Re: [EVGRAY] Secrets of Antihravity propulsion.

Hi Ole,
Are you claiming that Tesla did not make this statement about the earth not being a planet and where he claimed the stars are attached to the firmament and where he condemned the theory of heliocentrism and Einsteins's theory?

George

    On Monday, 16 July 2018, 8:22:53 pm AEST, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
Hi George,

This sounds like the flat earth conspiracy. Tesla considered the earth as a globe that he could resonate and even reflect the signals at the antipode. He used the earth as one pole and the ionosphere or some other conductive layer as the other pole.

"Electromagnetic levitation disproves gravity because the only forceyou need to counter is the electromagnetic force, not gravity."
Gravity may actually be some side effect of electromagnetism as suspected by the research of William J. Hooper. Daniel Fry was told that gravity could be manipulated by just using electrons.

The motional electric field from moving charges like electrons can't be shielded and thus behaves like gravity. This may actually be the same force that is known as gravity. Remember many books of physics splits up electromagnetism in separate disciplines like electrostatics magnetism and electrodynamics. Other books like that of W.B. Smith, W.J. Hooper or Ivor Catt's books claim that the forces are united and can't be separated in the real world. Thus gravity belongs to a unified field theory and can't be separated from the other fields as they all interact and are part of each other. W.J. Hooper and I. Catt have shown that the signals may seemingly cancel out but the effects of the components of the fields still show up in experiments looking for them.

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :


 Well here are Tesla's thoughts on gravity. 

"Earth is a realm, it is not aplanet. It is not an object, therefore, it has no edge. Earth wouldbe more easily defined as a system environment. Earth is also amachine, it is a Tesla coil. The sun and moon are powered wirelesslywith the electromagnetic field (the Aether). This field alsosuspends the celestial spheres with electro-magnetic levitation. Electromagnetic levitation disproves gravity because the only forceyou need to counter is the electromagnetic force, not gravity. Thestars are attached to the firmament".

"Trust me heliocentrism &Einstein is a joke".







   
 On Sunday, 15 July 2018, 11:38:07 pm AEST, onielsen@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: 
 
 
     
Hi Warren,

There is also the theory of W.B. Smith and W.J Hooper that gravity is a weak secondary effect of electromagnetism. This theory states that all atoms have orbiting atoms that radiates electromagnetic fields which interacts with other atoms doing the same thing. The interaction is through the motional magnetic field which can't be shielded or at least it hasn't been shown to be possible to do that. Same holds for gravity. Instead of electromagnetism sound waves can be used to simulate the effect as can be seen in the theory of rhytmodynamics. http://rhythmodynamics.com/menu/TV_player2.htm

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :



DarrellThat is great. Sometimes in the midst of moving tons of timber, and rock, a person needs a rest from the moil, and toil on this planet's crust; to take a moment to share the ideas of others.The balance of of the roar of a diesel excavator against conceptual events inside a coffee cup, can, and perhaps should, stagger the brain.In the realm of maniacs, tangible reality is a precious resource not to be squandered.Yet, for pursuit of a better picture of what matter really is,  no stone should be unturned, as it were.Gravity cannot be simply taken for granted, defenistration aside,A mere hundred years ago, learned men wrote careful papers saying that heavier than air flight was impossible. Some part of us may still question this as our plane takes what seems for ever, to leave the runway.Now the very substance of matter evading gravitational pull, in another even more exciting manner, is being presented.Who would not want to read this?Each of us has to bend to the ongoing task of providing collective reality checks, using our own brains, such as they are.Getting accurate information from reliable sources is the ongoing challenge. It helps, when one gets a book review by trusted peers.Cheers Warren
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  On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 at 12:44 AM, Iuliu Hossu iuliu.hossu@... [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Not yet, just found it on the Internethttps://www.redhill.net.nz/ufo/audio/u/UFOs%20and%20Aliens/Secrets%20of%20Antigravity%20Propulsion,%20Tesla,%20UFOs%20and%20Classified%20Aerospace%20Technology%20-%20Paul%20A%20LaViolette.pdf

On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 6:31 PM, edarrell71@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

     


Hello my friends, anyone in here ever read a copy of this book?

Hi George,

"Are you claiming that Tesla did not make this statement about the earth not being a planet and where he claimed the stars are attached to the firmament and where he condemned the theory of heliocentrism and Einsteins's theory?"

I haven't seen Tesla mention this. But in the mention of his wireless transmission of energy he claims that the earth is a globe that can be resonated. He also mentions communication to Mars in an interview. Tesla even highly recommends astronomer T.J.J. See's theory of gravity which claims signal speed of one and a half times the speed of light in vacuum. Tesla does mention that he doesn't believe in the relativity theories of Einstein which are just theories without experimental backup.

Regards
Ole

Indeed Tesla did not say that,  Darrel Fox said that and idiots, sorry,
flat earthers as you prefer to be known, confused it.


On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 3:52 AM george gray [email protected]
[EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Ole,
>
> Are you claiming that Tesla did not make this statement about the earth
> not being a planet and where he claimed the stars are attached to the
> firmament and where he condemned the theory of heliocentrism and
> Einsteins's theory?
>
> George
>
> On Monday, 16 July 2018, 8:22:53 pm AEST, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi George,
>
> This sounds like the flat earth conspiracy. Tesla considered the earth as
> a globe that he could resonate and even reflect the signals at the
> antipode. He used the earth as one pole and the ionosphere or some other
> conductive layer as the other pole.
>
> "Electromagnetic levitation disproves gravity because the only force you
> need to counter is the electromagnetic force, not gravity."
> Gravity may actually be some side effect of electromagnetism as suspected
> by the research of William J. Hooper. Daniel Fry was told that gravity
> could be manipulated by just using electrons.
>
> The motional electric field from moving charges like electrons can't be
> shielded and thus behaves like gravity. This may actually be the same force
> that is known as gravity. Remember many books of physics splits up
> electromagnetism in separate disciplines like electrostatics magnetism and
> electrodynamics. Other books like that of W.B. Smith, W.J. Hooper or Ivor
> Catt's books claim that the forces are united and can't be separated in the
> real world. Thus gravity belongs to a unified field theory and can't be
> separated from the other fields as they all interact and are part of each
> other. W.J. Hooper and I. Catt have shown that the signals may seemingly
> cancel out but the effects of the components of the fields still show up in
> experiments looking for them.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :
>
> Well here are Tesla's thoughts on gravity.
>
> "Earth is a realm, it is not a planet. It is not an object, therefore, it
> has no edge. Earth would be more easily defined as a system environment.
> Earth is also a machine, it is a Tesla coil. The sun and moon are powered
> wirelessly with the electromagnetic field (the Aether). This field also
> suspends the celestial spheres with electro-magnetic levitation. Electromagnetic
> levitation disproves gravity because the only force you need to counter is
> the electromagnetic force, not gravity. The stars are attached to the
> firmament".
>
> "Trust me heliocentrism & Einstein is a joke".
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, 15 July 2018, 11:38:07 pm AEST, onielsen@... [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Warren,
>
> There is also the theory of W.B. Smith and W.J Hooper that gravity is a
> weak secondary effect of electromagnetism. This theory states that all
> atoms have orbiting atoms that radiates electromagnetic fields which
> interacts with other atoms doing the same thing. The interaction is through
> the motional magnetic field which can't be shielded or at least it hasn't
> been shown to be possible to do that. Same holds for gravity. Instead of
> electromagnetism sound waves can be used to simulate the effect as can be
> seen in the theory of rhytmodynamics.
> http://rhythmodynamics.com/menu/TV_player2.htm
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :
>
>
> Darrell
> That is great.
>  Sometimes in the midst of moving tons of timber, and rock, a person needs
> a rest from the moil, and toil on this planet's crust; to take a moment to
> share the ideas of others.
> The balance of of the roar of a diesel excavator against conceptual events
> inside a coffee cup, can, and perhaps should, stagger the brain.
> In the realm of maniacs, tangible reality is a precious resource not to be
> squandered.
> Yet, for pursuit of a better picture of what matter really is,  no stone
> should be unturned, as it were.
> Gravity cannot be simply taken for granted, defenistration aside,
> A mere hundred years ago, learned men wrote careful papers saying that
> heavier than air flight was impossible. Some part of us may still question
> this as our plane takes what seems for ever, to leave the runway.
> Now the very substance of matter evading gravitational pull, in another
> even more exciting manner, is being presented.
> Who would not want to read this?
> Each of us has to bend to the ongoing task of providing collective reality
> checks, using our own brains, such as they are.
> Getting accurate information from reliable sources is the ongoing
> challenge. It helps, when one gets a book review by trusted peers.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 at 12:44 AM, Iuliu Hossu iuliu.hossu@... [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Not yet, just found it on the Internet
>
> https://www.redhill.net.nz/ufo/audio/u/UFOs%20and%20Aliens/Secrets%20of%20Antigravity%20Propulsion,%20Tesla,%20UFOs%20and%20Classified%20Aerospace%20Technology%20-%20Paul%20A%20LaViolette.pdf
>
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 6:31 PM, edarrell71@... [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> [image:
> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51kEJibyM8L._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg]
>
> Hello my friends, anyone in here ever read a copy of this book?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>

https://www.quora.com/Did-Tesla-really-say-that-the-Earth-was-flat

You can see the Darrel Fox quote.

You can also see quotes from Tesla where he called it a Globe...



On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 12:09 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

> Indeed Tesla did not say that,  Darrel Fox said that and idiots, sorry,
> flat earthers as you prefer to be known, confused it.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 3:52 AM george gray [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Ole,
>>
>> Are you claiming that Tesla did not make this statement about the earth
>> not being a planet and where he claimed the stars are attached to the
>> firmament and where he condemned the theory of heliocentrism and
>> Einsteins's theory?
>>
>> George
>>
>> On Monday, 16 July 2018, 8:22:53 pm AEST, [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi George,
>>
>> This sounds like the flat earth conspiracy. Tesla considered the earth as
>> a globe that he could resonate and even reflect the signals at the
>> antipode. He used the earth as one pole and the ionosphere or some other
>> conductive layer as the other pole.
>>
>> "Electromagnetic levitation disproves gravity because the only force you
>> need to counter is the electromagnetic force, not gravity."
>> Gravity may actually be some side effect of electromagnetism as suspected
>> by the research of William J. Hooper. Daniel Fry was told that gravity
>> could be manipulated by just using electrons.
>>
>> The motional electric field from moving charges like electrons can't be
>> shielded and thus behaves like gravity. This may actually be the same force
>> that is known as gravity. Remember many books of physics splits up
>> electromagnetism in separate disciplines like electrostatics magnetism and
>> electrodynamics. Other books like that of W.B. Smith, W.J. Hooper or Ivor
>> Catt's books claim that the forces are united and can't be separated in the
>> real world. Thus gravity belongs to a unified field theory and can't be
>> separated from the other fields as they all interact and are part of each
>> other. W.J. Hooper and I. Catt have shown that the signals may seemingly
>> cancel out but the effects of the components of the fields still show up in
>> experiments looking for them.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ole
>>
>>
>> ---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :
>>
>> Well here are Tesla's thoughts on gravity.
>>
>> "Earth is a realm, it is not a planet. It is not an object, therefore, it
>> has no edge. Earth would be more easily defined as a system environment.
>> Earth is also a machine, it is a Tesla coil. The sun and moon are powered
>> wirelessly with the electromagnetic field (the Aether). This field also
>> suspends the celestial spheres with electro-magnetic levitation. Electromagnetic
>> levitation disproves gravity because the only force you need to counter is
>> the electromagnetic force, not gravity. The stars are attached to the
>> firmament".
>>
>> "Trust me heliocentrism & Einstein is a joke".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 15 July 2018, 11:38:07 pm AEST, onielsen@... [EVGRAY] <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Warren,
>>
>> There is also the theory of W.B. Smith and W.J Hooper that gravity is a
>> weak secondary effect of electromagnetism. This theory states that all
>> atoms have orbiting atoms that radiates electromagnetic fields which
>> interacts with other atoms doing the same thing. The interaction is through
>> the motional magnetic field which can't be shielded or at least it hasn't
>> been shown to be possible to do that. Same holds for gravity. Instead of
>> electromagnetism sound waves can be used to simulate the effect as can be
>> seen in the theory of rhytmodynamics.
>> http://rhythmodynamics.com/menu/TV_player2.htm
>>
>> Regards
>> Ole
>>
>>
>> ---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :
>>
>>
>> Darrell
>> That is great.
>>  Sometimes in the midst of moving tons of timber, and rock, a person
>> needs a rest from the moil, and toil on this planet's crust; to take a
>> moment to share the ideas of others.
>> The balance of of the roar of a diesel excavator against conceptual
>> events inside a coffee cup, can, and perhaps should, stagger the brain.
>> In the realm of maniacs, tangible reality is a precious resource not to
>> be squandered.
>> Yet, for pursuit of a better picture of what matter really is,  no stone
>> should be unturned, as it were.
>> Gravity cannot be simply taken for granted, defenistration aside,
>> A mere hundred years ago, learned men wrote careful papers saying that
>> heavier than air flight was impossible. Some part of us may still question
>> this as our plane takes what seems for ever, to leave the runway.
>> Now the very substance of matter evading gravitational pull, in another
>> even more exciting manner, is being presented.
>> Who would not want to read this?
>> Each of us has to bend to the ongoing task of providing collective
>> reality checks, using our own brains, such as they are.
>> Getting accurate information from reliable sources is the ongoing
>> challenge. It helps, when one gets a book review by trusted peers.
>> Cheers Warren
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 at 12:44 AM, Iuliu Hossu iuliu.hossu@... [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Not yet, just found it on the Internet
>>
>> https://www.redhill.net.nz/ufo/audio/u/UFOs%20and%20Aliens/Secrets%20of%20Antigravity%20Propulsion,%20Tesla,%20UFOs%20and%20Classified%20Aerospace%20Technology%20-%20Paul%20A%20LaViolette.pdf
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 6:31 PM, edarrell71@... [EVGRAY] <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> [image:
>> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51kEJibyM8L._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg]
>>
>> Hello my friends, anyone in here ever read a copy of this book?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>

Thanks Ole,
George

    On Wednesday, 18 July 2018, 7:50:27 pm AEST, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
Hi George,

"Are you claiming that Tesla did not make this statement about the earth not being a planet and where he claimed the stars are attached to the firmament and where he condemned the theory of heliocentrism and Einsteins's theory?"

I haven't seen Tesla mention this. But in the mention of his wireless transmission of energy he claims that the earth is a globe that can be resonated. He also mentions communication to Mars in an interview. Tesla even highly recommends astronomer T.J.J. See's theory of gravity which claims signal speed of one and a half times the speed of light in vacuum. Tesla does mention that he doesn't believe in the relativity theories of Einstein which are just theories without experimental backup.

Regards
Ole