Ion Pump materials

Norm,

I have been looking for electrical insulators that are good thermal
conductors.  the best I came up with are diamond and cubic boron arsenide

Have been running tests with different plasma devices such as light
bulbs, plasma spheres, neon lamps and looking for the magnetic re
connection.  Not much luck until today with a very long UV lamp that
during a ground spike spun the compass, exciting stuff!  Even though
running isolated on batteries to independent ground rod need to keep
clear of anything plugged in the wall, as you said it comes right up the
neutral.   Got nailed from a scope probe, scope was off I was not
touching anything but got too close to that probe with my forearm and snap.

The highest ( K) dielectric standoff compound is mad by 3-M and has the 
ywo requisits you need!   Super conductivity of thermal energy and has 
the highest known  K value (electrical stand-oof). I had quarts of it 
for it is common around these cooling devices.


On 7/11/2018 9:31 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> I have been looking for electrical insulators that are good thermal 
> conductors.  the best I came up with are diamond and cubic boron arsenide
>
> Have been running tests with different plasma devices such as light 
> bulbs, plasma spheres, neon lamps and looking for the magnetic re 
> connection.  Not much luck until today with a very long UV lamp that 
> during a ground spike spun the compass, exciting stuff!  Even though 
> running isolated on batteries to independent ground rod need to keep 
> clear of anything plugged in the wall, as you said it comes right up 
> the neutral.   Got nailed from a scope probe, scope was off I was not 
> touching anything but got too close to that probe with my forearm and 
> snap.
>
>

Norm,

Are you referring to a thermal paste like white silicon?

Seems to me with the proper ionic check valve one could negative charge
large plates of copper and create electronic AC, had any luck with this?


On 7/14/2018 4:42 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> The highest ( K) dielectric standoff compound is mad by 3-M and has
> the ywo requisits you need!   Super conductivity of thermal energy and
> has the highest known  K value (electrical stand-oof). I had quarts of
> it for it is common around these cooling devices.
>
>
> On 7/11/2018 9:31 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> I have been looking for electrical insulators that are good thermal
>> conductors.  the best I came up with are diamond and cubic boron
>> arsenide
>>
>> Have been running tests with different plasma devices such as light
>> bulbs, plasma spheres, neon lamps and looking for the magnetic re
>> connection.  Not much luck until today with a very long UV lamp that
>> during a ground spike spun the compass, exciting stuff!  Even though
>> running isolated on batteries to independent ground rod need to keep
>> clear of anything plugged in the wall, as you said it comes right up
>> the neutral.   Got nailed from a scope probe, scope was off I was not
>> touching anything but got too close to that probe with my forearm and
>> snap.
>>
>
>

Norm, what's the 3M stuff name, I'll look it up?
FYI
Dist. Water is a great dielectric (80 I think) and thermally conductive too. 
Takes great power to change temp and has many unique properties. 

    On Saturday, July 14, 2018 6:42 PM, "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

      The highest ( K) dielectric standoff compound is mad by 3-M and has the ywo requisits you need!   Super conductivity of thermal energy and has the highest known  K value (electrical stand-oof). I had quarts of it for it is common around these cooling devices.
  
 On 7/11/2018 9:31 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
      Norm, I have been looking for electrical insulators that are good thermal conductors.  the best I came up with are diamond and cubic boron arsenide 
  Have been running tests with different plasma devices such as light bulbs, plasma spheres, neon lamps and looking for the magnetic re connection.  Not much luck until today with a very long UV lamp that during a ground spike spun the compass, exciting stuff!  Even though running isolated on batteries to independent ground rod need to keep clear of anything plugged in the wall, as you said  it comes right up the neutral.   Got nailed from a scope probe, scope was off I was not touching anything but got too close to that probe with my forearm and snap.
   
 
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Norm,

I ran into this stuff while researching magnetic refrigeration, I think
it has many other uses such as the one you proposed earlier with the
Sieback energy harvester.  Extremely interesting substance, very
expensive due to the telurium so unfortunately the most expensive solar
cell.


On 7/15/2018 7:10 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Biblical!  In the beginning (Genius One) the was Bismuth Telluride:  
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bismuth_telluride
>
> On 7/15/2018 9:03 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> The questions center around materials that display outstanding
>> electro dielectric stand-off capabilities (K) and at same time are
>> superior thermal conductors.  I had large quantities for this
>> silicone based white thermo- electric potting compound.  If you stick
>> your finger into it you get a refrigeration effect since it conducts
>> thermal energy at a rapid rate. You have touched on a whole another
>> science here as you will see. The old methods of PN junction material
>> was :
>>
>> http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/152/1/012046
>>
>> With the advent of understanding nano-particle manipulation we find that material can be engineered to yield both sides of the equation, excellent electrical conductivity but also provide thermal insulation. Opposite is also provided by the nano-particle science. You can spend a lot of time understanding the SCIENCE here.
>>
>> Re: [EVGRAY] Secrets of Antihravity propulsion.  Parallel topic on the discussion group here!  Interesting if you go back in history to the meeting held at Wright Patterson AFB dealing with the (K) dielectric capability to enable a mach 5 anti-gravity aircraft. The Conference dealt with Barrycentric, Counterbarry (Anti-gravity).   The basic (K) requirements layed out have been far exceeded in the thermo-electric community as seen by the use of nano technology!  Just read up on this science.  
>> https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/cm401990c
>> https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/pssa.201532602
>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18356488/?i=3&from=/22015704/related
>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/29371907/?i=5&from=/22015704/related
>> https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/materials-science/yttrium-oxide
>>
>> With an understanding of the current Industrial Technology you can see that a continuous film of proper junction material can be made to build the more efficient direct conversion of heat energy into electric current in a plate solar collector as I have advocated. Direct thermo electric conversion vs Photo voltaic conversion (only 10% efficient).
>>
>> BTW! Dow Chemical & 3M make the silicon paste potting compounds.  Just do your research on your particular requirements.
>> Happy Energy collection! and I hope you get your saucer off the ground.  Lol
>>
>> On 7/15/2018 2:38 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> Are you referring to a thermal paste like white silicon?
>>>
>>> Seems to me with the proper ionic check valve one could negative
>>> charge large plates of copper and create electronic AC, had any luck
>>> with this?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/14/2018 4:42 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> The highest ( K) dielectric standoff compound is mad by 3-M and has
>>>> the ywo requisits you need!   Super conductivity of thermal energy
>>>> and has the highest known  K value (electrical stand-oof). I had
>>>> quarts of it for it is common around these cooling devices.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/11/2018 9:31 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been looking for electrical insulators that are good
>>>>> thermal conductors.  the best I came up with are diamond and cubic
>>>>> boron arsenide
>>>>>
>>>>> Have been running tests with different plasma devices such as
>>>>> light bulbs, plasma spheres, neon lamps and looking for the
>>>>> magnetic re connection.  Not much luck until today with a very
>>>>> long UV lamp that during a ground spike spun the compass, exciting
>>>>> stuff!  Even though running isolated on batteries to independent
>>>>> ground rod need to keep clear of anything plugged in the wall, as
>>>>> you said it comes right up the neutral.   Got nailed from a scope
>>>>> probe, scope was off I was not touching anything but got too close
>>>>> to that probe with my forearm and snap.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

The questions center around materials that display outstanding electro 
dielectric stand-off capabilities (K) and at same time are superior 
thermal conductors.  I had large quantities for this silicone based 
white thermo- electric potting compound.  If you stick your finger into 
it you get a refrigeration effect since it conducts thermal energy at a 
rapid rate. You have touched on a whole another science here as you will 
see. The old methods of PN junction material was :

http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/152/1/012046

With the advent of understanding nano-particle manipulation we find that material can be engineered to yield both sides of the equation, excellent electrical conductivity but also provide thermal insulation. Opposite is also provided by the nano-particle science. You can spend a lot of time understanding the SCIENCE here.

Re: [EVGRAY] Secrets of Antihravity propulsion.  Parallel topic on the discussion group here!  Interesting if you go back in history to the meeting held at Wright Patterson AFB dealing with the (K) dielectric capability to enable a mach 5 anti-gravity aircraft. The Conference dealt with Barrycentric, Counterbarry (Anti-gravity).   The basic (K) requirements layed out have been far exceeded in the thermo-electric community as seen by the use of nano technology!  Just read up on this science.
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/cm401990c
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/pssa.201532602
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18356488/?i=3&from=/22015704/related
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/29371907/?i=5&from=/22015704/related
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/materials-science/yttrium-oxide

With an understanding of the current Industrial Technology you can see that a continuous film of proper junction material can be made to build the more efficient direct conversion of heat energy into electric current in a plate solar collector as I have advocated. Direct thermo electric conversion vs Photo voltaic conversion (only 10% efficient).

BTW! Dow Chemical & 3M make the silicon paste potting compounds.  Just do your research on your particular requirements.
Happy Energy collection! and I hope you get your saucer off the ground.  Lol


On 7/15/2018 2:38 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> Are you referring to a thermal paste like white silicon?
>
> Seems to me with the proper ionic check valve one could negative 
> charge large plates of copper and create electronic AC, had any luck 
> with this?
>
>
> On 7/14/2018 4:42 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> The highest ( K) dielectric standoff compound is mad by 3-M and has 
>> the ywo requisits you need!   Super conductivity of thermal energy 
>> and has the highest known  K value (electrical stand-oof). I had 
>> quarts of it for it is common around these cooling devices.
>>
>>
>> On 7/11/2018 9:31 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> I have been looking for electrical insulators that are good thermal 
>>> conductors.  the best I came up with are diamond and cubic boron 
>>> arsenide
>>>
>>> Have been running tests with different plasma devices such as light 
>>> bulbs, plasma spheres, neon lamps and looking for the magnetic re 
>>> connection.  Not much luck until today with a very long UV lamp that 
>>> during a ground spike spun the compass, exciting stuff!  Even though 
>>> running isolated on batteries to independent ground rod need to keep 
>>> clear of anything plugged in the wall, as you said it comes right up 
>>> the neutral.   Got nailed from a scope probe, scope was off I was 
>>> not touching anything but got too close to that probe with my 
>>> forearm and snap.
>>>
>>
>
>

Biblical!  In the beginning (Genius One) the was Bismuth Telluride:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bismuth_telluride


On 7/15/2018 9:03 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> The questions center around materials that display outstanding electro 
> dielectric stand-off capabilities (K) and at same time are superior 
> thermal conductors.  I had large quantities for this silicone based 
> white thermo- electric potting compound.  If you stick your finger 
> into it you get a refrigeration effect since it conducts thermal 
> energy at a rapid rate. You have touched on a whole another science 
> here as you will see. The old methods of PN junction material was :
>
> http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/152/1/012046
>
> With the advent of understanding nano-particle manipulation we find that material can be engineered to yield both sides of the equation, excellent electrical conductivity but also provide thermal insulation. Opposite is also provided by the nano-particle science. You can spend a lot of time understanding the SCIENCE here.
>
> Re: [EVGRAY] Secrets of Antihravity propulsion.  Parallel topic on the discussion group here!  Interesting if you go back in history to the meeting held at Wright Patterson AFB dealing with the (K) dielectric capability to enable a mach 5 anti-gravity aircraft. The Conference dealt with Barrycentric, Counterbarry (Anti-gravity).   The basic (K) requirements layed out have been far exceeded in the thermo-electric community as seen by the use of nano technology!  Just read up on this science.
> https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/cm401990c
> https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/pssa.201532602
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18356488/?i=3&from=/22015704/related
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/29371907/?i=5&from=/22015704/related
> https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/materials-science/yttrium-oxide
>
> With an understanding of the current Industrial Technology you can see that a continuous film of proper junction material can be made to build the more efficient direct conversion of heat energy into electric current in a plate solar collector as I have advocated. Direct thermo electric conversion vs Photo voltaic conversion (only 10% efficient).
>
> BTW! Dow Chemical & 3M make the silicon paste potting compounds.  Just do your research on your particular requirements.
> Happy Energy collection! and I hope you get your saucer off the ground.  Lol
>
> On 7/15/2018 2:38 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> Are you referring to a thermal paste like white silicon?
>>
>> Seems to me with the proper ionic check valve one could negative 
>> charge large plates of copper and create electronic AC, had any luck 
>> with this?
>>
>>
>> On 7/14/2018 4:42 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> The highest ( K) dielectric standoff compound is mad by 3-M and has 
>>> the ywo requisits you need! Super conductivity of thermal energy and 
>>> has the highest known  K value (electrical stand-oof). I had quarts 
>>> of it for it is common around these cooling devices.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/11/2018 9:31 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Norm,
>>>>
>>>> I have been looking for electrical insulators that are good thermal 
>>>> conductors.  the best I came up with are diamond and cubic boron 
>>>> arsenide
>>>>
>>>> Have been running tests with different plasma devices such as light 
>>>> bulbs, plasma spheres, neon lamps and looking for the magnetic re 
>>>> connection.  Not much luck until today with a very long UV lamp 
>>>> that during a ground spike spun the compass, exciting stuff!  Even 
>>>> though running isolated on batteries to independent ground rod need 
>>>> to keep clear of anything plugged in the wall, as you said it comes 
>>>> right up the neutral.   Got nailed from a scope probe, scope was 
>>>> off I was not touching anything but got too close to that probe 
>>>> with my forearm and snap.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> 
>