Sweet spot

DougI hope you can see the simple apparatus and arrangement I put together to try to find that sweet spot on the rpm range on my other email.The rpm was quite high compared to any bicycle wheel speeds, one could ever reach.I may well of travelled through the correct speed ande not known it since I was just doing a machinery check out. In storage, snow had gotten into the golden motor and it was seized up, so I had to take it apart, clean it, lube it, and put it back together.I thought I better check it out today doing a full speed run using a little load, a 40 watt incandescent  light bulb, and see how fast it could go.
The range is good but needs a bigger variac, like my 30 amp, that I never consider load with, until I have to carry it across the barn yard in the snow.I have learned my lesson not to be lazy.Cheers Warren
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Warren,

You may want to limit the voltage going to the variac with some GDT's
and use the excess the charge caps as the spikes from the magneto effect
can cause enough voltage to punch through the varnish on your variac
autoformer.
These devices are not designed for voltages above the dielectric
breakdown which can be a couple thousand volts, not at all hard to reach
specially if switching the little motor through fast speed changes or
switching the output by shorting the coils.  Current capacity may have
little to do with it as it does not sound as if you had a load beyond
the ability of the first autoformer.

On 3/6/2019 6:30 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Doug
>
> I hope you can see the simple apparatus and arrangement I put together
> to try to find that sweet spot on the rpm range on my other email.
> The rpm was quite high compared to any bicycle wheel speeds, one could
> ever reach.
> I may well of travelled through the correct speed ande not known it
> since I was just doing a machinery check out. In storage, snow had
> gotten into the golden motor and it was seized up, so I had to take it
> apart, clean it, lube it, and put it back together.
> I thought I better check it out today doing a full speed run using a
> little load, a 40 watt incandescent  light bulb, and see how fast it
> could go.
> The range is good but needs a bigger variac, like my 30 amp, that I
> never consider load with, until I have to carry it across the barn
> yard in the snow.
> I have learned my lesson not to be lazy.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>

Warren is the term Golden motor a term that just you use or is it that name
in general ? Oh thinks for the 150 watt motor tip .

On Thursday, March 7, 2019, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Warren,
>
> You may want to limit the voltage going to the variac with some GDT's and
> use the excess the charge caps as the spikes from the magneto effect can
> cause enough voltage to punch through the varnish on your variac autoformer.
> These devices are not designed for voltages above the dielectric breakdown
> which can be a couple thousand volts, not at all hard to reach specially if
> switching the little motor through fast speed changes or switching the
> output by shorting the coils.  Current capacity may have little to do with
> it as it does not sound as if you had a load beyond the ability of the
> first autoformer.
> On 3/6/2019 6:30 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> Doug
> I hope you can see the simple apparatus and arrangement I put together to
> try to find that sweet spot on the rpm range on my other email.
> The rpm was quite high compared to any bicycle wheel speeds, one could
> ever reach.
> I may well of travelled through the correct speed ande not known it since
> I was just doing a machinery check out. In storage, snow had gotten into
> the golden motor and it was seized up, so I had to take it apart, clean it,
> lube it, and put it back together.
> I thought I better check it out today doing a full speed run using a
> little load, a 40 watt incandescent  light bulb, and see how fast it could
> go.
> The range is good but needs a bigger variac, like my 30 amp, that I never
> consider load with, until I have to carry it across the barn yard in the
> snow.
> I have learned my lesson not to be lazy.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> 
>

JamesThe "Golden motor" is a Chinese made bicycle hub motor, Found in a yacht club bulk hopper, and given to me without the controller as there was none, by a fellow sailor, very interested in my experiments.Looking them up on Google, there is lots of material about them, and they seem popular.It is three phase and very much in the same camp as the Samsung which is waiting for me in Toronto.
Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 12:43 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Warren is the term Golden motor a term that just you use or is it that name in general ? Oh thinks for the 150 watt motor tip . 

On Thursday, March 7, 2019, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:


     
 

Warren,
 
You may want to limit the voltage going to the variac with some GDT's and use the excess the charge caps as the spikes from the magneto effect can cause enough voltage to punch through the varnish on your variac autoformer.
 These devices are not designed for voltages above the dielectric breakdown which can be a couple thousand volts, not at all hard to reach specially if switching the little motor through fast speed changes or switching the output by shorting the coils.  Current capacity may have little to do with it as it does not sound as if you had a load beyond the ability of the first autoformer.
 
 On 3/6/2019 6:30 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Doug
 I hope you can see the simple apparatus and arrangement I put together to try to find that sweet spot on the rpm range on my other email. The rpm was quite high compared to any bicycle wheel speeds, one could ever reach. I may well of travelled through the correct speed ande not known it since I was just doing a machinery check out. In storage, snow had gotten into the golden motor and it was seized up, so I had to take it apart, clean it, lube it, and put it back together. I thought I better check it out today doing a full speed run using a little load, a 40 watt incandescent  light bulb, and see how fast it could go.
 The range is good but needs a bigger variac, like my 30 amp, that I never consider load with, until I have to carry it across the barn yard in the snow. I have learned my lesson not to be lazy. Cheers Warren
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android   
 

   
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Oh I was wondering what up! .that's cool! You know that bedini style 4 inch
rotor motor is interesting but I'd just do the first unit because .of
misinformation going around if it lives up to claims well that's different .

On Thursday, March 7, 2019, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> James
> The "Golden motor" is a Chinese made bicycle hub motor, Found in a yacht
> club bulk hopper, and given to me without the controller as there was none,
> by a fellow sailor, very interested in my experiments.
> Looking them up on Google, there is lots of material about them, and they
> seem popular.
> It is three phase and very much in the same camp as the Samsung which is
> waiting for me in Toronto.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 12:43 PM, James Glinski [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Warren is the term Golden motor a term that just you use or is it that
> name in general ? Oh thinks for the 150 watt motor tip .
>
> On Thursday, March 7, 2019, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Warren,
>
> You may want to limit the voltage going to the variac with some GDT's and
> use the excess the charge caps as the spikes from the magneto effect can
> cause enough voltage to punch through the varnish on your variac autoformer.
> These devices are not designed for voltages above the dielectric breakdown
> which can be a couple thousand volts, not at all hard to reach specially if
> switching the little motor through fast speed changes or switching the
> output by shorting the coils.  Current capacity may have little to do with
> it as it does not sound as if you had a load beyond the ability of the
> first autoformer.
> On 3/6/2019 6:30 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> Doug
> I hope you can see the simple apparatus and arrangement I put together to
> try to find that sweet spot on the rpm range on my other email.
> The rpm was quite high compared to any bicycle wheel speeds, one could
> ever reach.
> I may well of travelled through the correct speed ande not known it since
> I was just doing a machinery check out. In storage, snow had gotten into
> the golden motor and it was seized up, so I had to take it apart, clean it,
> lube it, and put it back together.
> I thought I better check it out today doing a full speed run using a
> little load, a 40 watt incandescent  light bulb, and see how fast it could
> go.
> The range is good but needs a bigger variac, like my 30 amp, that I never
> consider load with, until I have to carry it across the barn yard in the
> snow.
> I have learned my lesson not to be lazy.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> 
>

I found out what's causing all or most of the failures with don't smiths
work .its the latent capacitance and induction in the resistors and caps he
said some resistors are better caps ! So when you've done your math and
really got it right .and go and invert athe proper resistor .you change the
numbers due to the hidden capacitance and induction .and fail ..its an
invisible problem that you must deal with .at radio frequency these thins
happen .so it looks like the slide the coil into the coil trick would be a
go self tuning ..and you know your there when you get a lot of sparks all
of a sudden .

On Thursday, March 7, 2019, James Glinski <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh I was wondering what up! .that's cool! You know that bedini style 4
> inch rotor motor is interesting but I'd just do the first unit because .of
> misinformation going around if it lives up to claims well that's different .
>
> On Thursday, March 7, 2019, Warren Keillor [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> James
>> The "Golden motor" is a Chinese made bicycle hub motor, Found in a yacht
>> club bulk hopper, and given to me without the controller as there was none,
>> by a fellow sailor, very interested in my experiments.
>> Looking them up on Google, there is lots of material about them, and they
>> seem popular.
>> It is three phase and very much in the same camp as the Samsung which is
>> waiting for me in Toronto.
>> Cheers Warren
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>> On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 12:43 PM, James Glinski [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Warren is the term Golden motor a term that just you use or is it that
>> name in general ? Oh thinks for the 150 watt motor tip .
>>
>> On Thursday, March 7, 2019, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Warren,
>>
>> You may want to limit the voltage going to the variac with some GDT's and
>> use the excess the charge caps as the spikes from the magneto effect can
>> cause enough voltage to punch through the varnish on your variac autoformer.
>> These devices are not designed for voltages above the dielectric
>> breakdown which can be a couple thousand volts, not at all hard to reach
>> specially if switching the little motor through fast speed changes or
>> switching the output by shorting the coils.  Current capacity may have
>> little to do with it as it does not sound as if you had a load beyond the
>> ability of the first autoformer.
>> On 3/6/2019 6:30 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Doug
>> I hope you can see the simple apparatus and arrangement I put together to
>> try to find that sweet spot on the rpm range on my other email.
>> The rpm was quite high compared to any bicycle wheel speeds, one could
>> ever reach.
>> I may well of travelled through the correct speed ande not known it since
>> I was just doing a machinery check out. In storage, snow had gotten into
>> the golden motor and it was seized up, so I had to take it apart, clean it,
>> lube it, and put it back together.
>> I thought I better check it out today doing a full speed run using a
>> little load, a 40 watt incandescent  light bulb, and see how fast it could
>> go.
>> The range is good but needs a bigger variac, like my 30 amp, that I never
>> consider load with, until I have to carry it across the barn yard in the
>> snow.
>> I have learned my lesson not to be lazy.
>> Cheers Warren
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>> 
>>
>