Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Gary Porter looper ready to bideo lnk

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Warren, a couple month ago i asked for definition of your phrase ,

For this, put a bridge rectifier of 1000 volts, AC legs ' DOWN ACROSS ' the brushes, sending the DC out to somewhere useful, solving the brush burnout.

but you did't had time back then to answer every stupid question, maybe now is a good time
to say what  'down ACROSS  the brushes' means? Thanks.

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On Sat, 1/26/19, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Gary Porter looper ready to bideo lnk
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
 Received: Saturday, January 26, 2019, 2:37 PM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       MickI
 have found the same DC motor able to go from 100 rpm to
 10.000, if the balance, and bearings, are good.
 You may get a minor furnace at the brushes, at
 higher voltages though.For
 this, put a bridge rectifier of 1000 volts, AC legs down
 across the brushes, sending the DC out to somewhere useful,
 solving the brush burnout.Cheers
 Warren
 Sent
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    On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 3:00
 PM, Mick [email protected]
 [EVGRAY]<[email protected]>
 wrote:   
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       
   
   
     Hector, 
 
     
     What
 speed DC motor works really well for this 1800, 3600?  and
       are higher voltage motors any better than the lower
 voltage, or
       vis versa?  
 
       Lets say if the end game is building something serious
 but
       somewhat compact and reliable with enough output to
 get one under
       some serious surveillance.
     I imagine the higher the RPM the less necessary
 larger caps.
 
     
     On 1/26/2019 12:26 PM,
       [email protected]
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
     
     
       
        
       
           
             
 
               Have the capacitor charge and at its null
 neutral
               discharge it with the non reflecting diode
 plug method ,
               say for 9 phases 18 diodes , 18 capacitors and
 18 trigger
               scr switches.
 
               
 
               remember that i had given this in segments
 each segment
               has specific applications and effects .
 
               
 
               assemble them and you have year 2500 ZPE
 technology .
 
               
 
               list of basic things, way to capture an RE
 signal and
               transfer it to a JOULE potential as a dc
 voltage in a
               capacitor.  
 
               
 
               Way to discharge this potential with no
 reflection to
               source ..
 
               
 
               relate to Normans neutral spike and you have
 it all ! 
 
               
 
               OU is transformation taking energy from one
 domain and
               converting it to another .
 
               
 
                
 
               
 
               (H)  
 
               
 
               ---In [email protected],
               <schoonersolsticemoon@...>
 wrote :
 
               
 
             
             Hector
               Is
                 it then better to rectify the AC as soon as
 it is made
                 at the coil, so that it can be combined as a
 high
                 current DC, with the product of the other
 coils in
                 parallel?
               Buffering
                 this in a capacitor, then inverting it, if
 one wants AC,
                 that can be then changed to the voltage
 output, one may
                 want?
               The
                 trick is to have a simple stupid
 
                 Inverter that has no brain that shuts it
 off, when high,
                 or low signals, are recieved, due to
 fluctuations in the
                 power.
               I
                 used deep cycle 6 volt batteries, instead of
 a
                 capacitor, but would rather not, if possible
 to replace
                 them.
               The
                 do seem to suck up any signal coming to
 them, though,
                 and make it tame.
               Cheers
                 Warren
 
                 Sent
 from Yahoo Mail on
                     Android
                 
 
                 
                     
                       
                         On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 7:13 AM,
                           arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]
                         <[email protected]>
 wrote:
                       
                       
                         
                           
                              
                             
                               
                                 
                                   
 
                                     In RV triple flux
 capacitor was used
                                     to excite alternator
 
                                     ,rectified at WYE center
 to get DC 
 
                                     
 
                                     
 
                                     
 
                                     
 
                                     
 
                                      in multi phase WYE DC
 motor 
 
                                     you have an 3x3 flux
 impedance (9
                                     coils) within a common
 WYE center  .
 
                                     
 
                                     can use 9 capacitors 18
 diode
                                     bridge  to play ...use
 40 phases
                                     make that 40 caps
 
                                     80 diode bridge to dc
 conversion
                                     adding the 40 coil
 shorting gates to
                                     the coils  . 
 
                                     
 
                                     
 
                                     (H)
 
                                     
 
                                     
 
                                     
 
                                     ---In [email protected],
                                     <mkjekyll@...>
 wrote :
 
                                     
 
                                   
                                   
                                     Hi Ole,
                                     Why u instead of V?
 
 
                                       Yes the inductor is a
 current
                                       source and acts as a
 current
                                       flywheel, good
 metaphor.  
 
                                       
 
                                       Can you explain the
 fabled flux
                                       capacitor of Faraday
 and what may
                                       indeed be considered
 as such if
                                       one uses plasma states
 for
                                       instance?  
 
                                     
                                     On
                                       1/25/2019 1:33 PM, onielsen@...
                                       [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
                                     
                                      
                                         
                                         
                                           Hi Norman,
 Mick,
 
                                             
 
                                             "...a
                                                 reverse
 current is being
                                                 induced into
 the iron
                                                 core coil
 with the
                                                 reverse
 polarity."
 
                                             The current
 continues in the
                                             same direction
 while the
                                             voltage or
 tension changes
                                             sign. The
 current can't be
                                             stopped or
 having its
                                             direction
 changed in a jump
                                             as it is always
 continuous.
                                             It would be like
 immediately
                                             stopping or
 changing the
                                             direction of a
 running
                                             flywheel. The
 force required
                                             or given off is
 like the
                                             voltage when
 speaking coils.
                                             The voltage or
 force will be
                                             of infinite size
 if the
                                             change happens
 in an
                                             instant. The
 current starts
                                             decreasing from
 whatever
                                             value it has at
 the
                                             disruption. Only
 how fast is
                                             related to the
 size of the
                                             induced voltage
 (u = L x
                                             di/dt) where u
 is the
                                             voltage, L is
 the inductance
                                             of the coil, i
 is the
                                             current and t is
 time. di/dt
                                             is the slope of
 the current.
 
                                             
 
                                             Regards
 
                                             Ole
 
                                             
 
                                             
 
                                             ---In [email protected],
                                             <nwootan@...>
                                             wrote :
 
                                             
 
                                           
                                           
                                             Mick, first
 envision a
                                               North-South
 magnetic poles
                                               embedded in
 flywheel. When
                                               the
 North-South magnets
                                               bridge the
 first two poles
                                               of the stator
 (rotation) a
                                               forward going
 current is
                                               induced into
 iron core
                                               coil and at
 same time
                                               charges up
 condenser to
                                               max. Important
 note here
                                               is that the
 impedance of
                                               coil is LC
 matched to the
                                               value of the
 condenser.  
                                               When the
 North-South
                                               magnets move
 over to the
                                               middle and
 last poles,
                                               breaker points
 open and at
                                               same time a
 reverse
                                               current is
 being induced
                                               into the iron
 core coil
                                               with the
 reverse polarity,
                                               the condenser
 discharges
                                               through coil
 windings to
                                               frame ground.
 With the
                                               condenser
 being charged
                                               via the
 forward going
                                               current, 1st
 step, when it
                                               discharges
 into coil a
                                               reverse
 current is being
                                               induced by
 moving magnets.
                                               In effect you
 have
                                               opposing
 currents,
                                               opposite
 polarity,
                                              
 (BUCKING-OPPOSED)  which
                                               cause a
 miniature magnetic
                                               flux
 annihilation event
                                               and a
 MAGNETO-ELECTRIC,
                                               micro EMP
 event. That is
                                               the reason the
 old
                                               magnetos had
 such a
                                               powerful spark
 even when
                                               you turned
 them by hand at
                                               super low
 RPM.    I worked
                                               on thousands
 of them on my
                                               magneto test
 bench.  Norm
 
                                             
                                             On
                                               1/25/2019 9:20
 AM, Mick mkjekyll@...
                                               [EVGRAY]
 wrote:
 
                                             
                                            
  
                                                 
                                                 
                                                    
                                                  
 Norm,
                                                   So this
 is the same
                                                     effect
 from the 3
                                                     pole
 magneto you
                                                     showed
 us, when the
                                                     cap
 discharges
                                                     during
 the
                                                    
 collapsing flyback
                                                     pulse
 and compresses
                                                     the
 delta?
                                                   Were
 three poles
                                                     used in
 parallel in
                                                     order to
 make sure
                                                     the iron
 was fully
                                                    
 saturated even at
                                                     low
 speed in the old
                                                    
 magneto?
 
                                                   
                                                   On
                                                    
 1/25/2019 9:35 AM,
                                                     Norman
 Wootan nwootan@...
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
                                                   
                                                  
   
                                                     
                                                       
 
                                                      
 Your quote,
                                                         feed
 it a
                                                        
 reverse
                                                        
 potential as
                                                        
 voltage is
                                                        
 maximal peaking
                                                         and
 you have a
                                                        
 mother of an EMP
                                                        
 neutral spike on
                                                         your
 hands
                                                        
 !      
                                                        
 Yeeeeeeaaaaah! 
                                                        
 Hector my
                                                        
 friend, you got
                                                         it
 exactly
                                                        
 right. In all my
                                                        
 experience with
                                                         old
 time
                                                        
 magnetos, this
                                                         is
 exactly how
                                                         the
 conderser
                                                        
 discharge
                                                        
 through the
                                                        
 primary windings
                                                        
 happens with
                                                        
 reverse
                                                        
 polarity.  Bang,
                                                         you
 get a sharp
                                                        
 crack spark
                                                        
 discharge in the
                                                        
 bright blue wave
                                                        
 lengths.  Not a
                                                        
 measily  orange
                                                        
 spark without
                                                         any
 zip to it. 
                                                         The
 5HP
                                                        
 compressor, EMP
                                                         test
 I did works
                                                         this
 way.
 
                                                       
                                                       On
                                                        
 1/25/2019 6:35
                                                         AM,
 arkresearch@...
                                                        
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
                                                       
                                                      
   
                                                         
                                                          
 If you
                                                          
 short a coil
                                                          
 current
                                                          
 becomes
                                                          
 maximal
                                                          
 voltage stays
                                                          
 lag at zero
                                                          
 upon max core
                                                          
 saturation ,
                                                          
 then at short
                                                          
 cut off
                                                          
 ,voltage
                                                          
 becomes
                                                          
 leading and
                                                          
 maximal as
                                                          
 current drop
                                                           to
 zero ...
                                                          
 basic RF
                                                          
 neutral spike
                                                          
 dynamics !
 
                                                          
 
 
                                                          
 feed it a
                                                          
 reverse
                                                          
 potential as
                                                          
 voltage is
                                                          
 maximal
                                                          
 peaking and
                                                          
 you have a
                                                          
 mother of an
                                                          
 EMP neutral
                                                          
 spike on your
                                                          
 hands !  
 
                                                          
 
 
                                                          
 (H)   other
                                                          
 methods are
                                                          
 applicable ,,,
                                                          
 rotary is best
                                                          
 for simplicity
                                                           ,
 
 
                                                          
 
 
                                                          
 
 
                                                          
 
 
                                                          
 
 
                                                          
 
                                                          
 
 
                                                          
 
 
                                                          
 ---In [email protected],
                                                           <konehead@...>
                                                          
 wrote :
 
                                                          
 
 
                                                          
 Hi
                                                          
 Mick
 
                                                          
 "would require
                                                          
 shorting to
                                                          
 saturate the
                                                          
 core from
                                                          
 passing a
                                                          
 magnet"
 
                                                          
 Did you mean:
 
                                                          
 "would require
                                                          
 shorting to
                                                          
 saturate the
                                                          
 core from a
                                                          
 passing
                                                          
 magnet" ?
 
                                                           I
 don't know
                                                          
 something
                                                          
 else?
 
                                                          
 Also wouldn't
                                                           a
 shorted coil
                                                          
 become rf
                                                          
 transmitter
                                                          
 not so much an
                                                          
 antenna?
 
                                                          
 Anyways still
                                                          
 confused but
                                                          
 just half way
                                                          
 confused now..
 
                                                          
 Kone
                                                          
 
                                                        
 
                                                      
 
                                                     
                                                  
 
                                                 
                                               
                                             
                                           
                                         
                                       
                                     
                                   
                                 
                               
                             
                           
                         
                       
                     
                   
               
             
           
           
       
       
       
       
     
   
 
 
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
  
 
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
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