Re: [EVGRAY] Capacitive coupling of energy.
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[1/5] Re: [EVGRAY] Capacitive coupling of energy.
2017-12-28T08:56:55+00:00
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Thaelin
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Thanks much Kone, that was what I was frying to find. Width is 1.5 to 1 length. Core .5 of magnet size. Ok now to the winding stage. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 12/27/17, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Capacitive coupling of energy. To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, December 27, 2017, 8:03 AM Hi ThalienI just watched this viudeo about Robert Adams motor a couple days ago, it has the information you want....for cores, mjake them half the width of magnets it is suggested.......I think they have something wrong, as they mention airgap of motor coils to magnets at 12mm but that is ridiculous airgap really, and motor would have no good power or speed... I think there is mix-up by author, and that 12mm is the best gap for the generator coils which are adjustable in their posision and and also are clipped on-off too, to prevent lenz law lugging....I think the 12mm is good gap for generator coils, since this distance setsup sort of a phase shift or time delay as to when the cores and coils saturate...in fact I just re-did my Muller generator and set the generator coils now at 12mm airgap[, but motor coils are very tight about 1.5mm///////anyways here is the video....Also Robert Adams did not like John Bedini since he considered the School girl motor a direct coipy of the Adams motor and he never gave any credit to Robert for it...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2bPDDWqSvM #yiv2383320837 #yiv2383320837 -- #yiv2383320837ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #yiv2383320837 #yiv2383320837ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #yiv2383320837 #yiv2383320837ygrp-mkp #yiv2383320837hd { 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[2/5] Re: [EVGRAY] Capacitive coupling of energy.
2017-12-28T11:30:45+00:00
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Douglas Konzen
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Hi Thealien If you want to try something good, when you wind your motor coils, start from the backend of your core, (end to be away from rotor magnets) and then bend the wire 90 degrees when at the end of the row of winds, and pull it back straight to the start (backend of core) then bend wire again 90 degrees, and continue winds for the next layer and all winds going in same direction....you might want to insulate and protect that straight-back pulled section of wire to prevent chaffing form the row of wind going over top of it, such as coating wire with epoxy while winding, or small pieces of tape to encase or heat shrink or whatever as over time vibrations can wear down the varnish coating over the magnet wire...my favorite way is to just coat all wire with quick dry epoxy while winding up coils -.just be sure to wear throw away rubber gloves you will have no problems with the extra mess....other good way is wrap the entire layer/row when finished with with Teflon plumbing tape, the cut thin strip of electrical tape to cover over the top of the straight back pulled portion of wind... Anyways these are called directionally wound motor coil winds, and they concentrate the flux to hit the rotor magnets in a more concentrated and more powerful cannon-like blast against the rotor magnets....this is similar to difference between the winds inside a omni-directional microphone, which picks up all sounds everywhere in room, as compared to more popular uni-idirectional microphone, that has directional type winds inside of them, so that only the singers voice is picked up instead of everything in room so better recordings can be made with no bleeding through of un wanted sounds....... For generator coils, I don't think much difference there, just do those back and forth regular type coil winds unless perhaps the generator coil winds are pulsed to push or pull rotor magnets for brief time... Robert Adams most advanced motor I heard had copper tube as windings, and he water cooled them and ran it on 400V but this is just from hear-say....maybe the cores were cooled too and/or instead of hollow magnet wire... if you search on youtube "truthbeeknown" on you can maybe contact the very nice guy Ian-Coke Richards, who knows all about Robert Adams motors, and in fact he even talked to him on the phone a couple years before Robert Adams died..here is link below to one of his videos....he used to have a very good website but it is not up anymore that was called Mintakafulcrum.net https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad3kGYeKf6Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad3kGYeKf6Q ciao Kone
[3/5] Re: [EVGRAY] Capacitive coupling of energy.
2017-12-28T12:42:08+00:00
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onielsen2000
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Hi Kone, "he used to have a very good website but it is not up anymore that was called Mintakafulcrum.net" The WayBack Machine has several copies of that site: https://web.archive.org/web/20090416121031/http://www.mintakafulcrum.net/ https://web.archive.org/web/20090416121031/http://www.mintakafulcrum.net/ Regards Ole ---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote : Hi Thealien If you want to try something good, when you wind your motor coils, start from the backend of your core, (end to be away from rotor magnets) and then bend the wire 90 degrees when at the end of the row of winds, and pull it back straight to the start (backend of core) then bend wire again 90 degrees, and continue winds for the next layer and all winds going in same direction....you might want to insulate and protect that straight-back pulled section of wire to prevent chaffing form the row of wind going over top of it, such as coating wire with epoxy while winding, or small pieces of tape to encase or heat shrink or whatever as over time vibrations can wear down the varnish coating over the magnet wire...my favorite way is to just coat all wire with quick dry epoxy while winding up coils -.just be sure to wear throw away rubber gloves you will have no problems with the extra mess....other good way is wrap the entire layer/row when finished with with Teflon plumbing tape, the cut thin strip of electrical tape to cover over the top of the straight back pulled portion of wind... Anyways these are called directionally wound motor coil winds, and they concentrate the flux to hit the rotor magnets in a more concentrated and more powerful cannon-like blast against the rotor magnets....this is similar to difference between the winds inside a omni-directional microphone, which picks up all sounds everywhere in room, as compared to more popular uni-idirectional microphone, that has directional type winds inside of them, so that only the singers voice is picked up instead of everything in room so better recordings can be made with no bleeding through of un wanted sounds....... For generator coils, I don't think much difference there, just do those back and forth regular type coil winds unless perhaps the generator coil winds are pulsed to push or pull rotor magnets for brief time... Robert Adams most advanced motor I heard had copper tube as windings, and he water cooled them and ran it on 400V but this is just from hear-say....maybe the cores were cooled too and/or instead of hollow magnet wire... if you search on youtube "truthbeeknown" on you can maybe contact the very nice guy Ian-Coke Richards, who knows all about Robert Adams motors, and in fact he even talked to him on the phone a couple years before Robert Adams died..here is link below to one of his videos....he used to have a very good website but it is not up anymore that was called Mintakafulcrum.net https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad3kGYeKf6Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad3kGYeKf6Q ciao Kone
[4/5] Re: [EVGRAY] Capacitive coupling of energy.
2017-12-28T13:47:36+00:00
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Douglas Konzen
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Hi Ole Thanks for that page link - this is from 2004, he was still going strong up to 2008 as seen from his youtube videos then he seemed to take a break, last youtube video was 3 years ago comparing normal fan motor to one of his DC pulse motors and he got X3 better efficiency... A fellow named Joe from Canada called me on phone a few years ago "way back" then, and said he had some big Canadian investors lined up and wanted to invest in some free energy tech, so I had him contact the Mullers, as well as Ian too, (keeping it in Canada) and the Mullers got back to me said he was insulting, called them liars about something or other, so I decided not to call back Joe or deal with him since it went badly with Mullers and Joe was very belligerent and demanding towards them they said to me and considered him a complete jerk were the exact words.... But things went well with Ian, and Ian told me he got lots of funding for lab improvements from Joe but I don't know exactly how much could of been 10K could of been 100K don't know.,,,,...anyways turns out later (I heard from Mullers) that Joe is the same guy who "funded" Magnetcoaster guy Richard Willis too (Magnacoaster never worked right never went anywhere cost 9K to get one and none worked)....maybe Ian had to take down his site and not be public anymore since he got this funding I don't know I hope he is OK I remember his lab assistant died overnight right after publishing a report and it really shocked him plus he got visited by black helicopters once too is another story...Anyways thanks for the link... ciaoKone
[5/5] Re: [EVGRAY] Capacitive coupling of energy.
2017-12-28T23:05:40+00:00
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Warren Keillor
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Hi DougWe seem to be free of MIB and odd helicoptors here in this part of Ontario.Everybody seems to know everyone else, and even link up with folks we know in Toronto, or someone who knows them.Strangers, are very strange, indeed.After a few days, everyone will know you, and at least, your second cousins.If it is top secret, there will likely be a local journalist covering the story for the little newspaper. And anyway, you can always ask Mildred at the store in town. She knows everything about everyone.We'll have the licence plate number, the car rental place, and the hotel they are staying at, so MIB might have a hard time, here, being chased down the lane by a pack of big black dogs, at the very least, and and worse yet perhaps, a brace of scary smart lawyers, should they think they are above the law.So far, it is very peacefull, and full of nice people around our new home.The propane tank freezing up, and the furnace shutting down during the night in -27C, is another challenge though.Where is Zilano's 160 kilowatt generator when we really, really, need one?Maybe somebody has to go to Slovenia, cap in hand, and beg for a little assistance building one, or preferably, fly her to Canada to build one for us, out here in the country.I hear she also lives in the country, keeping horses though, and staying off the net.Cheers Warren Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 8:47 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: Hi Ole Thanks for that page link - this is from 2004, he was still going strong up to 2008 as seen from his youtube videos then he seemed to take a break, last youtube video was 3 years ago comparing normal fan motor to one of his DC pulse motors and he got X3 better efficiency... A fellow named Joe from Canada called me on phone a few years ago "way back" then, and said he had some big Canadian investors lined up and wanted to invest in some free energy tech, so I had him contact the Mullers, as well as Ian too, (keeping it in Canada) and the Mullers got back to me said he was insulting, called them liars about something or other, so I decided not to call back Joe or deal with him since it went badly with Mullers and Joe was very belligerent and demanding towards them they said to me and considered him a complete jerk were the exact words.... But things went well with Ian, and Ian told me he got lots of funding for lab improvements from Joe but I don't know exactly how much could of been 10K could of been 100K don't know.,,,,...anyways turns out later (I heard from Mullers) that Joe is the same guy who "funded" Magnetcoaster guy Richard Willis too (Magnacoaster never worked right never went anywhere cost 9K to get one and none worked)....maybe Ian had to take down his site and not be public anymore since he got this funding I don't know I hope he is OK I remember his lab assistant died overnight right after publishing a report and it really shocked him plus he got visited by black helicopters once too is another story...Anyways thanks for the link... ciaoKone #yiv0574587068 -- #yiv0574587068ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv0574587068 #yiv0574587068ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv0574587068 #yiv0574587068ygrp-mkp #yiv0574587068hd 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