Re: [EVGRAY] Dual rotor motor running on 500ma [1 Attachment]

Kone,

That's super cool, so impedance drops with higher RPM assuming why
energy sink drops with shaft loading as it slows down and you have timed
out Lenz vampire, amazing work!

On 11/30/2018 8:25 AM, 'Douglas L. Konzen' [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> This is with the lower impedance winds as motor winds.
> Each of 5 coils .8ohms for 4ohm total impedance...volts input 14vdc
> Note draw goes down when I grab shaft and load motor down.
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Kone,

Per revolution how many power pulses and how many generator pulses?

On 11/30/2018 11:34 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Hi Mick
> Maybe not so amazing as could be too heavy of pulse width but at least
> draw does not go up horribly as is usual with electric motors when you
> load shaft down heavily.
> I am timing pulses off the rotor magnets I will suspect making small
> trigger disc on shaft with16 small magnets for pulse width half as
> long will get draw down to under 100ma but also make for much weaker
> shaft power and braking shaft with hand now will raise draw but I
> could be wrong and draw drops still...what this idesigned for is
> shared core with both motor and generator winds and the generator
> winds need to be pulsed out into load at the same time or delayed a
> bit or maybe 90 degrees off I don't know in compared to the motor coil
> pulse...i would like to have much shorter pulse width to the motor
> winds as compared to the generator winds output....maybe there should
> be a bit of overlap to the input and output too we will see...nayways
> I need to install 2nd hall effect and mosfet relay and begin some
> experiments...this motor does have very.good shaft power at least so
> far .. so seems having the coils and cores react to rotor magnets at
> each end does seem to double shaft power with same impulse to coil
> Kone
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This is with the lower impedance winds as motor winds.
Each of 5 coils .8ohms for 4ohm total impedance...volts input 14vdc
Note draw goes down when I grab shaft and load motor down.

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Hi Mick
Maybe not so amazing as could be too heavy of pulse width but at least draw does not go up horribly  as is usual with electric motors when you load shaft down heavily.
I am timing pulses off the rotor magnets I will suspect making small trigger disc on shaft with16 small magnets for pulse width half as long will get draw down to under 100ma but also make for much weaker shaft power and braking shaft with hand now will raise draw but I could be wrong and draw drops still...what this idesigned for is shared core with both motor and generator winds and the generator winds need to be pulsed out into load at the same time or delayed a bit or maybe 90 degrees off I don't know in compared to the motor coil pulse...i would like to have much shorter pulse width to the motor winds as compared to the generator winds output....maybe there should be a bit of overlap to the input and output too we will see...nayways I need to install 2nd hall effect and mosfet relay and begin some experiments...this motor does have very.good shaft power at least so far .. so seems having the coils and cores react to rotor magnets at each end does seem to double shaft power with same impulse to coil
Kone

Hi Mick
16 motor pulses per tevolution, all attractive, have not tried repulsive yet that might work better..
I could do both attractive and repulsive too with some tight timing and polarity reversal...
Remember the dual rotors and coil-core sandwich make for two power pulses to rotor for every single impulse to motor coil

Generator pulsed have not set up yet but intend to pulse out generator coils wound behind motor coils (sharng core) at some point in rotation where it hopefully speeds up rotor when generator coils are pulsed into load....Hectors 4 to 7 degrees leading of pirimemover to generator output might be where it is..so most probably for every motor coil pulse there Will be a generator pulse following .the flyback stuff finds its way into the generator winds too as I have tested that a lot already so caps should be filling up fast and with no Lenz is the goal and rotor speed up under load the ultimate and if so it sbould loop if feeding big cap bank running motor half of it.
Might need lots more switching as perhaps disconnect of caps during discharge to load will be necessary maybe not though if I find perfect timing delay.
Kone