene.
 I was unable to measure any additional load on the primary battery even while charging several 12 volt gel cell 5 amp. batteries at once. 
 It gets one thinking.....?
 Cheers Warren
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 On Thu., 25 Jul. 2019 at 7:26 a.m., onielsen@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   Hi MerLynn,

"What is RV, Kone?"

RV is abbreviation for RotoVerter or rotating converter. Hector power factor corrects the induction motor (asynchronous motor) to get rid of the reactive power. Reactive power does nothing but heats the windings and transmission lines because the current still has to run in the wires. The current creates resistive power loss in metallic conductors. Resistive loss (i^2 x R) is active power being dissipated as heat. There are claims of even making RVs self-running when forming a loop with a generator. This hasn't been satisfactory scientifically proven yet to my knowledge. Hector has the same problem as you have in getting others to replicate and deliver proof of the concept. Most measurements done on the rotoverter is done with simple instruments only showing voltage and current. What would be interesting to see is the power like active and reactive power and the direction of the power. That would tell about the power and thus energy. I.e. energy is power integrated along time.

Power measurements require more advanced instruments making it more expensive. When the voltage and current are sine curves the power factor can be measured with three separate meters (http://www.giangrandi.ch/electronics/cosphi/cosphi.shtml http://www.giangrandi.ch/electronics/cosphi/cosphi.shtml). One instrument will suffice if the power is stable by taking the measurements at the different points in different times. Knowing the power factor makes it possible to calculate the active and reactive parts of the power.

Regards
Ole

 

---In [email protected], <eagleseeone@...> wrote :

 Yes you are absolutely correct oneil. 
 There are no poor students only poor teachers.
 But when you have a class who think they know it all already but really cant think outside the fish bowl. Whats a guy gonna do? 
 Then the LAW of acceptance manifests as Ridicule, Violent rejection that made poor kone act like cowporn and i can only ask..... Are we there yet with accepting it as self evident?
 
 If we are there now..., i actually did a pretty good job. 
 
 But just to check how well i reprogrammed false marbles with the Radiance of the god force ( love force) Just one more Question. 
 
 What is RV, Kone?

The message only made it halfway. Here it is again with the picture attached.

Hi Smokey,

The video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRqZnKqKj04 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRqZnKqKj04) looks very fake. There are many videos made the same way and even some demonstrating how they do the trick. If looking very carefully there are two hair thin wires leading to some power source not seen. Look carefully at the two white spots imarked to follow the wires. This guy's channel has lots of free energy videos. Must be his hobby: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5QsW5oHau40D3UrdHy1YSw/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5QsW5oHau40D3UrdHy1YSw/videos.


The attached document looks very good though. It has information that I haven't seen before. Still reading.

Regards
Ole 

---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :

 Hi Smokey,

The video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRqZnKqKj04 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRqZnKqKj04) looks very fake. There are many videos made the same way and even some demonstrating how they do the trick. If looking very carefully there are two hair thin wires leading to some power source not seen. Look carefully at the two white spots imarked to follow the wires. This guy's channel has lots of free energy videos. Must be his hobby: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5QsW5oHau40D3UrdHy1YSw/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5QsW5oHau40D3UrdHy1YSw/videos.