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Hello Warren, I think you have already achieved a lot. I just hope the 12V Dc engine has delivered usable mechanical power. The batteries are connected via the Rene charger connected to the stepdown transformer is great. But your batteries are fine, you could load them directly via a Fwbr to the transformer with the same effect. Could you make a drawing of your experiment again? Greetings Sven


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Sven

 If you just happened to have made a Rene charger, it seems to do a good job charging lead acid batteries when run off the capacitor circuit of an RV by way of a step down transformer, so that it runs the primary winding on 20 volts AC.
I found no measurable draw on the little 5 amp battery running the 125 watt inverter which powered the RV whether the Rene was connected, or not.
For that experiment, I was also driving a 12 volt electric outboard motor, being used as a test load.
The load at the 5 amp battery measured 1.5 amps (@ 12 volts) and the load at the brushes of the outboard motor measured 2.5 amp ( @ 12 volts dc)
The Rene output could not be measured with amps going in, yet one could see the voltage rapidly rising on a multimeter, and the batteries so charged able to run the RV.
If you have a working RV, and some multitap transformers, a load motor, a few good batteries, rectifiers, smallish inverter, and lot, and lots, of switches, you can replicate the experiment, as it seems it works all the time, so far that I have fired it up.
I have to start on grid AC, then switch over to the battery/inverter power to the running Rotoverter. Tune the Rotoverter roughly. Open the switch shunted across the capacitor circuit in series transformer primaries, now including it into the capacitor circuit. Retune your capacitor box. Close the secondary winding switch to the load which is an electric DC motor, that draws more than input, at least. Tune the capacitor box.
Now close the Rene charger input circuit while watching the battery amp meter.
Other than the rising battery voltage, there is nothing to report except the specific gravity of the ekectrolyte also improves, increasing the specific gravity reading, as it charges.
Cheers Warren
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Hello Ole, Douglas,

I think soon that the repercussions of diode plug discharges are filtered so that it does not reflect or the energy remains completely reactive.

In my whole experiments, there was always a minimum reflection but then remained constant no matter what I have connected as a load on the diode plug. It is discharged when unloading a strong DC pulse that certainly can not be perfectly inserted back into the resonance wave.

I actually wanted to charge the batteries that I got via the transverter directly with VAR via an FWBR. The batteries are too bad for me to try this way. Hector has warned us that the batteries may not be good if you charge them reactive and at the same time get active power from them for the inverter.

That's why I prefer to further perfect or learn the diode plug.

I hope you can see the drawing of Hector I uploaded it via email unfortunately I can not upload anything at evgray apparently yahoo is overloaded?!?!

What I find particularly interesting are the reactors or inductors in each diode plug. With this I would have to delay the recharging of the capacitor so that I can completely discharge the capacitor so that the thyristor switches off safely. The inductor stores the energy and then releases it when the capacitor is fully charged. The capacitor acts like a snubber which then stores the energy.

Thoughts and knowledge are very welcome.

Best regards

Sven

SvenI'll tryto draw it for you and send it via cell phoneCheers Warren

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Hello Warren, I think you have already achieved a lot. I just hope the 12V Dc engine has delivered usable mechanical power. The batteries are connected via the Rene charger connected to the stepdown transformer is great. But your batteries are fine, you could load them directly via a Fwbr to the transformer with the same effect. Could you make a drawing of your experiment again? Greetings Sven

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Sven
 If you just happened to have made a Rene charger, it seems to do a good job charging lead acid batteries when run off the capacitor circuit of an RV by way of a step down transformer, so that it runs the primary winding on 20 volts AC.I found no measurable draw on the little 5 amp battery running the 125 watt inverter which powered the RV whether the Rene was connected, or not.For that experiment, I was also driving a 12 volt electric outboard motor, being used as a test load.The load at the 5 amp battery measured 1.5 amps (@ 12 volts) and the load at the brushes of the outboard motor measured 2.5 amp ( @ 12 volts dc)The Rene output could not be measured with amps going in, yet one could see the voltage rapidly rising on a multimeter, and the batteries so charged able to run the RV.If you have a working RV, and some multitap transformers, a load motor, a few good batteries, rectifiers, smallish inverter, and lot, and lots, of switches, you can replicate the experiment, as it seems it works all the time, so far that I have fired it up.I have to start on grid AC, then switch over to the battery/inverter power to the running Rotoverter. Tune the Rotoverter roughly. Open the switch shunted across the capacitor circuit in series transformer primaries, now including it into the capacitor circuit. Retune your capacitor box. Close the secondary winding switch to the load which is an electric DC motor, that draws more than input, at least. Tune the capacitor box.Now close the Rene charger input circuit while watching the battery amp meter.Other than the rising battery voltage, there is nothing to report except the specific gravity of the ekectrolyte also improves, increasing the specific gravity reading, as it charges.Cheers Warren
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Hello Ole, Douglas,

I think soon that the repercussions of diode plug discharges are filtered so that it does not reflect or the energy remains completely reactive.

In my whole experiments, there was always a minimum reflection but then remained constant no matter what I have connected as a load on the diode plug. It is discharged when unloading a strong DC pulse that certainly can not be perfectly inserted back into the resonance wave.

I actually wanted to charge the batteries that I got via the transverter directly with VAR via an FWBR. The batteries are too bad for me to try this way. Hector has warned us that the batteries may not be good if you charge them reactive and at the same time get active power from them for the inverter.

That's why I prefer to further perfect or learn the diode plug.

I hope you can see the drawing of Hector I uploaded it via email unfortunately I can not upload anything at evgray apparently yahoo is overloaded?!?!

What I find particularly interesting are the reactors or inductors in each diode plug. With this I would have to delay the recharging of the capacitor so that I can completely discharge the capacitor so that the thyristor switches off safely. The inductor stores the energy and then releases it when the capacitor is fully charged. The capacitor acts like a snubber which then stores the energy.

Thoughts and knowledge are very welcome.

Best regards

Sven
    


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Hi Sven
 Here is a drawing of the rotovertor with series transformer on run cap phase that Warren did...
 where the load is, is where he put the DC boat motor as load....or in same place, you can put a rene charger too alongside the DC boat motor or by itself.
 When load is applied, draw to rotovertor motor goes down very signifigantly.....you need to play around with cap sizes and transformers and what the load is...
 https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/home/seris-transformer-rotovertor-run-cap-phase-power-extraction https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/home/seris-transformer-rotovertor-run-cap-phase-power-extraction

Hello Warren,

that would be very nice of you, I would be very happy.

regards

Sven

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Hi Sven
 I think Warren said he had a multi-tapped transformer in series....some of the winds gave him 13V or so, he ran that 12VDC DC boat motor with these....(and got X 1.618 overunity doing that) and in addition, he used some other winds of that multi-tapped transformer which gave him 20V, and 20V is a very good voltage to run the rene charger on, so he connected that too, and this extra load of the rene charger did not affect draw to the motor at all, so why not charge a battery too, as you already have overunity power output with the DC boat motor consuming 2.5A and 12V which was more than the input of power to the rotovertor motor.
 At least this is how I understand what he did with rene charger......sorry about last description in post before since if he had 13V to boat motor, you could not run rene charger with that, you need 20V.....so I do not think he just paralleled the rene charger to the boat motor, rather he used the multi-tapped windings of his transformer for different voltages for the different loads.
 ciaoKone

Hi Douglas,

I posted the circuit from Warren. There is not only the serial transformer to the serial transformer Secondary side, a 2 transformer is connected on one side connected via a capacitor.
Does he shift the phases back with it?!?
That would be too easy.
Why did he do that?
For another voltage he would have connected the 2 transformer directly or used directly as a series transformer. Every transformer I follow contains losses. Except I think of the engines where the one acts on the other as an amplifier.

I did some tests. 2 capacitors placed in series to a load, that is, both lines are interrupted by a capacitor or connected by the electric field. With resistive load (incandescent lamp 116W) the voltage breaks down the larger capacitors I install the more energy is actually transferred quite simply. With inductive load, the whole thing is already interesting, voltage and current increase the transformer is in resonance that works with a capacitor in series as well as with 2 capacitors.

Of course, I have now used a Variac with upstream isolation transformer as a voltage source. I wonder how the capacitors act when transmitting resonant power, if then again sets an additional voltage increase.

regards

Sven

DougYes,  that is correct, except I think my math got 1.614 ratio , not 1.618 so there might have been some inefficiency in my rig, somewhere.Cheers Warren
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Hi Sven

I think Warren said he had a multi-tapped transformer in series....some of the winds gave him 13V or so, he ran that 12VDC DC boat motor with these....(and got X 1.618 overunity doing that) and in addition, he used some other winds of that multi-tapped transformer which gave him 20V, and 20V is a very good voltage to run the rene charger on, so he connected that too, and this extra load of the rene charger did not affect draw to the motor at all, so why not charge a battery too, as you already have overunity power output with the DC boat motor consuming 2.5A and 12V which was more than the input of power to the rotovertor motor.

At least this is how I understand what he did with rene charger......sorry about last description in post before since if he had 13V to boat motor, you could not run rene charger with that, you need 20V.....so I do not think he just paralleled the rene charger to the boat motor, rather he used the multi-tapped windings of his transformer for different voltages for the different loads.

ciaoKone

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