Re: [EVGRAY] help!

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InfoThe rotor seems to be subject to eddy currents, perhaps?Somehow this RV has been turned into an induction heater?Hector needs to be consulted on this problem, to give some input as to why this motor is curiously out of sync, somehow.Assuming it is newish, and in normal running shape, there seems to be a lack of harmony between the windings and the core rotor, yet as you say, it does seem to run at expected speed. Strange, indeed!Cheers Warren
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  On Sat., 29 Jun. 2019 at 3:29 a.m., [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Thanks for the help, you are very kind, even the others with their 
advice. The rotoverter heats up turning without load, with the free 
shaft it becomes very hot after a few minutes, even bringing the 
condensers to a minimum, type 1.5 microfarad, it runs well, the engine 
is new and absorbs little, about 0.2A, not should it stay cold ...? 
only the rotor is warmed up, the stator with the windings remains 
cold, but I fear that the heat of the rotor is transmitted to the 
locator damaging it. I noticed that the motor has more force with the 
current at 220 V without variac (at 172V) ... it will be because it is 
an engine that can work even at 60hertz, 690V ....? (I use it at 
50hertz of the network, without inverter).

"[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> ha scritto:

> Hi Italian dude working on rotovertor
> Ok spinning a big two meterr flywheel with a rotovertor AC motor is 
> going to be project!
> A 5hp size 3ph motor is only going to be like a 1bp motor in shaft 
> power, when you do the rotovertor conversion.
> Getting that flywheel spinning from stop will be near impossible, 
> you will need some other motor working as a starter motor for a 
> few.minutes, then bring in the rotovertor motor once flywheel going 
> speed you want.
> Rotovertor since latched to sinewave, has only a 7% allowance in rpm 
> drop under load and it will drop out of latch with sinewave, and 
> stall. So you going to need very specific ratios of belts and 
> pulleys to make it so it keeps that flywheel spinning especially 
> when your generator is loaded..
> Are you getting that heat in rotor when you do spin the flywhelel?? 
> Are you that far yet? If so, then the heat is probably the battle 
> of rotor slipping out of sinewave. But the flywheel makes it revolve 
> when it doesn't want to.....during this time the motor is 
> alternator, maybe you can tap out power during this time.
> I will think your project is going to need many run cap sizes,, a 
> variable frequency drive so you are not limited to the sinewave 
> frequency in what speed motor goes, and also that variac, and 
> eventually a bigger motor and one of permanent magnet rotor type too 
> so it is synchronous type motor not non synchronous so will have 
> more power, wiil not slip so easily out of such and not always be 
> stalling and requiring a restart...
> Kone


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