Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [3 Attachments]

Thanks Norman,

BTW, what is the  most effective water split device that you ever put you hands on?
As HHO researcher for dekades you should be able to point us directly to the most effective known!
Please be specific about reconstruction of the same, since we are in public domain it will become public knowledge and public good. I  assume you intend nothing else,rigth ?
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On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [3 Attachments]
 To: "Bert Pool" <[email protected]>, "Bob Paddock" <[email protected]>, "joel mcclain" <[email protected]>, "Jon Gentry" <[email protected]>, "Lane Wootan" <[email protected]>, "Mbking42" <[email protected]>, "Toby Grotz" <[email protected]>, "Phil Rembold" <[email protected]>, "Angel Alvarez" <[email protected]>, "Fredric Fletcher" <[email protected]>, [email protected]
To understand the unwinding of a thread leading
 to Magnetic
       Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery, we have
 to dust off
       our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
     http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
 I guess Dr.
       Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic Current.
 (Jon
       Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
     https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
       Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
     https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
     https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
     https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
     https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
     https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
     http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
     http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
     Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump so
 that you can
       make the helix tube Vortex!  Ferricpetacarbonyl or
 micro fine neo
       powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
 circuit.
     Lots of reading here!     Please think about the
 ramifications of
       a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr. Ehrenhaft!

Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer but here is your starting 
point!

https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html 
After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION Research back in 
the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best catalyst in electrolytic 
cells which is pure nickel. I still have the cell used in the Elemental 
Replication experiments.

http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm     The hidden part of 
this research is the use of a nickel component in the combustion 
chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition systems to enable water 
injection in gas engine which high lighted the Graneau HV decomposition 
of water via HVDC discharge!

My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell to produce hydrogen 
does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as shown by the Dr. Ehrenhaft 
document.  I would tell you to pursue the super high Tesla magnetic flux 
and nickel electrodes in an electrolytic cell.  The major obstacle to be 
overcome is the rapid collection of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla 
flux across a .020" mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a 
super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC power supply. You 
can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water and the gaps will show 
in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms after a short period of 
running, the gathered ions totally short cell. During the brief runs 
there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas produced which I burned off as it 
was generated.  Much can be said about driving the cell with high 
frequencies as the Myers research showed.  Our friend up in Canada at 
George Wiseman, Eagle Research is running well ahead of the crowd on the 
production of H-H-O.

Just for giggles!

16 October 1996

*To: Hal Fox,Fusion Facts*

*Elemental Replication ?*

**

Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to the 
Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the 
possibilities of making what is termed “Pristine Water”.This water which 
will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information 
removed.This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and 
monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell.This is the 
ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at the time of 
original creation.“Holly Water”is a term coined by my dear friend and 
fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.After several weeks of 
successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a true 
“pristine water” a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate 
electrolyte.A solution was selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals 
as found in plants that are the easiest assimilated into the body.With 
the electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before 
with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after 
“pristine water”.

After about an hour of operation the cell went absolutely “nuts” with 
the temperature rapidly climbing to boiling point and the current out of 
sight.When the cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit which 
shorted the cell plates.Our first thought was that the electrolytic 
action precipitated out the colloidal minerals which caused the deposit 
found.Theelectrolyte was allowed to settle out the 
precipitate.Afterdecanting off,the clear electrolyte was returned to the 
cell for another run. Again the cell operated normally for about an hour 
with a normal recombination burn and recovery of the water being 
consumed by the cell in the splitting action.Again the cell temperature 
and current mirrored the first run.Again the cell contained the same 
amount of sludge residue.This process was repeated ten (10) times with 
exactly the same results.All of the sludge was carefully dried and 
weighed on an electronic scale with a five decimal resolution.The cell 
plates and all hardware were weighed to determine any loss of mass that 
may contribute to the mass gain observed in the sludge.Five hundred 
(500) ml of the original electrolyte solution used in the cell was 
vacuum distilled to determine the exact mass of colloidal minerals 
contained.When all factors were considered we came out with a mass gain 
of48 gm which cannot be explained by conventional electrolysis.

After talking to Dr. Robert Bass and Hal Fox I learned of a patent that 
has been filed on the transmutation of elements in the cold fusion cell 
which is the process that Dr. John Bockris has been so active in.Both 
Dr. Bass and Hal Fox stated that what I was observing is not the same as 
the transmutation observed in the cold fusion cell since I have a 
overall mass gain and not a lateral movement of elements in the periodic 
table toward lighter elements with a resulting heat release.This unusual 
cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the scientific community. 
At this time I have built a complete new cell with every possible factor 
which could possibly explain the mass gain considered and documented.The 
ten (10) consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed soon and a 
report will be forthcoming.What is interesting about this phenomenon is 
that when an eleventh run was made with the original electrolyte exactly 
the same amount of residue was recovered as in the previous ten runs.

Since the same electrolyte is reused each time with only distilled water 
being added to replace the volume lost by the removal of the solids and 
the water recovered by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to 
explain the observed phenomenon.The electrolyte appears stronger in 
mineral concentration and shows no sign of depletion.

After conferring with Joe Tyls we arrived at the conclusion that the 77 
colloidal minerals contained in the electrolyte provide the atomic 
templates needed for the monatomic hydrogen (father of all the elements) 
to replicate selected elements in this exotic mixture.If you subscribe 
to the theories of the late Walter Russell and his explanation of the 
octave based periodic table with monatonic hydrogen being what he 
describes as hydrons (precursor to hydrogen) then it is possible for the 
replication of elements directly from energy input alone.This is how all 
matter was created in the beginning as described by Schappeller in “The 
Physics of the Primary State of Matter”.I will keep all informed as to 
our progress and findings in this very intriguing venture.

Norman Wootan

P.O. Box 141049

Dallas, TX 75214

(214) 360-0865

CC:Gene Mallove, Infinite Energy

CC:Dr. John Bockris, Texas A/M



On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM, Jakob Wall [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Thanks Norman,
>
> BTW, what is the most effective water split device that you ever put 
> you hands on?
> As HHO researcher for dekades you should be able to point us directly 
> to the most effective known!
> Please be specific about reconstruction of the same, since we are in 
> public domain it will become public knowledge and public good. I 
> assume you intend nothing else,rigth ?
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [3 
> Attachments]
> To: "Bert Pool" <[email protected]>, "Bob Paddock" 
> <[email protected]>, "joel mcclain" <[email protected]>, "Jon 
> Gentry" <[email protected]>, "Lane Wootan" <[email protected]>, 
> "Mbking42" <[email protected]>, "Toby Grotz" 
> <[email protected]>, "Phil Rembold" <[email protected]>, 
> "Angel Alvarez" <[email protected]>, "Fredric Fletcher" 
> <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> To understand the unwinding of a thread leading
> to Magnetic
> Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery, we have
> to dust off
> our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
> http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm
> I guess Dr.
> Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic Current.
> (Jon
> Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
> https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/
> Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
> https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
> https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
> https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
> https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
> http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
> http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
> Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump so
> that you can
> make the helix tube Vortex!  Ferricpetacarbonyl or
> micro fine neo
> powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
> circuit.
> Lots of reading here!     Please think about the
> ramifications of
> a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr. Ehrenhaft!
>
>

Something to put in the back of your mind when thinking of splitting 
water molecule!! 
https://sciencing.com/how-is-a-water-molecule-like-a-magnet-13712174.html. 
Now think about this article and a super powerful magnetic field (maybe 
oscillating at the NMR freq of hydrogen) 
https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html 
Consider the fact that hydrogen is diamagnetic and oxygen is para 
magnetic then you would have to conclude that under proper conditions 
the water molecule will disassociate! 
https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt4P6ctf06Q 
https://chem.libretexts.org/LibreTexts/Mount_Royal_University/Chem_1201/Unit_2._Periodic_Properties_of_the_Elements/2.07%3A_Magnetic_Properties_of_Atoms_and_Ions

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis

Just a little note on our quest for a more efficient way to produce 
hydrogen gas!   Norm



On 10/28/2018 9:44 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer but here is your 
> starting point!
>
> https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html 
> After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION Research back in 
> the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best catalyst in 
> electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have the cell used in 
> the Elemental Replication experiments.
>
> http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm The hidden part of 
> this research is the use of a nickel component in the combustion 
> chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition systems to enable water 
> injection in gas engine which high lighted the Graneau HV 
> decomposition of water via HVDC discharge!
>
> My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell to produce 
> hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as shown by the 
> Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to pursue the super high 
> Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an electrolytic cell.  
> The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid collection of ions from 
> solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a .020" mechanical gap which 
> quickly takes the cell into a super-conduction mode which takes out 
> the driving DC power supply. You can flush the magnetic gaps with 
> distilled water and the gaps will show in the meg-ohm range then go to 
> zero ohms after a short period of running, the gathered ions totally 
> short cell. During the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen 
> gas produced  which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be 
> said about driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers 
> research showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman, Eagle 
> Research is running well ahead of the crowd on the production of H-H-O.
>
> Just for giggles!
>
> 16 October 1996
>
> *To: Hal Fox,Fusion Facts*
>
> *Elemental Replication ?*
>
> **
>
> Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to 
> the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the 
> possibilities of making what is termed “Pristine Water”.This water 
> which will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or 
> information removed.This is accomplished by recombining monatomic 
> hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed 
> cell.This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with 
> conditions at the time of original creation.“Holly Water”is a term 
> coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, 
> BC.After several weeks of successful operation producing water that 
> had all the earmarks of a true “pristine water” a fellow researcher 
> suggested using an alternate electrolyte.A solution was selected that 
> contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the 
> easiest assimilated into the body.With the electrolyte changed the 
> cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination 
> burn and production of the sought after “pristine water”.
>
> After about an hour of operation the cell went absolutely “nuts” with 
> the temperature rapidly climbing to boiling point and the current out 
> of sight.When the cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit 
> which shorted the cell plates.Our first thought was that the 
> electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal minerals which 
> caused the deposit found.Theelectrolyte was allowed to settle out the 
> precipitate.Afterdecanting off,the clear electrolyte was returned to 
> the cell for another run. Again the cell operated normally for about 
> an hour with a normal recombination burn and recovery of the water 
> being consumed by the cell in the splitting action.Again the cell 
> temperature and current mirrored the first run.Again the cell 
> contained the same amount of sludge residue.This process was repeated 
> ten (10) times with exactly the same results.All of the sludge was 
> carefully dried and weighed on an electronic scale with a five decimal 
> resolution.The cell plates and all hardware were weighed to determine 
> any loss of mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed in the 
> sludge.Five hundred (500) ml of the original electrolyte solution used 
> in the cell was vacuum distilled to determine the exact mass of 
> colloidal minerals contained.When all factors were considered we came 
> out with a mass gain of48 gm which cannot be explained by conventional 
> electrolysis.
>
> After talking to Dr. Robert Bass and Hal Fox I learned of a patent 
> that has been filed on the transmutation of elements in the cold 
> fusion cell which is the process that Dr. John Bockris has been so 
> active in.Both Dr. Bass and Hal Fox stated that what I was observing 
> is not the same as the transmutation observed in the cold fusion cell 
> since I have a overall mass gain and not a lateral movement of 
> elements in the periodic table toward lighter elements with a 
> resulting heat release.This unusual cell operation has caused quite a 
> reaction in the scientific community. At this time I have built a 
> complete new cell with every possible factor which could possibly 
> explain the mass gain considered and documented.The ten (10) 
> consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed soon and a report 
> will be forthcoming.What is interesting about this phenomenon is that 
> when an eleventh run was made with the original electrolyte exactly 
> the same amount of residue was recovered as in the previous ten runs.
>
> Since the same electrolyte is reused each time with only distilled 
> water being added to replace the volume lost by the removal of the 
> solids and the water recovered by the recombination burn we are hard 
> pressed to explain the observed phenomenon.The electrolyte appears 
> stronger in mineral concentration and shows no sign of depletion.
>
> After conferring with Joe Tyls we arrived at the conclusion that the 
> 77 colloidal minerals contained in the electrolyte provide the atomic 
> templates needed for the monatomic hydrogen (father of all the 
> elements) to replicate selected elements in this exotic mixture.If you 
> subscribe to the theories of the late Walter Russell and his 
> explanation of the octave based periodic table with monatonic hydrogen 
> being what he describes as hydrons (precursor to hydrogen) then it is 
> possible for the replication of elements directly from energy input 
> alone.This is how all matter was created in the beginning as described 
> by Schappeller in “The Physics of the Primary State of Matter”.I will 
> keep all informed as to our progress and findings in this very 
> intriguing venture.
>
> Norman Wootan
>
> P.O. Box 141049
>
> Dallas, TX 75214
>
> (214) 360-0865
>
> CC:Gene Mallove, Infinite Energy
>
> CC:Dr. John Bockris, Texas A/M
>
>
>
> On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM, Jakob Wall [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Norman,
>>
>> BTW, what is the most effective water split device that you ever put 
>> you hands on?
>> As HHO researcher for dekades you should be able to point us directly 
>> to the most effective known!
>> Please be specific about reconstruction of the same, since we are in 
>> public domain it will become public knowledge and public good. I 
>> assume you intend nothing else,rigth ?
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [3 
>> Attachments]
>> To: "Bert Pool" <[email protected]>, "Bob Paddock" 
>> <[email protected]>, "joel mcclain" <[email protected]>, "Jon 
>> Gentry" <[email protected]>, "Lane Wootan" <[email protected]>, 
>> "Mbking42" <[email protected]>, "Toby Grotz" 
>> <[email protected]>, "Phil Rembold" <[email protected]>, 
>> "Angel Alvarez" <[email protected]>, "Fredric Fletcher" 
>> <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> To understand the unwinding of a thread leading
>> to Magnetic
>> Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery, we have
>> to dust off
>> our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
>> http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm
>> I guess Dr.
>> Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic Current.
>> (Jon
>> Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>> https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/
>> Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>> https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>> https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>> https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>> https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>> http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>> http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>> Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump so
>> that you can
>> make the helix tube Vortex!  Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>> micro fine neo
>> powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>> circuit.
>> Lots of reading here!     Please think about the
>> ramifications of
>> a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr. Ehrenhaft!
>>
>> 
>