Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Gary Porter looper ready to bideo lnk

Warren, a couple month ago i asked for definition of your phrase ,

For this, put a bridge rectifier of 1000 volts, AC legs ' DOWN ACROSS ' the brushes, sending the DC out to somewhere useful, solving the brush burnout.

but you did't had time back then to answer every stupid question, maybe now is a good time
to say what  'down ACROSS  the brushes' means? Thanks.

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On Sat, 1/26/19, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Gary Porter looper ready to bideo lnk
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
 Received: Saturday, January 26, 2019, 2:37 PM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       MickI
 have found the same DC motor able to go from 100 rpm to
 10.000, if the balance, and bearings, are good.
 You may get a minor furnace at the brushes, at
 higher voltages though.For
 this, put a bridge rectifier of 1000 volts, AC legs down
 across the brushes, sending the DC out to somewhere useful,
 solving the brush burnout.Cheers
 Warren
 Sent
 from Yahoo Mail on Android 
    On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 3:00
 PM, Mick [email protected]
 [EVGRAY]<[email protected]>
 wrote:   
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       
   
   
     Hector, 
 
     
     What
 speed DC motor works really well for this 1800, 3600?  and
       are higher voltage motors any better than the lower
 voltage, or
       vis versa?  
 
       Lets say if the end game is building something serious
 but
       somewhat compact and reliable with enough output to
 get one under
       some serious surveillance.
     I imagine the higher the RPM the less necessary
 larger caps.
 
     
     On 1/26/2019 12:26 PM,
       [email protected]
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
     
     
       
        
       
           
             
 
               Have the capacitor charge and at its null
 neutral
               discharge it with the non reflecting diode
 plug method ,
               say for 9 phases 18 diodes , 18 capacitors and
 18 trigger
               scr switches.
 
               
 
               remember that i had given this in segments
 each segment
               has specific applications and effects .
 
               
 
               assemble them and you have year 2500 ZPE
 technology .
 
               
 
               list of basic things, way to capture an RE
 signal and
               transfer it to a JOULE potential as a dc
 voltage in a
               capacitor.  
 
               
 
               Way to discharge this potential with no
 reflection to
               source ..
 
               
 
               relate to Normans neutral spike and you have
 it all ! 
 
               
 
               OU is transformation taking energy from one
 domain and
               converting it to another .
 
               
 
                
 
               
 
               (H)  
 
               
 
               ---In [email protected],
               <schoonersolsticemoon@...>
 wrote :
 
               
 
             
             Hector
               Is
                 it then better to rectify the AC as soon as
 it is made
                 at the coil, so that it can be combined as a
 high
                 current DC, with the product of the other
 coils in
                 parallel?
               Buffering
                 this in a capacitor, then inverting it, if
 one wants AC,
                 that can be then changed to the voltage
 output, one may
                 want?
               The
                 trick is to have a simple stupid
 
                 Inverter that has no brain that shuts it
 off, when high,
                 or low signals, are recieved, due to
 fluctuations in the
                 power.
               I
                 used deep cycle 6 volt batteries, instead of
 a
                 capacitor, but would rather not, if possible
 to replace
                 them.
               The
                 do seem to suck up any signal coming to
 them, though,
                 and make it tame.
               Cheers
                 Warren
 
                 Sent
 from Yahoo Mail on
                     Android
                 
 
                 
                     
                       
                         On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 7:13 AM,
                           arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]
                         <[email protected]>
 wrote:
                       
                       
                         
                           
                              
                             
                               
                                 
                                   
 
                                     In RV triple flux
 capacitor was used
                                     to excite alternator
 
                                     ,rectified at WYE center
 to get DC 
 
                                     
 
                                     
 
                                     
 
                                     
 
                                     
 
                                      in multi phase WYE DC
 motor 
 
                                     you have an 3x3 flux
 impedance (9
                                     coils) within a common
 WYE center  .
 
                                     
 
                                     can use 9 capacitors 18
 diode
                                     bridge  to play ...use
 40 phases
                                     make that 40 caps
 
                                     80 diode bridge to dc
 conversion
                                     adding the 40 coil
 shorting gates to
                                     the coils  . 
 
                                     
 
                                     
 
                                     (H)
 
                                     
 
                                     
 
                                     
 
                                     ---In [email protected],
                                     <mkjekyll@...>
 wrote :
 
                                     
 
                                   
                                   
                                     Hi Ole,
                                     Why u instead of V?
 
 
                                       Yes the inductor is a
 current
                                       source and acts as a
 current
                                       flywheel, good
 metaphor.  
 
                                       
 
                                       Can you explain the
 fabled flux
                                       capacitor of Faraday
 and what may
                                       indeed be considered
 as such if
                                       one uses plasma states
 for
                                       instance?  
 
                                     
                                     On
                                       1/25/2019 1:33 PM, onielsen@...
                                       [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
                                     
                                      
                                         
                                         
                                           Hi Norman,
 Mick,
 
                                             
 
                                             "...a
                                                 reverse
 current is being
                                                 induced into
 the iron
                                                 core coil
 with the
                                                 reverse
 polarity."
 
                                             The current
 continues in the
                                             same direction
 while the
                                             voltage or
 tension changes
                                             sign. The
 current can't be
                                             stopped or
 having its
                                             direction
 changed in a jump
                                             as it is always
 continuous.
                                             It would be like
 immediately
                                             stopping or
 changing the
                                             direction of a
 running
                                             flywheel. The
 force required
                                             or given off is
 like the
                                             voltage when
 speaking coils.
                                             The voltage or
 force will be
                                             of infinite size
 if the
                                             change happens
 in an
                                             instant. The
 current starts
                                             decreasing from
 whatever
                                             value it has at
 the
                                             disruption. Only
 how fast is
                                             related to the
 size of the
                                             induced voltage
 (u = L x
                                             di/dt) where u
 is the
                                             voltage, L is
 the inductance
                                             of the coil, i
 is the
                                             current and t is
 time. di/dt
                                             is the slope of
 the current.
 
                                             
 
                                             Regards
 
                                             Ole
 
                                             
 
                                             
 
                                             ---In [email protected],
                                             <nwootan@...>
                                             wrote :
 
                                             
 
                                           
                                           
                                             Mick, first
 envision a
                                               North-South
 magnetic poles
                                               embedded in
 flywheel. When
                                               the
 North-South magnets
                                               bridge the
 first two poles
                                               of the stator
 (rotation) a
                                               forward going
 current is
                                               induced into
 iron core
                                               coil and at
 same time
                                               charges up
 condenser to
                                               max. Important
 note here
                                               is that the
 impedance of
                                               coil is LC
 matched to the
                                               value of the
 condenser.  
                                               When the
 North-South
                                               magnets move
 over to the
                                               middle and
 last poles,
                                               breaker points
 open and at
                                               same time a
 reverse
                                               current is
 being induced
                                               into the iron
 core coil
                                               with the
 reverse polarity,
                                               the condenser
 discharges
                                               through coil
 windings to
                                               frame ground.
 With the
                                               condenser
 being charged
                                               via the
 forward going
                                               current, 1st
 step, when it
                                               discharges
 into coil a
                                               reverse
 current is being
                                               induced by
 moving magnets.
                                               In effect you
 have
                                               opposing
 currents,
                                               opposite
 polarity,
                                              
 (BUCKING-OPPOSED)  which
                                               cause a
 miniature magnetic
                                               flux
 annihilation event
                                               and a
 MAGNETO-ELECTRIC,
                                               micro EMP
 event. That is
                                               the reason the
 old
                                               magnetos had
 such a
                                               powerful spark
 even when
                                               you turned
 them by hand at
                                               super low
 RPM.    I worked
                                               on thousands
 of them on my
                                               magneto test
 bench.  Norm
 
                                             
                                             On
                                               1/25/2019 9:20
 AM, Mick mkjekyll@...
                                               [EVGRAY]
 wrote:
 
                                             
                                            
  
                                                 
                                                 
                                                    
                                                  
 Norm,
                                                   So this
 is the same
                                                     effect
 from the 3
                                                     pole
 magneto you
                                                     showed
 us, when the
                                                     cap
 discharges
                                                     during
 the
                                                    
 collapsing flyback
                                                     pulse
 and compresses
                                                     the
 delta?
                                                   Were
 three poles
                                                     used in
 parallel in
                                                     order to
 make sure
                                                     the iron
 was fully
                                                    
 saturated even at
                                                     low
 speed in the old
                                                    
 magneto?
 
                                                   
                                                   On
                                                    
 1/25/2019 9:35 AM,
                                                     Norman
 Wootan nwootan@...
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
                                                   
                                                  
   
                                                     
                                                       
 
                                                      
 Your quote,
                                                         feed
 it a
                                                        
 reverse
                                                        
 potential as
                                                        
 voltage is
                                                        
 maximal peaking
                                                         and
 you have a
                                                        
 mother of an EMP
                                                        
 neutral spike on
                                                         your
 hands
                                                        
 !      
                                                        
 Yeeeeeeaaaaah! 
                                                        
 Hector my
                                                        
 friend, you got
                                                         it
 exactly
                                                        
 right. In all my
                                                        
 experience with
                                                         old
 time
                                                        
 magnetos, this
                                                         is
 exactly how
                                                         the
 conderser
                                                        
 discharge
                                                        
 through the
                                                        
 primary windings
                                                        
 happens with
                                                        
 reverse
                                                        
 polarity.  Bang,
                                                         you
 get a sharp
                                                        
 crack spark
                                                        
 discharge in the
                                                        
 bright blue wave
                                                        
 lengths.  Not a
                                                        
 measily  orange
                                                        
 spark without
                                                         any
 zip to it. 
                                                         The
 5HP
                                                        
 compressor, EMP
                                                         test
 I did works
                                                         this
 way.
 
                                                       
                                                       On
                                                        
 1/25/2019 6:35
                                                         AM,
 arkresearch@...
                                                        
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
                                                       
                                                      
   
                                                         
                                                          
 If you
                                                          
 short a coil
                                                          
 current
                                                          
 becomes
                                                          
 maximal
                                                          
 voltage stays
                                                          
 lag at zero
                                                          
 upon max core
                                                          
 saturation ,
                                                          
 then at short
                                                          
 cut off
                                                          
 ,voltage
                                                          
 becomes
                                                          
 leading and
                                                          
 maximal as
                                                          
 current drop
                                                           to
 zero ...
                                                          
 basic RF
                                                          
 neutral spike
                                                          
 dynamics !
 
                                                          
 
 
                                                          
 feed it a
                                                          
 reverse
                                                          
 potential as
                                                          
 voltage is
                                                          
 maximal
                                                          
 peaking and
                                                          
 you have a
                                                          
 mother of an
                                                          
 EMP neutral
                                                          
 spike on your
                                                          
 hands !  
 
                                                          
 
 
                                                          
 (H)   other
                                                          
 methods are
                                                          
 applicable ,,,
                                                          
 rotary is best
                                                          
 for simplicity
                                                           ,
 
 
                                                          
 
 
                                                          
 
 
                                                          
 
 
                                                          
 
 
                                                          
 
                                                          
 
 
                                                          
 
 
                                                          
 ---In [email protected],
                                                           <konehead@...>
                                                          
 wrote :
 
                                                          
 
 
                                                          
 Hi
                                                          
 Mick
 
                                                          
 "would require
                                                          
 shorting to
                                                          
 saturate the
                                                          
 core from
                                                          
 passing a
                                                          
 magnet"
 
                                                          
 Did you mean:
 
                                                          
 "would require
                                                          
 shorting to
                                                          
 saturate the
                                                          
 core from a
                                                          
 passing
                                                          
 magnet" ?
 
                                                           I
 don't know
                                                          
 something
                                                          
 else?
 
                                                          
 Also wouldn't
                                                           a
 shorted coil
                                                          
 become rf
                                                          
 transmitter
                                                          
 not so much an
                                                          
 antenna?
 
                                                          
 Anyways still
                                                          
 confused but
                                                          
 just half way
                                                          
 confused now..
 
                                                          
 Kone
                                                          
 
                                                        
 
                                                      
 
                                                     
                                                  
 
                                                 
                                               
                                             
                                           
                                         
                                       
                                     
                                   
                                 
                               
                             
                           
                         
                       
                     
                   
               
             
           
           
       
       
       
       
     
   
 
 
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
  
 
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
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Hi Jakob
Across the brushes means across the dc motor brush assembly. Basically no matter what sort of switching the dc motor has, you put it across the motor coil switch.
So AC leg at in of brushes, then the other AC leg at out of brushes. Some dc motors with brushes will have a diode in windings to work as a spike suppression diode and this diode should be removed if you want to pull out spike into external capacitor, or run 2nd motor with dc of fwbr  in Warren's case.
Kone

Ole can you look at this please it's in German
It's about a break through in power generation by voltage increase .reminds
me of the don Smith power curve volts verses frequency .but with out the
frequency . thanks Jim

On Saturday, January 26, 2019, Jakob Wall [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Warren, a couple month ago i asked for definition of your phrase ,
>
> For this, put a bridge rectifier of 1000 volts, AC legs ' DOWN ACROSS '
> the brushes, sending the DC out to somewhere useful, solving the brush
> burnout.
>
> but you did't had time back then to answer every stupid question, maybe
> now is a good time
> to say what 'down ACROSS the brushes' means? Thanks.
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sat, 1/26/19, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Gary Porter looper ready to bideo lnk
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Received: Saturday, January 26, 2019, 2:37 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> MickI
> have found the same DC motor able to go from 100 rpm to
> 10.000, if the balance, and bearings, are good.
> You may get a minor furnace at the brushes, at
> higher voltages though.For
> this, put a bridge rectifier of 1000 volts, AC legs down
> across the brushes, sending the DC out to somewhere useful,
> solving the brush burnout.Cheers
> Warren
> Sent
> from Yahoo Mail on Android
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 3:00
> PM, Mick [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hector,
>
>
> What
> speed DC motor works really well for this 1800, 3600?  and
> are higher voltage motors any better than the lower
> voltage, or
> vis versa?
>
> Lets say if the end game is building something serious
> but
> somewhat compact and reliable with enough output to
> get one under
> some serious surveillance.
> I imagine the higher the RPM the less necessary
> larger caps.
>
>
> On 1/26/2019 12:26 PM,
> [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Have the capacitor charge and at its null
> neutral
> discharge it with the non reflecting diode
> plug method ,
> say for 9 phases 18 diodes , 18 capacitors and
> 18 trigger
> scr switches.
>
>
>
> remember that i had given this in segments
> each segment
> has specific applications and effects .
>
>
>
> assemble them and you have year 2500 ZPE
> technology .
>
>
>
> list of basic things, way to capture an RE
> signal and
> transfer it to a JOULE potential as a dc
> voltage in a
> capacitor.
>
>
>
> Way to discharge this potential with no
> reflection to
> source ..
>
>
>
> relate to Normans neutral spike and you have
> it all !
>
>
>
> OU is transformation taking energy from one
> domain and
> converting it to another .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> (H)
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected],
> <schoonersolsticemoon@...>
> wrote :
>
>
>
>
> Hector
> Is
> it then better to rectify the AC as soon as
> it is made
> at the coil, so that it can be combined as a
> high
> current DC, with the product of the other
> coils in
> parallel?
> Buffering
> this in a capacitor, then inverting it, if
> one wants AC,
> that can be then changed to the voltage
> output, one may
> want?
> The
> trick is to have a simple stupid
>
> Inverter that has no brain that shuts it
> off, when high,
> or low signals, are recieved, due to
> fluctuations in the
> power.
> I
> used deep cycle 6 volt batteries, instead of
> a
> capacitor, but would rather not, if possible
> to replace
> them.
> The
> do seem to suck up any signal coming to
> them, though,
> and make it tame.
> Cheers
> Warren
>
> Sent
> from Yahoo Mail on
> Android
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 7:13 AM,
> arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In RV triple flux
> capacitor was used
> to excite alternator
>
> ,rectified at WYE center
> to get DC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  in multi phase WYE DC
> motor
>
> you have an 3x3 flux
> impedance (9
> coils) within a common
> WYE center  .
>
>
>
> can use 9 capacitors 18
> diode
> bridge  to play ...use
> 40 phases
> make that 40 caps
>
> 80 diode bridge to dc
> conversion
> adding the 40 coil
> shorting gates to
> the coils  .
>
>
>
>
>
> (H)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected],
> <mkjekyll@...>
> wrote :
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Ole,
> Why u instead of V?
>
>
> Yes the inductor is a
> current
> source and acts as a
> current
> flywheel, good
> metaphor.
>
>
>
> Can you explain the
> fabled flux
> capacitor of Faraday
> and what may
> indeed be considered
> as such if
> one uses plasma states
> for
> instance?
>
>
> On
> 1/25/2019 1:33 PM, onielsen@...
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Norman,
> Mick,
>
>
>
> "...a
> reverse
> current is being
> induced into
> the iron
> core coil
> with the
> reverse
> polarity."
>
> The current
> continues in the
> same direction
> while the
> voltage or
> tension changes
> sign. The
> current can't be
> stopped or
> having its
> direction
> changed in a jump
> as it is always
> continuous.
> It would be like
> immediately
> stopping or
> changing the
> direction of a
> running
> flywheel. The
> force required
> or given off is
> like the
> voltage when
> speaking coils.
> The voltage or
> force will be
> of infinite size
> if the
> change happens
> in an
> instant. The
> current starts
> decreasing from
> whatever
> value it has at
> the
> disruption. Only
> how fast is
> related to the
> size of the
> induced voltage
> (u = L x
> di/dt) where u
> is the
> voltage, L is
> the inductance
> of the coil, i
> is the
> current and t is
> time. di/dt
> is the slope of
> the current.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Ole
>
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected],
> <nwootan@...>
> wrote :
>
>
>
>
>
> Mick, first
> envision a
> North-South
> magnetic poles
> embedded in
> flywheel. When
> the
> North-South magnets
> bridge the
> first two poles
> of the stator
> (rotation) a
> forward going
> current is
> induced into
> iron core
> coil and at
> same time
> charges up
> condenser to
> max. Important
> note here
> is that the
> impedance of
> coil is LC
> matched to the
> value of the
> condenser.
> When the
> North-South
> magnets move
> over to the
> middle and
> last poles,
> breaker points
> open and at
> same time a
> reverse
> current is
> being induced
> into the iron
> core coil
> with the
> reverse polarity,
> the condenser
> discharges
> through coil
> windings to
> frame ground.
> With the
> condenser
> being charged
> via the
> forward going
> current, 1st
> step, when it
> discharges
> into coil a
> reverse
> current is being
> induced by
> moving magnets.
> In effect you
> have
> opposing
> currents,
> opposite
> polarity,
>
> (BUCKING-OPPOSED)  which
> cause a
> miniature magnetic
> flux
> annihilation event
> and a
> MAGNETO-ELECTRIC,
> micro EMP
> event. That is
> the reason the
> old
> magnetos had
> such a
> powerful spark
> even when
> you turned
> them by hand at
> super low
> RPM.    I worked
> on thousands
> of them on my
> magneto test
> bench.  Norm
>
>
> On
> 1/25/2019 9:20
> AM, Mick mkjekyll@...
> [EVGRAY]
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Norm,
> So this
> is the same
> effect
> from the 3
> pole
> magneto you
> showed
> us, when the
> cap
> discharges
> during
> the
>
> collapsing flyback
> pulse
> and compresses
> the
> delta?
> Were
> three poles
> used in
> parallel in
> order to
> make sure
> the iron
> was fully
>
> saturated even at
> low
> speed in the old
>
> magneto?
>
>
> On
>
> 1/25/2019 9:35 AM,
> Norman
> Wootan nwootan@...
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your quote,
> feed
> it a
>
> reverse
>
> potential as
>
> voltage is
>
> maximal peaking
> and
> you have a
>
> mother of an EMP
>
> neutral spike on
> your
> hands
>
> !
>
> Yeeeeeeaaaaah!
>
> Hector my
>
> friend, you got
> it
> exactly
>
> right. In all my
>
> experience with
> old
> time
>
> magnetos, this
> is
> exactly how
> the
> conderser
>
> discharge
>
> through the
>
> primary windings
>
> happens with
>
> reverse
>
> polarity.  Bang,
> you
> get a sharp
>
> crack spark
>
> discharge in the
>
> bright blue wave
>
> lengths.  Not a
>
> measily  orange
>
> spark without
> any
> zip to it.
> The
> 5HP
>
> compressor, EMP
> test
> I did works
> this
> way.
>
>
> On
>
> 1/25/2019 6:35
> AM,
> arkresearch@...
>
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If you
>
> short a coil
>
> current
>
> becomes
>
> maximal
>
> voltage stays
>
> lag at zero
>
> upon max core
>
> saturation ,
>
> then at short
>
> cut off
>
> ,voltage
>
> becomes
>
> leading and
>
> maximal as
>
> current drop
> to
> zero ...
>
> basic RF
>
> neutral spike
>
> dynamics !
>
>
>
>
>
> feed it a
>
> reverse
>
> potential as
>
> voltage is
>
> maximal
>
> peaking and
>
> you have a
>
> mother of an
>
> EMP neutral
>
> spike on your
>
> hands !
>
>
>
>
>
> (H)   other
>
> methods are
>
> applicable ,,,
>
> rotary is best
>
> for simplicity
> ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected],
> <konehead@...>
>
> wrote :
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> Mick
>
>
> "would require
>
> shorting to
>
> saturate the
>
> core from
>
> passing a
>
> magnet"
>
>
> Did you mean:
>
>
> "would require
>
> shorting to
>
> saturate the
>
> core from a
>
> passing
>
> magnet" ?
>
> I
> don't know
>
> something
>
> else?
>
>
> Also wouldn't
> a
> shorted coil
>
> become rf
>
> transmitter
>
> not so much an
>
> antenna?
>
>
> Anyways still
>
> confused but
>
> just half way
>
> confused now..
>
>
> Kone
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Sorry a blond moment the link
http://www.rz-innovatec.com/leistungsgewinn_3918467.html

On Saturday, January 26, 2019, James Glinski <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ole can you look at this please it's in German
> It's about a break through in power generation by voltage increase
> .reminds me of the don Smith power curve volts verses frequency .but with
> out the frequency . thanks Jim
>
> On Saturday, January 26, 2019, Jakob Wall [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Warren, a couple month ago i asked for definition of your phrase ,
>>
>> For this, put a bridge rectifier of 1000 volts, AC legs ' DOWN ACROSS '
>> the brushes, sending the DC out to somewhere useful, solving the brush
>> burnout.
>>
>> but you did't had time back then to answer every stupid question, maybe
>> now is a good time
>> to say what 'down ACROSS the brushes' means? Thanks.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Sat, 1/26/19, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Gary Porter looper ready to bideo lnk
>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Received: Saturday, January 26, 2019, 2:37 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> MickI
>> have found the same DC motor able to go from 100 rpm to
>> 10.000, if the balance, and bearings, are good.
>> You may get a minor furnace at the brushes, at
>> higher voltages though.For
>> this, put a bridge rectifier of 1000 volts, AC legs down
>> across the brushes, sending the DC out to somewhere useful,
>> solving the brush burnout.Cheers
>> Warren
>> Sent
>> from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 3:00
>> PM, Mick [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY]<[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hector,
>>
>>
>> What
>> speed DC motor works really well for this 1800, 3600?  and
>> are higher voltage motors any better than the lower
>> voltage, or
>> vis versa?
>>
>> Lets say if the end game is building something serious
>> but
>> somewhat compact and reliable with enough output to
>> get one under
>> some serious surveillance.
>> I imagine the higher the RPM the less necessary
>> larger caps.
>>
>>
>> On 1/26/2019 12:26 PM,
>> [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Have the capacitor charge and at its null
>> neutral
>> discharge it with the non reflecting diode
>> plug method ,
>> say for 9 phases 18 diodes , 18 capacitors and
>> 18 trigger
>> scr switches.
>>
>>
>>
>> remember that i had given this in segments
>> each segment
>> has specific applications and effects .
>>
>>
>>
>> assemble them and you have year 2500 ZPE
>> technology .
>>
>>
>>
>> list of basic things, way to capture an RE
>> signal and
>> transfer it to a JOULE potential as a dc
>> voltage in a
>> capacitor.
>>
>>
>>
>> Way to discharge this potential with no
>> reflection to
>> source ..
>>
>>
>>
>> relate to Normans neutral spike and you have
>> it all !
>>
>>
>>
>> OU is transformation taking energy from one
>> domain and
>> converting it to another .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> (H)
>>
>>
>>
>> ---In [email protected],
>> <schoonersolsticemoon@...>
>> wrote :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hector
>> Is
>> it then better to rectify the AC as soon as
>> it is made
>> at the coil, so that it can be combined as a
>> high
>> current DC, with the product of the other
>> coils in
>> parallel?
>> Buffering
>> this in a capacitor, then inverting it, if
>> one wants AC,
>> that can be then changed to the voltage
>> output, one may
>> want?
>> The
>> trick is to have a simple stupid
>>
>> Inverter that has no brain that shuts it
>> off, when high,
>> or low signals, are recieved, due to
>> fluctuations in the
>> power.
>> I
>> used deep cycle 6 volt batteries, instead of
>> a
>> capacitor, but would rather not, if possible
>> to replace
>> them.
>> The
>> do seem to suck up any signal coming to
>> them, though,
>> and make it tame.
>> Cheers
>> Warren
>>
>> Sent
>> from Yahoo Mail on
>> Android
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 7:13 AM,
>> arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In RV triple flux
>> capacitor was used
>> to excite alternator
>>
>> ,rectified at WYE center
>> to get DC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  in multi phase WYE DC
>> motor
>>
>> you have an 3x3 flux
>> impedance (9
>> coils) within a common
>> WYE center  .
>>
>>
>>
>> can use 9 capacitors 18
>> diode
>> bridge  to play ...use
>> 40 phases
>> make that 40 caps
>>
>> 80 diode bridge to dc
>> conversion
>> adding the 40 coil
>> shorting gates to
>> the coils  .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> (H)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---In [email protected],
>> <mkjekyll@...>
>> wrote :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Ole,
>> Why u instead of V?
>>
>>
>> Yes the inductor is a
>> current
>> source and acts as a
>> current
>> flywheel, good
>> metaphor.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can you explain the
>> fabled flux
>> capacitor of Faraday
>> and what may
>> indeed be considered
>> as such if
>> one uses plasma states
>> for
>> instance?
>>
>>
>> On
>> 1/25/2019 1:33 PM, onielsen@...
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Norman,
>> Mick,
>>
>>
>>
>> "...a
>> reverse
>> current is being
>> induced into
>> the iron
>> core coil
>> with the
>> reverse
>> polarity."
>>
>> The current
>> continues in the
>> same direction
>> while the
>> voltage or
>> tension changes
>> sign. The
>> current can't be
>> stopped or
>> having its
>> direction
>> changed in a jump
>> as it is always
>> continuous.
>> It would be like
>> immediately
>> stopping or
>> changing the
>> direction of a
>> running
>> flywheel. The
>> force required
>> or given off is
>> like the
>> voltage when
>> speaking coils.
>> The voltage or
>> force will be
>> of infinite size
>> if the
>> change happens
>> in an
>> instant. The
>> current starts
>> decreasing from
>> whatever
>> value it has at
>> the
>> disruption. Only
>> how fast is
>> related to the
>> size of the
>> induced voltage
>> (u = L x
>> di/dt) where u
>> is the
>> voltage, L is
>> the inductance
>> of the coil, i
>> is the
>> current and t is
>> time. di/dt
>> is the slope of
>> the current.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Ole
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---In [email protected],
>> <nwootan@...>
>> wrote :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mick, first
>> envision a
>> North-South
>> magnetic poles
>> embedded in
>> flywheel. When
>> the
>> North-South magnets
>> bridge the
>> first two poles
>> of the stator
>> (rotation) a
>> forward going
>> current is
>> induced into
>> iron core
>> coil and at
>> same time
>> charges up
>> condenser to
>> max. Important
>> note here
>> is that the
>> impedance of
>> coil is LC
>> matched to the
>> value of the
>> condenser.
>> When the
>> North-South
>> magnets move
>> over to the
>> middle and
>> last poles,
>> breaker points
>> open and at
>> same time a
>> reverse
>> current is
>> being induced
>> into the iron
>> core coil
>> with the
>> reverse polarity,
>> the condenser
>> discharges
>> through coil
>> windings to
>> frame ground.
>> With the
>> condenser
>> being charged
>> via the
>> forward going
>> current, 1st
>> step, when it
>> discharges
>> into coil a
>> reverse
>> current is being
>> induced by
>> moving magnets.
>> In effect you
>> have
>> opposing
>> currents,
>> opposite
>> polarity,
>>
>> (BUCKING-OPPOSED)  which
>> cause a
>> miniature magnetic
>> flux
>> annihilation event
>> and a
>> MAGNETO-ELECTRIC,
>> micro EMP
>> event. That is
>> the reason the
>> old
>> magnetos had
>> such a
>> powerful spark
>> even when
>> you turned
>> them by hand at
>> super low
>> RPM.    I worked
>> on thousands
>> of them on my
>> magneto test
>> bench.  Norm
>>
>>
>> On
>> 1/25/2019 9:20
>> AM, Mick mkjekyll@...
>> [EVGRAY]
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Norm,
>> So this
>> is the same
>> effect
>> from the 3
>> pole
>> magneto you
>> showed
>> us, when the
>> cap
>> discharges
>> during
>> the
>>
>> collapsing flyback
>> pulse
>> and compresses
>> the
>> delta?
>> Were
>> three poles
>> used in
>> parallel in
>> order to
>> make sure
>> the iron
>> was fully
>>
>> saturated even at
>> low
>> speed in the old
>>
>> magneto?
>>
>>
>> On
>>
>> 1/25/2019 9:35 AM,
>> Norman
>> Wootan nwootan@...
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Your quote,
>> feed
>> it a
>>
>> reverse
>>
>> potential as
>>
>> voltage is
>>
>> maximal peaking
>> and
>> you have a
>>
>> mother of an EMP
>>
>> neutral spike on
>> your
>> hands
>>
>> !
>>
>> Yeeeeeeaaaaah!
>>
>> Hector my
>>
>> friend, you got
>> it
>> exactly
>>
>> right. In all my
>>
>> experience with
>> old
>> time
>>
>> magnetos, this
>> is
>> exactly how
>> the
>> conderser
>>
>> discharge
>>
>> through the
>>
>> primary windings
>>
>> happens with
>>
>> reverse
>>
>> polarity.  Bang,
>> you
>> get a sharp
>>
>> crack spark
>>
>> discharge in the
>>
>> bright blue wave
>>
>> lengths.  Not a
>>
>> measily  orange
>>
>> spark without
>> any
>> zip to it.
>> The
>> 5HP
>>
>> compressor, EMP
>> test
>> I did works
>> this
>> way.
>>
>>
>> On
>>
>> 1/25/2019 6:35
>> AM,
>> arkresearch@...
>>
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If you
>>
>> short a coil
>>
>> current
>>
>> becomes
>>
>> maximal
>>
>> voltage stays
>>
>> lag at zero
>>
>> upon max core
>>
>> saturation ,
>>
>> then at short
>>
>> cut off
>>
>> ,voltage
>>
>> becomes
>>
>> leading and
>>
>> maximal as
>>
>> current drop
>> to
>> zero ...
>>
>> basic RF
>>
>> neutral spike
>>
>> dynamics !
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> feed it a
>>
>> reverse
>>
>> potential as
>>
>> voltage is
>>
>> maximal
>>
>> peaking and
>>
>> you have a
>>
>> mother of an
>>
>> EMP neutral
>>
>> spike on your
>>
>> hands !
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> (H)   other
>>
>> methods are
>>
>> applicable ,,,
>>
>> rotary is best
>>
>> for simplicity
>> ,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---In [email protected],
>> <konehead@...>
>>
>> wrote :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Mick
>>
>>
>> "would require
>>
>> shorting to
>>
>> saturate the
>>
>> core from
>>
>> passing a
>>
>> magnet"
>>
>>
>> Did you mean:
>>
>>
>> "would require
>>
>> shorting to
>>
>> saturate the
>>
>> core from a
>>
>> passing
>>
>> magnet" ?
>>
>> I
>> don't know
>>
>> something
>>
>> else?
>>
>>
>> Also wouldn't
>> a
>> shorted coil
>>
>> become rf
>>
>> transmitter
>>
>> not so much an
>>
>> antenna?
>>
>>
>> Anyways still
>>
>> confused but
>>
>> just half way
>>
>> confused now..
>>
>>
>> Kone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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JakobOn a bridge rectifier chip there are two AC "legs" or wires coming out, the other two are the full wave rectified DC + - Putting the ac across the two brush wires of a dc motor, can capture the
Power that usually manifests itself as the blue arc at the brushes, and allow it to be sent on, to do useful work, like power yet another dc motor.Diode bridge rectifiers are cheap and very useful components to have a little drawer full of, for general needs in our experiments.Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 5:45 PM, Jakob Wall [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Warren, a couple month ago i asked for definition of your phrase ,

For this, put a bridge rectifier of 1000 volts, AC legs ' DOWN ACROSS ' the brushes, sending the DC out to somewhere useful, solving the brush burnout.

but you did't had time back then to answer every stupid question, maybe now is a good time
to say what 'down ACROSS the brushes' means? Thanks.

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 1/26/19, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Gary Porter looper ready to bideo lnk
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
 Received: Saturday, January 26, 2019, 2:37 PM
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 MickI
 have found the same DC motor able to go from 100 rpm to
 10.000, if the balance, and bearings, are good.
 You may get a minor furnace at the brushes, at
 higher voltages though.For
 this, put a bridge rectifier of 1000 volts, AC legs down
 across the brushes, sending the DC out to somewhere useful,
 solving the brush burnout.Cheers
 Warren
 Sent
 from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 3:00
 PM, Mick [email protected]
 [EVGRAY]<[email protected]>
 wrote: 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Hector, 
 
 
 What
 speed DC motor works really well for this 1800, 3600?  and
 are higher voltage motors any better than the lower
 voltage, or
 vis versa?  
 
 Lets say if the end game is building something serious
 but
 somewhat compact and reliable with enough output to
 get one under
 some serious surveillance.
 I imagine the higher the RPM the less necessary
 larger caps.
 
 
 On 1/26/2019 12:26 PM,
 [email protected]
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 Have the capacitor charge and at its null
 neutral
 discharge it with the non reflecting diode
 plug method ,
 say for 9 phases 18 diodes , 18 capacitors and
 18 trigger
 scr switches.
 
 
 
 remember that i had given this in segments
 each segment
 has specific applications and effects .
 
 
 
 assemble them and you have year 2500 ZPE
 technology .
 
 
 
 list of basic things, way to capture an RE
 signal and
 transfer it to a JOULE potential as a dc
 voltage in a
 capacitor.  
 
 
 
 Way to discharge this potential with no
 reflection to
 source ..
 
 
 
 relate to Normans neutral spike and you have
 it all ! 
 
 
 
 OU is transformation taking energy from one
 domain and
 converting it to another .
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 (H) 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected],
 <schoonersolsticemoon@...>
 wrote :
 
 
 
 
 Hector
 Is
 it then better to rectify the AC as soon as
 it is made
 at the coil, so that it can be combined as a
 high
 current DC, with the product of the other
 coils in
 parallel?
 Buffering
 this in a capacitor, then inverting it, if
 one wants AC,
 that can be then changed to the voltage
 output, one may
 want?
 The
 trick is to have a simple stupid
 
 Inverter that has no brain that shuts it
 off, when high,
 or low signals, are recieved, due to
 fluctuations in the
 power.
 I
 used deep cycle 6 volt batteries, instead of
 a
 capacitor, but would rather not, if possible
 to replace
 them.
 The
 do seem to suck up any signal coming to
 them, though,
 and make it tame.
 Cheers
 Warren
 
 Sent
 from Yahoo Mail on
 Android
 
 
 
 
 
 On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 7:13 AM,
 arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 In RV triple flux
 capacitor was used
 to excite alternator
 
 ,rectified at WYE center
 to get DC 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  in multi phase WYE DC
 motor 
 
 you have an 3x3 flux
 impedance (9
 coils) within a common
 WYE center  .
 
 
 
 can use 9 capacitors 18
 diode
 bridge  to play ...use
 40 phases
 make that 40 caps
 
 80 diode bridge to dc
 conversion
 adding the 40 coil
 shorting gates to
 the coils  . 
 
 
 
 
 
 (H)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected],
 <mkjekyll@...>
 wrote :
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi Ole,
 Why u instead of V?
 
 
 Yes the inductor is a
 current
 source and acts as a
 current
 flywheel, good
 metaphor.  
 
 
 
 Can you explain the
 fabled flux
 capacitor of Faraday
 and what may
 indeed be considered
 as such if
 one uses plasma states
 for
 instance?  
 
 
 On
 1/25/2019 1:33 PM, onielsen@...
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 
 
  
 
 Hi Norman,
 Mick,
 
 
 
 "...a
 reverse
 current is being
 induced into
 the iron
 core coil
 with the
 reverse
 polarity."
 
 The current
 continues in the
 same direction
 while the
 voltage or
 tension changes
 sign. The
 current can't be
 stopped or
 having its
 direction
 changed in a jump
 as it is always
 continuous.
 It would be like
 immediately
 stopping or
 changing the
 direction of a
 running
 flywheel. The
 force required
 or given off is
 like the
 voltage when
 speaking coils.
 The voltage or
 force will be
 of infinite size
 if the
 change happens
 in an
 instant. The
 current starts
 decreasing from
 whatever
 value it has at
 the
 disruption. Only
 how fast is
 related to the
 size of the
 induced voltage
 (u = L x
 di/dt) where u
 is the
 voltage, L is
 the inductance
 of the coil, i
 is the
 current and t is
 time. di/dt
 is the slope of
 the current.
 
 
 
 Regards
 
 Ole
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected],
 <nwootan@...>
 wrote :
 
 
 
 
 
 Mick, first
 envision a
 North-South
 magnetic poles
 embedded in
 flywheel. When
 the
 North-South magnets
 bridge the
 first two poles
 of the stator
 (rotation) a
 forward going
 current is
 induced into
 iron core
 coil and at
 same time
 charges up
 condenser to
 max. Important
 note here
 is that the
 impedance of
 coil is LC
 matched to the
 value of the
 condenser.  
 When the
 North-South
 magnets move
 over to the
 middle and
 last poles,
 breaker points
 open and at
 same time a
 reverse
 current is
 being induced
 into the iron
 core coil
 with the
 reverse polarity,
 the condenser
 discharges
 through coil
 windings to
 frame ground.
 With the
 condenser
 being charged
 via the
 forward going
 current, 1st
 step, when it
 discharges
 into coil a
 reverse
 current is being
 induced by
 moving magnets.
 In effect you
 have
 opposing
 currents,
 opposite
 polarity,
 
 (BUCKING-OPPOSED)  which
 cause a
 miniature magnetic
 flux
 annihilation event
 and a
 MAGNETO-ELECTRIC,
 micro EMP
 event. That is
 the reason the
 old
 magnetos had
 such a
 powerful spark
 even when
 you turned
 them by hand at
 super low
 RPM.    I worked
 on thousands
 of them on my
 magneto test
 bench.  Norm
 
 
 On
 1/25/2019 9:20
 AM, Mick mkjekyll@...
 [EVGRAY]
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 Norm,
 So this
 is the same
 effect
 from the 3
 pole
 magneto you
 showed
 us, when the
 cap
 discharges
 during
 the
 
 collapsing flyback
 pulse
 and compresses
 the
 delta?
 Were
 three poles
 used in
 parallel in
 order to
 make sure
 the iron
 was fully
 
 saturated even at
 low
 speed in the old
 
 magneto?
 
 
 On
 
 1/25/2019 9:35 AM,
 Norman
 Wootan nwootan@...
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 Your quote,
 feed
 it a
 
 reverse
 
 potential as
 
 voltage is
 
 maximal peaking
 and
 you have a
 
 mother of an EMP
 
 neutral spike on
 your
 hands
 
 !      
 
 Yeeeeeeaaaaah! 
 
 Hector my
 
 friend, you got
 it
 exactly
 
 right. In all my
 
 experience with
 old
 time
 
 magnetos, this
 is
 exactly how
 the
 conderser
 
 discharge
 
 through the
 
 primary windings
 
 happens with
 
 reverse
 
 polarity.  Bang,
 you
 get a sharp
 
 crack spark
 
 discharge in the
 
 bright blue wave
 
 lengths.  Not a
 
 measily  orange
 
 spark without
 any
 zip to it. 
 The
 5HP
 
 compressor, EMP
 test
 I did works
 this
 way.
 
 
 On
 
 1/25/2019 6:35
 AM,
 arkresearch@...
 
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 
 
  
 
 
 If you
 
 short a coil
 
 current
 
 becomes
 
 maximal
 
 voltage stays
 
 lag at zero
 
 upon max core
 
 saturation ,
 
 then at short
 
 cut off
 
 ,voltage
 
 becomes
 
 leading and
 
 maximal as
 
 current drop
 to
 zero ...
 
 basic RF
 
 neutral spike
 
 dynamics !
 
 
 
 
 
 feed it a
 
 reverse
 
 potential as
 
 voltage is
 
 maximal
 
 peaking and
 
 you have a
 
 mother of an
 
 EMP neutral
 
 spike on your
 
 hands !  
 
 
 
 
 
 (H)   other
 
 methods are
 
 applicable ,,,
 
 rotary is best
 
 for simplicity
 ,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected],
 <konehead@...>
 
 wrote :
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 Mick
 
 
 "would require
 
 shorting to
 
 saturate the
 
 core from
 
 passing a
 
 magnet"
 
 
 Did you mean:
 
 
 "would require
 
 shorting to
 
 saturate the
 
 core from a
 
 passing
 
 magnet" ?
 
 I
 don't know
 
 something
 
 else?
 
 
 Also wouldn't
 a
 shorted coil
 
 become rf
 
 transmitter
 
 not so much an
 
 antenna?
 
 
 Anyways still
 
 confused but
 
 just half way
 
 confused now..
 
 
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Kone, I have found Shottky diodes to be the only type that turn RF to DC
so this makes sense. Also MOSFETS I am sure the gallium arsenide  or
perhaps better the gallium nitride ones should also be tested for
efficacy against the silicon versions.  These things can switch ungodly
fast and may be able to harvest some higher frequencies we may be
missing.  We are still locked below the magic bandwidths with our
archaic tech of the terraherz region.  Once here we can effectively
modify DNA with advanced software.

On 1/27/2019 3:30 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Jakob
> Also if you put a very fast shottky type diode onto one of those AC
> legs, before the fwbr it will make better recovery...this is Hector trick
> Kone
>
>

Hi Jakob
Also if you put a very fast shottky type diode onto one of those AC legs, before the fwbr it will make better recovery...this is Hector trick
Kone

Jakob, DougYes the shottky diode is a good idea, though if you are already supplying the dc to a motor with a bridge rectifier, be sure to alternate the + and - side of the rectifier, to harvest the arc from the second rectifier only.Hector's single Shottky is easier, to begin with, as it will block the input  dc from interfering with the experiment, by going right through the rectifiers.Cheers Warren

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  On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 3:31 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Jakob
Also if you put a very fast shottky type diode onto one of those AC legs, before the fwbr it will make better recovery...this is Hector trick
Kone
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Hi James,

There is not enough information to tell what this is. It could be just a scam for selling something. Voltage increase can be done with a simple transformer or a boost converter. Current increase can also be done by using a transformer or by using a buck converter.

Regards
Ole
 

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   Sorry a blond moment the link      http://www.rz-innovatec.com/leistungsgewinn_3918467.html http://www.rz-innovatec.com/leistungsgewinn_3918467.html

  
 On Saturday, January 26, 2019, James Glinski <jglinski01@... mailto:jglinski01@...> wrote:
 Ole can you look at this please it's in German  It's about a break through in power generation by voltage increase .reminds me of the don Smith power curve volts verses frequency .but with out the frequency . thanks Jim 
...

Hi Warren 
That dhotyky is the first thing that any backspike will hit and be rectified by...which AC leg of fwbr  it connects to is whichever gives most voltage into cap so try both legs.
..intetestinvg to alternate the DC side  fwbr polarities never thought of that !
Speaking of fwbr bridge rectifiets, RomeroUK used two for each generator coil positoon...we tried this in germany, it was 13v with one fwbr, 20v with two!!
Just double them up surround 4 diodes with another four, the AC in and DC out in parallel...so 8 diodes totsl...
I am wondering if RomeroUK perhaps ran the second outer fwbr into an adjacent generator coil in his Looper to get some motor effect into that adjacent coil also maybe run the dc back into same generator coil the first fwbr the inner fwbr is also ovefr...something to tryy...beat Lenz by recycling a overwhelming dc motor force ...with 8magnets and 9 coils one of those coils must have the  timing to make a motor effect...
Kone

DougRemember when I tried to replicate my experiment with that first daisy chain success with the ten big motors, trying to use toy dc motors? The second test was a dud.It just didn't work with the toy motors.All these years later, that has puzzled me. I think I now get it.For the toy motors, I made up a lovely sensible neat assembly of full wave bridge rectifiers. However, there just could have been the vital flaw in my design allowing a free flow of dc through from my dc source, right through the bridges, and all, totally screwing up my input output results, defeating the magic from the arcs and sparks, leaving boring old Lenz's law, yet again.Cheers Warren

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  On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 10:39 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Warren 
That dhotyky is the first thing that any backspike will hit and be rectified by...which AC leg of fwbr it connects to is whichever gives most voltage into cap so try both legs.
...intetestinvg to alternate the DC side fwbr polarities never thought of that !
Speaking of fwbr bridge rectifiets, RomeroUK used two for each generator coil positoon...we tried this in germany, it was 13v with one fwbr, 20v with two!!
Just double them up surround 4 diodes with another four, the AC in and DC out in parallel...so 8 diodes totsl...
I am wondering if RomeroUK perhaps ran the second outer fwbr into an adjacent generator coil in his Looper to get some motor effect into that adjacent coil also maybe run the dc back into same generator coil the first fwbr the inner fwbr is also ovefr...something to tryy...beat Lenz by recycling a overwhelming dc motor force ...with 8magnets and 9 coils one of those coils must have the timing to make a motor effect...
Kone
 
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Hi Warren
Could be, that is very briliant! You need to do it all again to confirm it for prosperity.
Kone

DougYes I do!The stone barn heating system is now functioning.At first, while it was -22C it was a bitch getting that 5" concrete slab
above ambiant.I was burning the scrap wood taken from the big barn repairs at a horrific pace. The resistance elements were in the header tank were full on. The heat pump was finally actually running, after an hour long telephone talk with the teckies regarding software programming of the four button key pad while freezing hands on, in the barn.The floor is a toasty 70F now.The woodstove is not needed, nor are the resistance elements to that domestic hot water tank being used as a header tank for the liquid heated floor. The air to liquid heat pump is a success after all.I was impatient to see magic instantly, after the months of hard work.It was just too big of a mass to do any instant on, or off crap.It works! And that is a big relief.Now back to electricityA ten foot long melamine topped catering table came with the property. It is perfect for laying out the dc motors in a neat arrangement for the next daisy chain experiment, all in a row.The small barn has a gymnasium sized upstairs nice wooden floor with a tall hip roofed ceiling, though unheated, is perfect for trying this experiment, and being able to leave it in place undisturbed, without bother to any other ongoing projects.It should work ok even if the bearings might be stiff with solid grease.The way I figure, if the viscosity of the bearing grease makes the experiment fail, we are not really in the ballpark in terms of a useful over abundance ratio.Cheers Warren
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  On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 12:47 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Warren
Could be, that is very briliant! You need to do it all again to confirm it for prosperity.
Kone

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Hi Warren 
Pleade put ut a little bit of auto transmission fluid on those frozen perhaps near siezed bearings ...10 motors all with crummy bearings is going to make it bad X10...ypu can have motor cruises at 200ma with good bearings maybe 1A with bad that's 5 times worse....
Kone

Hi James,

> On 27 Jan 2019, at 04:36, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Ole can you look at this please it's in German 
> 
> It's about a break through in power generation by voltage increase .reminds me of the don Smith power curve volts verses frequency .but with out the frequency . thanks Jim 

I had a look on it and it’s a website full of BS. Don’t waste one second on it!! :-(

Regards,

 Andreas

OK thinks

On Monday, January 28, 2019, An Hö [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi James,
>
> On 27 Jan 2019, at 04:36, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Ole can you look at this please it's in German
> It's about a break through in power generation by voltage increase
> .reminds me of the don Smith power curve volts verses frequency .but with
> out the frequency . thanks Jim
>
>
> I had a look on it and it’s a website full of BS. Don’t waste one second
> on it!! :-(
>
> Regards,
>
>  Andreas
>
>
> 
>