To the "Flat Earthers"!!

https://www.disclose.tv/found-after-two-years-lost-weather-balloon-gopro-with-astounding-footage-from-space-314075
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Norman my friend.... Outstanding post!
If that don't enlighten people to the "Truth" of this "Flat Earth" matter, most likely nothing will!
 

    On Wednesday, December 27, 2017, 6:02:34 AM PST, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     

https://www.disclose.tv/found-after-two-years-lost-weather-balloon-gopro-with-astounding-footage-from-space-314075
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You didn't see the Pope waving from behind the billboard ? Aka earth ?
On Dec 27, 2017 1:17 PM, "John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> The earth is indeed an almost perfect sphere, if it were the size of a
> marble, without oceans, it would seem perfectly spherical and smooth too!
>
> Anyway that video proves noting, if the earth were the size of a Basket
> ball, the earth atmosphere would be about the thickness of a sheet, which
> is to say a fraction of a mm thick.
>
> So is you take a photo a fraction of a mm from the surface of a basket
> ball, would you see a curve?
>
> Nope!
>
> And that is why the curve you see in that video is not the curve of the
> earth, but the result of the fish eye lens.
>
> Look at the video at about a minute in, you can see the curve of the earth
> goes positive and negative (a concave earth) as the camera wobbles.
>
> Flat earth is impossible for hundreds of reasons, but that video really
> doesn't help prove anything.
>
> John Berry
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 4:25 AM, Darrell Evans [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Norman my friend.... Outstanding post!
>>
>> If that don't enlighten people to the "Truth" of this "Flat Earth"
>> matter, most likely nothing will!
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 27, 2017, 6:02:34 AM PST, Norman Wootan
>> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.disclose.tv/found-after-two-years-lost-weather-balloon-gopro-with-astounding-footage-from-space-314075
>>
>>
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>> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android>
>>
>>
> 
>

Hi Smokey,

"Anybody that can tell me why there are two Heavens seen at the Equator (Kenya), one rotating CCW (North Inner Circle) and CW (South Outer Circle) will go to the top of the class."
Consider it as one heaven seen from a camera looking forward and sideways at the same time. The camera is then placed at the rim of a spinning ball or wheel (the equator). As the camera sees towards (almost) each end of the spinning axis it will see both left hand and right hand spin at the same time.

Going to the southern hemisphere the Sun raises in the east. From down there looking north toward the sun the trace of the sun is seen going from right to left. On the northern hemisphere looking south toward the sun the trace of the sun is seen as going from left to right.

Or try looking at a bicycle wheel from both sides when traveling forwards and find out if the wheel goes clockwise or counterclockwise or both! Then which way will a camera see the space around it when mounted at the wheel on each side?

"My own interpretation of our World hints most strongly at being a total stationary flat plane but recent observations as George has also pointed out with respect the Sun position, is suggesting something a little more complex and we are working on that now."
I don't think such a theory can be proven. It will be a gigantic patchwork like many theoretical scientists are doing. Tear it down and start all over like Wilbert B. Smith did. The simple solution is the best according to Occam's razor. Use the Scientific method to make it simple. In the middle age the flat Earth theory became too complex for any explanation. Especially after making the planets orbit the Sun which made a simple theory to explain the astronomical observations. The powerful Catholic Church couldn't convince the scientists even though some scientists were burned for promoting their theories or observations. Then the church got split up. Now we have the internet to spread information. This is hard time for the ones who try to stop enlightenment as the curtain is opening up for more light. The darkening people now try to shut off the enlightenment by using disinformation and propaganda. Some may be misguided but not all of us.

"Before you ever consider a Flat Earth you need to answer the question, are we rotating or not and if you have ever travelled in an Aircraft to another Country, the obvious answer is NO!"
What do you mean NO to rotating or NO to not rotating? When traveling in an aircraft or in a boat or in car you move relative to the air sea or ground. The ocean moves relative to the ground (very slowly) and the air also moves relative to the ground making it hard to land in fast blowing sideway wind. The ground moves relative to space. Thus everything moves relative to something else. Everything is spin which is the most basic thing in the universe from below to above.

Regards
Ole 

---In [email protected], <smokey9s@...> wrote :

 The Camera is looking down and that is why you see a convex curve at the top.
 Point the Camera up into the sky and you will see a concave curve, the exact opposite.
 This is what Lenses do!
 God gave you an eye that reverses what you see so this doesn't happen to you when you look up and down - you were given a perfect Lens.
 It will be an automatic function of the experimenters to point the camera down as they want to see what is below.
 See attached.
 Anybody that can tell me why there are two Heavens seen at the Equator (Kenya), one rotating CCW (North Inner Circle) and CW (South Outer Circle) will go to the top of the class.
 Second set of pictures, I believe, came from Singapore, also on the Equator.
 I have travelled by ship over the Equator a total of 18 times and you need to do this to appreciate that we are not where they say we are.
 
 My own interpretation of our World hints most strongly at being a total stationary flat plane but recent observations as George has also pointed out with respect the Sun position, is suggesting something a little more complex and we are working on that now.
 Before you ever consider a Flat Earth you need to answer the question, are we rotating or not and if you have ever travelled in an Aircraft to another Country, the obvious answer is NO!
 As the Balloon is also telling you that we are stationary.
 I would not be able to make long range rainfall over 4,000 kms if I were on a rotating Globe.
 
 Smokey 
 
 On 28/12/2017 1:02 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   https://www.disclose.tv/found-after-two-years-lost-weather-balloon-gopro-with-astounding-footage-from-space-314075 https://www.disclose.tv/found-after-two-years-lost-weather-balloon-gopro-with-astounding-footage-from-space-314075
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The earth is indeed an almost perfect sphere, if it were the size of a
marble, without oceans, it would seem perfectly spherical and smooth too!

Anyway that video proves noting, if the earth were the size of a Basket
ball, the earth atmosphere would be about the thickness of a sheet, which
is to say a fraction of a mm thick.

So is you take a photo a fraction of a mm from the surface of a basket
ball, would you see a curve?

Nope!

And that is why the curve you see in that video is not the curve of the
earth, but the result of the fish eye lens.

Look at the video at about a minute in, you can see the curve of the earth
goes positive and negative (a concave earth) as the camera wobbles.

Flat earth is impossible for hundreds of reasons, but that video really
doesn't help prove anything.

John Berry

On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 4:25 AM, Darrell Evans [email protected]
[EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Norman my friend.... Outstanding post!
>
> If that don't enlighten people to the "Truth" of this "Flat Earth" matter,
> most likely nothing will!
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 27, 2017, 6:02:34 AM PST, Norman Wootan
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> https://www.disclose.tv/found-after-two-years-lost-weather-balloon-gopro-with-astounding-footage-from-space-314075
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android>
>
> 
>

concave-geonal orbit is the correct world as descriptor to what you see... and no its not due to earth being flat but due to how much assholes reside on its surface ...

get a gyroscope experiment with it , i think you will get the correct answers ..

(H)

The Camera is looking down and that is why you see a convex curve at the 
top.
Point the Camera up into the sky and you will see a concave curve, the 
exact opposite.
This is what Lenses do!
God gave you an eye that reverses what you see so this doesn't happen to 
you when you look up and down - you were given a perfect Lens.
It will be an automatic function of the experimenters to point the 
camera down as they want to see what is below.
See attached.
Anybody that can tell me why there are two Heavens seen at the Equator 
(Kenya), one rotating CCW (North Inner Circle) and CW (South Outer 
Circle) will go to the top of the class.
Second set of pictures, I believe, came from Singapore, also on the Equator.
I have travelled by ship over the Equator a total of 18 times and you 
need to do this to appreciate that we are not where they say we are.

My own interpretation of our World hints most strongly at being a total 
stationary flat plane but recent observations as George has also pointed 
out with respect the Sun position, is suggesting something a little more 
complex and we are working on that now.
Before you ever consider a Flat Earth you need to answer the question, 
are we rotating or not and if you have ever travelled in an Aircraft to 
another Country, the obvious answer is NO!
As the Balloon is also telling you that we are stationary.
I would not be able to make long range rainfall over 4,000 kms if I were 
on a rotating Globe.

Smokey

On 28/12/2017 1:02 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> https://www.disclose.tv/found-after-two-years-lost-weather-balloon-gopro-with-astounding-footage-from-space-314075
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android>
>

Well here are some results of Gyroscope experiments to prove the flat earth
George
   
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      From: "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Thursday, 28 December 2017, 19:28
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
   
    concave-geonal orbit is the correct world as descriptor to what you see... and no its not due to earth being flat but due to how much assholes reside on its surface ...

get a gyroscope experiment with it , i think you will get the correct answers ..

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Hi George,

The first video: The gyroscope doesn't align with the earth as claimed. The gyroscope holds the position it's started in which makes it point in whatever direction in space it had when started regardless of the movement of the earth. To be used for pointing north it must be aligned to the rotational axis of the earth to keep that direction. Making some small friction between the flywheel of the gyroscope and the rotating earth will make it eventually align with the rotational axis of the earth. This self-aligning version of the gyroscope is a gyrocompass. It's allowed to study those things yourself which is easy by using the internet and a search engine or reading some books on physics.

Gyroscope: https://wiki2.org/en/Gyroscope https://wiki2.org/en/Gyroscope
Gyrocompass: https://wiki2.org/en/Gyrocompass https://wiki2.org/en/Gyrocompass

As I expect the rest of the videos as being of the same standard I find it a totally waste of time watching them. Please do your own research. Do some study. Use the scientific method. I don't know how to avoid fake science without doing some research. It's very time consuming though. I don't know either why people make those videos of fake science. One reason could be YouTube paying for making videos no matter being true or false. At least that was the reason for the more than one hundred news channels in a small area of Croatia (I think it was) making fake news during the American election according to a Danish journalist that visited some of the people behind those channels. They were just students making money by inventing their own news stories. Some of them made enough money for a living by inventing news stories. It certainly didn't make the stories true.

Regards
Ole

---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :

 Well here are some results of Gyroscope experiments to prove the flat earth
 

 George

 11:27 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8U2hyoK8IU Play next Play now 
 Why Gyroscopes Proves Flat Earth - Case Closed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8U2hyoK8IU - Duration: 11:27. Globe Skeptic https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGMHcFZjIFfvK3doe_nt5vA
 2 years ago 178,192 views
 Here is a great expose of why gyroscope proves the Flat Earth. Interesting link of a discussion between a submarine chief officer and 
 




 14:20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DVhoD-5Keg Play next Play now 
 [Ultimate Flat Earth Proof] Stationary Flat Earth – The Gyroscope Doesn't Lie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DVhoD-5Keg - Duration: 14:20. GLOBEBUSTERS https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXIovaBdnA4UHdd-TZ-MqRg
 10 months ago 14,322 views
 Well here it is - the final nail in the globe earth coffin. Now we know our gyroscopes ARE sensitive enough to detect the alleged 
 




 10:14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWlGRaAAV_Y Play next Play now 
 FLAT EARTH - THE EARTH DOESN'T MOVE - GYRO PROOF (ONCE AGAIN) - MIRROR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWlGRaAAV_Y - Duration: 10:14. odiupicku https://www.youtube.com/user/odiupicku
 1 year ago 52,820 views
 ORIGINAL VIDEO YOU CAN SEE HERE : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxYE-rce_3Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxYE-rce_3Y.
 




 25:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deoLBQTtXJw Play next Play now 
 Flat Earth and the Gyroscope Myth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deoLBQTtXJw - Duration: 25:30. Rob Durham https://www.youtube.com/user/Neomagik99
 2 years ago 209,428 views
 Do gyroscopes really appear to drift over time due to the spin of the earth? Have you tested it for yourself? US Navy training video 
 




 15:16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLrxBDBD9oI Play next Play now 
 Airplanes PROVE Flat Earth!! Gyroscopes Remain LEVEL Entire Flight!! | FLAT EARTH PROOF 8 pt3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLrxBDBD9oI - Duration: 15:16. Feed Your Mind https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB1Xo-21g5dzPqH_pg0lLkQ
 1 year ago 28,881 views
 Flat Earth PROOFS [by Feed Your Mind] - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLt36ZcQGl6srt_-aQl... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLt36ZcQGl6srt_-aQlEAaHQeizaxwnh3v 
 




 3:16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0L7NxP7o_0 


 
 


 From: "arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Thursday, 28 December 2017, 19:28
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
 
 
   concave-geonal orbit is the correct world as descriptor to what you see... and no its not due to earth being flat but due to how much assholes reside on its surface ...

get a gyroscope experiment with it , i think you will get the correct answers ..

(H)

I think I was being followed yesterday about nine am it I was out side a
looked behind myself and dam it was a shadow person right on my tail . it
left about noon man that was close thought I was a goner .
On Dec 29, 2017 6:30 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi George,
>
> The first video: The gyroscope doesn't align with the earth as claimed.
> The gyroscope holds the position it's started in which makes it point in
> whatever direction in space it had when started regardless of the movement
> of the earth. To be used for pointing north it must be aligned to the
> rotational axis of the earth to keep that direction. Making some small
> friction between the flywheel of the gyroscope and the rotating earth will
> make it eventually align with the rotational axis of the earth. This
> self-aligning version of the gyroscope is a gyrocompass. It's allowed to
> study those things yourself which is easy by using the internet and a
> search engine or reading some books on physics.
>
> Gyroscope: https://wiki2.org/en/Gyroscope
> Gyrocompass: https://wiki2.org/en/Gyrocompass
>
> As I expect the rest of the videos as being of the same standard I find it
> a totally waste of time watching them. Please do your own research. Do some
> study. Use the scientific method. I don't know how to avoid fake science
> without doing some research. It's very time consuming though. I don't know
> either why people make those videos of fake science. One reason could be
> YouTube paying for making videos no matter being true or false. At least
> that was the reason for the more than one hundred news channels in a small
> area of Croatia (I think it was) making fake news during the American
> election according to a Danish journalist that visited some of the people
> behind those channels. They were just students making money by inventing
> their own news stories. Some of them made enough money for a living by
> inventing news stories. It certainly didn't make the stories true.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
> ---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :
>
> Well here are some results of Gyroscope experiments to prove the flat earth
>
> George
>
>    1.
>       1. 11:27
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8U2hyoK8IU>
>          - Play next
>          - Play now
>       Why Gyroscopes Proves Flat Earth - Case Closed
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8U2hyoK8IU> - Duration: 11:27.
>       Globe Skeptic
>       <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGMHcFZjIFfvK3doe_nt5vA>
>       - 2 years ago
>          - 178,192 views
>       Here is a great expose of why *gyroscope proves* the *Flat Earth*.
>       Interesting link of a discussion between a submarine chief officer and
>       2. 14:20
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DVhoD-5Keg>
>          - Play next
>          - Play now
>       [Ultimate Flat Earth Proof] Stationary Flat Earth – The Gyroscope
>       Doesn't Lie <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DVhoD-5Keg> -
>       Duration: 14:20.
>       GLOBEBUSTERS
>       <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXIovaBdnA4UHdd-TZ-MqRg>
>       - 10 months ago
>          - 14,322 views
>       Well here it is - the final nail in the globe *earth* coffin. Now
>       we know our *gyroscopes* ARE sensitive enough to detect the alleged
>       3. 10:14
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWlGRaAAV_Y>
>          - Play next
>          - Play now
>       FLAT EARTH - THE EARTH DOESN'T MOVE - GYRO PROOF (ONCE AGAIN) -
>       MIRROR <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWlGRaAAV_Y> - Duration:
>       10:14.
>       odiupicku <https://www.youtube.com/user/odiupicku>
>       - 1 year ago
>          - 52,820 views
>       ORIGINAL VIDEO YOU CAN SEE HERE : https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>       v=IxYE-rce_3Y.
>       4. 25:30
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deoLBQTtXJw>
>          - Play next
>          - Play now
>       Flat Earth and the Gyroscope Myth
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deoLBQTtXJw> - Duration: 25:30.
>       Rob Durham <https://www.youtube.com/user/Neomagik99>
>       - 2 years ago
>          - 209,428 views
>       Do *gyroscopes* really appear to drift over time due to the spin of
>       the *earth*? Have you tested it for yourself? US Navy training
>       video
>       5. 15:16
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLrxBDBD9oI>
>          - Play next
>          - Play now
>       Airplanes PROVE Flat Earth!! Gyroscopes Remain LEVEL Entire
>       Flight!! | FLAT EARTH PROOF 8 pt3
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLrxBDBD9oI> - Duration: 15:16.
>       Feed Your Mind
>       <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB1Xo-21g5dzPqH_pg0lLkQ>
>       - 1 year ago
>          - 28,881 views
>       *Flat Earth* PROOFS [by Feed Your Mind] - https://www.youtube.com/
>       playlist?list=PLt36ZcQGl6srt_-aQl...
>       <https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLt36ZcQGl6srt_-aQlEAaHQeizaxwnh3v>
>       6. 3:16
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0L7NxP7o_0>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 28 December 2017, 19:28
> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
>
>
> concave-geonal orbit is the correct world as descriptor to what you see...
> and no its not due to earth being flat but due to how much assholes reside
> on its surface ...
>
> get a gyroscope experiment with it , i think you will get the correct
> answers ..
>
> (H)
>
>
> 
>

Gyroscopes prove the earth is a sphere.  I thought you were going to stop
posting flat earth bullshit George?

John Berry

On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 10:05 AM, george gray [email protected]
[EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Well here are some results of Gyroscope experiments to prove the flat earth
>
> George
>
>    1.
>       1. 11:27
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8U2hyoK8IU>
>          - Play next
>          - Play now
>       Why Gyroscopes Proves Flat Earth - Case Closed
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8U2hyoK8IU> - Duration: 11:27.
>       Globe Skeptic
>       <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGMHcFZjIFfvK3doe_nt5vA>
>       - 2 years ago
>          - 178,192 views
>       Here is a great expose of why *gyroscope proves* the *Flat Earth*.
>       Interesting link of a discussion between a submarine chief officer and
>       2. 14:20
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DVhoD-5Keg>
>          - Play next
>          - Play now
>       [Ultimate Flat Earth Proof] Stationary Flat Earth – The Gyroscope
>       Doesn't Lie <https://www.youtube..com/watch?v=8DVhoD-5Keg> -
>       Duration: 14:20.
>       GLOBEBUSTERS
>       <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXIovaBdnA4UHdd-TZ-MqRg>
>       - 10 months ago
>          - 14,322 views
>       Well here it is - the final nail in the globe *earth* coffin. Now
>       we know our *gyroscopes* ARE sensitive enough to detect the alleged
>       3. 10:14
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWlGRaAAV_Y>
>          - Play next
>          - Play now
>       FLAT EARTH - THE EARTH DOESN'T MOVE - GYRO PROOF (ONCE AGAIN) -
>       MIRROR <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWlGRaAAV_Y> - Duration:
>       10:14.
>       odiupicku <https://www.youtube.com/user/odiupicku>
>       - 1 year ago
>          - 52,820 views
>       ORIGINAL VIDEO YOU CAN SEE HERE : https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>       v=IxYE-rce_3Y.
>       4. 25:30
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deoLBQTtXJw>
>          - Play next
>          - Play now
>       Flat Earth and the Gyroscope Myth
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deoLBQTtXJw> - Duration: 25:30.
>       Rob Durham <https://www.youtube.com/user/Neomagik99>
>       - 2 years ago
>          - 209,428 views
>       Do *gyroscopes* really appear to drift over time due to the spin of
>       the *earth*? Have you tested it for yourself? US Navy training
>       video
>       5. 15:16
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLrxBDBD9oI>
>          - Play next
>          - Play now
>       Airplanes PROVE Flat Earth!! Gyroscopes Remain LEVEL Entire
>       Flight!! | FLAT EARTH PROOF 8 pt3
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLrxBDBD9oI> - Duration: 15:16.
>       Feed Your Mind
>       <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB1Xo-21g5dzPqH_pg0lLkQ>
>       - 1 year ago
>          - 28,881 views
>       *Flat Earth* PROOFS [by Feed Your Mind] - https://www.youtube.com/
>       playlist?list=PLt36ZcQGl6srt_-aQl...
>       <https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLt36ZcQGl6srt_-aQlEAaHQeizaxwnh3v>
>       6. 3:16
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0L7NxP7o_0>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 28 December 2017, 19:28
> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
>
>
> concave-geonal orbit is the correct world as descriptor to what you see...
> and no its not due to earth being flat but due to how much assholes reside
> on its surface ...
>
> get a gyroscope experiment with it , i think you will get the correct
> answers ..
>
> (H)
>
>
> 
>

Don't worry yourself none about that Jimmy my friend, we all have contact with things that are over our heads every day during the course of living life, so it's no biggie! Keep on keeping on!
 

    On Friday, December 29, 2017, 8:53:13 PM PST, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     


I think I was being followed yesterday about nine am it I was out side a looked behind myself and dam it was a shadow person right on my tail . it left about noon man that was close thought I was a goner .
On Dec 29, 2017 6:30 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

     
Hi George,

The first video: The gyroscope doesn't align with the earth as claimed. The gyroscope holds the position it's started in which makes it point in whatever direction in space it had when started regardless of the movement of the earth. To be used for pointing north it must be aligned to the rotational axis of the earth to keep that direction. Making some small friction between the flywheel of the gyroscope and the rotating earth will make it eventually align with the rotational axis of the earth. This self-aligning version of the gyroscope is a gyrocompass. It's allowed to study those things yourself which is easy by using the internet and a search engine or reading some books on physics.

Gyroscope: https://wiki2.org/en/Gyroscope
Gyrocompass: https://wiki2.org/en/ Gyrocompass

As I expect the rest of the videos as being of the same standard I find it a totally waste of time watching them. Please do your own research. Do some study. Use the scientific method. I don't know how to avoid fake science without doing some research. It's very time consuming though. I don't know either why people make those videos of fake science. One reason could be YouTube paying for making videos no matter being true or false. At least that was the reason for the more than one hundred news channels in a small area of Croatia (I think it was) making fake news during the American election according to a Danish journalist that visited some of the people behind those channels. They were just students making money by inventing their own news stories. Some of them made enough money for a living by inventing news stories. It certainly didn't make the stories true.

Regards
Ole

---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :


Well here are some results of Gyroscope experiments to prove the flat earth
George
   
   -       
      -  11:27          
         - Play next
         - Play now
          
Why Gyroscopes Proves Flat Earth - Case Closed - Duration: 11:27.
Globe Skeptic         
         - 2 years ago
         - 178,192 views
Here is a great expose of why gyroscope proves the Flat Earth. Interesting link of a discussion between a submarine chief officer and  
      -  14:20          
         - Play next
         - Play now
          
[Ultimate Flat Earth Proof] Stationary Flat Earth – The Gyroscope Doesn't Lie - Duration: 14:20.
GLOBEBUSTERS         
         - 10 months ago
         - 14,322 views
Well here it is - the final nail in the globe earth coffin. Now we know our gyroscopes ARE sensitive enough to detect the alleged  
      -  10:14          
         - Play next
         - Play now
          
FLAT EARTH - THE EARTH DOESN'T MOVE - GYRO PROOF (ONCE AGAIN) - MIRROR - Duration: 10:14.
odiupicku         
         - 1 year ago
         - 52,820 views
ORIGINAL VIDEO YOU CAN SEE HERE : https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=IxYE-rce_3Y. 
      -  25:30          
         - Play next
         - Play now
          
Flat Earth and the Gyroscope Myth - Duration: 25:30.
Rob Durham         
         - 2 years ago
         - 209,428 views
Do gyroscopes really appear to drift over time due to the spin of the earth? Have you tested it for yourself? US Navy training video  
      -  15:16          
         - Play next
         - Play now
          
Airplanes PROVE Flat Earth!! Gyroscopes Remain LEVEL Entire Flight!! | FLAT EARTH PROOF 8 pt3 - Duration: 15:16.
Feed Your Mind         
         - 1 year ago
         - 28,881 views
Flat Earth PROOFS [by Feed Your Mind] - https://www.youtube.com/ playlist?list=PLt36ZcQGl6srt_- aQl...  
      -  3:16 



      From: "arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Thursday, 28 December 2017, 19:28
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
  
    concave-geonal orbit is the correct world as descriptor to what you see... and no its not due to earth being flat but due to how much assholes reside on its surface ...

get a gyroscope experiment with it , i think you will get the correct answers ..

(H)   

      
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Ole,
I was tired and just googled the gyro videos and I didn't watch any of them.
You are right I should have done my own research.
Happy New Year!
George

      From: "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Saturday, 30 December 2017, 11:30
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
   
    Hi George,

The first video: The gyroscope doesn't align with the earth as claimed. The gyroscope holds the position it's started in which makes it point in whatever direction in space it had when started regardless of the movement of the earth. To be used for pointing north it must be aligned to the rotational axis of the earth to keep that direction. Making some small friction between the flywheel of the gyroscope and the rotating earth will make it eventually align with the rotational axis of the earth. This self-aligning version of the gyroscope is a gyrocompass. It's allowed to study those things yourself which is easy by using the internet and a search engine or reading some books on physics.

Gyroscope: https://wiki2.org/en/Gyroscope
Gyrocompass: https://wiki2.org/en/Gyrocompass

As I expect the rest of the videos as being of the same standard I find it a totally waste of time watching them. Please do your own research. Do some study. Use the scientific method. I don't know how to avoid fake science without doing some research. It's very time consuming though. I don't know either why people make those videos of fake science. One reason could be YouTube paying for making videos no matter being true or false. At least that was the reason for the more than one hundred news channels in a small area of Croatia (I think it was) making fake news during the American election according to a Danish journalist that visited some of the people behind those channels. They were just students making money by inventing their own news stories. Some of them made enough money for a living by inventing news stories. It certainly didn't make the stories true.

Regards
Ole

---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :

Well here are some results of Gyroscope experiments to prove the flat earth
George
   
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      -  11:27          
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         - Play now
          
Why Gyroscopes Proves Flat Earth - Case Closed - Duration: 11:27.
Globe Skeptic         
         - 2 years ago
         - 178,192 views
Here is a great expose of why gyroscope proves the Flat Earth. Interesting link of a discussion between a submarine chief officer and  
      -  14:20          
         - Play next
         - Play now
          
[Ultimate Flat Earth Proof] Stationary Flat Earth – The Gyroscope Doesn't Lie - Duration: 14:20.
GLOBEBUSTERS         
         - 10 months ago
         - 14,322 views
Well here it is - the final nail in the globe earth coffin. Now we know our gyroscopes ARE sensitive enough to detect the alleged  
      -  10:14          
         - Play next
         - Play now
          
FLAT EARTH - THE EARTH DOESN'T MOVE - GYRO PROOF (ONCE AGAIN) - MIRROR - Duration: 10:14.
odiupicku         
         - 1 year ago
         - 52,820 views
ORIGINAL VIDEO YOU CAN SEE HERE : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxYE-rce_3Y. 
      -  25:30          
         - Play next
         - Play now
          
Flat Earth and the Gyroscope Myth - Duration: 25:30.
Rob Durham         
         - 2 years ago
         - 209,428 views
Do gyroscopes really appear to drift over time due to the spin of the earth? Have you tested it for yourself? US Navy training video  
      -  15:16          
         - Play next
         - Play now
          
Airplanes PROVE Flat Earth!! Gyroscopes Remain LEVEL Entire Flight!! | FLAT EARTH PROOF 8 pt3 - Duration: 15:16.
Feed Your Mind         
         - 1 year ago
         - 28,881 views
Flat Earth PROOFS [by Feed Your Mind] - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLt36ZcQGl6srt_-aQl...  
      -  3:16 



      From: "arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Thursday, 28 December 2017, 19:28
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
  
    concave-geonal orbit is the correct world as descriptor to what you see... and no its not due to earth being flat but due to how much assholes reside on its surface ...

get a gyroscope experiment with it , i think you will get the correct answers ..

(H)   

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Did I tell you one on those flat earth shadow people were following me
around the other day till noon ! I almost called 911 but at noon it left .I
guest I scared it off . that was a  close one .it may of had to report back
in to the master cylinder ..aka the Pope ! On me ?
On Dec 30, 2017 3:23 PM, "george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Ole,
>
> I was tired and just googled the gyro videos and I didn't watch any of
> them.
>
> You are right I should have done my own research.
>
> Happy New Year!
> George
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Saturday, 30 December 2017, 11:30
> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
>
>
> Hi George,
>
> The first video: The gyroscope doesn't align with the earth as claimed.
> The gyroscope holds the position it's started in which makes it point in
> whatever direction in space it had when started regardless of the movement
> of the earth. To be used for pointing north it must be aligned to the
> rotational axis of the earth to keep that direction. Making some small
> friction between the flywheel of the gyroscope and the rotating earth will
> make it eventually align with the rotational axis of the earth. This
> self-aligning version of the gyroscope is a gyrocompass. It's allowed to
> study those things yourself which is easy by using the internet and a
> search engine or reading some books on physics.
>
> Gyroscope: https://wiki2.org/en/Gyroscope
> Gyrocompass: https://wiki2.org/en/Gyrocompass
>
> As I expect the rest of the videos as being of the same standard I find it
> a totally waste of time watching them. Please do your own research. Do some
> study. Use the scientific method. I don't know how to avoid fake science
> without doing some research. It's very time consuming though. I don't know
> either why people make those videos of fake science. One reason could be
> YouTube paying for making videos no matter being true or false. At least
> that was the reason for the more than one hundred news channels in a small
> area of Croatia (I think it was) making fake news during the American
> election according to a Danish journalist that visited some of the people
> behind those channels. They were just students making money by inventing
> their own news stories. Some of them made enough money for a living by
> inventing news stories. It certainly didn't make the stories true.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
> ---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :
>
> Well here are some results of Gyroscope experiments to prove the flat earth
>
> George
>
>    1.
>       1. [image: alt] 11:27
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8U2hyoK8IU>
>          - Play next
>          - Play now
>       Why Gyroscopes Proves Flat Earth - Case Closed
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8U2hyoK8IU> - Duration: 11:27.
>       Globe Skeptic
>       <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGMHcFZjIFfvK3doe_nt5vA>
>       - 2 years ago
>          - 178,192 views
>       Here is a great expose of why *gyroscope proves* the *Flat Earth*.
>       Interesting link of a discussion between a submarine chief officer and
>       2. [image: alt] 14:20
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DVhoD-5Keg>
>          - Play next
>          - Play now
>       [Ultimate Flat Earth Proof] Stationary Flat Earth – The Gyroscope
>       Doesn't Lie <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DVhoD-5Keg> -
>       Duration: 14:20.
>       GLOBEBUSTERS
>       <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXIovaBdnA4UHdd-TZ-MqRg>
>       - 10 months ago
>          - 14,322 views
>       Well here it is - the final nail in the globe *earth* coffin. Now
>       we know our *gyroscopes* ARE sensitive enough to detect the alleged
>       3. [image: alt] 10:14
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWlGRaAAV_Y>
>          - Play next
>          - Play now
>       FLAT EARTH - THE EARTH DOESN'T MOVE - GYRO PROOF (ONCE AGAIN) -
>       MIRROR <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWlGRaAAV_Y> - Duration:
>       10:14.
>       odiupicku <https://www.youtube.com/user/odiupicku>
>       - 1 year ago
>          - 52,820 views
>       ORIGINAL VIDEO YOU CAN SEE HERE : https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>       v=IxYE-rce_3Y.
>       4. [image: alt] 25:30
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deoLBQTtXJw>
>          - Play next
>          - Play now
>       Flat Earth and the Gyroscope Myth
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deoLBQTtXJw> - Duration: 25:30.
>       Rob Durham <https://www.youtube.com/user/Neomagik99>
>       - 2 years ago
>          - 209,428 views
>       Do *gyroscopes* really appear to drift over time due to the spin of
>       the *earth*? Have you tested it for yourself? US Navy training
>       video
>       5. [image: alt] 15:16
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLrxBDBD9oI>
>          - Play next
>          - Play now
>       Airplanes PROVE Flat Earth!! Gyroscopes Remain LEVEL Entire
>       Flight!! | FLAT EARTH PROOF 8 pt3
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLrxBDBD9oI> - Duration: 15:16.
>       Feed Your Mind
>       <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB1Xo-21g5dzPqH_pg0lLkQ>
>       - 1 year ago
>          - 28,881 views
>       *Flat Earth* PROOFS [by Feed Your Mind] - https://www.youtube.com/
>       playlist?list=PLt36ZcQGl6srt_-aQl...
>       <https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLt36ZcQGl6srt_-aQlEAaHQeizaxwnh3v>
>       6. [image: alt] 3:16
>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0L7NxP7o_0>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 28 December 2017, 19:28
> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
>
>
> concave-geonal orbit is the correct world as descriptor to what you see...
> and no its not due to earth being flat but due to how much assholes reside
> on its surface ...
>
> get a gyroscope experiment with it , i think you will get the correct
> answers ..
>
> (H)
>
>
>
>
> 
>

That is nothing ! worry if you see a T rex coming out of a wall when running an RV at 250KW  ( you know you will be eaten ) and end in a T rex Jurr ass is sick "turd park" ... some million years in the past ...

I got some interesting reports from china , yes they did the same shit again ! 

Opening time Space portals is not a game , RV acts as a Montauk AMPLITRON  in ELF WAVES at extreme potentials ...

Well need to go , I am preping up ... as who knows whos missile will Blow up first !
 





(H)

Well Hector my friend, we are either an accident or a purposeful design and for as many people as there are, so will there be opinions, but only God knows anything for sure. 

Q.E.D.  2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: I love the chapter and verse number 2:11, Police Blue Code for "Robbery"

 https://youtu.be/F8nnsiPUn-c https://youtu.be/F8nnsiPUn-c

I believe in flat earthers .the creepy buggers follow me around every were
I go ! I stomp at them threaten them.. run from them ..but no good they
stick like glue .dam them ! I think they are listening in on my
conversations and reporting back to the master cylinder .you know the
little guy who's going to blow up the earth because it's blocking his view
of Venus. Look down now and then see if you have a tail ....there dark and
flat and right on your heals !! Try stomping them it doesn't work !! Weres
my meds ?
On Jan 5, 2018 1:45 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Well Hector my friend, we are either an accident or a purposeful design
> and for as many people as there are, so will there be opinions, but only
> God knows anything for sure.
>
> Q.E.D.  2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them
> strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: I love the chapter and
> verse number 2:11, Police Blue Code for "Robbery"
>
>  https://youtu.be/F8nnsiPUn-c
> 
>

Like I said... Only God knows anything for sure! 3-6-9?

https://youtu.be/O69CEb0R5SI https://youtu.be/O69CEb0R5SI

Well then there's this one... as I have said... everyone has one! 3-6-9, so where does "0" come in?

https://youtu.be/WCnhDVMbcm0 https://youtu.be/WCnhDVMbcm0

Then there's a tag along to even that...... https://youtu.be/A5ixUjUyYmw https://youtu.be/A5ixUjUyYmw