Re: [EVGRAY] Re: question: Flywheel system ...?

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2019-07-18T13:18:56+00:00
Norman Wootan <[email protected]>

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When will you guys understand that a flywheel stores energy similar to a capacitor, except you have dynamic losses, friction etc. so you never get back all the energy input!!

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  On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 1:57, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Thanks Warren, my system is all iron and it is quite balanced, as soon 
as I can I will take photos. I made the attempt with the direct 
transmission belts to avoid the wear and tear that would occur with 
the Chas Campbelltra system, the thrust ramp and the small flywheels. 
I also tried to lighten the wheel, with half the weight, but the same 
result, as the load increases, the alternator brakes it. Now I modify 
as Chas says, but I wanted to ask you something: Since it is a large 
flywheel of 2 meters in diameter and weighing over 800 pounds, it has 
to run an 11kwa three-phase alternator (of which the actual yield is 
8kwa) and using as a button system 3 engines of 0.75kw (1HP) with 
flywheels of about 100 pounds positioned around the big wheel every 
120 degrees as suggested by Chas, I wondered how many must be the push 
ramps on the big wheel? ... é enough 1 that receives 3 thrusts per 
rotation?

"Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" 
<[email protected]> ha scritto:

> InfoI have a friend in Nova ScotiaUsing such a system His flywheel 
> is much smaller, but not only self runs, but speeds up.His flywheel 
> is from an old make and break engine and is not weighted correctly 
> having a counter weight cast 18into it.It shakes the 8"×8" timber 
> stand all around the room, but drives the Canadian tire generator 
> head, and the ac motor driving it.
> He has been helping me with my flywheel rig which did just about 
> what yours did.He turns his at 3000 rpm which for an old make and 
> break flywheel, is scary. It shakes and rattles all across the 
> floor, and he kept it going for 30 minutes.Now he is making his next 
> flywheel, and I am helping as I can.My friend Mike, in Toronto, 
> happens to be driving next week to Nova Scotia, to go to his cottage 
> there.I got them together, and now Mike is going to drop by and help 
> him machine the new flywheel  as he is also a machinist, as well as 
> the heat pump guru.(Both are keen to get their electric vehicles 
> self running.)
> I have a number of irons in the fire, and am too busy to get away, 
> or I would go there too, and help out.It is 1200 miles from 
> here.Don't give up on your wheel, there's more to it than you might 
> guess, and it seems simple enough to do.I will update you as I get 
> more photos, and details.He has been totally forth coming, with any 
> information, I have asked for, and invited Mike to stay over, on his 
> trip. So cheer up, and keep at it.WarrenSent from Yahoo Mail on 
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>
> On Wed., 17 Jul. 2019 at 3:39 p.m., [email protected] 
> [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:  
>
> Hi everyone, I'm working on a flywheel system to produce electricity.
> To give information to anyone interested in such a system, I state
> that a large flywheel, 2 meters in diameter (about 7 feet) and
> weighing 450 pounds, launched at a speed of 120 revolutions per
> minute, driven with a system of pulleys and belts by a 2.5HP motor, an
> alternator provided only 1200watts, if I increased the load
> (1400watts) the wheel slowed down until it had no more speed to
> produce current, therefore, the engine that absorbed 1.85kw , consumed
> more current than the one produced (1.2kw). In conclusion the system
> with belts and pulleys connected to large flywheels, do not produce
> excess current, but much less, so all the videos that are seen on
> youtube filmed in India on the genre, are all scams. Now I'm going to
> change the system to make it work by the way, like Chas says. I'll
> keep you up-to-date.
>
> "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> ha scritto:
>
>> This devices must be positioned with the shaft north to south and
>> spin in the equator counter clock wise else they fuck earth rotation
>> . they are stealing power from earth rotation by gyroscopic
>> disruption fucking earth rotation badly , Coriolis force can be
>> used the way i describe with no harm
>>
>> else
>>
>> Live and let die !
>>
>>
>> ---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :
>>
>> Info I have a friend in New Brunswick who has been able to get 1500
>> watts out from his flywheel rig.
>> He has had terrible problems, as his flywheel is not balanced so
>> well, and although being in a heavy timber frame, dances across the
>> floor of his shop, during long term running sessions.
>> We are working on these mechanical details together, and I have
>> friends in nearby Nova Scotia on the lookout for better flywheels.
>> Here, close at hand, there seem to be quite a few antique farm
>> machines, such as horse drawn hay elevators, and hay rakes, that
>> have massive cast iron wheels, with wrought iron spokes and trims.
>> The hay elevator wheels weigh several hundred pounds.
>> I have been able to balance nearly anything, using my competition
>> skateboard board bearings I got at a yard sale, in Toronto.
>> They are just good quality ball bearings, with a 5/16" shaft.
>> There is no problem supporting several hundred lbs on each one, and
>> spinning it freely. I lay solid solder inside the rim to balance the
>> wheel stuck in place with masking tape until it never stops in the
>> same place, when it coasts to a stop.
>> With big flywheels you need not go fast. There is plenty of
>> inertia, even barely turning.
>> I have a rig that I made up that is based on a 90 lb marine diesel
>> flywheel. My main mistake is that I have been trying to turn it way
>> too fast.
>> Hanley is also turning his too fast, as it is lighter, but he is
>> succeeding to get it to self run, in spite of all.
>> He too, is not sure why it works.
>> He even speculated that maybe the unbalance may contribute, but
>> neither one of us know for sure.
>> I will get back to mine, as I deal with these buildings here,
>> getting my shops organized.
>> So to answer your question, the flywheel device does work,
>> according to someone, who I believe, is a straight forward, and
>> honest, in his reports.
>> The multitude of Wheels powering generators seems like a YouTube
>> industry, there is such a variety of them. Some are very ambitious,
>> expensive units.
>> India loses its trustworthiness, with all the telemarketing calls,
>> and scams. You would almost have to visit, and see for yourself,
>> what is real.
>> My bet is with people I know, getting the straight story, or not.
>> Cheers Warren
>>
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>> On Thu., 4 Jul. 2019 at 2:59 a.m., info@... [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi to all the members of this site, I'd like to know if any of you
>> managed to produce excess electricity with the flywheel system?
>>
>> "konehead@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> ha scritto:
>>
>> > Hi Luca
>> > I am glad we could help..let us know how project goes.
>> > Ciao Kone
>
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